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By *hilabout OP   Man
over a year ago

kilkenny

Whats the view on paul murphy referring to his newborn son as it .doesnt want to refer to him as a boy or girl .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Live and let live kid

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By * la carteCouple
over a year ago

Dublin

I've taken my seat, popcorn in hand...all that's needed is a bag of Maltesers to throw in and a soft drink. Care to join me? It's Bring your own though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You hear the angry clicks of furious iPhone typing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who is Paul Murphy??

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

Whatever I think of what they are doing with their child...its disgusting to see a newborn baby being used to attack his parents

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who is Paul Murphy??"

I pm the op to ask the same question

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

Hes a TD based in Dublin......I hate his politics and hes a champaign socialist but I only argue with him based on that and wouldn't use his child against him as some political commentators have

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man
over a year ago

City Centre, Dublin


"Whatever I think of what they are doing with their child...its disgusting to see a newborn baby being used to attack his parents "

Tbf his choice is in the headline of a puff piece in the Irish times so he’s set his head above the parapet there

I assumed the article was click bait shite so I didn’t bother with it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hes a TD based in Dublin......I hate his politics and hes a champaign socialist but I only argue with him based on that and wouldn't use his child against him as some political commentators have "

That's why I don't know him me n politics don't go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What most refuse to admit is that they are bucking the norms but doing so is a steer.

They say they're being neutral or letting the child become their true self but they suppress some things and prevent others as much as they facilitate certain freedoms of expression.

It's a load of self-indulgent wokery.

With an innocent child at the mercy of it all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're using they not it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

'They' being a general they not these ones in particular.

I don't know this news story itself.

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere


"Whatever I think of what they are doing with their child...its disgusting to see a newborn baby being used to attack his parents

Tbf his choice is in the headline of a puff piece in the Irish times so he’s set his head above the parapet there

I assumed the article was click bait shite so I didn’t bother with it"

He certainly has,but you know what they say...you make all your mistakes on your first.

Some of the comments are directed towards the child by some people......Tusla and stuff like that .....Or how ugly the child will be with him as his dad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The family are not using "it". The family are using the pronoun "they".

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man
over a year ago

City Centre, Dublin


"They're using they not it. "

Jesus Christ this is a grammatical landmine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They're using they not it.

Jesus Christ this is a grammatical landmine "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They're using they not it.

Jesus Christ this is a grammatical landmine "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whatever I think of what they are doing with their child...its disgusting to see a newborn baby being used to attack his parents

Tbf his choice is in the headline of a puff piece in the Irish times so he’s set his head above the parapet there

I assumed the article was click bait shite so I didn’t bother with it

He certainly has,but you know what they say...you make all your mistakes on your first.

Some of the comments are directed towards the child by some people......Tusla and stuff like that .....Or how ugly the child will be with him as his dad "

The awfulness of such comments isn't in doubt, but anyone familiar with the internet - and particularly a politician - must see the folly of exposing one's children on social media

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man
over a year ago

City Centre, Dublin


"Whatever I think of what they are doing with their child...its disgusting to see a newborn baby being used to attack his parents

Tbf his choice is in the headline of a puff piece in the Irish times so he’s set his head above the parapet there

I assumed the article was click bait shite so I didn’t bother with it

He certainly has,but you know what they say...you make all your mistakes on your first.

Some of the comments are directed towards the child by some people......Tusla and stuff like that .....Or how ugly the child will be with him as his dad "

I’ve no social media so I’ve no idea what’s going on, would say he’d cop a fair bit of flak

I do think it’s a bit selfish on his part, he doesn’t want to make a decision for the child on that non issue yet decides for the child to put it in the public eye which is far more harmful and damaging

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whatever I think of what they are doing with their child...its disgusting to see a newborn baby being used to attack his parents

Tbf his choice is in the headline of a puff piece in the Irish times so he’s set his head above the parapet there

I assumed the article was click bait shite so I didn’t bother with it

He certainly has,but you know what they say...you make all your mistakes on your first.

Some of the comments are directed towards the child by some people......Tusla and stuff like that .....Or how ugly the child will be with him as his dad

I’ve no social media so I’ve no idea what’s going on, would say he’d cop a fair bit of flak

I do think it’s a bit selfish on his part, he doesn’t want to make a decision for the child on that non issue yet decides for the child to put it in the public eye which is far more harmful and damaging"

Bingo

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

Paul Murphy

Murphy says if Juniper decides at the age of three that they are a boy “then we’ll say , ‘oh yeah cool, you’re a boy, excellent. And you’re free to change your opinion and you’re free to change your gender identity in the future if you want. We’ll respect that and we’ll change the pronouns that we use. If you say you’re a boy, then great you’re a boy. Or if you say you’re a girl, then great you’re a girl.’ But we don’t want to make that choice for Juniper. That’s for Juniper to discover their own gender identity as opposed to us to assume based on their sex.”

