FabSwingers.com forum: Gary Lineker

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It seems that the BBC is now in the RTE zone, no longer a Public service but a government news agency just an opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looks like they aren't going to have any regular pundits either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also the BBC has beeb far more controlled and sanitised than RTE for a long time

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Also the BBC has beeb far more controlled and sanitised than RTE for a long time "

Unfortunately it’s now quite hard to get a proper perspective on what’s happening rather than the opinions of the opinionated

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

Id imagine they might go with no presenter and just show highlights

I actually think fair play to them sticking up for him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also the BBC has beeb far more controlled and sanitised than RTE for a long time

Unfortunately it’s now quite hard to get a proper perspective on what’s happening rather than the opinions of the opinionated "

Well that's debatable.

For example pre Internet it would have been alot harder to be able to read the full wording of the legislation Liniker was criticising.

You would have been far more reliant on a TV or paper picking up on it and publishing it, which would never be in its entirety.

The information is out there but some people are too lazy or too insecure to look beyond their own echo chambers.

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By *ickyAthleticMan
over a year ago

Galway

He'll be snapped up quickly by another broadcaster. Its a joke really. What he does outside his workplace is his own business.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He'll be snapped up quickly by another broadcaster. Its a joke really. What he does outside his workplace is his own business."

He is already a free lancer sohad gigs with ITV etc....

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?"

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?"

He criticised the proposed immigration bill in the uk and sent a tweet, BBC suspending him for a political viewpoint

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?"

Basically compared the wording in tories new immigration policies to pre ww2 Germany

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So heard this early by a reporter that he was sitting through the World Cup promoting the bbc stance on Qatar

And he has spoken out on the way the English government is treating its own people and the beeb fire him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fair play too all those that are standing by him wright shearer and most of all Alex Scott who they taught they were going too get too present the show

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

As an Irishman I just love the irony of the children of immigrants now calling refugees criminals

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man
over a year ago

Ballsbridge, City Centre

I say fair play Gary, sticking to his principles.

I’m sure the fact that the BBC chairman is a Tory has nothing to do with it

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By *alwayVixenWoman
over a year ago

Galway

I don’t see any RTE Chairperson giving money to the Taoiseach as happened with BBC chairperson and Boris Johnson. RTE might have a lot of faults but it’s not a fair comparison.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Did he say this on air or was this expressed while working?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did he say this on air or was this expressed while working?"

It was a tweet

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By *alvin.Man
over a year ago

Cork/Dublin

I support GL. Good for him. Tories eh. Funts. What sort of country do they want. Sliding backwards instead of evolving.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Did he say this on air or was this expressed while working?

It was a tweet"

Well fuck. That's hardly the crime of the century.

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

BBC just announced no presenters at all tomorrow night just match highlights

Wonder will any manager or player say anything in the interviews

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don’t see any RTE Chairperson giving money to the Taoiseach as happened with BBC chairperson and Boris Johnson. RTE might have a lot of faults but it’s not a fair comparison."

RTE has become a crony outfit, run by Covneys brother and other ffg hacks, reporting is far from impartial

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"BBC just announced no presenters at all tomorrow night just match highlights

Wonder will any manager or player say anything in the interviews "

They can’t their contract is with the F.A

They have contractual obligations a bit like the one Liniker signed

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

Hes insufferable, but dont see why hes been canned though.

Having said that, his tweet was ridiculous. Pure hyperbolic nonsense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hes insufferable, but dont see why hes been canned though.

