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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford

So judgmental ?

Why do people attack others ?

It seems to me that there is a culture within the forums of condemnation and judgment. Its always been a factor , well I'm my many years on anyway, however it never seemed to be so overarching in the past.

Is it just a sign of woke times ?

Like Obama says .. utopian and judgmental.

Could it be that people are more forceful in numbers and thus loose their objectivity?

One dog may bark at you but it’s more likely that a pack will attack you.

We are not exempt from that behavior because we are human and not canine. As evidenced by dogs operating in a pack environment, human society is based on group dynamics.

As humans, we have instinctual responses that are exacerbated by group influences.

What we might not do as individuals we may do as part of a group. People may lose control of their usual inhibitions, as their mentality becomes that of the group.

Could it be that tolerance and understanding have had to give way to peer pressure?

The lizard brain’s aim is survival. And survival meant being accepted by the tribe, not cast out to said bear. So an occasional ‘yes when we mean no’ can be the result of a primal instinct to avoid being ostracised

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

But if a lot of people share the same viewpoint does it have to be seen as an attack or just that your viewpoint is different to everyone elses

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By *adylaceWoman
over a year ago

Waterford City

I think a lot of the time texting views or opinions can be picked up in ways that were unintended which causes friction.

I've pretty much always taken the devil's advocate view with most things in life so I try to see things from everyone's point of view.

There are also a few people that just love to throw grenades into a conversation so they can sit back and enjoy the fallout.

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By *he zephyrCouple
over a year ago

The Sol

Theres a lot to take in there OP.

Personally speaking, I didn't intend for you to feel attacked by my earlier comments, though I couldn't agree with your points and I was becoming upset. ('too woke'??)

In the end I thought to myself why am I getting het-up about this. Fab is about orgasms not ostracisms! Make love not war.

(Peace)

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"But if a lot of people share the same viewpoint does it have to be seen as an attack or just that your viewpoint is different to everyone elses

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Not a question of view points ... its a question of imposing views onto others and attacking them to further your delivery.

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"I think a lot of the time texting views or opinions can be picked up in ways that were unintended which causes friction.

I've pretty much always taken the devil's advocate view with most things in life so I try to see things from everyone's point of view.

There are also a few people that just love to throw grenades into a conversation so they can sit back and enjoy the fallout."

I too try to adopt the same position, when I can control myself

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"Theres a lot to take in there OP.

Personally speaking, I didn't intend for you to feel attacked by my earlier comments, though I couldn't agree with your points and I was becoming upset. ('too woke'??)

In the end I thought to myself why am I getting het-up about this. Fab is about orgasms not ostracisms! Make love not war.

(Peace) "

This is a common theme on fab , thats why I'm asking in open manner as I see it all to often!

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By *antra MassageMan
over a year ago

South Side.

Ive noticed a cultural shift on the fab forums. Less debate, more aggro.

Perhaps a case of winning the argument rather than listening and discussing. Ive recently moved to the dark site, (FxtLxfe), where debate and sharing of opinions is more reasonable, educated, and easy than the forum here. But, only a tiny % use the forum here, so it's probably not representative of all Fabbers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree. I've noticed an increase in negative comments across forums.

I believe it's a common issue across all social media.

The vast majority of people reading a message they don't agree with, simply ignore it. They don't feel that they have to comment.

For some reason, some people feel the need to respond to posts, even if they are clearly not intended for them.

Also it seems that people who feel the need to comment, are often motivated by the need to "be right". As if correcting someone makes them somehow better (the behaviour Obama pointed out).

Ricky Gervais has a take on it: https://youtu.be/uEawbnXaIDs

As my grandmother used to say, "Ciarán, if you can't say something smart, say something nice, and in your case, you don't have an option."

She was a tough woman.

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By *adylaceWoman
over a year ago

Waterford City


"Ive noticed a cultural shift on the fab forums. Less debate, more aggro.

Perhaps a case of winning the argument rather than listening and discussing. Ive recently moved to the dark site, (FxtLxfe), where debate and sharing of opinions is more reasonable, educated, and easy than the forum here. But, only a tiny % use the forum here, so it's probably not representative of all Fabbers. "

I have to say that I haven't found that other site to be any better. I've actually witnessed a lot more negativity and drama there than here over the last year. Including a few witch hunts without all of the facts. So unfortunately it is pretty wide spread across all sites I think.

