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"Nope. I know all I need to know about him "What did he do? | |||
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"He tried to defeat the matrix and it's minions." Not sure what he did .. I'm sorry I asked .. I'm a nosy shit  | |||
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What did he do? "I know feckall about him meself. I'm not interested in knowing anymore about him either. He got arrested for human trafficking & God knows what else, as far as I know. | |||
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"He tried to defeat the matrix and it's minions. Not sure what he did .. I'm sorry I asked .. I'm a nosy shit "I'm actually being semi-serious, it's the kinda crap he comes out with. You would be better off googling; it's quite a list of things he's done. | |||
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"He tried to defeat the matrix and it's minions. Not sure what he did .. I'm sorry I asked .. I'm a nosy shit
I'm actually being semi-serious, it's the kinda crap he comes out with. You would be better off googling; it's quite a list of things he's done."I'm to tired to Google .. let him be | |||
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What did he do?
I know feckall about him meself.
I'm not interested in knowing anymore about him either.
He got arrested for human trafficking & God knows what else, as far as I know."I didn't know that sorry .. the dirty shit hope he gets what he deserves | |||
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"He is a cunt. I hope this helps. " Immensely  | |||
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I know feckall about him meself.
I'm not interested in knowing anymore about him either.
He got arrested for human trafficking & God knows what else, as far as I know.
I didn't know that sorry .. the dirty shit hope he gets what he deserves "What are you sorry for?  | |||
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"He basically lures women into sexwork by pretending they have a relationship with them and then takes the lion's share of the cash. Then repeats with more women. He moved to Romania because he thought he could get away with it there. He's a scumbag." Thats what @wonderingporpuse said | |||
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"Anyone else watching this on BBC Three right now. " Nah I'd rather not watch a show about a human trafficker with a god complex who looks down his nose at people working decent jobs while mouthing off about bugattis etc. Didn't really do him much good though considering the charges he's facing | |||
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"As much of a scum bag as he is I think it's important for parents of teenage boys to be aware of him and the crap he spouts about how to treat women. We have a 17yr old son who has a friend who thought AT was the business, all the lads in the group took the time to educate him on how ATs views were so wrong. It took them a while but he eventually came round. I think parents and schools should be aware of him and others like him. T x" Totally agree with this 100% | |||
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"Anyone else watching this on BBC Three right now. Nah I'd rather not watch a show about a human trafficker with a god complex who looks down his nose at people working decent jobs while mouthing off about bugattis etc. Didn't really do him much good though considering the charges he's facing " Now I know the douch ye are talking about
He'd pass me off big time, mainly because I genuinely believed their a dying breed like trump or Cosby... then this fool comes along  | |||
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"As much of a scum bag as he is I think it's important for parents of teenage boys to be aware of him and the crap he spouts about how to treat women. We have a 17yr old son who has a friend who thought AT was the business, all the lads in the group took the time to educate him on how ATs views were so wrong. It took them a while but he eventually came round. I think parents and schools should be aware of him and others like him. T x" Agreed , he's a scrote. But interesting you're one of the few in the replies who's actually replied to the question. | |||
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"Anyone else watching this on BBC Three right now. Nah I'd rather not watch a show about a human trafficker with a god complex who looks down his nose at people working decent jobs while mouthing off about bugattis etc. Didn't really do him much good though considering the charges he's facing Now I know the douch ye are talking about
He'd pass me off big time, mainly because I genuinely believed their a dying breed like trump or Cosby... then this fool comes along "It’s like everything on social media or life just like dug dealing one fool replaces another ah well it will go on for ever and a day I let the R out on purpose | |||
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"Eurgh no, give it time though as he's got plenty of fans here, no doubt they'll be on to say how great he is " What did I do? | |||
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Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
"Haha if I’m on top of a burning building and anyone male/female comes and rescues me I’d question their superiors for sending them in In the first place but that’s just my opinion The Americans learned that after 9/11 | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
"I disagree, I think he's a fuckwit who's absorbed with his own hype ...all the while not realising he's being manipulated by a far more devious cunt ..if you watched it you'd see that | |||
