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By *asual777 OP   Man
50 weeks ago

i travel all over

So naturally I am posting

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By *og-ManMan
50 weeks ago

somewhere

Not normally the sexiest this early but I'll take it

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago


"Not normally the sexiest this early but I'll take it "

You got your two minutes, now it’s my turn

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary

This is ridiculous but I'm here for it

Em x

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By *s979Man
50 weeks ago

same

Buena sexo

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

I know I’m smarter than this but I can’t seem to help myself

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By *rish_GuyMan
50 weeks ago

Foxford

I'm far from sexy.

I can dream right?

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By *ingobrian70Man
50 weeks ago

tallaght

My turn

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By *ottie00Woman
50 weeks ago

Dublin

Above is sexy but hello

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By *electableicecreamMan
50 weeks ago

The West

Ya gotta love yourself right?

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By *eard and BoobsCouple
50 weeks ago

Portstewart

Can't we all have a turn at being the centre of attention

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By *adger BrocMan
50 weeks ago

Co. Cork


"Not normally the sexiest this early but I'll take it

You got your two minutes, now it’s my turn "

It's always your turn Emm.

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick

Helloooo

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By *og-ManMan
50 weeks ago

somewhere


"Helloooo "

In fairness you'd normally be the winner

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By *ollypop9Woman
50 weeks ago

wouldn't you like to know

Sorry I'm lost, is this the thread about how to get a coffee meet ?

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By *llthewaysMan
50 weeks ago

Somewhere


"Sorry I'm lost, is this the thread about how to get a coffee meet ?"

Nice try Lollypop but you are dethroned!

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By *ust4funcoupleCouple
50 weeks ago

Moira

My little bro is the hottest..Bogman

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By *otownkid1967Man
50 weeks ago

Portlaoise


"Sorry I'm lost, is this the thread about how to get a coffee meet ?"

Tell me the time and place and I'll be there

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By *rish In DubaiMan
50 weeks ago

Carlow

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Please do tell who won the last one

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By *rCurious_MrsCuriousCouple
50 weeks ago

Letterkenny

Damn theirs a lot of sexy in this thread! **jumps in**

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By *onderingpurposeMan
50 weeks ago

Belfast

I'll take that thank you

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By *anandJCouple
50 weeks ago

Citywest


"I'll take that thank you"

Was fun wasn’t it?

Our turn

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick

In like Flynn

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

If everyone is famous for 2 minutes

Surely I can be sexiest for 1 minute

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By *iktikiCouple
50 weeks ago

city centre

Iurking here, waiting to pounce

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By *asual777 OP   Man
50 weeks ago

i travel all over

Went to the gym , swam and got a tan today so feeling like the sexiest

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By *isnameismargaretMan
50 weeks ago

Dublin

You were for six minutes.

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By *ollypop9Woman
50 weeks ago

wouldn't you like to know

Sorry, me again. Can nobody direct me to the right thread ?

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By *og-ManMan
50 weeks ago

somewhere


"Sorry, me again. Can nobody direct me to the right thread ?"

This is not the thread you're looking for

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By *idlands couple23Couple
50 weeks ago

mullingar

Chancing my arm

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By *igMartyRebelMan
50 weeks ago

East Cork

Did I win?

Is there a prize?

Honestly I would never describe myself as sexy but certainly ruggedly handsome

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By *iktikiCouple
50 weeks ago

city centre

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By *ewcouplesdCouple
50 weeks ago

near

This thread is now closed.

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By *otmyrealname!!Man
50 weeks ago

Kerry


"This thread is now closed."

Can’t argue with these two!!

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick


"This thread is now closed.

Can’t argue with these two!!"

I think you just did

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By *og-ManMan
50 weeks ago

somewhere


"This thread is now closed.

Can’t argue with these two!!

I think you just did "

Hate arguing

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By *iktikiCouple
50 weeks ago

city centre


"This thread is now closed.

Can’t argue with these two!!

I think you just did

Hate arguing "

Lurking is so much better

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By *anandJCouple
50 weeks ago

Citywest

Good morning Sexies

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By *og-ManMan
50 weeks ago

somewhere

Is this the good morning thread

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By *ollypop9Woman
50 weeks ago

wouldn't you like to know


"Is this the good morning thread "

Not at all. Like me, you're on the wrong thread.

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By *ingobrian70Man
50 weeks ago

tallaght

Looking good Lollipop

My turn

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick

Meeeeeeeeee

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

This has given me an instant hard on. Where are the cuck couples?

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By *asual777 OP   Man
50 weeks ago

i travel all over

Radiating confidence and sexiness today

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By *ollypop9Woman
50 weeks ago

wouldn't you like to know

Last one switches off the lights..