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"Ive noticed a cultural shift on the fab forums. Less debate, more aggro.

Perhaps a case of winning the argument rather than listening and discussing. Ive recently moved to the dark site, (FxtLxfe), where debate and sharing of opinions is more reasonable, educated, and easy than the forum here. But, only a tiny % use the forum here, so it's probably not representative of all Fabbers.

I have to say that I haven't found that other site to be any better. I've actually witnessed a lot more negativity and drama there than here over the last year. Including a few witch hunts without all of the facts. So unfortunately it is pretty wide spread across all sites I think. "

Thats genuinely sad

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By *rish_GuyMan
over a year ago

Foxford

I'm not very long on here or using the forum compared to most of the other's on here. I can see that aswell. In some cases it's a case of someone writes something & it meaning 1 thing. Then another person reads it & it means something else completely different to that person. Then it's a case of shots fired, fire back ASAP.

Like it was said earlier, somepeople just love throwing grenades into the mix & see what happens.

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"I'm not very long on here or using the forum compared to most of the other's on here. I can see that aswell. In some cases it's a case of someone writes something & it meaning 1 thing. Then another person reads it & it means something else completely different to that person. Then it's a case of shots fired, fire back ASAP.

Like it was said earlier, somepeople just love throwing grenades into the mix & see what happens. "

There in lies a big issue with human communication... people interpret meaning in words . These interpretations stem from our own beliefs, rather that from the person who said the words.

This is the root of all assumptions and assumptions are the root of all fuck ups....

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By *rish_GuyMan
over a year ago

Foxford


"I'm not very long on here or using the forum compared to most of the other's on here. I can see that aswell. In some cases it's a case of someone writes something & it meaning 1 thing. Then another person reads it & it means something else completely different to that person. Then it's a case of shots fired, fire back ASAP.

Like it was said earlier, somepeople just love throwing grenades into the mix & see what happens.

There in lies a big issue with human communication... people interpret meaning in words . These interpretations stem from our own beliefs, rather that from the person who said the words.

This is the root of all assumptions and assumptions are the root of all fuck ups.... "

Ya,that's true(For me), other's mightn't see it like that at all, for some reason.

(We might be on about different thing's here) IF a person assumes anything, that's usually when the shit thing's the fan. Things go wrong & a war starts between them.

Ie. 2 people shopping, eachone assumes the other person is picking something up that they need. Where's in the end none of them picked & war starts ASAP.

That's partly 1 of the reasons why what I write does be so long. As I try to cover thing's, so someone doesn't assume that I'm talking about something that I not talking about at all. It's also why I use emojis & where possible use gif.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Like most people I'm judgemental based on particular experiences or engagement with individuals but I don't attack anyone.

I might ask them to explain themselves more clearly but generally I can't be arsed which is why I don't post on the vast majority of threads.

I don't subscribe to the pack mentality and if I see lots of people having a go at someone over something I'm more than likely going to give that thread a miss completely.

If on the other hand I see lots of people sucking up to someone in a thread and ignoring all the blindingly obvious red flags that aren't consistent with what they are saying I might make an effort to ask why everyone is choosing to turn a blind eye?

I don't get annoyed or upset over anything said on here because most of it is superficial and tossed in for effect.

Trolls aren't always wrong and they rarely miss their targets so the saddest part is seeing lots of well educated and intelligent adults falling for it over and over and not knowing when they are being played.

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"Like most people I'm judgemental based on particular experiences or engagement with individuals but I don't attack anyone.

I might ask them to explain themselves more clearly but generally I can't be arsed which is why I don't post on the vast majority of threads.

I don't subscribe to the pack mentality and if I see lots of people having a go at someone over something I'm more than likely going to give that thread a miss completely.

If on the other hand I see lots of people sucking up to someone in a thread and ignoring all the blindingly obvious red flags that aren't consistent with what they are saying I might make an effort to ask why everyone is choosing to turn a blind eye?

I don't get annoyed or upset over anything said on here because most of it is superficial and tossed in for effect.

Trolls aren't always wrong and they rarely miss their targets so the saddest part is seeing lots of well educated and intelligent adults falling for it over and over and not knowing when they are being played. "

I would be of the opinion that to ignore pack mentality when its a case of attack , and to challenge pack mentality when its a case of adoration is counter production and dare i say shit stirring .

