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"How do you equate what someone chooses to wear and not having respect for themselves? There's a fine line being drawn there with that opinion. " You think having half your arse out walking around town don’t show a lack of self respect? I’d be the opposite. I don’t have kids myself, but if I did I wouldn’t like them dressed like it. Me, myself like most red blooded males can’t help but look, but truthfully I feel bad for them and understand it’s probably the norm now with this generation and all social media trends etc | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in " It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities | |||
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"How do you equate what someone chooses to wear and not having respect for themselves? There's a fine line being drawn there with that opinion. You think having half your arse out walking around town don’t show a lack of self respect? I’d be the opposite. I don’t have kids myself, but if I did I wouldn’t like them dressed like it. Me, myself like most red blooded males can’t help but look, but truthfully I feel bad for them and understand it’s probably the norm now with this generation and all social media trends etc" I think it shows a degree of confidence rather than lack of respect. I'm the father of 3 grown daughters and I've never once told them what to wear or not wear. The issue is always with others and not the person wearing the short shorts. | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. " Come off of it Michael I don’t, nor did try and dictate what others are wearing. I’m asking peoples opinion. If you want to wear a mankini doing your shopping, work away, I wouldn’t stop you but I wouldn’t do it myself | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities " You're on one thread giving out about what some women wear Youre on another thread saying the women in the Irish photos are hot I merely mention the other 3 countries because of the way women are treated in those countries by men Again.....just my opinion | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities " You've just said that girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects you, and you're saying his comment is stupid? Jesus | |||
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"How do you equate what someone chooses to wear and not having respect for themselves? There's a fine line being drawn there with that opinion. You think having half your arse out walking around town don’t show a lack of self respect? I’d be the opposite. I don’t have kids myself, but if I did I wouldn’t like them dressed like it. Me, myself like most red blooded males can’t help but look, but truthfully I feel bad for them and understand it’s probably the norm now with this generation and all social media trends etc" What about an older woman showing a bit of cleavage? Is that disrespectful too or should she catch herself on at her age? | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities You've just said that girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects you, and you're saying his comment is stupid? Jesus " Can you point out in any of my comments where I have said “girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects me”? | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities You're on one thread giving out about what some women wear Youre on another thread saying the women in the Irish photos are hot I merely mention the other 3 countries because of the way women are treated in those countries by men Again.....just my opinion " Have you missed the part in my first post where I said “(I’m not complaining)” | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities You've just said that girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects you, and you're saying his comment is stupid? Jesus Can you point out in any of my comments where I have said “girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects me”? " Red blooded males staring. | |||
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"Thankfully they can wear what they damn well like and good luck to them, I hope it makes them happy " 100% they can and I would be delighted for someone if that’s what makes them happy | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. Come off of it Michael I don’t, nor did try and dictate what others are wearing. I’m asking peoples opinion. If you want to wear a mankini doing your shopping, work away, I wouldn’t stop you but I wouldn’t do it myself " Well now, you said, and I quote.. "I genuinely fear for the future. It seems like a lot don’t have respect for themselves so definitely won’t have for others" That sounds to me like you don't want them to dress that way? Also, you equating dress sense and style with character traits would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. I could understand it if you were in your 70s perhaps, as you'd have grown up with that nonsense. For someone of your age to be going round with such antiquated notions in your head is bizarre. | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities You've just said that girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects you, and you're saying his comment is stupid? Jesus Can you point out in any of my comments where I have said “girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects me”? Red blooded males staring. " Clothes choice ain’t the only reason. Has a hot fully clothed girl never caught your attention? Or do you wear the blinkers all the time? | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities " I think it's up to each individual to decide what's appropriate clothing to wear. And you are right no need to involve other countries when we have plenty of people here like you . | |||
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"Op you say you're not complaining and then write this I wouldn’t class myself as an old boring fart, but I genuinely fear for the future. It seems like a lot don’t have respect for themselves so definitely won’t have for others" And how is talking about self respect and respect for others complaining? “Fear for the future” aka worry, is a lot different than complaing | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. Come off of it Michael I don’t, nor did try and dictate what others are wearing. I’m asking peoples opinion. If you want to wear a mankini doing your shopping, work away, I wouldn’t stop you but I wouldn’t do it myself Well now, you said, and I quote.. "I genuinely fear for the future. It seems like a lot don’t have respect for themselves so definitely won’t have for others" That sounds to me like you don't want them to dress that way? Also, you equating dress sense and style with character traits would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. I could understand it if you were in your 70s perhaps, as you'd have grown up with that nonsense. For someone of your age to be going round with such antiquated notions in your head is bizarre. " No Michael, that to me sounds more like I’m worried about what else comes along with no respect, nothing to do with the way I think they should or shouldn’t dress | |||
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"I know this might be hard to understand for men who think like you do, but women don’t wear clothes for your pleasure. They wear what they want to wear and feel comfortable in. It is very easy to look away if you are repulsed by what you see. Women definitely don’t give a shit about your opinion on their clothing " But yet the same women wouldn’t wear the same choice of clothes to go visit their grandparents, go to mass, a funeral etc? And why is this? Out of respect maybe? Who knows | |||
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"OP, No Michael, that to me sounds more like I’m worried about what else comes along with no respect, nothing to do with the way I think they should or shouldn’t dress" Maybe you should explain to us what exactly comes along with wearing clothes you don't approve of? Because your looking, and apparently you can't help it, and you are also critical of them and worried for the future. Thats quite the conflict you have going on there. | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities You've just said that girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects you, and you're saying his comment is stupid? Jesus Can you point out in any of my comments where I have said “girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects me”? Red blooded males staring. Clothes choice ain’t the only reason. Has a hot fully clothed girl never caught your attention? Or do you wear the blinkers all the time?" I'm not the one starting threads about it. I can appreciate a well dressed woman but I don't accuse her of having no respect for herself or others based on what she is wearing. If she opens her gob and says something disrespectful that's different. | |||
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"I appreciate the comments and I can also understand some of the throat grabbing. Still don’t comprehend some of the thinking behind some comments. People attend funerals, weddings, christenings etc in warm weather and don’t wear this type of clothing for what reason? Is it out of respect? To keep with the norm? " Because on those occasions that's exactly what they choose to wear just like people wear a suit to work and shirts and t-shirts at home or out for the day. Do you have the same opinion about middle aged men in lycra or is it just women of a particular age group you are talking about? | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities You've just said that girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects you, and you're saying his comment is stupid? Jesus Can you point out in any of my comments where I have said “girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects me”? Red blooded males staring. Clothes choice ain’t the only reason. Has a hot fully clothed girl never caught your attention? Or do you wear the blinkers all the time? I'm not the one starting threads about it. I can appreciate a well dressed woman but I don't accuse her of having no respect for herself or others based on what she is wearing. If she opens her gob and says something disrespectful that's different." Well thankfully not everyone is like you so or the forums would be a quiet place. I started the thread to get others opinions. Also to see if it was the same years ago, yet no one has answered that part yet, yourself included | |||
