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"Some wines do improve with age, but the quality of the grape, the 'terroir', weather during growth and critically at harvesting, are some of the many factors that affect the quality of a wine. Eventually, some turn to vinegar, most are mediocre run-of-the-mill products, so-called plonk, whilst a few become real classics, are sought by someliers and connoisseurs of a quality product for laying down to be consumed on a truly special occasion. However, once a bottle is opened, its nose assessed, it has to be consumed. To be a great wine many factors have to be right; and so it is here too! Some reputedly great wines are really plonk, and some with less than perfect reputations go on to become classics and are sought out, relentlessly!" | |||
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"Some wines do improve with age, but the quality of the grape, the 'terroir', weather during growth and critically at harvesting, are some of the many factors that affect the quality of a wine. Eventually, some turn to vinegar, most are mediocre run-of-the-mill products, so-called plonk, whilst a few become real classics, are sought by someliers and connoisseurs of a quality product for laying down to be consumed on a truly special occasion. However, once a bottle is opened, its nose assessed, it has to be consumed. To be a great wine many factors have to be right; and so it is here too! Some reputedly great wines are really plonk, and some with less than perfect reputations go on to become classics and are sought out, relentlessly! " Sometimes all that is needed is a simple thumbs-up. Nite Lou. | |||
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"Some wines do improve with age, but the quality of the grape, the 'terroir', weather during growth and critically at harvesting, are some of the many factors that affect the quality of a wine. Eventually, some turn to vinegar, most are mediocre run-of-the-mill products, so-called plonk, whilst a few become real classics, are sought by someliers and connoisseurs of a quality product for laying down to be consumed on a truly special occasion. However, once a bottle is opened, its nose assessed, it has to be consumed. To be a great wine many factors have to be right; and so it is here too! Some reputedly great wines are really plonk, and some with less than perfect reputations go on to become classics and are sought out, relentlessly! Sometimes all that is needed is a simple thumbs-up. Nite Lou." Goodnight pal | |||
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"Any site where the numbers are completely and utterly lobsided, of course one has the upper hand. " I don't understand this way of thinking. If the numbers were equal do you think all the men would be getting the ride? Because - and I can only speak for myself here - regardless if there's one hundred men or one man, I'd still not fuck him if he wasn't my cup of tea. If (some) men are less choosy about who they stick their cock in, that's on them. Let's not blame it on a misperception of women being in control. | |||
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"Any site where the numbers are completely and utterly lobsided, of course one has the upper hand. " Odds are good But Goods are mostly odd | |||
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"Some people obviously don't understand the principle of supply and demand. For that to apply requires the supply of the product in demand. Numbers alone don't mean greater choice. If you go into a shop looking for a brass screw and 90% of the shop is taken up with other products they are irrelevant. You find the right shelf and half of the screws are chrome and so on and so on. Claiming that women are in control and have greater choice is exactly the same as saying "fuck it, that chrome screw will do even if it's not what I came in for!" It's a bit like claiming that men don't have options on here when they clearly do. Anyone saying that women have all the power on here must approach them as if they are a Borg collective rather than as individuals. " Well said. | |||
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"No I absolutely do not agree. In terms of options, I do believe women have more (depending on their standards). But based on my experience, men are just as in control as women" This for me is true, women don’t have control here, outside fab, men hold most of the senior position in work with the best paid salaries. It’s a male dominated world for centuries and they don’t like giving up that power. On Fab cause they are out numbered they seem that as not in control but as soon as they meet or start chatting they try try take that control back! Take the added factor to why any individual or couple are on here, they are looking to live a fantasy that they haven’t had in their day to day lives and the control element goes out the window. They start chatting to someone who is looking for something completely different and that connection is lost. For me it’s not about control, it’s miscommunication. | |||
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"No I don't believe women are in control on here. I believe they get more attention and messages than most men do. But that does not equate control it's just means more people blow smoke up their asses. But seeing the amount of forum posts from women saying how much they get crappy messages,ghosted, let down etc then no they are not anymore in control than anyone else. Sure there are things you can do to help your fab journey and cut down on messages etc but it doesn't give you more control over all on here. And yes there are some women (and men for that matter)who believe that they do have power on here. I mean quite a few of us I'm sure have had the do you not know who I am message etc at some point off someone. It just makes me laugh as I don't care who they are or what power they believe they yield on here and it certainly has never made me want to interact or meet someone because of a message like that it and funnily enough it hasn't affected my fab journey either. " 1) Men get that ghosting / crap messages / getting let down also. Those arent female-only issues. They DO have much more opportunity to get meets though as they will get a lot more responses. 2) More attention IS more control. Men feel a loss of power because they feel ignored. Their power is reduced here over what they are used to. 3) Some women do believe they have more power here. That's because they genuinely do. It doesn't need to be as strong as "do you not know who I am". Simply owning a vagina and being in a minority gives power. It's easy for a woman to say that they don't feel that having the upper hand here has given them any privilege... but if she were a man with similar levels of hotness and game, the results would be drastically different. I guess it's not easy to see when you're sitting in a body with a vagina. | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? " Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. | |||
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"A woman who is not in control - of her own feelings and ego - is likely to find her experiences on the site detrimental to her self-esteem IMO. " Well said | |||