Your last paragraph seems to me ( i maybe wrong) quite cynical of people in general.

Is troll labeling becoming a new way of shouting someone down with a differing opinion when your out of road ?

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By *electableicecreamMan
over a year ago

The West

I feel there is a pattern of argumentative poster's that then feel victimised when the overall opinion of a thread goes against them.

Suddenly disagreement is an attack

Suddenly a few people united in disagreement is a mob.

This isn't the first thread in the last few weeks where someone felt the need to complain that no one agrees with them.

OP you pretty much post in every thread, often off topic and often leaning into controversy. If you can't take the heat. Take a break.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Id take the honest open disagreement every day over the sycophantic asskissing.

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"I feel there is a pattern of argumentative poster's that then feel victimised when the overall opinion of a thread goes against them.

Suddenly disagreement is an attack

Suddenly a few people united in disagreement is a mob.

This isn't the first thread in the last few weeks where someone felt the need to complain that no one agrees with them.

OP you pretty much post in every thread, often off topic and often leaning into controversy. If you can't take the heat. Take a break."

I post in some treads of interest or fun .

You class me as argumentative , given your post you believe I'm argumentative as I don't agree with you and the majority on occasions. I would imagine its your need to fit in that views opposing opinions as argumentative.

You replies in some treads to people imply you know the kinda person they are based on their differing opinion to you ,and when you meet someone who can stand their ground and stay firm to their point without allowing you to attach other meaning to their point ,you resort to assumptions of their view point and their life!

Disagreement isn't attack

Just like disagreement isn't argument!

Attack is the unfounded attaching of negative assumptions to a person and the misasociation of negative beliefs to a person to further your own stance .

Frankly it's weak , however it can also me quite damaging to some .

Again you choose to protray this tread in your own negative light to somehow add substance to your own agenda.

Heat isn't an issue ... disingenuous manipulation of peoples views in order to justify your stance, when you can't control yourself enought to read what someone is saying without tanting it through your own judgmental lenses is pretty shitty tbf

However I'm in no doubt , you already know all this !

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"Id take the honest open disagreement every day over the sycophantic asskissing."

Some people have convinced themselves or been convinced that if they shoot down anything that makes them seem tolerant or nice then the are righteous... however it really just highlights the fact that they are highly intolerant to people who differ from them !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've said it before, sometimes a group of individuals disagreeing with is just that. No mob, no pack. They just don't agree with you.

PS. Does the author know you've plagiarised them?

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Oh look we all agree and disagree with the same stuff. We are so alike. Let's fuck"

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area


"Id take the honest open disagreement every day over the sycophantic asskissing."

Absolutely

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"I've said it before, sometimes a group of individuals disagreeing with is just that. No mob, no pack. They just don't agree with you.

PS. Does the author know you've plagiarised them? "

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

I wouldn't believe anyone who says they can't see the difference on here in posts!

Absolutely... people seem to take more heed of bodies of work or famous opinions that fab notions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've said it before, sometimes a group of individuals disagreeing with is just that. No mob, no pack. They just don't agree with you.

PS. Does the author know you've plagiarised them?

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

I wouldn't believe anyone who says they can't see the difference on here in posts!

Absolutely... people seem to take more heed of bodies of work or famous opinions that fab notions "

Perhaps you should credit her

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"I've said it before, sometimes a group of individuals disagreeing with is just that. No mob, no pack. They just don't agree with you.

PS. Does the author know you've plagiarised them?

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

I wouldn't believe anyone who says they can't see the difference on here in posts!

Absolutely... people seem to take more heed of bodies of work or famous opinions that fab notions

Perhaps you should credit her "

There were 3 ...

I assumed anyone could see that those words were clearly written together by someone else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

"

Is it possible that when you disagree you are a free thinker;

boldly challenging where no-one has challenged before? Yet when others collectively disagree with you they are a baying mob; lemmings incapable of not picking up the righteous pitchfork?

Every time?

Really?

Why can disagreement on Fab not be taken at face value? Why must there be an ulterior motive to that disagreement?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've said it before, sometimes a group of individuals disagreeing with is just that. No mob, no pack. They just don't agree with you.

PS. Does the author know you've plagiarised them?

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

I wouldn't believe anyone who says they can't see the difference on here in posts!