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"I appreciate the comments and I can also understand some of the throat grabbing. Still don’t comprehend some of the thinking behind some comments. People attend funerals, weddings, christenings etc in warm weather and don’t wear this type of clothing for what reason? Is it out of respect? To keep with the norm? Because on those occasions that's exactly what they choose to wear just like people wear a suit to work and shirts and t-shirts at home or out for the day. Do you have the same opinion about middle aged men in lycra or is it just women of a particular age group you are talking about?" But they choose to wear it as it’s the norm and considered to be shown as a mark or respect. I’ve yet to see someone attend a funeral in a black skin tight pair of short shorts and I would have thought it’s because it would be seeing as disrespectful? That’s only my opinion, yours might be different and I’ve no problem with that | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities You've just said that girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects you, and you're saying his comment is stupid? Jesus Can you point out in any of my comments where I have said “girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects me”? Red blooded males staring. Clothes choice ain’t the only reason. Has a hot fully clothed girl never caught your attention? Or do you wear the blinkers all the time? I'm not the one starting threads about it. I can appreciate a well dressed woman but I don't accuse her of having no respect for herself or others based on what she is wearing. If she opens her gob and says something disrespectful that's different. Well thankfully not everyone is like you so or the forums would be a quiet place. I started the thread to get others opinions. Also to see if it was the same years ago, yet no one has answered that part yet, yourself included" If what was the same years ago? Men have always told women they should have more respect for themselves so yes it hasn't changed at all. I'm delighted to say that the vast majority on the forum have similar opinions and reactions to mine where things like this are concerned. Are you seriously trying to say that everyone on fab who likes to perve on others have the right to pass judgement based on dress sense? | |||
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"Are you driving around in Saudi Arabia ,Afghanistan or Iran with that attitude towards women you'll fit well in It’s nothing like that, and definitely nothing against girls. They can wear nothing for all I care if that’s what they want to do. Each to their own, I’m merely stating my opinion and asking others for theirs. Your comment is stupid, and no need to involve other countries or nationalities You've just said that girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects you, and you're saying his comment is stupid? Jesus Can you point out in any of my comments where I have said “girls should be thinking about how their clothing affects me”? Red blooded males staring. Clothes choice ain’t the only reason. Has a hot fully clothed girl never caught your attention? Or do you wear the blinkers all the time? I'm not the one starting threads about it. I can appreciate a well dressed woman but I don't accuse her of having no respect for herself or others based on what she is wearing. If she opens her gob and says something disrespectful that's different. Well thankfully not everyone is like you so or the forums would be a quiet place. I started the thread to get others opinions. Also to see if it was the same years ago, yet no one has answered that part yet, yourself included If what was the same years ago? Men have always told women they should have more respect for themselves so yes it hasn't changed at all. I'm delighted to say that the vast majority on the forum have similar opinions and reactions to mine where things like this are concerned. Are you seriously trying to say that everyone on fab who likes to perve on others have the right to pass judgement based on dress sense?" If the same type clothing was worn. “To pass judgement” is deeper than to have an opinion | |||
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"Comparing street fashion to formal wear is ludicrous and makes no sense at all. On the one hand you say they have no respect for themselves and on the other hand you say people don't dress like that at formal events out of respect for others. What is your point exactly? There's no relationship between those things. You're all over the place OP You wanted opinions and you got them. " I am a bit to be honest. But I’m sure ye get my drift. I don’t mind what people wear and I’d agree with being this way and screw what others think. Do you and be happy is what’s most important but I still fear for what’s going to be seeing as acceptable in years to come. I’d suppose it’s more so this and the trend of different clothing from years ago is what I’m more so getting at. Fast forward another 20/30 year time & people won’t bat an eyelid when the person beside them doing their grocery shopping is in her/his/them birthday suit | |||
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"I appreciate the comments and I can also understand some of the throat grabbing. Still don’t comprehend some of the thinking behind some comments. People attend funerals, weddings, christenings etc in warm weather and don’t wear this type of clothing for what reason? Is it out of respect? To keep with the norm? Because on those occasions that's exactly what they choose to wear just like people wear a suit to work and shirts and t-shirts at home or out for the day. Do you have the same opinion about middle aged men in lycra or is it just women of a particular age group you are talking about? But they choose to wear it as it’s the norm and considered to be shown as a mark or respect. I’ve yet to see someone attend a funeral in a black skin tight pair of short shorts and I would have thought it’s because it would be seeing as disrespectful? That’s only my opinion, yours might be different and I’ve no problem with that" I was a pallbearer at a funeral recently and one of the other mem wore a pink jacket and shirt. Was that disrespectful or just his personal style? | |||
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"Also OP, you have your cock out in front of an entire website. Just sayin." Well spotted, I do. I don’t when I’m down the shops getting a loaf of bread though. I might try that, although I’d probably be arrested for indecent exposure. Might have my arse out, no one will mind then will they? | |||
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"I appreciate the comments and I can also understand some of the throat grabbing. Still don’t comprehend some of the thinking behind some comments. People attend funerals, weddings, christenings etc in warm weather and don’t wear this type of clothing for what reason? Is it out of respect? To keep with the norm? Because on those occasions that's exactly what they choose to wear just like people wear a suit to work and shirts and t-shirts at home or out for the day. Do you have the same opinion about middle aged men in lycra or is it just women of a particular age group you are talking about? But they choose to wear it as it’s the norm and considered to be shown as a mark or respect. I’ve yet to see someone attend a funeral in a black skin tight pair of short shorts and I would have thought it’s because it would be seeing as disrespectful? That’s only my opinion, yours might be different and I’ve no problem with that I was a pallbearer at a funeral recently and one of the other mem wore a pink jacket and shirt. Was that disrespectful or just his personal style? " Balls in or out? | |||
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"It’s ok to have half your aRae out in shorts, wonder if I let my two dangly lads out will this be ok? Or should not for the fear of it being indecent exposure? What’s people’s thoughts on this? " Well one would be indecent exposure and the other would be fashion. | |||
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"It’s ok to have half your aRae out in shorts, wonder if I let my two dangly lads out will this be ok? Or should not for the fear of it being indecent exposure? What’s people’s thoughts on this? " Are you saying saying now this is how short the women are wearing their shorts because you know what you are trying to imply now and a what you said in your opening post are two entirely different things. And in answer to your question OP yes times have changed thank god. Years ago women wore scarves when out in public and also had to keep dresses below their knees and wear horrible tights so their skin wasn't exposed to shock the poor red blooded men. Men wore shirts and jackets even in summer. People had to stay in abusive marriages. There was almost no sex outside marriage and any woman who was known to do it was shunned and well we won't get into what happened if they got pregnant. And a woman and men who was sexually assaulted well that was just hidden away and not spoken about. There have been a lot of changes and the majority of it for the better. | |||
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"When I was that age all the girls wore was loose O’Neills tracksuit bottoms…." You obviously just hung out with the wrong crowd I always froze my arse off in sympathy with the partying girls/women wearing practically nothing in the middle of winter while I was layered up | |||
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"It’s ok to have half your aRae out in shorts, wonder if I let my two dangly lads out will this be ok? Or should not for the fear of it being indecent exposure? What’s people’s thoughts on this? Are you saying saying now this is how short the women are wearing their shorts because you know what you are trying to imply now and a what you said in your opening post are two entirely different things. And in answer to your question OP yes times have changed thank god. Years ago women wore scarves when out in public and also had to keep dresses below their knees and wear horrible tights so their skin wasn't exposed to shock the poor red blooded men. Men wore shirts and jackets even in summer. People had to stay in abusive marriages. There was almost no sex outside marriage and any woman who was known to do it was shunned and well we won't get into what happened if they got pregnant. And a woman and men who was sexually assaulted well that was just hidden away and not spoken about. There have been a lot of changes and the majority of it for the better. " Applause for your post. Any age any gender can wear whatever they like nowadays fortunately. For too long people were oppressed by politics clergy and domineering men and women. I for one hope the sun keeps shining. | |||
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"It’s ok to have half your aRae out in shorts, wonder if I let my two dangly lads out will this be ok? Or should not for the fear of it being indecent exposure? What’s people’s thoughts on this? Are you saying saying now this is how short the women are wearing their shorts because you know what you are trying to imply now and a what you said in your opening post are two entirely different things. And in answer to your question OP yes times have changed thank god. Years ago women wore scarves when out in public and also had to keep dresses below their knees and wear horrible tights so their skin wasn't exposed to shock the poor red blooded men. Men wore shirts and jackets even in summer. People had to stay in abusive marriages. There was almost no sex outside marriage and any woman who was known to do it was shunned and well we won't get into what happened if they got pregnant. And a woman and men who was sexually assaulted well that was just hidden away and not spoken about. There have been a lot of changes and the majority of it for the better. " Yes, this is the length shorts I’m talking about. And I also know my last few comments are different from what I started the post with, but it begs the question from some of the responses - why if men were doing something similar, is it so much different. Don’t get me wrong, I love the boobs and ass on display in the skimpy clothes and I understand that it can be a show of someone being “confident” and comfortable to wear it but if the thread was about guys having tight shorts and their bulge showing and maybe half a nut here or there it wouldn’t be classed as us being confident, it would be more on the lines of vile and indecent exposure | |||
