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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Imagine paying 250k to go look at a shipwreck 4 miles down only to never return again, 2 billionaires on board almost certainly dead now, even that amount of money can't save them, rip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately they have zero chance of Rescue by an outside source.

Nothing of this magnitude has ever been attempted before. Unless those onboard are capable of an emergency ascent I feel this is not going to end well.

Irespective of billionaire's or not, they are human being's.

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By *huCullainMan
over a year ago

Rathowen

I hear the guy that wrote 13 days is writing a script to be directed by James Cameron. I reckon it'll go down well

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By *ilderMan
over a year ago

dublin

I read that they were welded into the submersible in order to make it airtight and so even if it raises they still can't help themselves and are reliant on being rescued

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They were bolted in , amounts to the same I know. They had a case last year where the submersible got lost, lost all contact and took the mother ship three hours to find them bobbing on the surface. It's totally dependent on the mother ship for navigation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Horrific. I can't begin to imagine that kind of end. Don't care how rich they are or how ill-advised the trip they undertook

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By *hett and scarlettCouple
over a year ago

Dublin

The moment they made diving on the Titanic a commercial tourist venture, it was always going to increase the potential for accidents on an already difficult process. No margin for error and if it has disconnected from the control ship then they are done. 90 hours of air is a nice margin under circumstances, but they probably (ironically) die of hyperthermia before they die of suffocation.

All this aside from the fact that tourist diving is also accelerating the deterioration of the wreck conditions so questionable they should have been allowed to dive on it in the first place (as a recognised maritime grave site and from a perseveration perspective).

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"They were bolted in , amounts to the same I know. They had a case last year where the submersible got lost, lost all contact and took the mother ship three hours to find them bobbing on the surface. It's totally dependent on the mother ship for navigation."

Yes bolted in from the outside so even if they are at the surface they can't get out unless somebody on the outside is there to help, a few theories are emerging like they might have gotten entangled in something and got stuck or they lost pressure on the way down, if it's the latter they would have dies in 10 seconds anyway clock is ticking here's hoping for a miracle

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

I can't understand why there's no some sort of tracker to locate the thing. A blackbox of a plane can be tracked up to 6km deep water.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They were bolted in , amounts to the same I know. They had a case last year where the submersible got lost, lost all contact and took the mother ship three hours to find them bobbing on the surface. It's totally dependent on the mother ship for navigation.

Yes bolted in from the outside so even if they are at the surface they can't get out unless somebody on the outside is there to help, a few theories are emerging like they might have gotten entangled in something and got stuck or they lost pressure on the way down, if it's the latter they would have dies in 10 seconds anyway clock is ticking here's hoping for a miracle "

Personally, for their sake , I hope it imploded. Be very quick death. Better than sitting there in the freezing cold pitch black for days waiting and knowing you're going to die.

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By *ublinoM45Man
over a year ago

South Dublin

Yet 100s of asylum seekers died in the Med last week and made less news.

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By *omtom7Man
over a year ago

Tralee


"I hear the guy that wrote 13 days is writing a script to be directed by James Cameron. I reckon it'll go down well "

Too soon man. Too soon

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By *ofistimacatedMan
over a year ago

cavan town


"I can't understand why there's no some sort of tracker to locate the thing. A blackbox of a plane can be tracked up to 6km deep water. "

This was the first thing I thought. And surely the first thing the engineers should have thought

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere


"Yet 100s of asylum seekers died in the Med last week and made less news. "

This

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By *ofistimacatedMan
over a year ago

cavan town


"Yet 100s of asylum seekers died in the Med last week and made less news.

This "

Did it though? I don't listen to the news any more, if I can help it. Just on the radio if I happen to have it on and it seemed to be quite prominent to me over the last week or so. But maybe in comparison, I definitely can stand corrected

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By *ursecretmischiefCouple
over a year ago

The West

Unless they've surfaced and are bobbing around in the ocean they've about two more days before they're dead.

Finding them on the ocean floor would nearly be worse, because there is little to nothing anyone can do.