Absolutely... people seem to take more heed of bodies of work or famous opinions that fab notions

Perhaps you should credit her

There were 3 ...

I assumed anyone could see that those words were clearly written together by someone else "

What did you say up there about assumptions?

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"I've said it before, sometimes a group of individuals disagreeing with is just that. No mob, no pack. They just don't agree with you.

PS. Does the author know you've plagiarised them?

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

I wouldn't believe anyone who says they can't see the difference on here in posts!

Absolutely... people seem to take more heed of bodies of work or famous opinions that fab notions

Perhaps you should credit her

There were 3 ...

I assumed anyone could see that those words were clearly written together by someone else

What did you say up there about assumptions? "

And I proved myself right

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast


"Like most people I'm judgemental based on particular experiences or engagement with individuals but I don't attack anyone.

I might ask them to explain themselves more clearly but generally I can't be arsed which is why I don't post on the vast majority of threads.

I don't subscribe to the pack mentality and if I see lots of people having a go at someone over something I'm more than likely going to give that thread a miss completely.

If on the other hand I see lots of people sucking up to someone in a thread and ignoring all the blindingly obvious red flags that aren't consistent with what they are saying I might make an effort to ask why everyone is choosing to turn a blind eye?

I don't get annoyed or upset over anything said on here because most of it is superficial and tossed in for effect.

Trolls aren't always wrong and they rarely miss their targets so the saddest part is seeing lots of well educated and intelligent adults falling for it over and over and not knowing when they are being played.

I would be of the opinion that to ignore pack mentality when its a case of attack , and to challenge pack mentality when its a case of adoration is counter production and dare i say shit stirring .

Your last paragraph seems to me ( i maybe wrong) quite cynical of people in general.

Is troll labeling becoming a new way of shouting someone down with a differing opinion when your out of road ? "

Yes I am cynical of people on here because I don't meet as many individuals with specific agendas elsewhere.

Shit stirring is when something is said for effect rather than stating the obvious.

If the pack are picking on a male poster for a particular opinion and choosing to ignore exactly the same thoughts from a woman is it really shitstirring to point out their fanny blindness?

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By *electableicecreamMan
over a year ago

The West


" Again you choose to protray this tread in your own negative light to somehow add substance to your own agenda. "

And then;

Suddenly,

There's an agenda.

This is a fairly standard playbook

Do go on.

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

Is it possible that when you disagree you are a free thinker;

boldly challenging where no-one has challenged before? Yet when others collectively disagree with you they are a baying mob; lemmings incapable of not picking up the righteous pitchfork?

Every time?

Really?

Why can disagreement on Fab not be taken at face value? Why must there be an ulterior motive to that disagreement?"

Your an intelligent person .

I'm dubois as to why your trying to make out this about disagreement rather that the actual issue of disagreeing in the form of judging, misrepresenting, and down right pack mentality with a good coating of virtue signaling.

Is there a reason your doing this cause we both know you understand the opening post ?

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By *indenMan
over a year ago

Naas which is South West of Dublin


"I've said it before, sometimes a group of individuals disagreeing with is just that. No mob, no pack. They just don't agree with you.

PS. Does the author know you've plagiarised them?

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

I wouldn't believe anyone who says they can't see the difference on here in posts!

Absolutely... people seem to take more heed of bodies of work or famous opinions that fab notions

Perhaps you should credit her

There were 3 ...

I assumed anyone could see that those words were clearly written together by someone else

What did you say up there about assumptions?

And I proved myself right "

Why the need to prove yourself right?

Do you think that could be part of the problem?

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"Like most people I'm judgemental based on particular experiences or engagement with individuals but I don't attack anyone.

I might ask them to explain themselves more clearly but generally I can't be arsed which is why I don't post on the vast majority of threads.

I don't subscribe to the pack mentality and if I see lots of people having a go at someone over something I'm more than likely going to give that thread a miss completely.

If on the other hand I see lots of people sucking up to someone in a thread and ignoring all the blindingly obvious red flags that aren't consistent with what they are saying I might make an effort to ask why everyone is choosing to turn a blind eye?

I don't get annoyed or upset over anything said on here because most of it is superficial and tossed in for effect.

Trolls aren't always wrong and they rarely miss their targets so the saddest part is seeing lots of well educated and intelligent adults falling for it over and over and not knowing when they are being played.