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"It’s ok to have half your aRae out in shorts, wonder if I let my two dangly lads out will this be ok? Or should not for the fear of it being indecent exposure? What’s people’s thoughts on this? Are you saying saying now this is how short the women are wearing their shorts because you know what you are trying to imply now and a what you said in your opening post are two entirely different things. And in answer to your question OP yes times have changed thank god. Years ago women wore scarves when out in public and also had to keep dresses below their knees and wear horrible tights so their skin wasn't exposed to shock the poor red blooded men. Men wore shirts and jackets even in summer. People had to stay in abusive marriages. There was almost no sex outside marriage and any woman who was known to do it was shunned and well we won't get into what happened if they got pregnant. And a woman and men who was sexually assaulted well that was just hidden away and not spoken about. There have been a lot of changes and the majority of it for the better. Yes, this is the length shorts I’m talking about. And I also know my last few comments are different from what I started the post with, but it begs the question from some of the responses - why if men were doing something similar, is it so much different. Don’t get me wrong, I love the boobs and ass on display in the skimpy clothes and I understand that it can be a show of someone being “confident” and comfortable to wear it but if the thread was about guys having tight shorts and their bulge showing and maybe half a nut here or there it wouldn’t be classed as us being confident, it would be more on the lines of vile and indecent exposure" Sorry Bo for not replying to your 2nd part. And fair play for summing it up so well in short. I’d agree with the ways things happened years ago were wrong and it’s shocking to hear of the troubles people had to endure. I’m sure there’s still some of it happening and thankfully not near as much as we move with the times and long May it last. I’m just wondering if there’s parts that are changing to far or not and was wanting to see if others thought it might be or not but judging from the replies I don’t think so | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. " In fairness, Michael, it is unfortunate that there are exactly those predators out there who genuinely believe that girls/women dressed a certain way are "asking for it". Maybe there's an element of that worry in the Ops post. I'm all for freedom of expression where fashion is concerned... My daughter went through a goth kind of phase wear she wanted to wear dog collars, the shortest of skirts/shorts with fishnet stockings and heels at the age of 13. I allowed and even encouraged this - as long as she was in my or her father's company because there's no way in hell I would have let her loose like that in town on her own - because of the fear of her encouraging those predators!!! As a parent, I believe that everyone needs to make their youngsters aware of these dangers and the, in my opinion, increased potential of being harassed and more - simply by how you dress - because dressing a certain way certainly does attract more attention - unfortunately this attention can have devastating consequences. | |||
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"Comparing street fashion to formal wear is ludicrous and makes no sense at all. On the one hand you say they have no respect for themselves and on the other hand you say people don't dress like that at formal events out of respect for others. What is your point exactly? There's no relationship between those things. You're all over the place OP You wanted opinions and you got them. I am a bit to be honest. But I’m sure ye get my drift. I don’t mind what people wear and I’d agree with being this way and screw what others think. Do you and be happy is what’s most important but I still fear for what’s going to be seeing as acceptable in years to come. I’d suppose it’s more so this and the trend of different clothing from years ago is what I’m more so getting at. Fast forward another 20/30 year time & people won’t bat an eyelid when the person beside them doing their grocery shopping is in her/his/them birthday suit " That won’t happen op they’ll probably be all wearing protective suits head to toe if the predictions are correct | |||
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"Exposing anything covered by underwear would be considered indecent exposure so yes, going around with your balls hanging out would not be acceptable. You are talking about the bottom of an ass cheek though no? Nothing indecent about that. I’m not sure how you think the curve of an ass cheek and a ballsack are the same thing. " Believe me, some I have saw are not wearing underwear so therefore is not “covered by underwear”, were fellas to do the same, what’s to stop a nut from hanging out? | |||
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"Exposing anything covered by underwear would be considered indecent exposure so yes, going around with your balls hanging out would not be acceptable. You are talking about the bottom of an ass cheek though no? Nothing indecent about that. I’m not sure how you think the curve of an ass cheek and a ballsack are the same thing. Believe me, some I have saw are not wearing underwear so therefore is not “covered by underwear”, were fellas to do the same, what’s to stop a nut from hanging out? " But they were wearing shorts and thus their genitals were covered? | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. In fairness, Michael, it is unfortunate that there are exactly those predators out there who genuinely believe that girls/women dressed a certain way are "asking for it". Maybe there's an element of that worry in the Ops post. I'm all for freedom of expression where fashion is concerned... My daughter went through a goth kind of phase wear she wanted to wear dog collars, the shortest of skirts/shorts with fishnet stockings and heels at the age of 13. I allowed and even encouraged this - as long as she was in my or her father's company because there's no way in hell I would have let her loose like that in town on her own - because of the fear of her encouraging those predators!!! As a parent, I believe that everyone needs to make their youngsters aware of these dangers and the, in my opinion, increased potential of being harassed and more - simply by how you dress - because dressing a certain way certainly does attract more attention - unfortunately this attention can have devastating consequences. " The unfortunate reality is that women are in much more danger at home than they are out on the streets. The overwhelming majority of assaults against women in Ireland occur in the home and are most often perpetrated by people they know, and usually family members. | |||
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"Exposing anything covered by underwear would be considered indecent exposure so yes, going around with your balls hanging out would not be acceptable. You are talking about the bottom of an ass cheek though no? Nothing indecent about that. I’m not sure how you think the curve of an ass cheek and a ballsack are the same thing. Believe me, some I have saw are not wearing underwear so therefore is not “covered by underwear”, were fellas to do the same, what’s to stop a nut from hanging out? But they were wearing shorts and thus their genitals were covered? " But so too could a fella be, but we have the struggles with the two dangly boyos hanging which could try make an escape at any given opportunity | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. In fairness, Michael, it is unfortunate that there are exactly those predators out there who genuinely believe that girls/women dressed a certain way are "asking for it". Maybe there's an element of that worry in the Ops post. I'm all for freedom of expression where fashion is concerned... My daughter went through a goth kind of phase wear she wanted to wear dog collars, the shortest of skirts/shorts with fishnet stockings and heels at the age of 13. I allowed and even encouraged this - as long as she was in my or her father's company because there's no way in hell I would have let her loose like that in town on her own - because of the fear of her encouraging those predators!!! As a parent, I believe that everyone needs to make their youngsters aware of these dangers and the, in my opinion, increased potential of being harassed and more - simply by how you dress - because dressing a certain way certainly does attract more attention - unfortunately this attention can have devastating consequences. Thank you. I don’t think the way anyone dresses should be picked up as “asking for it” but the sad fact of the matter is that there are people out there in communities that do think just this and it is disgusting. When I wrote “red blooded male” I immediately thought of F##k I’ll be picked up as being one of the above, which I’m far from. I love having a cheeky look but Christ I would never think or act in that way. There’s no denying that the numbers of such things happening are on the up and I strongly feel that as unfortunate as it is, I do think such clothing is a driving force behind it" No the driving force is predators not being able to control themselves and respect women. | |||
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"Exposing anything covered by underwear would be considered indecent exposure so yes, going around with your balls hanging out would not be acceptable. You are talking about the bottom of an ass cheek though no? Nothing indecent about that. I’m not sure how you think the curve of an ass cheek and a ballsack are the same thing. Believe me, some I have saw are not wearing underwear so therefore is not “covered by underwear”, were fellas to do the same, what’s to stop a nut from hanging out? But they were wearing shorts and thus their genitals were covered? But so too could a fella be, but we have the struggles with the two dangly boyos hanging which could try make an escape at any given opportunity " Which is not an issue for a cis woman wearing shorts | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. In fairness, Michael, it is unfortunate that there are exactly those predators out there who genuinely believe that girls/women dressed a certain way are "asking for it". Maybe there's an element of that worry in the Ops post. I'm all for freedom of expression where fashion is concerned... My daughter went through a goth kind of phase wear she wanted to wear dog collars, the shortest of skirts/shorts with fishnet stockings and heels at the age of 13. I allowed and even encouraged this - as long as she was in my or her father's company because there's no way in hell I would have let her loose like that in town on her own - because of the fear of her encouraging those predators!!! As a parent, I believe that everyone needs to make their youngsters aware of these dangers and the, in my opinion, increased potential of being harassed and more - simply by how you dress - because dressing a certain way certainly does attract more attention - unfortunately this attention can have devastating consequences. The unfortunate reality is that women are in much more danger at home than they are out on the streets. The overwhelming majority of assaults against women in Ireland occur in the home and are most often perpetrated by people they know, and usually family members. " Yep I would agree, and hopefully my next part won’t be picked up wrong. But up until now, we haven’t had (or maybe we did and it weren’t being made as obvious) bus loads of unvetted single males arriving into the country. Combine this and maybe such clothing being worn together and I bet such incidents are a cert to increase which is the frightening thing | |||