When I heard the story I had hope, then when I saw the craft, I realised there is none!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if asylum seekers die on their way to a better life it should be reported more?

What about when they actually make it ?? the abuse these people get when they actually get to land

What about our own how are they (asylum seekers)getting all the houses etc ah sure

I’m off to a bed lucky am I

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere


"Yet 100s of asylum seekers died in the Med last week and made less news.

This

Did it though? I don't listen to the news any more, if I can help it. Just on the radio if I happen to have it on and it seemed to be quite prominent to me over the last week or so. But maybe in comparison, I definitely can stand corrected"

America,Canada and France rushing to help these few people which is only right

Last week a few hundred people were allow drown while ships did nothing to help until it was too late

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yet 100s of asylum seekers died in the Med last week and made less news.

This

Did it though? I don't listen to the news any more, if I can help it. Just on the radio if I happen to have it on and it seemed to be quite prominent to me over the last week or so. But maybe in comparison, I definitely can stand corrected

America,Canada and France rushing to help these few people which is only right

Last week a few hundred people were allow drown while ships did nothing to help until it was too late "

That's the question is the life of a billionaire worth more than the life of an asylum seeker who only has the clothes on his back and we all know what the answer is

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By *arleybird66Man
over a year ago

wexford

for those asking seeminly there was a tracker on the sub it gave out a ping of its last location just before it went missing and nothing since so theories now is its either tangled in the titanic or lost all power other problems is theres so much metal wreckage there from titanic and soft mud but also undersea currents could of moved it miles away or as someone also said may of imploded

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

What fascinated me was the expert on ocean rescues on the radio yesterday who said that if you even took a 100m radius from the position of the titanic, it would take weeks or months to thoroughly search it, due to the fact that it's almost 4km down, with poor visibility, and specialist equipment needed.

Noises, seemingly banging, have apparently been picked up under the sea in the last few hours. They've moved the search area as a result.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A rich man's folly. Now regular folks lives in peril because of these blurts. Saying that what a horrible way to die

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By *llthewaysMan
over a year ago

City centre/Naas

The idea of being four miles down is horrific, either underwater or underground. I don't understand the attraction to do it.

Paying the equivalent of buying a house for the trip boggles the mind.

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By *oxyvixen99Woman
over a year ago

Newtownabbey

Horrendous way to die regardless who what where and how

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"The idea of being four miles down is horrific, either underwater or underground. I don't understand the attraction to do it.

Paying the equivalent of buying a house for the trip boggles the mind."

Not that it makes much difference either way but it's 2.36 miles down, not 4 miles.

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By *llthewaysMan
over a year ago

City centre/Naas


"The idea of being four miles down is horrific, either underwater or underground. I don't understand the attraction to do it.

Paying the equivalent of buying a house for the trip boggles the mind.

Not that it makes much difference either way but it's 2.36 miles down, not 4 miles. "

I should have done my own research,l and not just taken it from the thread haha

But yeah the 1.64 miles won't change my thoughts on it.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"The idea of being four miles down is horrific, either underwater or underground. I don't understand the attraction to do it.

Paying the equivalent of buying a house for the trip boggles the mind.

Not that it makes much difference either way but it's 2.36 miles down, not 4 miles.

I should have done my own research,l and not just taken it from the thread haha

But yeah the 1.64 miles won't change my thoughts on it."

It's still a seriously long way down and the chances of getting another craft to get down there in time is pretty much non existent by the looks of it.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

They'll be found and survive then write a book

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"They'll be found and survive then write a book "

I'd read it.

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By *leasurer77Man
over a year ago

Athlone

Only a matter of time before the number of people who died on the Titanic is surpassed by the number either searching for or viewing it.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"Only a matter of time before the number of people who died on the Titanic is surpassed by the number either searching for or viewing it."

There's a long long way to go yet.

I think the current theory, based on how much it's deteriorated since it was found, is that it'll have fallen apart completely over time next few decades.