I would be of the opinion that to ignore pack mentality when its a case of attack , and to challenge pack mentality when its a case of adoration is counter production and dare i say shit stirring .

Your last paragraph seems to me ( i maybe wrong) quite cynical of people in general.

Is troll labeling becoming a new way of shouting someone down with a differing opinion when your out of road ?

Yes I am cynical of people on here because I don't meet as many individuals with specific agendas elsewhere.

Shit stirring is when something is said for effect rather than stating the obvious.

If the pack are picking on a male poster for a particular opinion and choosing to ignore exactly the same thoughts from a woman is it really shitstirring to point out their fanny blindness?

"
fair point on agendas

So really your pointing out the fact the pack picked on someone rather that asskissed another ?

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


" Again you choose to protray this tread in your own negative light to somehow add substance to your own agenda.

And then;

Suddenly,

There's an agenda.

This is a fairly standard playbook

Do go on."

Pitiful tbh . You did the same on the last tread ... you try to make out someone is being something their not and when you run out of shit to sling ... you resort to stereo typing.... pitiful.

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"I've said it before, sometimes a group of individuals disagreeing with is just that. No mob, no pack. They just don't agree with you.

PS. Does the author know you've plagiarised them?

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

I wouldn't believe anyone who says they can't see the difference on here in posts!

Absolutely... people seem to take more heed of bodies of work or famous opinions that fab notions

Perhaps you should credit her

There were 3 ...

I assumed anyone could see that those words were clearly written together by someone else

What did you say up there about assumptions?

And I proved myself right

Why the need to prove yourself right?

Do you think that could be part of the problem?"

I was joking cause she hung me on something I had said

Ffs relax ... I don't feel the need to be right ... it dose seem that if you have more than one way to sustciate an opinion on fab many of you think that must mean that person just wants to be right. I'd imagine that's your internal filter creating that perception... not the other person !

Its bothers you to be disagreed with ?

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By *indenMan
over a year ago

Naas which is South West of Dublin


"I've said it before, sometimes a group of individuals disagreeing with is just that. No mob, no pack. They just don't agree with you.

PS. Does the author know you've plagiarised them?

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

I wouldn't believe anyone who says they can't see the difference on here in posts!

Absolutely... people seem to take more heed of bodies of work or famous opinions that fab notions

Perhaps you should credit her

There were 3 ...

I assumed anyone could see that those words were clearly written together by someone else

What did you say up there about assumptions?

And I proved myself right

Why the need to prove yourself right?

Do you think that could be part of the problem?

I was joking cause she hung me on something I had said

Ffs relax ... I don't feel the need to be right ... it dose seem that if you have more than one way to sustciate an opinion on fab many of you think that must mean that person just wants to be right. I'd imagine that's your internal filter creating that perception... not the other person !

Its bothers you to be disagreed with ? "

Nope, doesn’t bother me at all, lots of people disagree with me, and they’re often right.

I’m genuinely very relaxed, are you?

It doesn’t seem so…..

Do you need a hug?……

If RTE was as entertaining as this I’d probably consider paying for a licence……

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By *1CorkCouple
over a year ago

Cork

Man regularly attacks others on forum. Man expresses odious views on an Internet forum which attract criticism, by his own design perhaps, difficult to know. Man plays victim and moans about the attack culture on forum. Give me a break.

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"I've said it before, sometimes a group of individuals disagreeing with is just that. No mob, no pack. They just don't agree with you.

PS. Does the author know you've plagiarised them?

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

I wouldn't believe anyone who says they can't see the difference on here in posts!

Absolutely... people seem to take more heed of bodies of work or famous opinions that fab notions

Perhaps you should credit her

There were 3 ...

I assumed anyone could see that those words were clearly written together by someone else

What did you say up there about assumptions?

And I proved myself right

Why the need to prove yourself right?

Do you think that could be part of the problem?

I was joking cause she hung me on something I had said

Ffs relax ... I don't feel the need to be right ... it dose seem that if you have more than one way to sustciate an opinion on fab many of you think that must mean that person just wants to be right. I'd imagine that's your internal filter creating that perception... not the other person !

Its bothers you to be disagreed with ?

Nope, doesn’t bother me at all, lots of people disagree with me, and they’re often right.

I’m genuinely very relaxed, are you?

It doesn’t seem so…..