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"As much of a scum bag as he is I think it's important for parents of teenage boys to be aware of him and the crap he spouts about how to treat women. We have a 17yr old son who has a friend who thought AT was the business, all the lads in the group took the time to educate him on how ATs views were so wrong. It took them a while but he eventually came round. I think parents and schools should be aware of him and others like him. T x" 100%, he is brain rot for teenagers (and grown adult men who follow him) people see his image with his cars and the lifestyle he lives and think it's amazing and then he pushes his awful views which promote misogyny among other things to a primarly young and impressionable audience. and then there's the whole getting arrested for trafficking women | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
"If I was a woman firefighter and came across this idiot in a burning building I'd be happy to leave him there! He's rotten to the core for young impressionable teenagers. Just my opinion! Cherry | |||
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"Man's a legend" Aye, course he is
Looking forward to your next post whinging that women on here won't meet you, you're well overdue! | |||
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"As a father to 4 boys I'm terrified that one day one of them could come home spouting his rhetoric. After everything we have done to try and raise decent boys who will grow up to know the importance of things like consent, gender, humility, respect, kindness etc. He is telling them to give in to all the worst things that having testosterone in your body gives you. I can see how the message is attractive and he seemingly has everything. I hope in time everything will be exposed and a lesson will be learned about where his kind of thinking can lead when you see women as meat to be used to buy stuff that reinforces your own sense of importance and make up for your grudges and inadequacies. " His message is attractive and thats why he's so good at manipulation. Most of the young men i know, my nephews mainly, cant stand him. They see right through it but it doesn't get away from the idea that a lot of the things he is saying resonates with a lot of them. | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
"Can I just say, that was my Peter writing on this forum post and not me at all. Andrew Tate, in my opinion as a woman, a misogynistic, violent ego maniac. His posts online about what he would do to women is by all accounts disgusting. “It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up bitch,” he says in one video, acting out how he’d attack a woman if she accused him of cheating. His rise to fame is alarming considering the content he posts and with over 11 billion views its frightening to think what young men are using for their self help advice. He has claimed mental health 'isn't real', thinks r**e victims must “bear responsibility” for their attacks and predominately dates women aged 18–19 because he can “make an imprint” on them and he wonders why is he where is he. This toxic rat should have no place on any social media outlet. And while he remains where he is his content soars because of this toxic brainwashing of his followers. This is frightening! So again, just to be clear, the previous posts on this subject were not from Gemma 
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
Can I just say, that was my Peter writing on this forum post and not me at all.
Andrew Tate, in my opinion as a woman, a misogynistic, violent ego maniac. His posts online about what he would do to women is by all accounts disgusting.
“It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up bitch,” he says in one video, acting out how he’d attack a woman if she accused him of cheating.
His rise to fame is alarming considering the content he posts and with over 11 billion views its frightening to think what young men are using for their self help advice.
He has claimed mental health 'isn't real', thinks r**e victims must “bear responsibility” for their attacks and predominately dates women aged 18–19 because he can “make an imprint” on them and he wonders why is he where is he.
This toxic rat should have no place on any social media outlet. And while he remains where he is his content soars because of this toxic brainwashing of his followers. This is frightening!
So again, just to be clear, the previous posts on this subject were not from Gemma
All love and have a fabulous Friday"Tate is an attention seeking pig Gemma. It truly is a pity he gets so much views | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
Can I just say, that was my Peter writing on this forum post and not me at all.
Andrew Tate, in my opinion as a woman, a misogynistic, violent ego maniac. His posts online about what he would do to women is by all accounts disgusting.
“It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up bitch,” he says in one video, acting out how he’d attack a woman if she accused him of cheating.
His rise to fame is alarming considering the content he posts and with over 11 billion views its frightening to think what young men are using for their self help advice.
He has claimed mental health 'isn't real', thinks r**e victims must “bear responsibility” for their attacks and predominately dates women aged 18–19 because he can “make an imprint” on them and he wonders why is he where is he.
This toxic rat should have no place on any social media outlet. And while he remains where he is his content soars because of this toxic brainwashing of his followers. This is frightening!