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"Exposing anything covered by underwear would be considered indecent exposure so yes, going around with your balls hanging out would not be acceptable. You are talking about the bottom of an ass cheek though no? Nothing indecent about that. I’m not sure how you think the curve of an ass cheek and a ballsack are the same thing. Believe me, some I have saw are not wearing underwear so therefore is not “covered by underwear”, were fellas to do the same, what’s to stop a nut from hanging out? But they were wearing shorts and thus their genitals were covered? But so too could a fella be, but we have the struggles with the two dangly boyos hanging which could try make an escape at any given opportunity Which is not an issue for a cis woman wearing shorts " Point missed. We will leave it there | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. In fairness, Michael, it is unfortunate that there are exactly those predators out there who genuinely believe that girls/women dressed a certain way are "asking for it". Maybe there's an element of that worry in the Ops post. I'm all for freedom of expression where fashion is concerned... My daughter went through a goth kind of phase wear she wanted to wear dog collars, the shortest of skirts/shorts with fishnet stockings and heels at the age of 13. I allowed and even encouraged this - as long as she was in my or her father's company because there's no way in hell I would have let her loose like that in town on her own - because of the fear of her encouraging those predators!!! As a parent, I believe that everyone needs to make their youngsters aware of these dangers and the, in my opinion, increased potential of being harassed and more - simply by how you dress - because dressing a certain way certainly does attract more attention - unfortunately this attention can have devastating consequences. Thank you. I don’t think the way anyone dresses should be picked up as “asking for it” but the sad fact of the matter is that there are people out there in communities that do think just this and it is disgusting. When I wrote “red blooded male” I immediately thought of F##k I’ll be picked up as being one of the above, which I’m far from. I love having a cheeky look but Christ I would never think or act in that way. There’s no denying that the numbers of such things happening are on the up and I strongly feel that as unfortunate as it is, I do think such clothing is a driving force behind it No the driving force is predators not being able to control themselves and respect women. " But such clothes draws attention and women know that there is such predators out there . I know clothes etc isn’t the problem, it’s the sickos that are like this | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. In fairness, Michael, it is unfortunate that there are exactly those predators out there who genuinely believe that girls/women dressed a certain way are "asking for it". Maybe there's an element of that worry in the Ops post. I'm all for freedom of expression where fashion is concerned... My daughter went through a goth kind of phase wear she wanted to wear dog collars, the shortest of skirts/shorts with fishnet stockings and heels at the age of 13. I allowed and even encouraged this - as long as she was in my or her father's company because there's no way in hell I would have let her loose like that in town on her own - because of the fear of her encouraging those predators!!! As a parent, I believe that everyone needs to make their youngsters aware of these dangers and the, in my opinion, increased potential of being harassed and more - simply by how you dress - because dressing a certain way certainly does attract more attention - unfortunately this attention can have devastating consequences. The unfortunate reality is that women are in much more danger at home than they are out on the streets. The overwhelming majority of assaults against women in Ireland occur in the home and are most often perpetrated by people they know, and usually family members. Yep I would agree, and hopefully my next part won’t be picked up wrong. But up until now, we haven’t had (or maybe we did and it weren’t being made as obvious) bus loads of unvetted single males arriving into the country. Combine this and maybe such clothing being worn together and I bet such incidents are a cert to increase which is the frightening thing" Oh fuck off with your "busloads of unvetted males" horse shite and your right wing inspired scare mongering. That's the end of me and this load of shite. | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. In fairness, Michael, it is unfortunate that there are exactly those predators out there who genuinely believe that girls/women dressed a certain way are "asking for it". Maybe there's an element of that worry in the Ops post. I'm all for freedom of expression where fashion is concerned... My daughter went through a goth kind of phase wear she wanted to wear dog collars, the shortest of skirts/shorts with fishnet stockings and heels at the age of 13. I allowed and even encouraged this - as long as she was in my or her father's company because there's no way in hell I would have let her loose like that in town on her own - because of the fear of her encouraging those predators!!! As a parent, I believe that everyone needs to make their youngsters aware of these dangers and the, in my opinion, increased potential of being harassed and more - simply by how you dress - because dressing a certain way certainly does attract more attention - unfortunately this attention can have devastating consequences. The unfortunate reality is that women are in much more danger at home than they are out on the streets. The overwhelming majority of assaults against women in Ireland occur in the home and are most often perpetrated by people they know, and usually family members. Yep I would agree, and hopefully my next part won’t be picked up wrong. But up until now, we haven’t had (or maybe we did and it weren’t being made as obvious) bus loads of unvetted single males arriving into the country. Combine this and maybe such clothing being worn together and I bet such incidents are a cert to increase which is the frightening thing Oh fuck off with your "busloads of unvetted males" horse shite and your right wing inspired scare mongering. That's the end of me and this load of shite. Have a kit kat and a cold glass of cola " So the videos circulating and the protested against it is all just to scare monger is it? Wake up when you get up | |||
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"As I’m driving around the last few days in this lovely hot weather, I can’t help but be distracted by the clothes worn by some (I’m not complaining). Short shorts, ones that I thought girls might only wear to bed, not in public . Ye all know the ones, half butt cheek covered, leggin type ones and you can nearly tell what was eaten for breakfast Then it got me thinking, what was it like 30/40/50 years ago? I wouldn’t class myself as an old boring fart, but I genuinely fear for the future. It seems like a lot don’t have respect for themselves so definitely won’t have for others" Sorry OP, no offence, but shouldn't you focus on driving when driving? To many bad drivers in this country and let's be honest, half naked bottom is not a traffic sign! | |||
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"As I’m driving around the last few days in this lovely hot weather, I can’t help but be distracted by the clothes worn by some (I’m not complaining). Short shorts, ones that I thought girls might only wear to bed, not in public . Ye all know the ones, half butt cheek covered, leggin type ones and you can nearly tell what was eaten for breakfast Then it got me thinking, what was it like 30/40/50 years ago? I wouldn’t class myself as an old boring fart, but I genuinely fear for the future. It seems like a lot don’t have respect for themselves so definitely won’t have for others Sorry OP, no offence, but shouldn't you focus on driving when driving? To many bad drivers in this country and let's be honest, half naked bottom is not a traffic sign!" I must be a better multitasker than I thought, thankfully no crashes in my years of driving. Now there’s a good idea, a half naked bottom as a stop sign would definitely help some that pay no attention to stop signs and just plough on ahead | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. In fairness, Michael, it is unfortunate that there are exactly those predators out there who genuinely believe that girls/women dressed a certain way are "asking for it". Maybe there's an element of that worry in the Ops post. I'm all for freedom of expression where fashion is concerned... My daughter went through a goth kind of phase wear she wanted to wear dog collars, the shortest of skirts/shorts with fishnet stockings and heels at the age of 13. I allowed and even encouraged this - as long as she was in my or her father's company because there's no way in hell I would have let her loose like that in town on her own - because of the fear of her encouraging those predators!!! As a parent, I believe that everyone needs to make their youngsters aware of these dangers and the, in my opinion, increased potential of being harassed and more - simply by how you dress - because dressing a certain way certainly does attract more attention - unfortunately this attention can have devastating consequences. The unfortunate reality is that women are in much more danger at home than they are out on the streets. The overwhelming majority of assaults against women in Ireland occur in the home and are most often perpetrated by people they know, and usually family members. Yep I would agree, and hopefully my next part won’t be picked up wrong. But up until now, we haven’t had (or maybe we did and it weren’t being made as obvious) bus loads of unvetted single males arriving into the country. Combine this and maybe such clothing being worn together and I bet such incidents are a cert to increase which is the frightening thing Oh fuck off with your "busloads of unvetted males" horse shite and your right wing inspired scare mongering. That's the end of me and this load of shite. Have a kit kat and a cold glass of cola So the videos circulating and the protested against it is all just to scare monger is it? Wake up when you get up " Just once I'd like to read or hear an original thought from the right wing langbags. It's the same shit you all parrot. Take a break from your telegram chat group, get out and meet people instead of hiding in your room wanking into your hand. | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. In fairness, Michael, it is unfortunate that there are exactly those predators out there who genuinely believe that girls/women dressed a certain way are "asking for