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" 1) Men get that ghosting / crap messages / getting let down also. Those arent female-only issues. They DO have much more opportunity to get meets though as they will get a lot more responses. I never said it doesn't happen to men of course it does but of women have all the control as some claim they do it wouldn't be happening to them was my point. And yes women have more opportunities to get meets but a lot of those offers are from people they have no interest in so it's not really going to happen. 2) More attention IS more control. Men feel a loss of power because they feel ignored. Their power is reduced here over what they are used to. More attention is not more control it's a load of fake and false attention in the hope that the woman will believe all the smoke blown up her arse and will drop her knickers for sex. A lot of men on here make zero effort with their profiles then moan because women aren't gagging to fuck them. Plenty of men on here do very well on here. Because they use common sense and realise it takes more than the generic 'you're so wonderful and unique and better than other women on here 'messages to actually get meets off here. 3) Some women do believe they have more power here. That's because they genuinely do. It doesn't need to be as strong as "do you not know who I am". Simply owning a vagina and being in a minority gives power. It's easy for a woman to say that they don't feel that having the upper hand here has given them any privilege... but if she were a man with similar levels of hotness and game, the results would be drastically different. I guess it's not easy to see when you're sitting in a body with a vagina. I see exactly how more popular women are on here and how no matter how nasty some can be they will still be told they are right and wonderful.That brings me back to the whole blowing smoke up their arses point though. Of course women can get meets easier on here.It doesn't mean they can get meets with who they want to meet though. It doesn't mean they can make someone chat if they don't want to.They do not rule or control the site. " | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are." I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. | |||
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"I'm definitely "hotter" and more in demand here than I ever was off-site. This doesn't make me "powerful", it's simply a reflection of the fact that men are considerably less circumspect when seeking an available vagina as opposed to someone they want to introduce to their friends." Yes..l totally agree with your point, absolutely...went to PM you but only site supporters.. anyway you hit the nail on the head with what you said.. they'll fuck certain women but won't..or don't ..ever want to be seen with them | |||
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"I'm definitely "hotter" and more in demand here than I ever was off-site. This doesn't make me "powerful", it's simply a reflection of the fact that men are considerably less circumspect when seeking an available vagina as opposed to someone they want to introduce to their friends." What are your friends like | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. " I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . | |||
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"Well probably what they meant by control was that woman hold all the cards regarding if wen get to shag them or not , the mensee the profile and it’s Everything he wants so goes for it but then gets rejected or deleted unread when he has everything she wants but no interaction has happened. Then just gets peeved. " Yup..they hold all the cards. | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will ...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time ." That's simply not true. I've turned down several opportunities after coffee meets and at parties, and I'm nothing special. "a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will" ..but same goes for a woman right? He needs to agree to sex also. I don't buy this idea that men are permitted to have sex by the woman. It's a joining together of two people equally. | |||
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"There is one way in which women hold more power on fab than men and this applies to couples as well to a slightly lesser extent. Women get away with saying and doing things on here that men just don’t. For example, women playing away from home don’t get lambasted the way men playing away from home do. Women can be nasty on here with less consequences (in general) than a man doing the same thing. With regards to power over choices, everyone has a choice to make when it comes to who they meet so in that regard, there is no power imbalance. " I actually agree with this whole heartily, there isn’t control one side or the other. But don’t beleive that is how everyone sees it. | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will ...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . That's simply not true. I've turned down several opportunities after coffee meets and at parties, and I'm nothing special. "a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will" ..but same goes for a woman right? He needs to agree to sex also. I don't buy this idea that men are permitted to have sex by the woman. It's a joining together of two people equally. " You turned them down simply because you were not interested.. thats not what l was saying..l just said if a guy wants to get laid he only does so if the woman decides so ..your situation is not what l was talking about ..you didn't have sex with those people simply because you were not interested... What l am saying is if a guy is interested in having sex with a woman it only happens if the woman wants to ..both have to be interested..a guy can be ..but it only happens if the woman is too...in your case you weren't...if you were then so would the woman have to be ..you could want to get laid but it would only happen if she was interested ...but to answer the OP's question l think women on such sites have control. | |||
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"There is one way in which women hold more power on fab than men and this applies to couples as well to a slightly lesser extent. Women get away with saying and doing things on here that men just don’t. For example, women playing away from home don’t get lambasted the way men playing away from home do. Women can be nasty on here with less consequences (in general) than a man doing the same thing. With regards to power over choices, everyone has a choice to make when it comes to who they meet so in that regard, there is no power imbalance. " | |||
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"Well probably what they meant by control was that woman hold all the cards regarding if wen get to shag them or not , the mensee the profile and it’s Everything he wants so goes for it but then gets rejected or deleted unread when he has everything she wants but no interaction has happened. Then just gets peeved. " But obviously he DOESN'T have everything she wants. Attraction and compatibility is not simply a tick box exercise. I'll say it again. Only having sex with people you REALLY want to is not a power imbalance. It's almost blaming women for (some) men's inability to hold out for what they really want rather than just getting their end away with whoever will say yes. Men have that same power. It's not women's fault that they choose to not exercise it | |||
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"Women aren't unique in having standards. Men do too... but it's easier to be selective when you have a lot of choice. Men generally choose from a smaller number of options. When you get to pick that gives you power. When you get 1 reply from 100 messages you've got no power few choices. I check my privilege daily as a man. I feel its OK to say it as it is when I see it elsewhere." | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time ." Your men will never refuse comment is bull. I've been here 6 years and I've said no at least twice as many times as I've said yes and any man with an ounce of self respect will do likewise. | |||
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"Well probably what they meant by control was that woman hold all the cards regarding if wen get to shag them or not , the mensee the profile and it’s Everything he wants so goes for it but then gets rejected or deleted unread when he has everything she wants but no interaction has happened. Then just gets peeved. But obviously he DOESN'T have everything she wants. Attraction and compatibility is not simply a tick box exercise. I'll say it again. Only having sex with people you REALLY want to is not a power imbalance. It's almost blaming women for (some) men's inability to hold out for what they really want rather than just getting their end away with whoever will say yes. Men have that same power. It's not women's fault that they choose to not exercise it " | |||