So again, just to be clear, the previous posts on this subject were not from Gemma
All love and have a fabulous Friday"Well said Gemma. Have a lovely weekend x | |||
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"Trafficking, misogyny, abuse, manipulation, exploitation, disrespect... Of course he should be condemned and disregarded and treated appropriately for all of that. I'd happily see him disappear today for it - I have no regard or respect for him. He's clearly an arrogant prick. But discard that element of his character / behaviour, and some of his perspectives ON OTHER ISSUES are interesting and topical and thought-proviking. One example - a short reel came up on my (Mr) fb feed where he was highlighting flaws with the direction we're heading in terms of cashless. Again - not remotely a fan, and I completely discard and disregard him, and I hope that my own kids also see him as the arrogant asshole he is, and that they also discard him. But I also hope they can see and consider the elements or aspects in or of ANYONE that have some merit. " Hitler was kind to dogs. Should we consider those aspects of his psyche when assessing his character? | |||
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"Man's a legend Aye, course he is
Looking forward to your next post whinging that women on here won't meet you, you're well overdue!" | |||
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"Man's a legend Aye, course he is
Looking forward to your next post whinging that women on here won't meet you, you're well overdue!"Women not meeting me in here doesn't actually bother me anymore tbh. | |||
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"Trafficking, misogyny, abuse, manipulation, exploitation, disrespect... Of course he should be condemned and disregarded and treated appropriately for all of that. I'd happily see him disappear today for it - I have no regard or respect for him. He's clearly an arrogant prick. But discard that element of his character / behaviour, and some of his perspectives ON OTHER ISSUES are interesting and topical and thought-proviking. One example - a short reel came up on my (Mr) fb feed where he was highlighting flaws with the direction we're heading in terms of cashless. Again - not remotely a fan, and I completely discard and disregard him, and I hope that my own kids also see him as the arrogant asshole he is, and that they also discard him. But I also hope they can see and consider the elements or aspects in or of ANYONE that have some merit. __________ Hitler was kind to dogs. Should we consider those aspects of his psyche when assessing his character? " __________ Of course not. The last sentence of my last paragraph said "...I also hope they can see and consider the elements or aspects in or of ANYONE that have some merit." "Elements or aspects". Not character. In AT's case, his fundamental CHARACTER clearly seems to be bad, and without merit. But some of his COMMENTARY (not that on women) is interesting, not necessarily bad, and arguably has merit. Don't misunderstand me - I pay very little attention to him. He popped up on my fb reels once (talking about the world's move toward cashless), presumably because fb's algorithm recorded me clicking previously on other items on the subject of the current move toward cashless economy. While some of AT's commentary (not that on women) may be interesting, I still see him as the same foul arrogant arsehole others do, and hope he faces the appropriate consequences for his actions. | |||
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"He has a massive following because a lot of the things he says are accurate and resonate with a lot of people. He could be a very good manipulator and knows what to say to get people to follow him." Exactly, it's the typical traits of a sociopath with people skills. They often know very well how to manipulate people, whether it's young men facing struggles in this world of our own creation that often makes them feel like an unimportant cog in the great big machine, or the eager and naive young women that they can push into sex work and emotionally manipulate and abuse to focus solely on them. I've not paid him too much attention at all, but have seen him given outlet in various interviews, and it really looks like he carefully picks what he'll say in those interviews to best persuade the audience on those platforms. | |||
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"Trafficking, misogyny, abuse, manipulation, exploitation, disrespect... Of course he should be condemned and disregarded and treated appropriately for all of that. I'd happily see him disappear today for it - I have no regard or respect for him. He's clearly an arrogant prick. But discard that element of his character / behaviour, and some of his perspectives ON OTHER ISSUES are interesting and topical and thought-proviking. One example - a short reel came up on my (Mr) fb feed where he was highlighting flaws with the direction we're heading in terms of cashless. Again - not remotely a fan, and I completely discard and disregard him, and I hope that my own kids also see him as the arrogant asshole he is, and that they also discard him. But I also hope they can see and consider the elements or aspects in or of ANYONE that have some merit. __________ Hitler was kind to dogs. Should we consider those aspects of his psyche when assessing his character? __________ Of course not. The last sentence of my last paragraph said "...I also hope they can see and consider the elements or aspects in or of ANYONE that have some merit." "Elements or aspects". Not character. In AT's case, his fundamental CHARACTER clearly seems to be bad, and without merit. But some of his COMMENTARY (not that on women) is interesting, not necessarily bad, and arguably has merit. Don't misunderstand me - I pay very little attention to him. He popped up on my fb reels once (talking about the world's move toward cashless), presumably because fb's algorithm recorded me clicking previously on other items on the subject of the current move toward cashless economy. While some of AT's commentary (not that on women) may be interesting, I still see him as the same foul arrogant arsehole others do, and hope he faces the appropriate consequences for his actions. " I understand that too, and he does draw attention to some very important issues like the mental health crisis among young men (while often ignoring the issues affecting young women too to be fair), and the way this current hierarchal civilisation is going where so much power and influence is concentrated at the top, but these are not new and original to him. Unfortunately with how our media doesn't talk about these issues enough, people who see or experience them can find themselves focused on these charlatans who they become convinced are the truth tellers. He's a pseudointellectual that uses it to sell himself and profit off the system. A broken clock is right twice a day afterall. | |||
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He's a piece of shit manipulator of weaknesses in vulnerable people
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"Is this the matrix?" Well yes, civilization itself is nothing but our attempts as a species to organise at a scale we never ever adapted to, becoming immersed in our own little human bubble which unfortunately becomes vulnerable to hierarchical control by folk that best know how to play the system and the game, where populaces are kept distracted and divided based on political ideologies or imagined borders, while also being kept insecure due to financial insecurity due to a predatory economic system that prioritises elite interests most of all, ensuring the system underneath remains safe regardless of which party gets voted in. That said, his rantings about seeing beyond the matrix are laughable. | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
Can I just say, that was my Peter writing on this forum post and not me at all.