Murphy’s close friends and family are supportive. “I think people understand the gender roles are changing and gender is a more fluid thing than the way people would have historically thought about it. It’s an interesting thing, when you get the cert in the hospital, which says the sex of the baby, it says gender as male or female – when it means sex. It’s wrong. It’s the wrong word. What they mean is sex. They’re talking about their biological characteristics.”

Its from a series of articles about families that famous people have written for The Irish Times and not a news article as such

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

At least try and get your story vaguely correct. He's not calling his baby "it". Talk about failing at the first hurdle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At least try and get your story vaguely correct. He's not calling his baby "it". Talk about failing at the first hurdle "

OP misread the article in faux outrage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this not the compo Paul Murphy and his cronies in the pbp

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man
over a year ago

City Centre, Dublin


"Paul Murphy

Murphy says if Juniper decides at the age of three that they are a boy “then we’ll say , ‘oh yeah cool, you’re a boy, excellent. And you’re free to change your opinion and you’re free to change your gender identity in the future if you want. We’ll respect that and we’ll change the pronouns that we use. If you say you’re a boy, then great you’re a boy. Or if you say you’re a girl, then great you’re a girl.’ But we don’t want to make that choice for Juniper. That’s for Juniper to discover their own gender identity as opposed to us to assume based on their sex.”

Murphy’s close friends and family are supportive. “I think people understand the gender roles are changing and gender is a more fluid thing than the way people would have historically thought about it. It’s an interesting thing, when you get the cert in the hospital, which says the sex of the baby, it says gender as male or female – when it means sex. It’s wrong. It’s the wrong word. What they mean is sex. They’re talking about their biological characteristics.”

Its from a series of articles about families that famous people have written for The Irish Times and not a news article as such "

I’d probably be more fucked off being called Juniper for the rest of my life than temporarily being referred to as “they”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Paul Murphy

Murphy says if Juniper decides at the age of three that they are a boy “then we’ll say , ‘oh yeah cool, you’re a boy, excellent. And you’re free to change your opinion and you’re free to change your gender identity in the future if you want. We’ll respect that and we’ll change the pronouns that we use. If you say you’re a boy, then great you’re a boy. Or if you say you’re a girl, then great you’re a girl.’ But we don’t want to make that choice for Juniper. That’s for Juniper to discover their own gender identity as opposed to us to assume based on their sex.”

Murphy’s close friends and family are supportive. “I think people understand the gender roles are changing and gender is a more fluid thing than the way people would have historically thought about it. It’s an interesting thing, when you get the cert in the hospital, which says the sex of the baby, it says gender as male or female – when it means sex. It’s wrong. It’s the wrong word. What they mean is sex. They’re talking about their biological characteristics.”

Its from a series of articles about families that famous people have written for The Irish Times and not a news article as such

I’d probably be more fucked off being called Juniper for the rest of my life than temporarily being referred to as “they”"

Well you are kinda half way there with your username

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By *itemeagainMan
over a year ago

Wexford


"Whats the view on paul murphy referring to his newborn son as it .doesnt want to refer to him as a boy or girl ."

As in the clown ?

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By *itemeagainMan
over a year ago

Wexford

Why not just call the child by its name if not by gender

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By *asual777Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

Irish politics is fascinating

FG for example are economically right wing but their social policies aren’t at all . Their referenda and public statements are clearly left of centre.

SF are economically left of centre but I am not convinced their social policy swings as far left as FG.

You do wonder if there is political motivation for Paul going public . He is not going to be correcting anyone who calls his child a him , yet he is gone on record as criticising misgendering . This is a huge issue for young adult voters and I wonder if he is after their vote. His role in the Joan burton car blockade suggests that he loves a ‘hero’ role for his fan base .

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By *ildGroverMan
over a year ago

rathfarnham

Most people will settle on one gender or the other

I get his point about gender stereotypes but that’s different from being gendered.

Not sure it needed the publicity but I don’t mind one way or the other.

Awful name though

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere


"Irish politics is fascinating

FG for example are economically right wing but their social policies aren’t at all . Their referenda and public statements are clearly left of centre.

SF are economically left of centre but I am not convinced their social policy swings as far left as FG.

You do wonder if there is political motivation for Paul going public . He is not going to be correcting anyone who calls his child a him , yet he is gone on record as criticising misgendering . This is a huge issue for young adult voters and I wonder if he is after their vote. His role in the Joan burton car blockade suggests that he loves a ‘hero’ role for his fan base .