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"There is one way in which women hold more power on fab than men and this applies to couples as well to a slightly lesser extent. Women get away with saying and doing things on here that men just don’t. For example, women playing away from home don’t get lambasted the way men playing away from home do. Women can be nasty on here with less consequences (in general) than a man doing the same thing. With regards to power over choices, everyone has a choice to make when it comes to who they meet so in that regard, there is no power imbalance. " Not wrong | |||
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"Some people, both male and female have the power to destroy a guys Fab career in one fell swoop. So yes, some people have a lot of power here." True , a man can be super confident and a few knocks backs can knock it , have to be in the right mindset | |||
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"The men-women ratio puts us in an advantage position in terms of choice. Some make use of this an turn their preference into musts. Also as a women if you crave attention, fancy some arse licking or simply need a cheer up boost, it's easily to come by here. Unfortunately it also comes with pitfalls, it can distort heads quickly and for some it can be even unhealthy. However when it comes to meeting itself, it's equal, it needs the consent of both sides and the same sets of possibilities/rules applies for all involved. May the pussy power guide you. " | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? " I don't think it's a matter of control but rather a case of supply and demand meaning that you ladies have more choice to sort the wheat from the chaff. Some people could see that as control I suppose. | |||
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"The men-women ratio puts us in an advantage position in terms of choice. Some make use of this an turn their preference into musts. Also as a women if you crave attention, fancy some arse licking or simply need a cheer up boost, it's easily to come by here. Unfortunately it also comes with pitfalls, it can distort heads quickly and for some it can be even unhealthy. However when it comes to meeting itself, it's equal, it needs the consent of both sides and the same sets of possibilities/rules applies for all involved. May the pussy power guide you. " Is this a Yoda Quote DH | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Your men will never refuse comment is bull. I've been here 6 years and I've said no at least twice as many times as I've said yes and any man with an ounce of self respect will do likewise. " Ahhh ..read the whole thing not just what you want to read ..a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..if he's not interested he won't ..but what l said is if he's interested the woman has to be interested as well ..you said no simply because you weren't interested .. anyone that isn't interested isn't interested ..man or woman ..the question asked was do women have control on sites..in my opinion they do..l simply said a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..l may not have put the word interested down but l don't have to spell everything out here ..or do l ? .. interest is the key word ..from both sides ..you didn't have any interest so you didn't. It's really that simple...sorry l didn't spell it out for you ...l will the next time . | |||
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"I’d say the balance of power is tipped in women’s favour however it takes two to tango If you’re a woman who wants a high quantity of low quality males, then fabs your oyster If you want someone off the top shelf then the normal rules apply" What is top shelf for some, might be low grade to others and the other way around. | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? " Just in case people go astray on this thread that's the question that was asked ..it has nothing to do with meeting or anything else ..it's a case of agreeing or not agreeing. | |||
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"The men-women ratio puts us in an advantage position in terms of choice. Some make use of this an turn their preference into musts. Also as a women if you crave attention, fancy some arse licking or simply need a cheer up boost, it's easily to come by here. Unfortunately it also comes with pitfalls, it can distort heads quickly and for some it can be even unhealthy. However when it comes to meeting itself, it's equal, it needs the consent of both sides and the same sets of possibilities/rules applies for all involved. May the pussy power guide you. Is this a Yoda Quote DH " Close, it's a Yaddle quote. | |||
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"The men-women ratio puts us in an advantage position in terms of choice. Some make use of this an turn their preference into musts. Also as a women if you crave attention, fancy some arse licking or simply need a cheer up boost, it's easily to come by here. Unfortunately it also comes with pitfalls, it can distort heads quickly and for some it can be even unhealthy. However when it comes to meeting itself, it's equal, it needs the consent of both sides and the same sets of possibilities/rules applies for all involved. May the pussy power guide you. Is this a Yoda Quote DH Close, it's a Yaddle quote. " Yaddle? You are SO attractive to me right now | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Just in case people go astray on this thread that's the question that was asked ..it has nothing to do with meeting or anything else ..it's a case of agreeing or not agreeing. " Threads go anywhere and everywhere and have a life of their own .... | |||
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"When it finally dawned on me that she is the BOSS My life got a whole lot easier and simpler. Don't fight it lads just give up your free will because it will only land you in trouble. Three golden rules to live by. SHE IS RIGHT SHE IS THE BOSS AND FINALLY SHE IS ALWAYS RIGHT. Now relax and enjoy your life in peace. " But what if she's wrong | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Your men will never refuse comment is bull. I've been here 6 years and I've said no at least twice as many times as I've said yes and any man with an ounce of self respect will do likewise. Ahhh ..read the whole thing not just what you want to read ..a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..if he's not interested he won't ..but what l said is if he's interested the woman has to be interested as well ..you said no simply because you weren't interested .. anyone that isn't interested isn't interested ..man or woman ..the question asked was do women have control on sites..in my opinion they do..l simply said a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..l may not have put the word interested down but l don't have to spell everything out here ..or do l ? .. interest is the key word ..from both sides ..you didn't have any interest so you didn't. It's really that simple...sorry l didn't spell it out for you ...l will the next time . " You're spinning in circles with what you are saying. The phrase you used was that that a guy will never refuse sex. That implies that he is offered it in the first place which he obviously wouldn't be if the woman wasn't interested. You can't refuse something that isn't offered. Anyone saying no does so because they aren't interested. Are you suggesting that women have power because they can refuse sex even when they are interested? Women might have greater choice because of numbers but not all available choices are created equal. | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Your men will never refuse comment is bull. I've been here 6 years and I've said no at least twice as many times as I've said yes and any man with an ounce of self respect will do likewise. Ahhh ..read the whole thing not just what you want to read ..a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..if he's not interested he won't ..but what l said is if he's interested the woman has to be interested as well ..you said no simply because you weren't interested .. anyone that isn't interested isn't interested ..man or woman ..the question asked was do women have control on sites..in my opinion they do..l simply said a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..l may not have put the word interested down but l don't have to spell everything out here ..or do l ? .. interest is the key word ..from both sides ..you didn't have any interest so you didn't. It's really that simple...sorry l didn't spell it out for you ...l will the next time . " So you say both have to be interested...why then do you see women as having control? | |||