Having said that, his tweet was ridiculous. Pure hyperbolic nonsense"

He’s not a politician so why bother i’d ask, a bit like Enoch and his antics

He (liniker)signed a contract in 2020 with the beeb and it was supposed to be written in his contract the details of which I couldn’t be bothered me hole googling

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Like a lot in modern world /society. Mountain out of a molehill. Have to watch your Ps and Qs Gary

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By *aiseanagusspraoiMan
over a year ago

city

"It seems that the BBC is now in the RTE zone, no longer a Public service but a government news agency just an opinion "

The BBC have been run by the tory paedophile for years. RTE hasn't a patch in them

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By *asual777Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

Croxall and Maitlis lost their jobs over this so unfortunately I can’t see Lineker coming back . Expect a more robotic appointment personality wise unless he puts in a massive apology …

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Didn't see what the hype was with linekar in the first place, they'll have somebody better next week

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Didn't see what the hype was with linekar in the first place, they'll have somebody better next week

Are you not outraged someone has lost a job for expressing a political view on theor personal social media page not linked with the employer, seems like something you would be

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By *eralt80Man
over a year ago

cork

Word on the street has it that he’s planning on standing outsides the MOTD studio until he’s reinstated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Word on the street has it that he’s planning on standing outsides the MOTD studio until he’s reinstated "

I swear to god I need to find employees like this.

Getting fuckers to turn up is way worse than getting them to piss off

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By *eralt80Man
over a year ago

cork

"Word on the street has it that he’s planning on standing outsides the MOTD studio until he’s reinstated

I swear to god I need to find employees like this.

Getting fuckers to turn up is way worse than getting them to piss off"

Treat em mean keep em keen

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By *on Juan the MADridMan
over a year ago

Lisbon/ North England/ Wales/ Madrid/

It looks like the Spanish TV, especially regional channels

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By *en_Dover79Man
over a year ago

Oswaldtwistle

Best England striker of my lifetime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Word on the street has it that he’s planning on standing outsides the MOTD studio until he’s reinstated "

Brilliant lad that made me laugh out loud

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

Match of the Day will be shortened to about 20 minutes tonight because the BBC has no commentary.

Faced with the prospect of a nearly silent broadcast after commentators refused to work on the programme in solidarity with Gary Lineker, the BBC has opted to show a condensed version. The corporation is understood to be contractually obliged to show highlights from the Premier League.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Didn't see what the hype was with linekar in the first place, they'll have somebody better next week

Are you not outraged someone has lost a job for expressing a political view on theor personal social media page not linked with the employer, seems like something you would be"

If it was anybody else or if it was even a profession worth writing home about then yes I would but its an ex footballer expressing a political view, storm in a tea cup really, would suit him better to stay in his make believe world of football

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Didn't see what the hype was with linekar in the first place, they'll have somebody better next week

Are you not outraged someone has lost a job for expressing a political view on theor personal social media page not linked with the employer, seems like something you would be"

I don't aul Gary will be struggling to make ends meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Didn't see what the hype was with linekar in the first place, they'll have somebody better next week

Are you not outraged someone has lost a job for expressing a political view on theor personal social media page not linked with the employer, seems like something you would be

Do you have a list of professions you think should be allowed express theor personal political views on theor personal social media?

Or is it more to do with which views are being expressed than the profession of the person expressing them?

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Didn't see what the hype was with linekar in the first place, they'll have somebody better next week

Are you not outraged someone has lost a job for expressing a political view on theor personal social media page not linked with the employer, seems like something you would be

Do you have a list of professions you think should be allowed express theor personal political views on theor personal social media?

Or is it more to do with which views are being expressed than the profession of the person expressing them?"

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

The Director-General of the BBC has a nightmare job; a public broadcasting service whose income is incrementally eroded by an interfering government and commercial pressures; and many talented and powerful presenters with personal followings, which is akin to trying to herd cats.

Once very powerful and internationally influential the BBC is an organisation in crisis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If he posted his personal opinion on a private social media page that was available to his private life associates, friends, family then fill yer boots.

Let's not play the naive leftie luvvie suckup.

He's a media whore and puts out content and pushes his profile to support his currency as a tv pundit and to reach audiences that will make him attractive to marketing execs.

His 'personal' socials aren't like joe bloggs next door and all the posters here well know it.

He messed up. His friends have said he knows it, knew it soon after, but refuses to back down.

He's an insufferable ego driven muppet full of ideas of his own invincibility at the bbc.

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

His " friends" according to the Daily mail....The paper that wanted to keep Jewish refugees out of Britain in the 30's .....