Do you need a hug?……

If RTE was as entertaining as this I’d probably consider paying for a licence…… "

I'm ok thanks

I would advise you to get out some more if this is where you're getting your entertainment though. You must know that's the reason you're cynical?

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"Man regularly attacks others on forum. Man expresses odious views on an Internet forum which attract criticism, by his own design perhaps, difficult to know. Man plays victim and moans about the attack culture on forum. Give me a break."

Ah tbf ... your attitude gets you plenty of break time on here

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over a year ago


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People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

Is it possible that when you disagree you are a free thinker;

boldly challenging where no-one has challenged before? Yet when others collectively disagree with you they are a baying mob; lemmings incapable of not picking up the righteous pitchfork?

Every time?

Really?

Why can disagreement on Fab not be taken at face value? Why must there be an ulterior motive to that disagreement?

Your an intelligent person .

I'm dubois as to why your trying to make out this about disagreement rather that the actual issue of disagreeing in the form of judging, misrepresenting, and down right pack mentality with a good coating of virtue signaling.

Is there a reason your doing this cause we both know you understand the opening post ? "

Well, no. You're saying what happens on Fab is not disagreement. I'm saying, what if it IS just that? And why, when the many collectively disagree, its something that's reframed as a pack mentality pile-one with an ulterior motive

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

Is it possible that when you disagree you are a free thinker;

boldly challenging where no-one has challenged before? Yet when others collectively disagree with you they are a baying mob; lemmings incapable of not picking up the righteous pitchfork?

Every time?

Really?

Why can disagreement on Fab not be taken at face value? Why must there be an ulterior motive to that disagreement?

Your an intelligent person .

I'm dubois as to why your trying to make out this about disagreement rather that the actual issue of disagreeing in the form of judging, misrepresenting, and down right pack mentality with a good coating of virtue signaling.

Is there a reason your doing this cause we both know you understand the opening post ?

Well, no. You're saying what happens on Fab is not disagreement. I'm saying, what if it IS just that? And why, when the many collectively disagree, its something that's reframed as a pack mentality pile-one with an ulterior motive"

Again , I don't know if your confused or twisting !

Given your training background I'm leaning towards the latter

You know that I didn't day what happens on fab is not a disagreement!

I said what your referring to a disagreement where this post is referring to the manner of misrepresenting and twisting and belittling that goes on following a disagree which is influenced by pack attack behavior and judgmentalness .

You know thats what I'm saying and you know I don't have issues with disagreements ...

Whats your point in making out I'm saying disagreements are an issue ?

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By *ogladyWoman
over a year ago

The bog

Ibe Only one to say on all this..and that is YER ALL MAd...

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By *ohng69Man
over a year ago

athenry

Someone is craving attention I think

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By *1CorkCouple
over a year ago

Cork


"Man regularly attacks others on forum. Man expresses odious views on an Internet forum which attract criticism, by his own design perhaps, difficult to know. Man plays victim and moans about the attack culture on forum. Give me a break.

Ah tbf ... your attitude gets you plenty of break time on here "

Not sure what you mean by that. If you’re responsible for a large portion of posts on the forum, you are the culture you’re complaining about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

Is it possible that when you disagree you are a free thinker;

boldly challenging where no-one has challenged before? Yet when others collectively disagree with you they are a baying mob; lemmings incapable of not picking up the righteous pitchfork?

Every time?

Really?

Why can disagreement on Fab not be taken at face value? Why must there be an ulterior motive to that disagreement?

Your an intelligent person .

I'm dubois as to why your trying to make out this about disagreement rather that the actual issue of disagreeing in the form of judging, misrepresenting, and down right pack mentality with a good coating of virtue signaling.

Is there a reason your doing this cause we both know you understand the opening post ?

Well, no. You're saying what happens on Fab is not disagreement. I'm saying, what if it IS just that? And why, when the many collectively disagree, its something that's reframed as a pack mentality pile-one with an ulterior motive

Again , I don't know if your confused or twisting !

Given your training background I'm leaning towards the latter

You know that I didn't day what happens on fab is not a disagreement!

I said what your referring to a disagreement where this post is referring to the manner of misrepresenting and twisting and belittling that goes on following a disagree which is influenced by pack attack behavior and judgmentalness .

You know thats what I'm saying and you know I don't have issues with disagreements ...