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By *anillagreenMan
over a year ago

Strabane


"I can't understand why there's no some sort of tracker to locate the thing. A blackbox of a plane can be tracked up to 6km deep water. "

Exactly what I was saying, iam obviously no expert but you'd automatically assume that the sub would have a tracker on it of some sort, apparently it was connected to Elon tusks satellites of some sort.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can't understand why there's no some sort of tracker to locate the thing. A blackbox of a plane can be tracked up to 6km deep water.

Exactly what I was saying, iam obviously no expert but you'd automatically assume that the sub would have a tracker on it of some sort, apparently it was connected to Elon tusks satellites of some sort."

Probably only get 2g that deep. Not enough to check your fab messages

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"I can't understand why there's no some sort of tracker to locate the thing. A blackbox of a plane can be tracked up to 6km deep water.

Exactly what I was saying, iam obviously no expert but you'd automatically assume that the sub would have a tracker on it of some sort, apparently it was connected to Elon tusks satellites of some sort."

sona radar it bounces off they have a rough idea where it is now it's getting something to pull it up like a winch and maybe another sub given the depth may find more hidden treasures or bones of those who jumped overboard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Titanic and its lost souls should be left in peace in my humble opinion.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

The law in itself goes on about that it's a criminal offence to disturb the dead yet they keep doing it Egypt for one now this

If their not found would it stop folk going down nope but even if found still wouldn't after seeing the dangers shocking is all I can think

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"The law in itself goes on about that it's a criminal offence to disturb the dead yet they keep doing it Egypt for one now this

If their not found would it stop folk going down nope but even if found still wouldn't after seeing the dangers shocking is all I can think "

George Mallory, who died on Mt Everest in the 1920s, was asked why he was so determined to climb out. His answer was "because it is there".

I suspect going down to the Titanic would be the same for those who can afford it and are prepared to take the risk.

Going down and looking at it isn't exactly disturbing the dead. I accept the point about Egypt but I'm of two minds as I appreciate the knowledge we've gained by such explorations. I'm also very much of the belief that when you're dead, you're dead.

I do recall hearing someone ask...

"Do you know why the Pyramids aren't in England?" Because the British museum couldn't find a boat big enough for them"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So pieces of debris have been found scattered near the titanic wreck indicating an implosion, all are brown bread I'm afraid

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"So pieces of debris have been found scattered near the titanic wreck indicating an implosion, all are brown bread I'm afraid "
hopefully it was quick for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is there a place for billionaires that no one knows of if you go missing

Just asking rip if they are gone

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home


"So pieces of debris have been found scattered near the titanic wreck indicating an implosion, all are brown bread I'm afraid hopefully it was quick for them. "
milliseconds

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"The law in itself goes on about that it's a criminal offence to disturb the dead yet they keep doing it Egypt for one now this

If their not found would it stop folk going down nope but even if found still wouldn't after seeing the dangers shocking is all I can think

George Mallory, who died on Mt Everest in the 1920s, was asked why he was so determined to climb out. His answer was "because it is there".

I suspect going down to the Titanic would be the same for those who can afford it and are prepared to take the risk.

Going down and looking at it isn't exactly disturbing the dead. I accept the point about Egypt but I'm of two minds as I appreciate the knowledge we've gained by such explorations. I'm also very much of the belief that when you're dead, you're dead.

I do recall hearing someone ask...

"Do you know why the Pyramids aren't in England?" Because the British museum couldn't find a boat big enough for them"

"

Yes but this is under water technically a grave yard and in past things taken from it and Egypt was also a grave exploring doesn't need to involve taking belongings just pictures and videos but when is the limit hopefully it's a valuable lesson learned from what has happened some things you just leave alone and let the dead rest....

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

It's just bragging rights and no respect for the dead

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"The law in itself goes on about that it's a criminal offence to disturb the dead yet they keep doing it Egypt for one now this

If their not found would it stop folk going down nope but even if found still wouldn't after seeing the dangers shocking is all I can think

George Mallory, who died on Mt Everest in the 1920s, was asked why he was so determined to climb out. His answer was "because it is there".