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"The men-women ratio puts us in an advantage position in terms of choice. Some make use of this an turn their preference into musts. Also as a women if you crave attention, fancy some arse licking or simply need a cheer up boost, it's easily to come by here. Unfortunately it also comes with pitfalls, it can distort heads quickly and for some it can be even unhealthy. However when it comes to meeting itself, it's equal, it needs the consent of both sides and the same sets of possibilities/rules applies for all involved. May the pussy power guide you. Is this a Yoda Quote DH Close, it's a Yaddle quote. Yaddle? You are SO attractive to me right now " Well in fairness Yaddle was a force to be reckoned with (pun intended ) | |||
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"Yes men can choose to not reply but they might wait a long time for another message if they do. I see loads of women's profiles saying they cannot get through the 100s of messages they get. That's never the case with men. I'd consider myself to be a decent looking, well kept, clean guy but without a verification it's very difficult to get meets or even chats." A lot of women won't even reply to blank profiles or have them blocked | |||
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"Yes men can choose to not reply but they might wait a long time for another message if they do. I see loads of women's profiles saying they cannot get through the 100s of messages they get. That's never the case with men. I'd consider myself to be a decent looking, well kept, clean guy but without a verification it's very difficult to get meets or even chats." You are slap bang in the midlands so you can travel to any social anywhere and drive home afterwards. Plenty of socials for unverifieds if you keep an eye on the forums. Don't put all your eggs in one basket by depending on private messaging, especially with a silhouette for a profile picture, which almost guarantees that your messages won't even get opened. | |||
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"Yes men can choose to not reply but they might wait a long time for another message if they do. I see loads of women's profiles saying they cannot get through the 100s of messages they get. That's never the case with men. I'd consider myself to be a decent looking, well kept, clean guy but without a verification it's very difficult to get meets or even chats. You are slap bang in the midlands so you can travel to any social anywhere and drive home afterwards. Plenty of socials for unverifieds if you keep an eye on the forums. Don't put all your eggs in one basket by depending on private messaging, especially with a silhouette for a profile picture, which almost guarantees that your messages won't even get opened." Appreciate the advice. Thanks | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Your men will never refuse comment is bull. I've been here 6 years and I've said no at least twice as many times as I've said yes and any man with an ounce of self respect will do likewise. Ahhh ..read the whole thing not just what you want to read ..a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..if he's not interested he won't ..but what l said is if he's interested the woman has to be interested as well ..you said no simply because you weren't interested .. anyone that isn't interested isn't interested ..man or woman ..the question asked was do women have control on sites..in my opinion they do..l simply said a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..l may not have put the word interested down but l don't have to spell everything out here ..or do l ? .. interest is the key word ..from both sides ..you didn't have any interest so you didn't. It's really that simple...sorry l didn't spell it out for you ...l will the next time . You're spinning in circles with what you are saying. The phrase you used was that that a guy will never refuse sex. That implies that he is offered it in the first place which he obviously wouldn't be if the woman wasn't interested. You can't refuse something that isn't offered. Anyone saying no does so because they aren't interested. Are you suggesting that women have power because they can refuse sex even when they are interested? Women might have greater choice because of numbers but not all available choices are created equal. " Ahh here .. to use the quote in Braveheart.." just answer the f**king question" that the OP asked .. agree or disagree... EVERYONE knows that people only f**k if both parties are interested... apologies that it wasn't spelt out for you.. ..you refused because you weren't interested.. EVERYONE knows that scenario...that wasn't what was asked..guys won't ever refuse sex IF both parties are interested..it's not gonna happen if both are not interested..this place and the real world is full of uninterested parties when they meet..for some reason or another one party is not interested.. again , lm sorry it wasn't spelt out for you .. give your opinion on what the OP asked and don't be going on about something else . | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Your men will never refuse comment is bull. I've been here 6 years and I've said no at least twice as many times as I've said yes and any man with an ounce of self respect will do likewise. Ahhh ..read the whole thing not just what you want to read ..a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..if he's not interested he won't ..but what l said is if he's interested the woman has to be interested as well ..you said no simply because you weren't interested .. anyone that isn't interested isn't interested ..man or woman ..the question asked was do women have control on sites..in my opinion they do..l simply said a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..l may not have put the word interested down but l don't have to spell everything out here ..or do l ? .. interest is the key word ..from both sides ..you didn't have any interest so you didn't. It's really that simple...sorry l didn't spell it out for you ...l will the next time . You're spinning in circles with what you are saying. The phrase you used was that that a guy will never refuse sex. That implies that he is offered it in the first place which he obviously wouldn't be if the woman wasn't interested. You can't refuse something that isn't offered. Anyone saying no does so because they aren't interested. Are you suggesting that women have power because they can refuse sex even when they are interested? Women might have greater choice because of numbers but not all available choices are created equal. Ahh here .. to use the quote in Braveheart.." just answer the f**king question" that the OP asked .. agree or disagree... EVERYONE knows that people only f**k if both parties are interested... apologies that it wasn't spelt out for you.. ..you refused because you weren't interested.. EVERYONE knows that scenario...that wasn't what was asked..guys won't ever refuse sex IF both parties are interested..it's not gonna happen if both are not interested..this place and the real world is full of uninterested parties when they meet..for some reason or another one party is not interested.. again , lm sorry it wasn't spelt out for you .. give your opinion on what the OP asked and don't be going on about something else . " Wow | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Your men will never refuse comment is bull. I've been here 6 years and I've said no at least twice as many times as I've said yes and any man with an ounce of self respect will do likewise. Ahhh ..read the whole thing not just what you want to read ..a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..if he's not interested he won't ..but what l said is if he's interested the woman has to be interested as well ..you said no simply because you weren't interested .. anyone that isn't interested isn't interested ..man or woman ..the question asked was do women have control on sites..in my opinion they do..l simply said a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..l may not have put the word interested down but l don't have to spell everything out here ..or do l ? .. interest is the key word ..from both sides ..you didn't have any interest so you didn't. It's really that simple...sorry l didn't spell it out for you ...l will the next time . You're spinning in circles with what you are saying. The phrase you used was that that a guy will never refuse sex. That implies that he is offered it in the first place which he obviously wouldn't be if the woman wasn't interested. You can't refuse something that isn't offered. Anyone saying no does so because they aren't interested. Are you suggesting that women have power because they can refuse sex even when they are interested? Women might have greater choice because of numbers but not all available choices are created equal. Ahh here .. to use the quote in Braveheart.." just answer the f**king question" that the OP asked .. agree or disagree... EVERYONE knows that people only f**k if both parties are interested... apologies that it wasn't spelt out for you.. ..you refused because you weren't interested.. EVERYONE knows that scenario...that wasn't what was asked..guys won't ever refuse sex IF both parties are interested..it's not gonna happen if both are not interested..this place and the real world is full of uninterested parties when they meet..for some reason or another one party is not interested.. again , lm sorry it wasn't spelt out for you .. give your opinion on what the OP asked and don't be going on about something else . " I already gave my opinion on what the op asked. I was just confused by your rambling. | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Your men will never refuse comment is bull. I've been here 6 years and I've said no at least twice as many times as I've said yes and any man with an ounce of self respect will do likewise. Ahhh ..read the whole thing not just what you want to read ..a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..if he's not interested he won't ..but what l said is if he's interested the woman has to be interested as well ..you said no simply because you weren't interested .. anyone that isn't interested isn't interested ..man or woman ..the question asked was do women have control on sites..in my opinion they do..l simply said a guy won't refuse sex if he's interested ..l may not have put the word interested down but l don't have to spell everything out here ..or do l ? .. interest is the key word ..from both sides ..you didn't have any interest so you didn't. It's really that simple...sorry l didn't spell it out for you ...l will the next time . You're spinning in circles with what you are saying. The phrase you used was that that a guy will never refuse sex. That implies that he is offered it in the first place which he obviously wouldn't be if the woman wasn't interested. You can't refuse something that isn't offered. Anyone saying no does so because they aren't interested. Are you suggesting that women have power because they can refuse sex even when they are interested? Women might have greater choice because of numbers but not all available choices are created equal. Ahh here .. to use the quote in Braveheart.." just answer the f**king question" that the OP asked .. agree or disagree... EVERYONE knows that people only f**k if both parties are interested... apologies that it wasn't spelt out for you.. ..you refused because you weren't interested.. EVERYONE knows that scenario...that wasn't what was asked..guys won't ever refuse sex IF both parties are interested..it's not gonna happen if both are not interested..this place and the real world is full of uninterested parties when they meet..for some reason or another one party is not interested.. again , lm sorry it wasn't spelt out for you .. give your opinion on what the OP asked and don't be going on about something else . I already gave my opinion on what the op asked. I was just confused by your rambling. " What's that sound ?? It's the sound of me parking this up,..good night. . | |||
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"No I absolutely do not agree. In terms of options, I do believe women have more (depending on their standards). But based on my experience, men are just as in control as women This for me is true, women don’t have control here, outside fab, men hold most of the senior position in work with the best paid salaries. It’s a male dominated world for centuries and they don’t like giving up that power. On Fab cause they are out numbered they seem that as not in control but as soon as they meet or start chatting they try try take that control back! Take the added factor to why any individual or couple are on here, they are looking to live a fantasy that they haven’t had in their day to day lives and the control element goes out the window. They start chatting to someone who is looking for something completely different and that connection is lost. For me it’s not about control, it’s miscommunication. " I agree with most of this I would add , wtf is wrong with you if you think sex is about control , and do you need some regression therapy??? | |||
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"No I don't believe women are in control on here. I believe they get more attention and messages than most men do. But that does not equate control it's just means more people blow smoke up their asses. But seeing the amount of forum posts from women saying how much they get crappy messages,ghosted, let down etc then no they are not anymore in control than anyone else. Sure there are things you can do to help your fab journey and cut down on messages etc but it doesn't give you more control over all on here. And yes there are some women (and men for that matter)who believe that they do have power on here. I mean quite a few of us I'm sure have had the do you not know who I am message etc at some point off someone. It just makes me laugh as I don't care who they are or what power they believe they yield on here and it certainly has never made me want to interact or meet someone because of a message like that it and funnily enough it hasn't affected my fab journey either. 1) Men get that ghosting / crap messages / getting let down also. Those arent female-only issues. They DO have much more opportunity to get meets though as they will get a lot more responses. 2) More attention IS more control. Men feel a loss of power because they feel ignored. Their power is reduced here over what they are used to. 3) Some women do believe they have more power here. That's because they genuinely do. It doesn't need to be as strong as "do you not know who I am". Simply owning a vagina and being in a minority gives power. It's easy for a woman to say that they don't feel that having the upper hand here has given them any privilege... but if she were a man with similar levels of hotness and game, the results would be drastically different. I guess it's not easy to see when you're sitting in a body with a vagina. " have to agree with most of this too , and again add .... wtf is wrong with people who need to have power over eachother... sort your shit out | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time ." Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo " Ahh ..a guy who has to have everything spelt out for him ..the word interested wasn't there ...for anything to happen both the guy and the girl have to be interested..in my opinion a guy will never refuse sex if both are Interested..l didn't think l'd have to spell it out but apparently l do | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo Ahh ..a guy who has to have everything spelt out for him ..the word interested wasn't there ...for anything to happen both the guy and the girl have to be interested..in my opinion a guy will never refuse sex if both are Interested..l didn't think l'd have to spell it out but apparently l do " I'll ask the question again then. How does that make guys different from women then? Do women say no to sex even when both are interested? Is that where they are in control? | |||