Andrew Tate, in my opinion as a woman, a misogynistic, violent ego maniac. His posts online about what he would do to women is by all accounts disgusting.
“It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up bitch,” he says in one video, acting out how he’d attack a woman if she accused him of cheating.
His rise to fame is alarming considering the content he posts and with over 11 billion views its frightening to think what young men are using for their self help advice.
He has claimed mental health 'isn't real', thinks r**e victims must “bear responsibility” for their attacks and predominately dates women aged 18–19 because he can “make an imprint” on them and he wonders why is he where is he.
This toxic rat should have no place on any social media outlet. And while he remains where he is his content soars because of this toxic brainwashing of his followers. This is frightening!
So again, just to be clear, the previous posts on this subject were not from Gemma
All love and have a fabulous Friday"Back in the kitchen with you now | |||
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"He's a fooking bellend , his brothers a bellend and anyone that looks up to him is a bellend. But....... some stuff he says is true, unfortunately like in the past , people feeling hard done by will always try to find someone to blame for their own problems,Adolf was one of these , this is Tate's danger , he finds excuses for his ridiculous beliefs and hides them between moments of clear and concise Common sense. Maybe we should try to get him to project manage the children's hospital?
He's a piece of shit manipulator of weaknesses in vulnerable people
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
"You think woman can't learn the muscle memory to lift objects heavier than them ? How many times do you think fire fighter actually carry people from burning buildings? How many full female squads of fire fighters do you think would exist? There were sl aves until we developed as a species!!!! Should we not ? Fuck me ,,, there also wasn't as much scope for dickheads to reach easily lead people until not ! | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
You think woman can't learn the muscle memory to lift objects heavier than them ?
How many times do you think fire fighter actually carry people from burning buildings?
How many full female squads of fire fighters do you think would exist?
There were sl aves until we developed as a species!!!! Should we not ?
Fuck me ,,, there also wasn't as much scope for dickheads to reach easily lead people until not ! "You're obviously one of those people who think transgender men should compete in womens sports. Thankfully that nonsense seems to be finally put in the bin where it belongs. | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
"That just sound like he stole a Bill Burr sketch! | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
That just sound like he stole a Bill Burr sketch! "Could well be. | |||
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"As much of a scum bag as he is I think it's important for parents of teenage boys to be aware of him and the crap he spouts about how to treat women. We have a 17yr old son who has a friend who thought AT was the business, all the lads in the group took the time to educate him on how ATs views were so wrong. It took them a while but he eventually came round. I think parents and schools should be aware of him and others like him. T x Totally agree with this 100% "This is scarily true,parents and schools need to be aware. Unfortunately | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
That just sound like he stole a Bill Burr sketch!
Could well be. "I knew I heard it somewhere before!! (from 03:00)
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
You think woman can't learn the muscle memory to lift objects heavier than them ?
How many times do you think fire fighter actually carry people from burning buildings?
How many full female squads of fire fighters do you think would exist?
There were sl aves until we developed as a species!!!! Should we not ?
Fuck me ,,, there also wasn't as much scope for dickheads to reach easily lead people until not !
You're obviously one of those people who think transgender men should compete in womens sports.
Thankfully that nonsense seems to be finally put in the bin where it belongs."I agree, but chess? I really don't get that. | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
You think woman can't learn the muscle memory to lift objects heavier than them ?
How many times do you think fire fighter actually carry people from burning buildings?
How many full female squads of fire fighters do you think would exist?
There were sl aves until we developed as a species!!!! Should we not ?
Fuck me ,,, there also wasn't as much scope for dickheads to reach easily lead people until not !
You're obviously one of those people who think transgender men should compete in womens sports.
Thankfully that nonsense seems to be finally put in the bin where it belongs.
I agree, but chess? I really don't get that."His father was a chess grandmaster. He’s making a lot of money by praying on vulnerable teenage lads … I can agree with some of the things he says but mostly it’s pure dog shit | |||
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"I meant, I don't get why trans can't compete as a woman in chess competitions. In fact I don't even know why chess is divided/classified at all. It's all very dated." Agreed , physical competitions I don’t care what anyone says trans women should not be allowed compete against actual women! And anyone that says different is just an asshole! But chess like that makes zero sense there’s no advantage there | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
Can I just say, that was my Peter writing on this forum post and not me at all.