I think the man has the right to post what he wants especially since he actually took a refugee into his house

All the previous complains against BBC personalities were found in favour of the personality as they were contractors of the BBC and not the voice of The BBC

will The Apprentice be cancelled....no cause Sugar supports the Tories

If GL had said he agree with The Tory policies and Labour attacked him ....The Tories would claim free speech

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why can people not accept that the debate isn't about refugees and asylum seeking migrants.

It's about economic migrants being facilitated, bled for thousands, drowning, and the people traffickers who profiteer off this mentality of wide open borders.

Should good folk do nothing and thereby support the gang masters in their business plan crossing the channel?

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

"Why can people not accept that the debate isn't about refugees and asylum seeking migrants.

It's about economic migrants being facilitated, bled for thousands, drowning, and the people traffickers who profiteer off this mentality of wide open borders.

Should good folk do nothing and thereby support the gang masters in their business plan crossing the channel?"

Then why is there no legal route for a refugee to claim asylum in Britain ( apart from 3 counties I think )

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"The Director-General of the BBC has a nightmare job; a public broadcasting service whose income is incrementally eroded by an interfering government and commercial pressures; and many talented and powerful presenters with personal followings, which is akin to trying to herd cats.

Once very powerful and internationally influential the BBC is an organisation in crisis."

The BBC is still internationally influential.... but it is also in crisis.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Why can people not accept that the debate isn't about refugees and asylum seeking migrants.

It's about economic migrants being facilitated, bled for thousands, drowning, and the people traffickers who profiteer off this mentality of wide open borders.

Should good folk do nothing and thereby support the gang masters in their business plan crossing the channel?"

I'm not sure that IS what the debate is about. Seems to me it's more about a power struggle between social media and traditional media.

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

In Lord Reith's era at the BBC it was monolithic, but is now a shadow of its former self.

Lineker went off-message, and knows he can, because of his personal power in a fading organisation.

Within a year his contract fee will have doubled in another media business.

In truth, I have never actually heard Lineker say more that five words; I understand that he is a former soccer player, and a pundit who is the best paid person at the BBC.

His independent opinions are inconsequential, but by equating current UK policy to the treatment of fleeing Jews, from Hitler in the 1930s, he has now touched a raw nerve and exposed a truth; refugees are always treated badly because they are powerless

Lineker is populistically powerful, but the real power lies with MPs and the establishment.

Refugees crossing the channel is costing too much and the authorities cannot yet stop them .

Foreign refugees are still personae non gratae: they are not wanted.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why can people not accept that the debate isn't about refugees and asylum seeking migrants.

It's about economic migrants being facilitated, bled for thousands, drowning, and the people traffickers who profiteer off this mentality of wide open borders.

Should good folk do nothing and thereby support the gang masters in their business plan crossing the channel?

I'm not sure that IS what the debate is about. Seems to me it's more about a power struggle between social media and traditional media."

The struggle between what propaganda and the truth

"Just because I disagree with you, does not mean I hate you. We need to relearn that in our society" Morgan Freeman

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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"Why can people not accept that the debate isn't about refugees and asylum seeking migrants.

It's about economic migrants being facilitated, bled for thousands, drowning, and the people traffickers who profiteer off this mentality of wide open borders.

Should good folk do nothing and thereby support the gang masters in their business plan crossing the channel?"

Which good folk woukd this be? The tories?

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Why can people not accept that the debate isn't about refugees and asylum seeking migrants.

It's about economic migrants being facilitated, bled for thousands, drowning, and the people traffickers who profiteer off this mentality of wide open borders.

Should good folk do nothing and thereby support the gang masters in their business plan crossing the channel?

I'm not sure that IS what the debate is about. Seems to me it's more about a power struggle between social media and traditional media.

The struggle between what propaganda and the truth

"Just because I disagree with you, does not mean I hate you. We need to relearn that in our society" Morgan Freeman"

Not completely sure what you mean by this... but neither traditional media nor social media can be considered truth, and both can at times also be propaganda. The savvy person reads between the lines and uses different sources to try and get close to reality. Either way I'd say that whether you're left or right.. the ability to speak freely and peacefully in your own time using your own resources shouldn't cause you to lose your job.