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"Women don't have ALL the power and TOTAL control... they just have more here than the men, which many men are uncomfortable with as it's contrary to their life experience. Scale it down and imagine there are 5 women and 150 men (30:1) in a room. All there for sex. Who is going to have the control? Who is going to have the power to decide. Rocket science it ain't." It just means that women have more choice. If all the women in that room are minging, reeking of BO, chain smoking, d*unk as a skunk, then 150 men can still say, no thanks and are still in control over the choices they've been given even if those minging ladies would have said yes to one or more of those men. It's power of choice but this is restricted by the boundaries and restrictions of those on the opposite side of the fence. The side of the fence the men are on, is the side which comes with less choices and these choices are further restricted by the boundaries the women set. Every man is still in control over the choices he is given - just because there are x amount of women on Fab, doesn't mean that all these choices are available. The same goes for women - they just have a bigger pot of choice to sift through. Maybe that causes some men to "lower their standards" because they want the ride, are desperate. Not much of a man then, in my humble opinion. It certainly causes frustration as we can see from the numerous threads started and the abuse dished out. | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo Ahh ..a guy who has to have everything spelt out for him ..the word interested wasn't there ...for anything to happen both the guy and the girl have to be interested..in my opinion a guy will never refuse sex if both are Interested..l didn't think l'd have to spell it out but apparently l do I'll ask the question again then. How does that make guys different from women then? Do women say no to sex even when both are interested? Is that where they are in control? " That's 3 question's | |||
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"Women don't have ALL the power and TOTAL control... they just have more here than the men, which many men are uncomfortable with as it's contrary to their life experience. Scale it down and imagine there are 5 women and 150 men (30:1) in a room. All there for sex. Who is going to have the control? Who is going to have the power to decide. Rocket science it ain't. It just means that women have more choice. If all the women in that room are minging, reeking of BO, chain smoking, d*unk as a skunk, then 150 men can still say, no thanks and are still in control over the choices they've been given even if those minging ladies would have said yes to one or more of those men. It's power of choice but this is restricted by the boundaries and restrictions of those on the opposite side of the fence. The side of the fence the men are on, is the side which comes with less choices and these choices are further restricted by the boundaries the women set. Every man is still in control over the choices he is given - just because there are x amount of women on Fab, doesn't mean that all these choices are available. The same goes for women - they just have a bigger pot of choice to sift through. Maybe that causes some men to "lower their standards" because they want the ride, are desperate. Not much of a man then, in my humble opinion. It certainly causes frustration as we can see from the numerous threads started and the abuse dished out. " So you say choice rather than control?? | |||
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"Women don't have ALL the power and TOTAL control... they just have more here than the men, which many men are uncomfortable with as it's contrary to their life experience. Scale it down and imagine there are 5 women and 150 men (30:1) in a room. All there for sex. Who is going to have the control? Who is going to have the power to decide. Rocket science it ain't. It just means that women have more choice. If all the women in that room are minging, reeking of BO, chain smoking, d*unk as a skunk, then 150 men can still say, no thanks and are still in control over the choices they've been given even if those minging ladies would have said yes to one or more of those men. It's power of choice but this is restricted by the boundaries and restrictions of those on the opposite side of the fence. The side of the fence the men are on, is the side which comes with less choices and these choices are further restricted by the boundaries the women set. Every man is still in control over the choices he is given - just because there are x amount of women on Fab, doesn't mean that all these choices are available. The same goes for women - they just have a bigger pot of choice to sift through. Maybe that causes some men to "lower their standards" because they want the ride, are desperate. Not much of a man then, in my humble opinion. It certainly causes frustration as we can see from the numerous threads started and the abuse dished out. " Good points... but the 5 women in the room have that power to dictate how the night in that room goes for the majority of the men. Only a small number of those men will be chosen. Most will be disappointed. It's a lot less likely that she will be disappointed. She has a lot more control over the room and what happens than the men individually do. Of course each individual man has the ability to say no thanks... but the numbers are SO skewed that she can just say OK and move on the 149 others to choose from, while he will likely go off frustrated and have an anger-wank in the corner. | |||
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"Haven't even mentioned the bi men yet " Hahaha. They can happily go fuck each other on the other side of the room. | |||
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"Women don't have ALL the power and TOTAL control... they just have more here than the men, which many men are uncomfortable with as it's contrary to their life experience. Scale it down and imagine there are 5 women and 150 men (30:1) in a room. All there for sex. Who is going to have the control? Who is going to have the power to decide. Rocket science it ain't. It just means that women have more choice. If all the women in that room are minging, reeking of BO, chain smoking, d*unk as a skunk, then 150 men can still say, no thanks and are still in control over the choices they've been given even if those minging ladies would have said yes to one or more of those men. It's power of choice but this is restricted by the boundaries and restrictions of those on the opposite side of the fence. The side of the fence the men are on, is the side which comes with less choices and these choices are further restricted by the boundaries the women set. Every man is still in control over the choices he is given - just because there are x amount of women on Fab, doesn't mean that all these choices are available. The same goes for women - they just have a bigger pot of choice to sift through. Maybe that causes some men to "lower their standards" because they want the ride, are desperate. Not much of a man then, in my humble opinion. It certainly causes frustration as we can see from the numerous threads started and the abuse dished out. " In fainess it's understandable that some frustration kicks in at some stage, when you live of breadcrumbs despite all the good efforts. And you can argue what's harder to deal with: too much attention or none. Neither of the two entitles you to give someone abuse, yet the mud flinging happens in both directions. What goes around comes around. | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo Ahh ..a guy who has to have everything spelt out for him ..the word interested wasn't there ...for anything to happen both the guy and the girl have to be interested..in my opinion a guy will never refuse sex if both are Interested..l didn't think l'd have to spell it out but apparently l do " still a sucky stereo type ... I have refused sex I'm interested in , cause it wasn't right for different reasons ... | |||