Andrew Tate, in my opinion as a woman, a misogynistic, violent ego maniac. His posts online about what he would do to women is by all accounts disgusting.
“It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up bitch,” he says in one video, acting out how he’d attack a woman if she accused him of cheating.
His rise to fame is alarming considering the content he posts and with over 11 billion views its frightening to think what young men are using for their self help advice.
He has claimed mental health 'isn't real', thinks r**e victims must “bear responsibility” for their attacks and predominately dates women aged 18–19 because he can “make an imprint” on them and he wonders why is he where is he.
This toxic rat should have no place on any social media outlet. And while he remains where he is his content soars because of this toxic brainwashing of his followers. This is frightening!
So again, just to be clear, the previous posts on this subject were not from Gemma
All love and have a fabulous Friday
Back in the kitchen with you now "Where is that? Gemx | |||
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"I meant, I don't get why trans can't compete as a woman in chess competitions. In fact I don't even know why chess is divided/classified at all. It's all very dated." Chess is so dominated by men that women only competitions were introduced to encourage more women into the sport. But there are many open competitions where men and women play together. But banning transwomen from women only competitions doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. | |||
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"To dismiss the stuff he spouts as crap is a tad naive. Hes on the button with a lot of things and thats why he has such a massive following. For example.. his quote about there not being a single feminist on the titanic. Or being a man in a burning building and you are injured and look up and see a woman fire fighter. How the hell is she meant to carry you out of there?
Hes going to appeal to a lot of people with his anti woke BS.
You think woman can't learn the muscle memory to lift objects heavier than them ?
How many times do you think fire fighter actually carry people from burning buildings?
How many full female squads of fire fighters do you think would exist?
There were sl aves until we developed as a species!!!! Should we not ?
Fuck me ,,, there also wasn't as much scope for dickheads to reach easily lead people until not !
You're obviously one of those people who think transgender men should compete in womens sports.
Thankfully that nonsense seems to be finally put in the bin where it belongs."Your obviously one of those people who attack instead of answer a question.... thankfully thats an answer in itself | |||
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"I meant, I don't get why trans can't compete as a woman in chess competitions. In fact I don't even know why chess is divided/classified at all. It's all very dated. Agreed , physical competitions I don’t care what anyone says trans women should not be allowed compete against actual women! And anyone that says different is just an asshole! But chess like that makes zero sense there’s no advantage there " How do you know? You are certain of the biological differences. Are you certain of cognitive differences? Or similarities? | |||
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"I think it is interesting to discover that Tate isnt the big man hed like everyone to think he is and that hes actually just an arse puppet for some delusional nutter with a dodgy beard. How the mighty fall
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"My son is a big fan. Seems to have had quite a positive impact on him in terms of confidence, fitness, self belief etc. " Have you listened to him much ? | |||
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"My son is a big fan. Seems to have had quite a positive impact on him in terms of confidence, fitness, self belief etc. " Your son needs a slap | |||
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"My son is a big fan. Seems to have had quite a positive impact on him in terms of confidence, fitness, self belief etc. Your son needs a slap" You should prob put yourself second in the que then too | |||
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"I think it is interesting to discover that Tate isnt the big man hed like everyone to think he is and that hes actually just an arse puppet for some delusional nutter with a dodgy beard. How the mighty fall
Andrew Takeit
yeah that was my view of it "Hopefully he will now be seen for what he is and that hes not the big I am he pushes himself to be. Just another fake mouthpiece. | |||
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"My son is a big fan. Seems to have had quite a positive impact on him in terms of confidence, fitness, self belief etc. I'd be having a big talk with any of my kids who were listening to what he's saying. " Same. It's the bits the son isnt telling dad about. | |||
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"Yes Bog man and I know some really sensible put together hi achieving people who rushed to see Jordan Peterson. Some of them women too, always amazes me what people are lead to do and how easily we become sheep. And Gemma I like how you started that by saying My Peter lol u keep him well in his place haha " I was amazed at how many people went to see Peterson last year!..Social media is a danger. It was actually a bit disappointing that some Irish people think he's an intellectual. Have they listened to some of the shit he comes out with!? | |||