Whats your point in making out I'm saying disagreements are an issue ? "

I think we're talking at cross purposes. I'm asking are you seeing attack/judgement where there is sometimes simply collective disagreement? I'm not sure how I can reduce the question any further than that. I'm certainly not twisting anything.

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"Man regularly attacks others on forum. Man expresses odious views on an Internet forum which attract criticism, by his own design perhaps, difficult to know. Man plays victim and moans about the attack culture on forum. Give me a break.

Ah tbf ... your attitude gets you plenty of break time on here

Not sure what you mean by that. If you’re responsible for a large portion of posts on the forum, you are the culture you’re complaining about."

I'm not so no worries

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"

People can and should disagree all the time , its the only way we learn i think . Disagreement is different that what goes on on fab when some get their horses out and associate fuckd up beliefs to people's words to make themselves seem more right/open or whatever!

Thats not disagreement!

Is it possible that when you disagree you are a free thinker;

boldly challenging where no-one has challenged before? Yet when others collectively disagree with you they are a baying mob; lemmings incapable of not picking up the righteous pitchfork?

Every time?

Really?

Why can disagreement on Fab not be taken at face value? Why must there be an ulterior motive to that disagreement?

Your an intelligent person .

I'm dubois as to why your trying to make out this about disagreement rather that the actual issue of disagreeing in the form of judging, misrepresenting, and down right pack mentality with a good coating of virtue signaling.

Is there a reason your doing this cause we both know you understand the opening post ?

Well, no. You're saying what happens on Fab is not disagreement. I'm saying, what if it IS just that? And why, when the many collectively disagree, its something that's reframed as a pack mentality pile-one with an ulterior motive

Again , I don't know if your confused or twisting !

Given your training background I'm leaning towards the latter

You know that I didn't day what happens on fab is not a disagreement!

I said what your referring to a disagreement where this post is referring to the manner of misrepresenting and twisting and belittling that goes on following a disagree which is influenced by pack attack behavior and judgmentalness .

You know thats what I'm saying and you know I don't have issues with disagreements ...

Whats your point in making out I'm saying disagreements are an issue ?

I think we're talking at cross purposes. I'm asking are you seeing attack/judgement where there is sometimes simply collective disagreement? I'm not sure how I can reduce the question any further than that. I'm certainly not twisting anything."

No I'm not as im not referring to disagreement, rather the behaviors that are happening around disagreements on fab !

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By *itemeagain OP   Man
over a year ago

Wexford


"Someone is craving attention I think "

Ah John... Noone is forgetting you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fab is not real life folks so get over yourselves!

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

Of course fab is judgemental I don't know why anyone would think it would be any different on here than any other site or in life outside of here.

Yes people will disagree ,yes some people will fight to the death to prove that their opinion is right and anyone who disagrees is wrong. Yes there are people who will take offence when none is meant and get their friends to back them up as well.And yes there will be times when a good few people will actually just genuinely disagree with someone else.

It's a forum on a site on the internet the same as any other. You can either go down the rabbit hole and take it all so seriously and think it's life and death on here for your fab journey or you can just pop in and out post whatever you feel like and forget about it after.You will never agree with everyone and there will be people who you just don't like for whatever reason. But that doesn't mean people have to bite everytime they post either.

The forums are not that big a deal on fab it doesn't give people power on fab,even though some would disagree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fab is not real life folks so get over yourselves! "

Better things could be done with a Saturday evening!!

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere


"Ibe Only one to say on all this..and that is YER ALL MAd..."

Id agree with since you're my sister

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Of course fab is judgemental I don't know why anyone would think it would be any different on here than any other site or in life outside of here.

Yes people will disagree ,yes some people will fight to the death to prove that their opinion is right and anyone who disagrees is wrong. Yes there are people who will take offence when none is meant and get their friends to back them up as well.And yes there will be times when a good few people will actually just genuinely disagree with someone else.

It's a forum on a site on the internet the same as any other. You can either go down the rabbit hole and take it all so seriously and think it's life and death on here for your fab journey or you can just pop in and out post whatever you feel like and forget about it after.You will never agree with everyone and there will be people who you just don't like for whatever reason. But that doesn't mean people have to bite everytime they post either.

The forums are not that big a deal on fab it doesn't give people power on fab,even though some would disagree.

"

That is a very sensible contribution well presented. Bo you must be a very articulated lady. Fair play to you.

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