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By *oxie2021Man
50 weeks ago

Dublin

I literally got the postman as he was collecting at 6pm this evening in Rathcoole… nobody got into that bag after me! Does that count???

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin

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By *og-ManMan
50 weeks ago

somewhere


" "

We still doing this ....see ya in 6 weeks

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By *j TruckerMan
50 weeks ago

monaghan

ME

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago


"ME

This post is no longer available

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That was short lived..sorry!

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By *ayomaleMan
50 weeks ago

ballina

Am I last

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

At least but not last

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By *arrot_in_a_boxCouple
50 weeks ago

Kinda Dublin

Woopee

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By *j TruckerMan
50 weeks ago

monaghan


"ME

This post is no longer available

That was short lived..sorry! "

Oh well it was worth a try

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago


"ME

This post is no longer available

That was short lived..sorry!

Oh well it was worth a try "

Yeah it was

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin

Always worth a try….

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By *ust4funcoupleCouple
50 weeks ago

Moira

Still Bogman

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By *elfastDMan
50 weeks ago

belfast

It’s obviously me

(Until the next person)

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By *ewcouplesdCouple
50 weeks ago

near

Next please

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By *elanie de la CoeurTV/TS
50 weeks ago

Dublin

Ah heor

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By *ifewantstoplayCouple
50 weeks ago

somewhere

Oops wrong thread

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Come on now lads. Have ye no homes to go to?

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By *elfastDMan
50 weeks ago

belfast

You all obviously felt intimated by me being the last one and felt the need to bring me down a peg or two

I’m back on top, last where I belong lol

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick

... and i'm underneath

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin

Happy to be on top…..

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick

Anyone fancy a _inden sandwich?

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin

Beginning to look like a sandwich, I like sandwiches….

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By *elfastDMan
50 weeks ago

belfast

Now we’ve got a _inden sandwich

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin

PMSL, nice timing….

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By *elfastDMan
50 weeks ago

belfast

I think 3 of us all posted about sandwiches at the same time there

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By *Belfast_FellaMan
50 weeks ago

belfast

Are we there yet?

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago


"Are we there yet?"

Not yet!

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin

There’s a sandwich if anyone is peckish while waiting…..

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By *asual777 OP   Man
50 weeks ago

i travel all over

Starting to look very tanned and muscly

Just saying

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick

Can I be the filling?

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin


"Can I be the filling? "

Couldn’t think of anything better, the ham salad I had earlier seems pretty bland now…..

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By *elfastDMan
50 weeks ago

belfast


"Can I be the filling? "

Happy to be the bread

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

I can't believe it's taken 5 days to get halfway through, it doesn't reflect well on the sexiness of the Irish forum

Here to up the ante....

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary

It's ok I'm here now

Em x

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By *j47Man
50 weeks ago

limerick


"It's ok I'm here now

Em x"

Push over

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"It's ok I'm here now

Em x

Push over "

*Rugby tackles you out of the way*

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

I’ll sneak back in while you two are busy fighting

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By *elfastDMan
50 weeks ago

belfast

The sexiness of this thread has seriously improved (after CJ! )

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By *rad25irlMan
50 weeks ago

Carrigaline

I need to lower the bar here a little and give a shout-out to us guys with a sense of humour …. Which is way more sexy than a ripped body!! Right ladies?

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin

Calm down everyone, don’t make me get the wooden spoon out…..

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago


"Calm down everyone, don’t make me get the wooden spoon out….. "

Oh no, not the wooden spoon…

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"Calm down everyone, don’t make me get the wooden spoon out….. "

Please don't get out the wooden spoon...pushes CJ again for good measure

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By *j47Man
50 weeks ago

limerick


"Calm down everyone, don’t make me get the wooden spoon out…..

Please don't get out the wooden spoon...pushes CJ again for good measure "

Tis my hand on ur ass that will sting

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin

Unless “wooden spoon” is actually a euphemism…..

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"Unless “wooden spoon” is actually a euphemism….. "

I have no idea what you mean

Em x

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By *ich DesireMan
50 weeks ago

Ballon

Nevermind the wooden spoon, handcuffs and floggers are more fun

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin


"Unless “wooden spoon” is actually a euphemism…..

I have no idea what you mean

Em x"

I could explain but I don’t want to corrupt your innocent mind…..

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By *j47Man
50 weeks ago

limerick


"Unless “wooden spoon” is actually a euphemism…..

I have no idea what you mean

Em x

I could explain but I don’t want to corrupt your innocent mind….. "

Now theres a porkie if i ever heard one

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary

[Removed by poster at 21/07/23 16:55:58]

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"Unless “wooden spoon” is actually a euphemism…..

I have no idea what you mean

Em x

I could explain but I don’t want to corrupt your innocent mind….. "

How chivalrous of you

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"Unless “wooden spoon” is actually a euphemism…..