it". Maybe there's an element of that worry in the Ops post. I'm all for freedom of expression where fashion is concerned... My daughter went through a goth kind of phase wear she wanted to wear dog collars, the shortest of skirts/shorts with fishnet stockings and heels at the age of 13. I allowed and even encouraged this - as long as she was in my or her father's company because there's no way in hell I would have let her loose like that in town on her own - because of the fear of her encouraging those predators!!! As a parent, I believe that everyone needs to make their youngsters aware of these dangers and the, in my opinion, increased potential of being harassed and more - simply by how you dress - because dressing a certain way certainly does attract more attention - unfortunately this attention can have devastating consequences. The unfortunate reality is that women are in much more danger at home than they are out on the streets. The overwhelming majority of assaults against women in Ireland occur in the home and are most often perpetrated by people they know, and usually family members. Yep I would agree, and hopefully my next part won’t be picked up wrong. But up until now, we haven’t had (or maybe we did and it weren’t being made as obvious) bus loads of unvetted single males arriving into the country. Combine this and maybe such clothing being worn together and I bet such incidents are a cert to increase which is the frightening thing Oh fuck off with your "busloads of unvetted males" horse shite and your right wing inspired scare mongering. That's the end of me and this load of shite. Have a kit kat and a cold glass of cola So the videos circulating and the protested against it is all just to scare monger is it? Wake up when you get up Just once I'd like to read or hear an original thought from the right wing langbags. It's the same shit you all parrot. Take a break from your telegram chat group, get out and meet people instead of hiding in your room wanking into your hand. " Ah Billybones, don’t be like that. I’m neither right nor left wing, straight down the middle and just say it as I see it. Enlighten me though (you must be left wing, don’t sound as if you like “right wing langbags”) what’s your thought process on it all so? I’m lucky enough to have a nice job where I get to meant loads of people but thanks for your useless bit of advice. PS judging from your verification count, I think you might be the one “hiding in your room wanking into your hand” Just saying | |||
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"Right I'm not copying and pasting all the above Op ......the right wing mob in Ireland do use the expression unvetted single males of fighting age to cause diversion and frighten people especially when it come to the homeless situation and sexual assaults on women and children The homeless situation has nothing to do with these men coming in...its the government thats a feckin disaster and its on them Sexual assault and child abuse have been happening for decades in this country by unvetted men of fighting age usually by men of religion " 100% | |||
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"Right I'm not copying and pasting all the above Op ......the right wing mob in Ireland do use the expression unvetted single males of fighting age to cause diversion and frighten people especially when it come to the homeless situation and sexual assaults on women and children The homeless situation has nothing to do with these men coming in...its the government thats a feckin disaster and its on them Sexual assault and child abuse have been happening for decades in this country by unvetted men of fighting age usually by men of religion " I weren’t aware that this term would cause me to be linked to a certain wing, my bad on that one. I used this word because I personally feel this is what is happening in a lot of cases - huge numbers trying to come to Ireland so I would guess there’s a good few in without a thorough back ground check being done. I’m regards homelessness, I wouldn’t blame them for this, that problem was in Ireland long and ever ago. But there are a lot of hotels etc that have being dedicated to housing them. If it can be done for them, why was it never done for our own? But all of this is a different conversation and topic than the one I started. In regards your last point : I agree, all I’m saying is it’s much more likely to increase since the numbers have increased | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. In fairness, Michael, it is unfortunate that there are exactly those predators out there who genuinely believe that girls/women dressed a certain way are "asking for it". Maybe there's an element of that worry in the Ops post. I'm all for freedom of expression where fashion is concerned... My daughter went through a goth kind of phase wear she wanted to wear dog collars, the shortest of skirts/shorts with fishnet stockings and heels at the age of 13. I allowed and even encouraged this - as long as she was in my or her father's company because there's no way in hell I would have let her loose like that in town on her own - because of the fear of her encouraging those predators!!! As a parent, I believe that everyone needs to make their youngsters aware of these dangers and the, in my opinion, increased potential of being harassed and more - simply by how you dress - because dressing a certain way certainly does attract more attention - unfortunately this attention can have devastating consequences. The unfortunate reality is that women are in much more danger at home than they are out on the streets. The overwhelming majority of assaults against women in Ireland occur in the home and are most often perpetrated by people they know, and usually family members. Yep I would agree, and hopefully my next part won’t be picked up wrong. But up until now, we haven’t had (or maybe we did and it weren’t being made as obvious) bus loads of unvetted single males arriving into the country. Combine this and maybe such clothing being worn together and I bet such incidents are a cert to increase which is the frightening thing Oh fuck off with your "busloads of unvetted males" horse shite and your right wing inspired scare mongering. That's the end of me and this load of shite. Have a kit kat and a cold glass of cola So the videos circulating and the protested against it is all just to scare monger is it? Wake up when you get up Just once I'd like to read or hear an original thought from the right wing langbags. It's the same shit you all parrot. Take a break from your telegram chat group, get out and meet people instead of hiding in your room wanking into your hand. Ah Billybones, don’t be like that. I’m neither right nor left wing, straight down the middle and just say it as I see it. Enlighten me though (you must be left wing, don’t sound as if you like “right wing langbags”) what’s your thought process on it all so? I’m lucky enough to have a nice job where I get to meant loads of people but thanks for your useless bit of advice. PS judging from your verification count, I think you might be the one “hiding in your room wanking into your hand” Just saying Straight down the middle and swerving into protest street. I have no issue with people coming to Ireland for whatever reason, I have friends who arrived here in difficult circumstances and made ireland their home over time. Blatant xenophobia is just pathetic, you equate your concern for what women wear with your fear of a group of people you don't know. Scroll back up the thread and if the replies from reasonable people don't help you reconsider your view then there's not much hope of me doing it. You don't have to be afraid of change, people move around the globe, we've done it for decades. " I’ve no problem with people coming here either, emigrate is a fact of life (what a song) all I’m worried about is that when you look in numbers, the amount of men of fighting age outweigh the number of women/families(fathers included) by 3/1. Turn the tables and imagine Ireland going tho the same situation. Bud loads of Irish fellas wouldn’t be accepted in these countries and housed up in hotels. There’s no point coming back with the old “too much watching this or that chestnut” as I’m speaking from first hand experience on this. Take courtown in Wexford as an example - beautiful place, great for family holidays or day trips to the beach. Now the main hotel there is housing 65 single immigrant males who have already being involved in fights both within their group and outside their group, even stabbings. Girls not able to walk the beach because of being followed by large groups of these said immigrants. Dress it up whatever way you, or anyone else likes - the facts are there clear to be seen | |||
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"OP, you're getting very close to the old "asking for it" line. You need to correct your own thinking, and stop trying to dictate what others should wear. In fairness, Michael, it is unfortunate that there are exactly those predators out there who genuinely believe that girls/women dressed a certain way are "asking for it". Maybe there's an element of that worry in the Ops post. I'm all for freedom of expression where fashion is concerned... My daughter went through a goth kind of phase wear she wanted to wear dog collars, the shortest of skirts/shorts with fishnet stockings and heels at the age of 13. I allowed and even encouraged this - as long as she was in my or her father's company because there's no way in hell I would have let her loose like that in town on her own - because of the fear of her encouraging those predators!!! As a parent, I believe that everyone needs to make their youngsters aware of these dangers and the, in my opinion, increased potential of being harassed and more - simply by how you dress - because dressing a certain way certainly does attract more attention - unfortunately this attention can have devastating consequences. The unfortunate reality is that women are in much more danger at home than they are out on the streets. The overwhelming majority of assaults against women in Ireland occur in the home and are most often perpetrated by people they know, and usually family members. Yep I would agree, and hopefully my next part won’t be picked up wrong. But up until now, we haven’t had (or maybe we did and it weren’t being made as obvious) bus loads of unvetted single males arriving into the country. Combine this and maybe such clothing being worn together and I bet such incidents are a cert to increase which is the frightening thing Oh fuck off with your "busloads of unvetted males" horse shite and your right wing inspired scare mongering. That's the end of me and this load of shite. Have a kit kat and a cold glass of cola So the videos circulating and the protested against it is all just to scare monger is it? Wake up when you get up Just once I'd like to read or hear an original thought from the right wing langbags. It's the same shit you all parrot. Take a break from your telegram chat group, get out and meet people instead of hiding in your room wanking into your hand. Ah Billybones, don’t be like that. I’m neither right nor left wing, straight down the middle and just say it as I see it. Enlighten me though (you must be left wing, don’t sound as if you like “right wing langbags”) what’s your thought process on it all so? I’m lucky enough to have a nice job where I get to meant loads of people but thanks for your