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"Yes Bog man and I know some really sensible put together hi achieving people who rushed to see Jordan Peterson. Some of them women too, always amazes me what people are lead to do and how easily we become sheep. And Gemma I like how you started that by saying My Peter lol u keep him well in his place haha I was amazed at how many people went to see Peterson last year!..Social media is a danger. It was actually a bit disappointing that some Irish people think he's an intellectual. Have they listened to some of the shit he comes out with!?" The first time I heard of Peterson was about 2 or 3 years ago when I saw him on TV. I couldn't believe some of the crap he was coming out with and I said so in a thread on here. I got absolutely shredded by some of our in-house intellectuals and told I didn't understand the bigger picture and maybe needed to stick to reading comics. It's ironic how none of them are here defending him now. | |||
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"Yes Bog man and I know some really sensible put together hi achieving people who rushed to see Jordan Peterson. Some of them women too, always amazes me what people are lead to do and how easily we become sheep. And Gemma I like how you started that by saying My Peter lol u keep him well in his place haha " He's another ones these so called "independent critical thinkers" flock to. Id call them far right sheep that will open their wallets to whoever sings the same song as them. Makes me laugh they get taken in by grifters and conmen | |||
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"Perhaps I’m naive but I don’t see all this hype and hysteria flowing into real life I don’t have any social media and I only hear of these internet personalities when they hit the homepage of the guardian or Irish times and I don’t see any of this culture war shite in my day to day life despite how often it’s mentioned. I think we’re all getting played, firstly it’s the ones fighting online and secondly it’s us thinking this is representative of the actual world." Some people are very influenced by what happens on social media. If you think that social media doesn't impact on the real world, then yes you are naive. Very naive. | |||
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"Then again most of them are the same as him, criminals and grifters. " --------------------------------- ....and shrimp dicks. | |||
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"My son is a big fan. Seems to have had quite a positive impact on him in terms of confidence, fitness, self belief etc. " --------------------------------- Despite his improved confidence etc have you seen any signs of your son becoming a misogynist? | |||
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"My son is a big fan. Seems to have had quite a positive impact on him in terms of confidence, fitness, self belief etc. " Well that’s wonderful. There was a lovey German man back in the day who got loads of lads fit, healthy and nicely tailored… how naive can one person be  | |||
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"How pray tell might Jordan Petterson and Andrew Tate be compared? I await my education..... " They’re both misogynists. Case closed, g’night  | |||
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"It's very easy to say something like that without actually proving it, it's also very easy to echo words of people who spoke before. I dare you to provide evidence of Dr Pettersons Misogyny " Madly you’re very like every Jordan Peterson fan boy I’ve ever encountered I think I’d have to show you evidence of him murdering 463 women before you’d concede the point. But let’s have a go… he’s a misogynist, not because like Tate, he uses horrifically sexist language, but because he absolutely reinforces the idea of a patriarchal society and pushes the constant message that men have it harder then women. He denies the impact of patriarchal society on women and seems obsessed with some alternate universe where the world is turning men into weaklings… It’s the implications of what he says, he’s a dog whistler. And some people hear the dog whistle, other people embrace it… like yourself I’d imagine | |||
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Nonsense, closed mind, sheep.
He's actually not a bad guy at all, I went in with your opinion | |||
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I actually got into one of these
My own fault.
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I actually got into one of these
My own fault.
But hey, I have an opinion that's my own"You have an opinion that's your own opinion that Jordan Peterson told you to have. Wow, how so unsheep like. You amaze me. | |||
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"I honestly can't believe logical people are comparing Tate and Peterson. It's crazy. " The are both social media whores who have gotten rich off of "exposing" the mistakes of the left, ridiculing the patriarchy, gender politics, gay families, #metoo etc. Peterson does it in a much more nuanced academic way, but the message is similar. Both are an aggressive masculine money-trains. They just have different approaches. | |||
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"None whatsoever If anything, the opposite. In a family full of strong women too. " ---------------------------------- Tate and 'strong women' is an incompatible philosophy. | |||
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"I guess my point was aimed at early teenage boys onwards who absorb information easily and are just trying to begin to form opinions and make sense of the world. They are impressionable and easily led to destructive messages. Particularly as these social media algorithms make a kind of echo chamber. Sensible adults can watch and see the glaring issues with this ideology. Kids not so much." I think history has shown that even adults are easily swayed | |||