I have no idea what you mean

Em x

I could explain but I don’t want to corrupt your innocent mind…..

Now theres a porkie if i ever heard one "

I'm harmless

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By *elanie de la CoeurTV/TS
50 weeks ago

Dublin

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By *apri 555Man
50 weeks ago

wexford or Dublin

Its me

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan

A moment of fame can I be left to enjoy it for at least one minute

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By *reamersCouple
50 weeks ago

na

I'm here

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago


"I can't believe it's taken 5 days to get halfway through, it doesn't reflect well on the sexiness of the Irish forum

Here to up the ante...."

It keeps on rowing!!!

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By *elanie de la CoeurTV/TS
50 weeks ago

Dublin

C'est moi

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By *apri 555Man
50 weeks ago

wexford or Dublin

Im back

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin

Ah here, who's trying to steal my glory

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By *og-ManMan
50 weeks ago

somewhere


"Ah here, who's trying to steal my glory "

Not me

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin


"Ah here, who's trying to steal my glory

Not me "

You better not

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By *j47Man
50 weeks ago

limerick

Bump

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"Bump "

Excuse me there

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin

And grind…..

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By *j47Man
50 weeks ago

limerick


"And grind….. "

0i Oi

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By *apri 555Man
50 weeks ago

wexford or Dublin


"Ah here, who's trying to steal my glory "

Was it not you that stole mine ,,,

But im taking it back

For about 2 seconds id say

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By *ollypop9Woman
50 weeks ago

wouldn't you like to know

Bog, you left me lost in this thread, with some lad called coxie, for 3 days.

Thought you were my friend.

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By *og-ManMan
50 weeks ago

somewhere


"Bog, you left me lost in this thread, with some lad called coxie, for 3 days.

Thought you were my friend. "

As if you minded being stuck with him

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin


"Bog, you left me lost in this thread, with some lad called coxie, for 3 days.

Thought you were my friend. "

I rescued you, just remember that

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By *elanie de la CoeurTV/TS
50 weeks ago

Dublin

Time gentlemen please

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By *ollypop9Woman
50 weeks ago

wouldn't you like to know

Gentlemen you heard.

Leave us ladies to it ...

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin

At least we're one of each

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By *ollypop9Woman
50 weeks ago

wouldn't you like to know


"At least we're one of each "

If we remind everyone that we are German, they might just leave us to it, to fight this out. Lol

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin


"At least we're one of each

If we remind everyone that we are German, they might just leave us to it, to fight this out. Lol"

They'll just want to prove they're better than German engineering

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By *ollypop9Woman
50 weeks ago

wouldn't you like to know


"At least we're one of each

If we remind everyone that we are German, they might just leave us to it, to fight this out. Lol

They'll just want to prove they're better than German engineering "

Vorsprung durch Technik.

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By *Belfast_FellaMan
50 weeks ago

belfast

Is it still going?

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin


"At least we're one of each

If we remind everyone that we are German, they might just leave us to it, to fight this out. Lol

They'll just want to prove they're better than German engineering

Vorsprung durch Technik. "

Exactly

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin

What did I miss?

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By *og-ManMan
50 weeks ago

somewhere


"What did I miss?"

The Germans are trying to take over

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By *ollypop9Woman
50 weeks ago

wouldn't you like to know


"What did I miss?

The Germans are trying to take over "

Bog, you witnessed a German taking over before. You enjoyed the view...

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By *j47Man
50 weeks ago

limerick

Hello again

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By *og-ManMan
50 weeks ago

somewhere


"What did I miss?

The Germans are trying to take over

Bog, you witnessed a German taking over before. You enjoyed the view... "

Durty

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

I’ll just quietly sneak back in here

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

I'll never get to 175

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By *ewis1999Man
50 weeks ago

Hawarden

Beat ya

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin


"What did I miss?

The Germans are trying to take over "

What do you mean trying

I've already managed to infiltrate and dilute the Irish race

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"I’ll just quietly sneak back in here "

Ha ha quiet who are you trying to fool

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago


"I’ll just quietly sneak back in here

Ha ha quiet who are you trying to fool "

You forgot innocent

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"I’ll just quietly sneak back in here

Ha ha quiet who are you trying to fool

You forgot innocent "

I'm sure they have read your verification

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By *indenMan
50 weeks ago

naas which is South West of Dublin


"What did I miss?

The Germans are trying to take over

What do you mean trying

I've already managed to infiltrate and dilute the Irish race "

Ah leave him alone, he’s probably still traumatised from the last time, it was called the emergency back then…..