useless bit of advice. PS judging from your verification count, I think you might be the one “hiding in your room wanking into your hand” Just saying Straight down the middle and swerving into protest street. I have no issue with people coming to Ireland for whatever reason, I have friends who arrived here in difficult circumstances and made ireland their home over time. Blatant xenophobia is just pathetic, you equate your concern for what women wear with your fear of a group of people you don't know. Scroll back up the thread and if the replies from reasonable people don't help you reconsider your view then there's not much hope of me doing it. You don't have to be afraid of change, people move around the globe, we've done it for decades. I’ve no problem with people coming here either, emigrate is a fact of life (what a song) all I’m worried about is that when you look in numbers, the amount of men of fighting age outweigh the number of women/families(fathers included) by 3/1. Turn the tables and imagine Ireland going tho the same situation. Bud loads of Irish fellas wouldn’t be accepted in these countries and housed up in hotels. There’s no point coming back with the old “too much watching this or that chestnut” as I’m speaking from first hand experience on this. Take courtown in Wexford as an example - beautiful place, great for family holidays or day trips to the beach. Now the main hotel there is housing 65 single immigrant males who have already being involved in fights both within their group and outside their group, even stabbings. Girls not able to walk the beach because of being followed by large groups of these said immigrants. Dress it up whatever way you, or anyone else likes - the facts are there clear to be seen " "Men of fighting age" enough said here. | |||
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"As I’m driving around the last few days in this lovely hot weather, I can’t help but be distracted by the clothes worn by some (I’m not complaining). Short shorts, ones that I thought girls might only wear to bed, not in public . Ye all know the ones, half butt cheek covered, leggin type ones and you can nearly tell what was eaten for breakfast Then it got me thinking, what was it like 30/40/50 years ago? I wouldn’t class myself as an old boring fart, but I genuinely fear for the future. It seems like a lot don’t have respect for themselves so definitely won’t have for others You have a cock picture as profile picture. That is a lack of respect for all the people on here that are sick of looking at dick pics. " Such a stupid comment, similar to one above. If I was in public with my cock out, then it might be some way related to this post. But it’s not, this is a sex site and I’m breaking no site rules by having a cock picture | |||
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"We should be treating the op as a national hero single handedly protecting the young vulnerable women from the bus loads of foreign men of fighting age invading our country " Typical stupid little snide comment of a person that will more than likely be one of the first to whinge when it’s too late. Will be too late then John to sit behind your keyboard, you big fierce warrior | |||
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"So because someone wears ‘short shorts’ they must have no respect for themselves or others? Straight to the point! Wanted to ask the same I’d suppose the way I’ve said it ain’t exactly what I mean. The wrong type of clothes attracts the wrong type of attention This is blatant victim shaming though. No matter how you dress it. The problem lies with people who can't control themselves, who are so entitled that they refuse to understand that their attention is not asked for. Blaming women for how they dress is just perpetuating the problem. Start with changing your own attitude instead of asking women to change the clothes they wear. I don’t need to change my own attitude thanks, quite happen with it. I know, clothes type or anything else in that matter won’t make me carry out such disgusting acts. Nor did I ask anyone to change the clothes they wear? So wherever your pulling this from, bring it back thanks " Literally "the wrong type of clothes attracts the wrong type of attention" But it's a waste of time. People who think like that rarely see what's wrong with that attitude | |||
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"You're probably still too young understand OP but women talk to each other and you've made no friends here at all. Ya hate to see it you'll get it when you have a few more years on you. I'm sure even one of your red pill sugar daddies could explain that walking into paradise and soiling the bed is probably not a good idea. But maybe it's ok. Maybe you just had a little accident." I hope this might make sense to someone else because it don’t to me. Keep hydrated, very warm today. Maybe you have sun stroke | |||
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"Or duffle coats a the old days Were they the coats with the massive hoods on them? Ya and the wooden buttons Mine was lovely when it was new I’d say Same as myself ..passed down from the older brother and smelling like a dead dog when it got wet walking to school But I got it a bit later" | |||
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"Jesus jimmy were on duffle coats Well when you can see the cats teeth it's getting scary." Put a black gum shield on the cat jimmy you be grand | |||
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"Jesus jimmy were on duffle coats Well when you can see the cats teeth it's getting scary. Put a black gum shield on the cat jimmy you be grand But some of those cats can use their claws as well." Put oven gloves on them jimmy for fuck sake | |||
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"Or duffle coats a the old days Were they the coats with the massive hoods on them? Ya and the wooden buttons Oh yeah remb them now I never had one ...parents couldn't afford Penny's Hun " No Penny's in walkinstown Bog | |||
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"Or duffle coats a the old days Were they the coats with the massive hoods on them? Ya and the wooden buttons Oh yeah remb them now I never had one ...parents couldn't afford " Mine didn’t either but it was like an investment to pass down Everyone had a coat in the winter when the others grew up | |||
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"Or duffle coats a the old days Were they the coats with the massive hoods on them? Ya and the wooden buttons Oh yeah remb them now I never had one ...parents couldn't afford Mine didn’t either but it was like an investment to pass down Everyone had a coat in the winter when the others grew up Thank feck I was the eldest we had a bath on a Saturday I got the fresh water .. was like dipping sheep lol Fuck’n yuppies We lived in Dublin 24 at the time lol things was hard " They were hard everywhere Lou but we got there Sure now where all living the dream not | |||
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"Jimmy you are a ray of sunshine as always " Well i do have a little self respect unfortunately can't say that for everyone. | |||
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"Jimmy you are a ray of sunshine as always Well i do have a little self respect unfortunately can't say that for everyone." I do have a little self respect | |||
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"The only assaults I can find when I google Courtown is from 2019 and some fighting age unvetted males that arrived in their hundreds attacked some women in the harbour ....but they were Dubs down for the summer Is that what you mean Op " Irish mirror 26th of march 2023, it’s the first one that comes up for me, try putting in courtown stabbing and you will find it . The one your are referring to actually was 4 members of the travelling community that were from Wexford, not Dublin | |||
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"Comparing street fashion to formal wear is ludicrous and makes no sense at all. On the one hand you say they have no respect for themselves and on the other hand you say people don't dress like that at formal events out of respect for others. What is your point exactly? There's no relationship between those things. You're all over the place OP You wanted opinions and you got them. I am a bit to be honest. But I’m sure ye get my drift. I don’t mind what people wear and I’d agree with being this way and screw what others think. Do you and be happy is what’s most important but I still fear for what’s going to be seeing as acceptable in years to come. I’d suppose it’s more so this and the trend of different clothing from years ago is what I’m more so getting at. Fast forward another 20/30 year time & people won’t bat an eyelid when the person beside them doing their grocery shopping is in her/his/them birthday suit " (Don't have a good at me people, for what I'm about to say) JASUS OP Talking about going around the house & mind the dresser. If you had put some of this reply, along with changing a few words(maybe/more than likely). Would have prevented your post from getting under the skin of along of people in this thread. You kinda have a point alright. Just like everybody else that's on this thread. Your wording of it didn't help you in anyway. To imply that the way a woman dresses is disrespectful to herself or the likes is wrong. No there not going to wear the same type of clothes to a wedding or funeral, etc. Neither do men wear the same type of clothing to them event's, as if they were going to the beach or for leisure wear. I support & agree that women are entitled & should wear whatever they like/want to, whatever age,shape they are. It's their given right to do that, just like men do. They shouldn't be ashamed to do that either.I think & say fair play to them, I look forward to seeing them. Just like alot of other people. Men aren't much better, at what they wear or lack of it either. Just cause you don't see it,hear of cases where mens ball's aren't hanging out side they're shorts, cause of the short, short that there wearing. I'd say it's more to do with luck more than anything really. Look at all the men that goes around topless in the hot weather. Some of them shouldn't do it(in away). But they do it & nobody bates an eye lid about it. Do you see men going to event's topless? How many men do you see around the place, with there trousers nearly falling off them? In some cases it's called builder's bum(is that right ladies?). You say that some of them aren't wearing any underwear, under them short shorts, your doing alot of driving & multi tasking, etc. How in the name of god, can you really stand over that? To even think that, you weren't driving or multitasking, at them times. In them cases it's more a case of "Stop & stear" to even think of standing over saying that OP. Just cause you can't see anything or certain parts can be seen under the short shorts, doesn't mean that they're not wearing any. I'm not saying some of them aren't, it's bad form for you to imply it in the first place OP. Are you saying that men wear underwear, all of the time, cause they're ball bag isn't hanging out or outline of it? To call or say men are of fighting age, isn't right either. That could mean anything, to different people. Where did you come up with that saying? I do agree with you on the homeless front in this Country & the government should do the same thing with our own people as there doing with putting foreigners up in hotel's, etc. To imply that women that get sexual assaulted cause of what their wearing or lack of clothes, is wrong. Are you saying that women that are(so called) fully clothed, don't get sexual assaulted or harassed on night's out by men? That's 100% down to the individual man, nothing else. To the lady/parents that posted on here about there 13 going through a gott period. Ye were right & good for ye. OP, your using a cock pic as your profile on a sex site, just cause your not going out in public with your cock out for all the public to see. That doesn't mean you should be doing it. Alot of people see it & I'm sure aren't happy see it either. It's on the internet, so it's as good as out in the public, just like walking around the street with it out, for everybody to see it(each to they're own). Alot of women will see this thread, that were thinking about meeting you & maybe even playing with you in the future. That could be gone, cause of this thread, with your wording & replies in this thread, OP. | |||