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"Yes Bog man and I know some really sensible put together hi achieving people who rushed to see Jordan Peterson. Some of them women too, always amazes me what people are lead to do and how easily we become sheep. And Gemma I like how you started that by saying My Peter lol u keep him well in his place haha He's another ones these so called "independent critical thinkers" flock to. Id call them far right sheep that will open their wallets to whoever sings the same song as them. Makes me laugh they get taken in by grifters and conmen" Independent critical thinking is fundamental to growing and exploring... he just dresses old bullshit stone age attitude in sheeps wool . | |||
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"Perhaps I’m naive but I don’t see all this hype and hysteria flowing into real life I don’t have any social media and I only hear of these internet personalities when they hit the homepage of the guardian or Irish times and I don’t see any of this culture war shite in my day to day life despite how often it’s mentioned. There is a reasonable chance it is affecting life ,,, however only amount young and vulnerable... who in a few years will run the world I think we’re all getting played, firstly it’s the ones fighting online and secondly it’s us thinking this is representative of the actual world." | |||
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"No need for to be aggressive on a discussion forum. " People are entitled to express themselves.... also that could be the key to his shithead issues | |||
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"Actual bullshit " Mr. Peterson does not pause when he says this. Enforced monogamy is, to him, simply a rational solution. Otherwise women will all only go for the most high-status men, he explains, and that couldn’t make either gender happy in the end. “Half the men fail,” he says, meaning that they don’t procreate. “And no one cares about the men who fail.” I laugh, because it is absurd. “You’re laughing about them,” he says, giving me a disappointed look. “That’s because you’re female.” But aside from interventions that would redistribute sex, Mr. Peterson is staunchly against what he calls “equality of outcomes,” or efforts to equalize society. He usually calls them pathological or evil. He agrees that this is inconsistent. But preventing hordes of single men from violence, he believes, is necessary for the stability of society. Enforced monogamy helps neutralize that. | |||
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"Can there be morally-good or objectively-good content in Peterson's words? In Tate's words? To me the WISE (not intellectual or pseudo-intellectual) will listen to anyone's words, and sift out the content in which THEY see value or merit. "Normal", "good" people will hold value or merit in the words aligned with normal and good behaviour (eg, pertaining to or encouraging equal opportunity, justice...), but then obviously "insane" or "bad" people will value the words aligned with bad behaviour (eg, pertaining to selfishness, greed, misogyny...) If a young man today is positively influenced or directed by Tate's destructive misogynistic content, the isn't it likely that that young man was heading down that road on his own anyway? But isn't it more open-minded, clever, and wise to listen to more than just the stuff that we already agree with or that supports our own pre-existing perspective? I think I could probably watch 10 Tate videos demonstrating that he's a misogynistic arsehole without him turning me into one. I can watch Jordan Peterson for ages, and see merit in a lot of his content, but there are occasionally some bits & pieces that don't make sense to me or that disagree with me, and frankly surprise me that he says them. Things aren't always black & white, or just good or bad; sometimes we can find value in things we don't like. I love Alien Covenant - while Danny McBride was a woeful casting choice, I can still enjoy the movie... " Very fair ... everyone has good with their bad . Here's some examples from Pattersons rambling that give examples why it is unhealthy in nature. Also he actually just sounds like he has lost too much to female competition, or had no luck in life
Why is Jordan Peterson seen as misogynistic?
Because he says things like:
..women have a subconscious wish for brutal male domination
..that it’s unfortunate that men can’t control women who say crazy things because they aren't allowed to hit them
..women who don’t want to be harassed at work but wear make up are being "hypocritical"
..young women are outraged because they don't have a baby to suckle
..if a woman doesn’t want to have kids, there's something wrong with her
..and says “The idea that women were oppressed throughout history is an appalling theory.” - despite women lacking basic human rights and legally being owned by men throughout history
..says stuff like “Men cannot oppose pathological women because chivalry demands they keep their most potent weapons sheathed” on twitter
Plus his associating women with chaos and men with order and clearly preferring order/male control to women/female freedom. His implications that society and culture should be dominated by masculine hierarchies and that femininity is destroying culture.
“[Society is] increasingly dominated by a view of masculinity that’s mostly characteristic of women who have terrible personality disorders and who are unable to have healthy relationships with men.”