"

Think once SF get a decent second candidate he's gone anyway no matter what he does

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More woke nonsense, the devil's work indeed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"More woke nonsense, the devil's work indeed "
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What does the Bible say about swing sites?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"More woke nonsense, the devil's work indeed "

Enoch?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"More woke nonsense, the devil's work indeed .

What does the Bible say about swing sites?"

Yup! Call it out….why are we even discussing a baby on this forum?

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"More woke nonsense, the devil's work indeed .

What does the Bible say about swing sites?"

https://www.openbible.info/topics/fornication

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

“Judge not, lest ye be judged”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"More woke nonsense, the devil's work indeed "

Trip trap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"More woke nonsense, the devil's work indeed .

What does the Bible say about swing sites?

https://www.openbible.info/topics/fornication"

Awwww man even divorcees are off the table

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By *ildarekinkstersCouple
over a year ago

kinkytown

The "it" thing came from the usual far right bible bashing shitheads it would seem. The correct pronoun which Paul and his wife even said in the article is they/them. I don't always agree with some of the things Paul says or does but I do agree with him allowing the child to choose and definitely don't think the child should be used as a tool to attack him. Personally think if you are to go after any politician go after them for their actions not their personal life.

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By *ildarekinkstersCouple
over a year ago

kinkytown


"More woke nonsense, the devil's work indeed "

Kathy burke said it best when she tweeted "I love being 'woke'. It's much better then being an ignorant fucking twat"

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By *itemeagainMan
over a year ago

Wexford


"More woke nonsense, the devil's work indeed

Kathy burke said it best when she tweeted "I love being 'woke'. It's much better then being an ignorant fucking twat" "

Not as well said as Obama

“This idea of purity and you’re never compromised and you’re always politically ‘woke’ and all that stuff,” Obama said. “You should get over that quickly." He went on to explain, “The world is messy; there are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws. People who you are fighting may love their kids, and share certain things with you.”

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By *LIVEANDKICKING100Man
over a year ago

DUBLIN

Murphy is bad enough as a TD-now he has become a father. Poor child-what an embarrassment for HIM!

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man
over a year ago

City Centre, Dublin


"Murphy is bad enough as a TD-now he has become a father. Poor child-what an embarrassment for HIM!"

Jeez that enfant is going to be absolutely furious to be mis-gendered by a stranger on the internet, you really showed them

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By *onster-ManMan
over a year ago

Dublin


"More woke nonsense, the devil's work indeed

Kathy burke said it best when she tweeted "I love being 'woke'. It's much better then being an ignorant fucking twat"

Not as well said as Obama

“This idea of purity and you’re never compromised and you’re always politically ‘woke’ and all that stuff,” Obama said. “You should get over that quickly." He went on to explain, “The world is messy; there are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws. People who you are fighting may love their kids, and share certain things with you.”"

You left out the rest of the quote:

"Some of them, on the other hand, are pure cunts."

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By *LIVEANDKICKING100Man
over a year ago

DUBLIN


"Murphy is bad enough as a TD-now he has become a father. Poor child-what an embarrassment for HIM!

Jeez that enfant is going to be absolutely furious to be mis-gendered by a stranger on the internet, you really showed them"

You clearly missed that my post was deliberately misgendering the child.

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By *onster-ManMan
over a year ago

Dublin


"Murphy is bad enough as a TD-now he has become a father. Poor child-what an embarrassment for HIM!

Jeez that enfant is going to be absolutely furious to be mis-gendered by a stranger on the internet, you really showed them

You clearly missed that my post was deliberately misgendering the child. "

So brave.

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man
over a year ago

City Centre, Dublin


"Murphy is bad enough as a TD-now he has become a father. Poor child-what an embarrassment for HIM!

Jeez that enfant is going to be absolutely furious to be mis-gendered by a stranger on the internet, you really showed them

You clearly missed that my post was deliberately misgendering the child. "

No I got it, that’s why I was taking the mick for having a pop at an enfant

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Murphy is bad enough as a TD-now he has become a father. Poor child-what an embarrassment for HIM!"

Agreed. Embarassing stuff, and using his child clearly to try and mine votes amongst a certain section of the electorate.

I had to laugh also where he states hes conscious of respecting the childs privacy...and then goes and does a piece in the irish times about the child.

Embarassing but also drifting dangerously close to child abuse territory

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It/Thing/They/Them

All pronouns covered

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By *arbieandbaldyCouple
over a year ago

Dublin, Liverpool

Paul Murphy is a tosser. Always has been. Him and the rest in government are so out of touch with the rest of the country. Plus this shit is getting out of hand. Kids can't be left as kids anymore.

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