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"I'm curious if the OP thinks a sexually assaulted girl/woman is 'asking for it' because she's dressed sexy. I feel that if everyone just stayed in their lane and kept their norms to themselves, the world would be a much better place. " I never once said because of the way someone dresses they are asking for it, in fact if you bothered reading all the comments you would have saw I said the opposite. Nothing anyone does nor wears means they are asking for it, and for anyone that has suffered such a horrific thing - my heart goes out to them. Your last part is exactly why this thread has gotten so much replies, anyone commenting is doing the opposite to staying in one lane by expressing their thoughts and feelings. Imagine how boring things would be if there was only one lane? | |||
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"Just looking through the thread and it's the same old story just because someone says what he thinks he's attacked from all sides. Some attitudes rightly should be challenged " That's me out sorry I'm not into heavy shit I'm just hear 4 a laugh and if I'm lucky a Ride.. nite all x lou | |||
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"Comparing street fashion to formal wear is ludicrous and makes no sense at all. On the one hand you say they have no respect for themselves and on the other hand you say people don't dress like that at formal events out of respect for others. What is your point exactly? There's no relationship between those things. You're all over the place OP You wanted opinions and you got them. I am a bit to be honest. But I’m sure ye get my drift. I don’t mind what people wear and I’d agree with being this way and screw what others think. Do you and be happy is what’s most important but I still fear for what’s going to be seeing as acceptable in years to come. I’d suppose it’s more so this and the trend of different clothing from years ago is what I’m more so getting at. Fast forward another 20/30 year time & people won’t bat an eyelid when the person beside them doing their grocery shopping is in her/his/them birthday suit (Don't have a good at me people, for what I'm about to say) JASUS OP Talking about going around the house & mind the dresser. If you had put some of this reply, along with changing a few words(maybe/more than likely). Would have prevented your post from getting under the skin of along of people in this thread. You kinda have a point alright. Just like everybody else that's on this thread. Your wording of it didn't help you in anyway. To imply that the way a woman dresses is disrespectful to herself or the likes is wrong. No there not going to wear the same type of clothes to a wedding or funeral, etc. Neither do men wear the same type of clothing to them event's, as if they were going to the beach or for leisure wear. I support & agree that women are entitled & should wear whatever they like/want to, whatever age,shape they are. It's their given right to do that, just like men do. They shouldn't be ashamed to do that either.I think & say fair play to them, I look forward to seeing them. Just like alot of other people. Men aren't much better, at what they wear or lack of it either. Just cause you don't see it,hear of cases where mens ball's aren't hanging out side they're shorts, cause of the short, short that there wearing. I'd say it's more to do with luck more than anything really. Look at all the men that goes around topless in the hot weather. Some of them shouldn't do it(in away). But they do it & nobody bates an eye lid about it. Do you see men going to event's topless? How many men do you see around the place, with there trousers nearly falling off them? In some cases it's called builder's bum(is that right ladies?). You say that some of them aren't wearing any underwear, under them short shorts, your doing alot of driving & multi tasking, etc. How in the name of god, can you really stand over that? To even think that, you weren't driving or multitasking, at them times. In them cases it's more a case of "Stop & stear" to even think of standing over saying that OP. Just cause you can't see anything or certain parts can be seen under the short shorts, doesn't mean that they're not wearing any. I'm not saying some of them aren't, it's bad form for you to imply it in the first place OP. Are you saying that men wear underwear, all of the time, cause they're ball bag isn't hanging out or outline of it? To call or say men are of fighting age, isn't right either. That could mean anything, to different people. Where did you come up with that saying? I do agree with you on the homeless front in this Country & the government should do the same thing with our own people as there doing with putting foreigners up in hotel's, etc. To imply that women that get sexual assaulted cause of what their wearing or lack of clothes, is wrong. Are you saying that women that are(so called) fully clothed, don't get sexual assaulted or harassed on night's out by men? That's 100% down to the individual man, nothing else. To the lady/parents that posted on here about there 13 going through a gott period. Ye were right & good for ye. OP, your using a cock pic as your profile on a sex site, just cause your not going out in public with your cock out for all the public to see. That doesn't mean you should be doing it. Alot of people see it & I'm sure aren't happy see it either. It's on the internet, so it's as good as out in the public, just like walking around the street with it out, for everybody to see it(each to they're own). Alot of women will see this thread, that were thinking about meeting you & maybe even playing with you in the future. That could be gone, cause of this thread, with your wording & replies in this thread, OP." Fair play for your above comment. You have summed up the whole post in one. I meant no harm by the post and some of my replies were made more in anger than appreciating a different opinion than mine | |||
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"Comparing street fashion to formal wear is ludicrous and makes no sense at all. On the one hand you say they have no respect for themselves and on the other hand you say people don't dress like that at formal events out of respect for others. What is your point exactly? There's no relationship between those things. You're all over the place OP You wanted opinions and you got them. I am a bit to be honest. But I’m sure ye get my drift. I don’t mind what people wear and I’d agree with being this way and screw what others think. Do you and be happy is what’s most important but I still fear for what’s going to be seeing as acceptable in years to come. I’d suppose it’s more so this and the trend of different clothing from years ago is what I’m more so getting at. Fast forward another 20/30 year time & people won’t bat an eyelid when the person beside them doing their grocery shopping is in her/his/them birthday suit (Don't have a good at me people, for what I'm about to say) JASUS OP Talking about going around the house & mind the dresser. If you had put some of this reply, along with changing a few words(maybe/more than likely). Would have prevented your post from getting under the skin of along of people in this thread. You kinda have a point alright. Just like everybody else that's on this thread. Your wording of it didn't help you in anyway. To imply that the way a woman dresses is disrespectful to herself or the likes is wrong. No there not going to wear the same type of clothes to a wedding or funeral, etc. Neither do men wear the same type of clothing to them event's, as if they were going to the beach or for leisure wear. I support & agree that women are entitled & should wear whatever they like/want to, whatever age,shape they are. It's their given right to do that, just like men do. They shouldn't be ashamed to do that either.I think & say fair play to them, I look forward to seeing them. Just like alot of other people. Men aren't much better, at what they wear or lack of it either. Just cause you don't see it,hear of cases where mens ball's aren't hanging out side they're shorts, cause of the short, short that there wearing. I'd say it's more to do with luck more than anything really. Look at all the men that goes around topless in the hot weather. Some of them shouldn't do it(in away). But they do it & nobody bates an eye lid about it. Do you see men going to event's topless? How many men do you see around the place, with there trousers nearly falling off them? In some cases it's called builder's bum(is that right ladies?). You say that some of them aren't wearing any underwear, under them short shorts, your doing alot of driving & multi tasking, etc. How in the name of god, can you really stand over that? To even think that, you weren't driving or multitasking, at them times. In them cases it's more a case of "Stop & stear" to even think of standing over saying that OP. Just cause you can't see anything or certain parts can be seen under the short shorts, doesn't mean that they're not wearing any. I'm not saying some of them aren't, it's bad form for you to imply it in the first place OP. Are you saying that men wear underwear, all of the time, cause they're ball bag isn't hanging out or outline of it? To call or say men are of fighting age, isn't right either. That could mean anything, to different people. Where did you come up with that saying? I do agree with you on the homeless front in this Country & the government should do the same thing with our own people as there doing with putting foreigners up in hotel's, etc. To imply that women that get sexual assaulted cause of what their wearing or lack of clothes, is wrong. Are you saying that women that are(so called) fully clothed, don't get sexual assaulted or harassed on night's out by men? That's 100% down to the individual man, nothing else. To the lady/parents that posted on here about there 13 going through a gott period. Ye were right & good for ye. OP, your using a cock pic as your profile on a sex site, just cause your not going out in public with your cock out for all the public to see. That doesn't mean you should be doing it. Alot of people see it & I'm sure aren't happy see it either. It's on the internet, so it's as good as out in the public, just like walking around the street with it out, for everybody to see it(each to they're own). Alot of women will see this thread, that were thinking about meeting you & maybe even playing with you in the future. That could be gone, cause of this thread, with your wording & replies in this thread, OP. Fair play for your above comment. You have summed up the whole post in one. I meant no harm by the post and some of my replies were made more in anger than appreciating a different opinion than mine " Going through the thread I kinda guest that alright. The way you worded it,mess it up on you alright, I'd say. I could end up getting blocked meself from some profiles, cause of my reply to you. | |||