“[That] terrible femininity…is undermining the masculine power of the culture in a way that’s, I think, fatal.” | |||
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"Pretty interesting reading, I'm not seeing a hatred of women in any of it . I'm seeing one man's point of view that he expresses and explains. Just like you have. I enjoy reading other peoples points of view and when it differs from mine then it can be very interesting. " Do you see misogyny? | |||
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"I don't believe I do . Not in the respect of it being a hatred or putting down of women. I believe he is a social commentator who has his well documented views. I just find it difficult to believe that there is anything but a commentary designed to get people thinking, questioning and discussing. Its even happening here. " You don't see his as doing this for the cash at all? | |||
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"Jordan Peterson is also on the record as being anti trans. He is another example of a man with a big platform that is tapping into white male anxiety on a global scale for profit. Like the others he is a also a cash cow for those media organisations that amplify and contextualise his his opinions for the ad views. A very unsavoury individual in my opinion." He's not anti trans, his point was being forced to use language, trying to control his words. He was making his points but lots of people missed it and decided he was anti Trans. | |||
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"I don't believe I do . Not in the respect of it being a hatred or putting down of women. I believe he is a social commentator who has his well documented views. I just find it difficult to believe that there is anything but a commentary designed to get people thinking, questioning and discussing. Its even happening here. You don't see his as doing this for the cash at all?" He does like the limelight and obviously the financial benefits of it all. I find he has a very good way of expressing his thoughts and find him interesting. I do not agree with all of his ideology. | |||
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"Jordan Peterson is also on the record as being anti trans. He is another example of a man with a big platform that is tapping into white male anxiety on a global scale for profit. Like the others he is a also a cash cow for those media organisations that amplify and contextualise his his opinions for the ad views. A very unsavoury individual in my opinion. He's not anti trans, his point was being forced to use language, trying to control his words. He was making his points but lots of people missed it and decided he was anti Trans. " I've read quite a lot of his output and listened to his interviews and formed my open opinion. I respectfully disagree with your opinion on this. | |||
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"I don't believe I do . Not in the respect of it being a hatred or putting down of women. I believe he is a social commentator who has his well documented views. I just find it difficult to believe that there is anything but a commentary designed to get people thinking, questioning and discussing. Its even happening here. " You believe instigating such thought patterns in others like " ..that it’s unfortunate that men can’t control women who say crazy things because they aren't allowed to hit them" ..women who don’t want to be harassed at work but wear make up are being "hypocritical" ..if a woman doesn’t want to have kids, there's something wrong with her ..and says “The idea that women were oppressed throughout history is an appalling theory.” - despite women lacking basic human rights and legally being owned by men throughout history But if the choosiness wasn't there (as in the case of chimpanzees) then raqe would be unnecessary Granted the man points out alot of factually correct differences in gender. Clearly there are differences... however clearly from his above pieces and more ... he believes that these differences mean that hierarchy of males should be the norm in work,social,psychological and sexual fields . To extent that raqe is justified as a result of not maintaining this !!!! Thats a misogynist pretending to be an analyst. | |||
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"I'm so relieved no one is complaining about my beloved Ben Shipero "Haha. He's the dude who was the editor at Steve Bannons Breitbart network but left because he wouldn't support Trump because Trump wasnt right wing enough | |||
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"I'm so relieved no one is complaining about my beloved Ben Shipero "Correct me if I'm wrong but is he not the snowflake who went off on a rant about the Barbie movie being too female oriented and "woke"? | |||
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"I'm so relieved no one is complaining about my beloved Ben Shipero
Correct me if I'm wrong but is he not the snowflake who went off on a rant about the Barbie movie being too female oriented and "woke"?"He's the dude that claimed on his show that the female orgasm is a myth! Basically saying his wife has never had one! (With him anyway). | |||
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"I'm so relieved no one is complaining about my beloved Ben Shipero
Correct me if I'm wrong but is he not the snowflake who went off on a rant about the Barbie movie being too female oriented and "woke"?
He's the dude that claimed on his show that the female orgasm is a myth!
Basically saying his wife has never had one! (With him anyway)."That sounds about right. It's a good job he's rich, because that guy has incel written all over him  | |||
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"I'm so relieved no one is complaining about my beloved Ben Shipero
Correct me if I'm wrong but is he not the snowflake who went off on a rant about the Barbie movie being too female oriented and "woke"?
He's the dude that claimed on his show that the female orgasm is a myth!
Basically saying his wife has never had one! (With him anyway)."Real men don't care !! | |||
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"I'm so relieved no one is complaining about my beloved Ben Shipero
Correct me if I'm wrong but is he not the snowflake who went off on a rant about the Barbie movie being too female oriented and "woke"?
He's the dude that claimed on his show that the female orgasm is a myth!
Basically saying his wife has never had one! (With him anyway)."Same twat so | |||
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"I'm so relieved no one is complaining about my beloved Ben Shipero
Correct me if I'm wrong but is he not the snowflake who went off on a rant about the Barbie movie being too female oriented and "woke"?
He's the dude that claimed on his show that the female orgasm is a myth!
Basically saying his wife has never had one! (With him anyway).
Real men don't care !!"Manly men, doing manly things! | |||
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"I'm so relieved no one is complaining about my beloved Ben Shipero
Correct me if I'm wrong but is he not the snowflake who went off on a rant about the Barbie movie being too female oriented and "woke"?
He's the dude that claimed on his show that the female orgasm is a myth!
Basically saying his wife has never had one! (With him anyway)."--------------------------------- | |||
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