I suspect going down to the Titanic would be the same for those who can afford it and are prepared to take the risk.

Going down and looking at it isn't exactly disturbing the dead. I accept the point about Egypt but I'm of two minds as I appreciate the knowledge we've gained by such explorations. I'm also very much of the belief that when you're dead, you're dead.

I do recall hearing someone ask...

"Do you know why the Pyramids aren't in England?" Because the British museum couldn't find a boat big enough for them"

Yes but this is under water technically a grave yard and in past things taken from it and Egypt was also a grave exploring doesn't need to involve taking belongings just pictures and videos but when is the limit hopefully it's a valuable lesson learned from what has happened some things you just leave alone and let the dead rest...."

Yes, we probably shouldn't even clean up after fatal accidents, just let the dead rest.

I'm afraid I believe that dead people are dead, and don't have any sort of consciousness.

I don't imagine these lads were intending to bring up dead bodies from the Titanic anyway, and the chances of there being any bones at all down there are extremely remote.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"The law in itself goes on about that it's a criminal offence to disturb the dead yet they keep doing it Egypt for one now this

If their not found would it stop folk going down nope but even if found still wouldn't after seeing the dangers shocking is all I can think

George Mallory, who died on Mt Everest in the 1920s, was asked why he was so determined to climb out. His answer was "because it is there".

I suspect going down to the Titanic would be the same for those who can afford it and are prepared to take the risk.

Going down and looking at it isn't exactly disturbing the dead. I accept the point about Egypt but I'm of two minds as I appreciate the knowledge we've gained by such explorations. I'm also very much of the belief that when you're dead, you're dead.

I do recall hearing someone ask...

"Do you know why the Pyramids aren't in England?" Because the British museum couldn't find a boat big enough for them"

Yes but this is under water technically a grave yard and in past things taken from it and Egypt was also a grave exploring doesn't need to involve taking belongings just pictures and videos but when is the limit hopefully it's a valuable lesson learned from what has happened some things you just leave alone and let the dead rest....

Yes, we probably shouldn't even clean up after fatal accidents, just let the dead rest.

I'm afraid I believe that dead people are dead, and don't have any sort of consciousness.

I don't imagine these lads were intending to bring up dead bodies from the Titanic anyway, and the chances of there being any bones at all down there are extremely remote.

"

It's a resting place did people Go around the twin towers collecting memento a piece of the buildings besides those doing the investigation people who do deserve the consequences

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"The law in itself goes on about that it's a criminal offence to disturb the dead yet they keep doing it Egypt for one now this

If their not found would it stop folk going down nope but even if found still wouldn't after seeing the dangers shocking is all I can think

George Mallory, who died on Mt Everest in the 1920s, was asked why he was so determined to climb out. His answer was "because it is there".

I suspect going down to the Titanic would be the same for those who can afford it and are prepared to take the risk.

Going down and looking at it isn't exactly disturbing the dead. I accept the point about Egypt but I'm of two minds as I appreciate the knowledge we've gained by such explorations. I'm also very much of the belief that when you're dead, you're dead.

I do recall hearing someone ask...

"Do you know why the Pyramids aren't in England?" Because the British museum couldn't find a boat big enough for them"

Yes but this is under water technically a grave yard and in past things taken from it and Egypt was also a grave exploring doesn't need to involve taking belongings just pictures and videos but when is the limit hopefully it's a valuable lesson learned from what has happened some things you just leave alone and let the dead rest....

Yes, we probably shouldn't even clean up after fatal accidents, just let the dead rest.

I'm afraid I believe that dead people are dead, and don't have any sort of consciousness.

I don't imagine these lads were intending to bring up dead bodies from the Titanic anyway, and the chances of there being any bones at all down there are extremely remote.

"

You've twisted things here their is a huge difference

Yes, we probably shouldn't even clean up after fatal accidents, just let the dead rest.

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