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"My personal opinion is yes, the ladies are in control because its the men who do the chasing. The women of Fab are the gatekeepers to disneyland. There's nothing wrong with this, it's how it should be. The idea of being sexually assaulted on a date seems kinky to most guys but for a woman, it's not so trivial. It's unfortunate that there are creepy, nasty guys out there, on here but I'd rather see the girls stay safe." The only thing I am in control of is the block button | |||
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"Everyone thinks their in control both couple and singles when the reality is the fakes are in control!!! It's the fakes that stop people meeting. " Surely that's contradictory statement? | |||
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"Everyone thinks their in control both couple and singles when the reality is the fakes are in control!!! It's the fakes that stop people meeting. " Ahh the Fakes .. they have complete control..they do make things so difficult for people here..it's like they're on a mission or something. | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo Ahh ..a guy who has to have everything spelt out for him ..the word interested wasn't there ...for anything to happen both the guy and the girl have to be interested..in my opinion a guy will never refuse sex if both are Interested..l didn't think l'd have to spell it out but apparently l do still a sucky stereo type ... I have refused sex I'm interested in , cause it wasn't right for different reasons ... " A sucky stereo type ?? Ahh you're not really..don't think like that .if it wasn't right it wasn't right ..it's ok ..am sure you felt it was the right thing to do . | |||
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"Women don't have ALL the power and TOTAL control... they just have more here than the men, which many men are uncomfortable with as it's contrary to their life experience. Scale it down and imagine there are 5 women and 150 men (30:1) in a room. All there for sex. Who is going to have the control? Who is going to have the power to decide. Rocket science it ain't. It just means that women have more choice. If all the women in that room are minging, reeking of BO, chain smoking, d*unk as a skunk, then 150 men can still say, no thanks and are still in control over the choices they've been given even if those minging ladies would have said yes to one or more of those men. It's power of choice but this is restricted by the boundaries and restrictions of those on the opposite side of the fence. The side of the fence the men are on, is the side which comes with less choices and these choices are further restricted by the boundaries the women set. Every man is still in control over the choices he is given - just because there are x amount of women on Fab, doesn't mean that all these choices are available. The same goes for women - they just have a bigger pot of choice to sift through. Maybe that causes some men to "lower their standards" because they want the ride, are desperate. Not much of a man then, in my humble opinion. It certainly causes frustration as we can see from the numerous threads started and the abuse dished out. Good points... but the 5 women in the room have that power to dictate how the night in that room goes for the majority of the men. Only a small number of those men will be chosen. Most will be disappointed. It's a lot less likely that she will be disappointed. She has a lot more control over the room and what happens than the men individually do. Of course each individual man has the ability to say no thanks... but the numbers are SO skewed that she can just say OK and move on the 149 others to choose from, while he will likely go off frustrated and have an anger-wank in the corner." If the majority of those men have any integrity, they wouldn't touch any of those minging women and go home. Anger wanks have their place | |||
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"Everyone thinks their in control both couple and singles when the reality is the fakes are in control!!! It's the fakes that stop people meeting. " The fakes who lead you on while only looking for wank material or pics for their collection etc just make those looking to meet more cautious. | |||
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"Women don't have ALL the power and TOTAL control... they just have more here than the men, which many men are uncomfortable with as it's contrary to their life experience. Scale it down and imagine there are 5 women and 150 men (30:1) in a room. All there for sex. Who is going to have the control? Who is going to have the power to decide. Rocket science it ain't. It just means that women have more choice. If all the women in that room are minging, reeking of BO, chain smoking, d*unk as a skunk, then 150 men can still say, no thanks and are still in control over the choices they've been given even if those minging ladies would have said yes to one or more of those men. It's power of choice but this is restricted by the boundaries and restrictions of those on the opposite side of the fence. The side of the fence the men are on, is the side which comes with less choices and these choices are further restricted by the boundaries the women set. Every man is still in control over the choices he is given - just because there are x amount of women on Fab, doesn't mean that all these choices are available. The same goes for women - they just have a bigger pot of choice to sift through. Maybe that causes some men to "lower their standards" because they want the ride, are desperate. Not much of a man then, in my humble opinion. It certainly causes frustration as we can see from the numerous threads started and the abuse dished out. In fainess it's understandable that some frustration kicks in at some stage, when you live of breadcrumbs despite all the good efforts. And you can argue what's harder to deal with: too much attention or none. Neither of the two entitles you to give someone abuse, yet the mud flinging happens in both directions. What goes around comes around. " | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo Ahh ..a guy who has to have everything spelt out for him ..the word interested wasn't there ...for anything to happen both the guy and the girl have to be interested..in my opinion a guy will never refuse sex if both are Interested..l didn't think l'd have to spell it out but apparently l do still a sucky stereo type ... I have refused sex I'm interested in , cause it wasn't right for different reasons ... A sucky stereo type ?? Ahh you're not really..don't think like that .if it wasn't right it wasn't right ..it's ok ..am sure you felt it was the right thing to do ." The sucky bit , is now we know you would have weather it was right or not ,,"cause your interested " | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo Ahh ..a guy who has to have everything spelt out for him ..the word interested wasn't there ...for anything to happen both the guy and the girl have to be interested..in my opinion a guy will never refuse sex if both are Interested..l didn't think l'd have to spell it out but apparently l do still a sucky stereo type ... I have refused sex I'm interested in , cause it wasn't right for different reasons ... A sucky stereo type ?? Ahh you're not really..don't think like that .if it wasn't right it wasn't right ..it's ok ..am sure you felt it was the right thing to do . The sucky bit , is now we know you would have weather it was right or not ,,"cause your interested " " Oh boy ...I'll say it for the last time..so you'll understand... .. BOTH have to be interested..if not both interested .. nothing happens ..The End. | |||