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"Fair play I hope Rory gets to 175 for the weekend What are you talking about? If he does it’s a record (golf) that no one will break " O right, that's good to know & hopefully he does it aswell. This isn't the sporting thread. I kinda guest the golf part alright. | |||
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"Fair play I hope Rory gets to 175 for the weekend What are you talking about? If he does it’s a record (golf) that no one will break O right, that's good to know & hopefully he does it aswell. This isn't the sporting thread. I kinda guest the golf part alright. " I know but ja know people should just ease up a little Night all watching till I’m asleep | |||
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"Fair play I hope Rory gets to 175 for the weekend What are you talking about? If he does it’s a record (golf) that no one will break O right, that's good to know & hopefully he does it aswell. This isn't the sporting thread. I kinda guest the golf part alright. I know but ja know people should just ease up a little Night all watching till I’m asleep " Ya true. I must head to bed meself aswell. Hopefully Rory does it. Have you anything on him, to do it? | |||
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"How do you equate what someone chooses to wear and not having respect for themselves? There's a fine line being drawn there with that opinion. You think having half your arse out walking around town don’t show a lack of self respect? I’d be the opposite. I don’t have kids myself, but if I did I wouldn’t like them dressed like it. Me, myself like most red blooded males can’t help but look, but truthfully I feel bad for them and understand it’s probably the norm now with this generation and all social media trends etc" Following trends simply to be on trend or to be cool , is im many cases disrespectful to your through self .... so its not what people wear its why they wear it ! | |||
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"How do you equate what someone chooses to wear and not having respect for themselves? There's a fine line being drawn there with that opinion. You think having half your arse out walking around town don’t show a lack of self respect? I’d be the opposite. I don’t have kids myself, but if I did I wouldn’t like them dressed like it. Me, myself like most red blooded males can’t help but look, but truthfully I feel bad for them and understand it’s probably the norm now with this generation and all social media trends etc I think it shows a degree of confidence rather than lack of respect. I'm the father of 3 grown daughters and I've never once told them what to wear or not wear. The issue is always with others and not the person wearing the short shorts. " Thats bullshit , The issue can be on either side of the situation. Many people wear provocative clothes in the hopes of being desired. A un healthy need to be desired by all which leads to the sexualizing of your lack of clothes, instigated by you, I would honestly consider an issue for anyone . | |||
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"Its very easy to get on this bandwagon and attact the op as if he has said all skimpy clothes are only worn by girls without any self respect ... Thats not what he said , its just easier to start a pc correct wagon if ye make out he did !!! What he actually said was he worries about the future. He wanted to know what other people think. He said he thinks that girls who walk around with half their asses hanging out probably don't have a loss of self respect. Now there is a whole string of people trying to make out that he has said that girls shouldn't dress like this. He has never said any such thing. Like you all have been a pains to point out hes entitled to an opinion just like the rest of us. Ease the f**k up lads " No, what he actually actually said was "I wouldn’t class myself as an old boring fart, but I genuinely fear for the future. It seems like a lot don’t have respect for themselves so definitely won’t have for others" I'd love to know he comes to the conclusion that they don't have any respect for themselves, and in turn how they choose to dress in any way correlates to their respect for others. It's absolutely bizarre | |||
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"Its very easy to get on this bandwagon and attact the op as if he has said all skimpy clothes are only worn by girls without any self respect ... Thats not what he said , its just easier to start a pc correct wagon if ye make out he did !!! What he actually said was he worries about the future. He wanted to know what other people think. He said he thinks that girls who walk around with half their asses hanging out probably don't have a loss of self respect. Now there is a whole string of people trying to make out that he has said that girls shouldn't dress like this. He has never said any such thing. Like you all have been a pains to point out hes entitled to an opinion just like the rest of us. Ease the f**k up lads No, what he actually actually said was "I wouldn’t class myself as an old boring fart, but I genuinely fear for the future. It seems like a lot don’t have respect for themselves so definitely won’t have for others" I'd love to know he comes to the conclusion that they don't have any respect for themselves, and in turn how they choose to dress in any way correlates to their respect for others. It's absolutely bizarre" Maybe your opinion on it is different than mine. I’m ok with that but you seem to think my opinion is bizarre. When you dress modestly, you show respect for yourself. Teenage girls will follow what they see, as it will seem like fashion, but they won’t know the dangers at first. It does and always will cause unintended attention. I’m not saying girls are wrong for dressing this way, I know it shouldn’t lead to any of the vile things happening but unfortunately that’s the world we live in today | |||
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"Its very easy to get on this bandwagon and attact the op as if he has said all skimpy clothes are only worn by girls without any self respect ... Thats not what he said , its just easier to start a pc correct wagon if ye make out he did !!! What he actually said was he worries about the future. He wanted to know what other people think. He said he thinks that girls who walk around with half their asses hanging out probably don't have a loss of self respect. Now there is a whole string of people trying to make out that he has said that girls shouldn't dress like this. He has never said any such thing. Like you all have been a pains to point out hes entitled to an opinion just like the rest of us. Ease the f**k up lads " Thanks. It seems that a lot of people that have commented don’t share the same views as I do, so they go out of their way to try and disagree but also twist what has being said so that they sound like they are right. There’s no right or wrong in what I have asked | |||
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"For the record I don't have to go even the slight of bit out of my way to try to disagree. I disagree. End of. And no-one has to twist anything when it's all up there in black & white. A final thought. You said you're not one of those bad guys who do bad things to women just because of how they're dressed and I'm sure you're not. But maybe stop paying lip service to that and start being an advocate for change. " “Paying lip service” now there’s one I haven’t heard in a while. I’ve already said I have no problem with whatever clothes is worn but I feel it does show a lack of self respect. It’s the unwanted attention that comes with the revealing clothes is what I’m worried about and feel will be only get worse. What do you suppose I do so to pay lip service? Follow girls around and stop these weirdos from sexually attacking them? Hunt all the r****t out of the country? Enlighten me | |||
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"For the record I don't have to go even the slight of bit out of my way to try to disagree. I disagree. End of. And no-one has to twist anything when it's all up there in black & white. A final thought. You said you're not one of those bad guys who do bad things to women just because of how they're dressed and I'm sure you're not. But maybe stop paying lip service to that and start being an advocate for change. “Paying lip service” now there’s one I haven’t heard in a while. I’ve already said I have no problem with whatever clothes is worn but I feel it does show a lack of self respect. It’s the unwanted attention that comes with the revealing clothes is what I’m worried about and feel will be only get worse. What do you suppose I do so to pay lip service? Follow girls around and stop these weirdos from sexually attacking them? Hunt all the r****t out of the country? Enlighten me" There it is right there. There's nothing more to say | |||
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"Its very easy to get on this bandwagon and attact the op as if he has said all skimpy clothes are only worn by girls without any self respect ... Thats not what he said , its just easier to start a pc correct wagon if ye make out he did !!! What he actually said was he worries about the future. He wanted to know what other people think. He said he thinks that girls who walk around with half their asses hanging out probably don't have a loss of self respect. Now there is a whole string of people trying to make out that he has said that girls shouldn't dress like this. He has never said any such thing. Like you all have been a pains to point out hes entitled to an opinion just like the rest of us. Ease the f**k up lads Thanks. It seems that a lot of people that have commented don’t share the same views as I do, so they go out of their way to try and disagree but also twist what has being said so that they sound like they are right. There’s no right or wrong in what I have asked " Not even a slight detour required or any twisting involved apart from yourself. You said you were distracted by girls clothing and weren't complaining. You then went on to say you feared for the future because these girls were influenced by peer pressure or social media to dress in these clothes and the unwanted attention they received was an indictment of modern Irish society. You refused to acknowledge that you are part of the problem in the way you were able to determine they weren't wearing underwear and went to great lengths to compare and contrast how the reaction would be different if it was a guy. All while driving. Maybe it was your fertile imagination at work but regardless you started a thread that you knew would get a heated reaction and like most of those threads then tried backpedalling and blaming others for misreading your intentions. | |||
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