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary

Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin


"Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x "

Nope

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick


"Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x

Nope "

Neither will you

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin


"Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x

Nope

Neither will you "

I'm still here though

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick


"Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x

Nope

Neither will you

I'm still here though "

Oh no this could be a long night

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin


"Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x

Nope

Neither will you

I'm still here though

Oh no this could be a long night "

Looks like it

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By *mmmm300Woman
50 weeks ago

cork

New to the game, evening all

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x

Nope

Neither will you

I'm still here though "

Ehh no your not

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin


"Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x

Nope

Neither will you

I'm still here though

Ehh no your not"

Eh, helloooo

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x

Nope

Neither will you

I'm still here though

Ehh no your not

Eh, helloooo "

Can a guy not get a minute of fame

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By * la carteCouple
50 weeks ago

Dublin


"Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x

Nope

Neither will you

I'm still here though

Ehh no your not

Eh, helloooo

Can a guy not get a minute of fame "

You get a second

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By *apri 555Man
50 weeks ago

wexford or Dublin

Sneaking back in

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x

Nope

Neither will you

I'm still here though

Ehh no your not

Eh, helloooo

Can a guy not get a minute of fame

You get a second "

I'm not one to give up easily and I normally get what I want

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago


"Will I manage to stay here uninterrupted for the night?

Em x

Nope

Neither will you

I'm still here though

Ehh no your not

Eh, helloooo

Can a guy not get a minute of fame

You get a second

I'm not one to give up easily and I normally get what I want "

You better get the matches for your eyes you don’t know what your messing with

Just when you think you have it she slips in

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

150

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"150 "

Are you in bed yet

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


""

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"

"

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"

"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly "

I'm rolling up my sleeves as we speak

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly

I'm rolling up my sleeves as we speak"

Well in taking my shirt off to start with your move next

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


""

Just because your on my hotlist doesn't mean you can just jump in unannounced

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly

I'm rolling up my sleeves as we speak

Well in taking my shirt off to start with your move next "

Dress yourself man

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly

I'm rolling up my sleeves as we speak

Well in taking my shirt off to start with your move next

Dress yourself man "

I was hoping you wouldn't put up a fight

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly

I'm rolling up my sleeves as we speak

Well in taking my shirt off to start with your move next

Dress yourself man

I was hoping you wouldn't put up a fight "

What kind of woman do you take me for,in shocked

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly

I'm rolling up my sleeves as we speak

Well in taking my shirt off to start with your move next

Dress yourself man

I was hoping you wouldn't put up a fight

What kind of woman do you take me for,in shocked "

I've no idea what you're referring to

I just want to get to where I belong

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly

I'm rolling up my sleeves as we speak

Well in taking my shirt off to start with your move next

Dress yourself man

I was hoping you wouldn't put up a fight

What kind of woman do you take me for,in shocked

I've no idea what you're referring to

I just want to get to where I belong "

Yes in second place

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago


"150

Are you in bed yet "

Stealth

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Oh Mel are you here I know you are

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly

I'm rolling up my sleeves as we speak

Well in taking my shirt off to start with your move next

Dress yourself man

I was hoping you wouldn't put up a fight

What kind of woman do you take me for,in shocked

I've no idea what you're referring to

I just want to get to where I belong

Yes in second place "

It never happening

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly

I'm rolling up my sleeves as we speak

Well in taking my shirt off to start with your move next

Dress yourself man

I was hoping you wouldn't put up a fight

What kind of woman do you take me for,in shocked

I've no idea what you're referring to

I just want to get to where I belong

Yes in second place

It never happening "

Watch me go

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago


""

Here we go limerick abú

Just not tonight

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By *lue eyesMan
50 weeks ago

cavan


"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly

I'm rolling up my sleeves as we speak

Well in taking my shirt off to start with your move next

Dress yourself man

I was hoping you wouldn't put up a fight

What kind of woman do you take me for,in shocked

I've no idea what you're referring to

I just want to get to where I belong

Yes in second place

It never happening

Watch me go "

You haven't worked out the moves yet

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary


"

I'm not going anywhere quickly and definitely not quietly

I'm rolling up my sleeves as we speak

Well in taking my shirt off to start with your move next

Dress yourself man

I was hoping you wouldn't put up a fight

What kind of woman do you take me for,in shocked

I've no idea what you're referring to

I just want to get to where I belong

Yes in second place

It never happening

Watch me go

You haven't worked out the moves yet "

Not have you worked out mine

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

We have

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Well

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick

Helloooooo

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By *educing_EmCouple
50 weeks ago

Tipperary

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By *ofusplusCouple
50 weeks ago

Limerick

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By *og-ManMan
50 weeks ago

somewhere

So we're doing this again

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By *ofusplusCouple
49 weeks ago

Limerick

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By *og-ManMan
49 weeks ago

somewhere

Not at all one trophy is enough for you guys

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By *ofusplusCouple
34 weeks ago

Limerick

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