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"I think there’s a big difference between control and choice, I don’t think it’s correct to say men will never refuse sex. Just because someone had more of a choice within their preferences doesn’t mean they have more control, they might have control over who they want to meet but not over who wants to meet them." | |||
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"I think there’s a big difference between control and choice, I don’t think it’s correct to say men will never refuse sex. Just because someone had more of a choice within their preferences doesn’t mean they have more control, they might have control over who they want to meet but not over who wants to meet them." I think that sums it up well….. | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo Ahh ..a guy who has to have everything spelt out for him ..the word interested wasn't there ...for anything to happen both the guy and the girl have to be interested..in my opinion a guy will never refuse sex if both are Interested..l didn't think l'd have to spell it out but apparently l do still a sucky stereo type ... I have refused sex I'm interested in , cause it wasn't right for different reasons ... A sucky stereo type ?? Ahh you're not really..don't think like that .if it wasn't right it wasn't right ..it's ok ..am sure you felt it was the right thing to do . The sucky bit , is now we know you would have weather it was right or not ,,"cause your interested " Oh boy ...I'll say it for the last time..so you'll understand... .. BOTH have to be interested..if not both interested .. nothing happens ..The End." Right sure maybe I'll have to spell it out for you too. Bold people can be interested and it still doesn't have to happen and there are lots of circumstances where both people are interested and a man will still refuse. Clearly you don't believe there is any situation where a man would refuse if both parties are interested. What I'm saying is don't tar us all with that 1 s***** brush. | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo Ahh ..a guy who has to have everything spelt out for him ..the word interested wasn't there ...for anything to happen both the guy and the girl have to be interested..in my opinion a guy will never refuse sex if both are Interested..l didn't think l'd have to spell it out but apparently l do still a sucky stereo type ... I have refused sex I'm interested in , cause it wasn't right for different reasons ... A sucky stereo type ?? Ahh you're not really..don't think like that .if it wasn't right it wasn't right ..it's ok ..am sure you felt it was the right thing to do . The sucky bit , is now we know you would have weather it was right or not ,,"cause your interested " Oh boy ...I'll say it for the last time..so you'll understand... .. BOTH have to be interested..if not both interested .. nothing happens ..The End. Right sure maybe I'll have to spell it out for you too. Bold people can be interested and it still doesn't have to happen and there are lots of circumstances where both people are interested and a man will still refuse. Clearly you don't believe there is any situation where a man would refuse if both parties are interested. What I'm saying is don't tar us all with that 1 s***** brush. " | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo Ahh ..a guy who has to have everything spelt out for him ..the word interested wasn't there ...for anything to happen both the guy and the girl have to be interested..in my opinion a guy will never refuse sex if both are Interested..l didn't think l'd have to spell it out but apparently l do still a sucky stereo type ... I have refused sex I'm interested in , cause it wasn't right for different reasons ... A sucky stereo type ?? Ahh you're not really..don't think like that .if it wasn't right it wasn't right ..it's ok ..am sure you felt it was the right thing to do . The sucky bit , is now we know you would have weather it was right or not ,,"cause your interested " Oh boy ...I'll say it for the last time..so you'll understand... .. BOTH have to be interested..if not both interested .. nothing happens ..The End. Right sure maybe I'll have to spell it out for you too. Bold people can be interested and it still doesn't have to happen and there are lots of circumstances where both people are interested and a man will still refuse. Clearly you don't believe there is any situation where a man would refuse if both parties are interested. What I'm saying is don't tar us all with that 1 s***** brush. " So, anyway, FAF? | |||
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" So, anyway, FAF? Is that aimed at anyone posting here? Depends " Is it my turn for the remote yet? | |||
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"I think it's the best looking most attractive, most creative and well written profiles of men women and couples are in 'control' on fab. no different to the real world really Plus good personalities" oh yes personalities for sure but it's hard to find out such personalities until a meet happens. up until a meet it's window shopping really | |||
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"Following on from a comment on another thread where a comment was made "girls on dating/riding sites are in control " Do you agree with this? Yup..they are simply because nothing happens here unless a woman decides that it will happen, a guy can try all he wants but it only happens if a woman decides so , it's the same in real life , a guy can try all the different things. Dress up..all the smooth lines ..but nothing.. nothing happens unless the woman decides it will happen, it's like this, a guy can go out wanting to have sex and he might never get it but a woman can decide to have sex at any time and she will , l know there's a lot of people who won't agree but as regards being in control.. women are. I agree with your conclusion, but you got there arseways. Both partners need agreement to sex. Men aren't at a disadvantage because consent exists. They have power because they can select from a wider range due to the surpluses penis. I didn't get anywhere ..As you say .. " arseways " ..men are at a disadvantage..a guy will never refuse sex ..he might want to fuck a woman but nothing happens unless she want to fuck him ..to me ..and it's only my opinion ..that a guy will only get laid if the woman decides he will...so to me ..a woman is in control all the time . Let me just say , your opinion of a guy will never refuse sex , is the shits Imo Ahh ..a guy who has to have everything spelt out for him ..the word interested wasn't there ...for anything to happen both the guy and the girl have to be interested..in my opinion a guy will never refuse sex if both are Interested..l didn't think l'd have to spell it out but apparently l do still a sucky stereo type ... I have refused sex I'm interested in , cause it wasn't right for different reasons ... A sucky stereo type ?? Ahh you're not really..don't think like that .if it wasn't right it wasn't right ..it's ok ..am sure you felt it was the right thing to do . The sucky bit , is now we know you would have weather it was right or not ,,"cause your interested " Oh boy ...I'll say it for the last time..so you'll understand... .. BOTH have to be interested..if not both interested .. nothing happens ..The End. Right sure maybe I'll have to spell it out for you too. Bold people can be interested and it still doesn't have to happen and there are lots of circumstances where both people are interested and a man will still refuse. Clearly you don't believe there is any situation where a man would refuse if both parties are interested. What I'm saying is don't tar us all with that 1 s***** brush. So, anyway, FAF?" You are faf | |||
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