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By *LIVEANDKICKING100Man
over a year ago

DUBLIN

RTE support Government narratives for some time. No longer a trustworthy Broadcaster.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why can people not accept that the debate isn't about refugees and asylum seeking migrants.

It's about economic migrants being facilitated, bled for thousands, drowning, and the people traffickers who profiteer off this mentality of wide open borders.

Should good folk do nothing and thereby support the gang masters in their business plan crossing the channel?

I'm not sure that IS what the debate is about. Seems to me it's more about a power struggle between social media and traditional media.

The struggle between what propaganda and the truth

"Just because I disagree with you, does not mean I hate you. We need to relearn that in our society" Morgan Freeman

It is my belief that there are no longer agencies reporting the news as it happens, what we have are media outlets and in this case, media is driven by algorithms which follow our digital footprint

No I’m not a conspiracy theorist just a realist, consider Cambridge Analytica and any lessons learned or how “news” is manipulated to get certain results, eg Troll Farms. Just have 2 people in the Sam household go on Facebook at the same time, different feeds and different news.

Newspapers change to reflect the views of their owners rather than report, example Ukraine War. In 2020 Ukraine was reported to be the most corrupt country in Europe, now it’s a defender of western values

Yes we have the freedom to think but they, msm, also have the freedom to manipulate

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By *itemeagainMan
over a year ago

Wexford

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's "

Is he correct?

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Why can people not accept that the debate isn't about refugees and asylum seeking migrants.

It's about economic migrants being facilitated, bled for thousands, drowning, and the people traffickers who profiteer off this mentality of wide open borders.

Should good folk do nothing and thereby support the gang masters in their business plan crossing the channel?

I'm not sure that IS what the debate is about. Seems to me it's more about a power struggle between social media and traditional media.

The struggle between what propaganda and the truth

"Just because I disagree with you, does not mean I hate you. We need to relearn that in our society" Morgan Freeman

It is my belief that there are no longer agencies reporting the news as it happens, what we have are media outlets and in this case, media is driven by algorithms which follow our digital footprint

Yes we have the freedom to think but they, msm, also have the freedom to manipulate "

Cant argue with most of that. Most "News" agencies are commercial entities and have to make a profit to stay alive and satisfy shareholder thirst. State broadcasters have to satisfy their paymasters - the government.

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's

Is he correct? "

In my opinion yes.....

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By *itemeagainMan
over a year ago

Wexford

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's

Is he correct?

In my opinion yes....."

Apart from opinions , is the language similar?

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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's

Is he correct?

In my opinion yes.....

Apart from opinions , is the language similar? "

Well, one is in German and the other is in English so obviously not.

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By *itemeagainMan
over a year ago

Wexford

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's

Is he correct?

In my opinion yes.....

Apart from opinions , is the language similar?

Well, one is in German and the other is in English so obviously not. "

Your an astute one

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's

Is he correct? "

No hes not. He was being completely hyperbolic, as with most celebrities, in order to draw as much attention to himself as possible.

The language used was nothing like thst used in the early nazi regime

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's

Is he correct?

No hes not. He was being completely hyperbolic, as with most celebrities, in order to draw as much attention to himself as possible.

The language used was nothing like thst used in the early nazi regime"

Amazing the amount of people that have written for various newspapers that have agreed with both sides of the argument with examples

But then some of them come out with the line....but I'm married/ friends/ lovers with a jewish person so I can't be wrong

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By *itemeagainMan
over a year ago

Wexford

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's

Is he correct?

No hes not. He was being completely hyperbolic, as with most celebrities, in order to draw as much attention to himself as possible.

The language used was nothing like thst used in the early nazi regime"

Ah thanks ... I literally know nothing of this story and a to the point answer was what I was lookin for .

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By *easingTimMan
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

"RTE support Government narratives for some time. No longer a trustworthy Broadcaster. "

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100% agree

Years ago there would be an open debate on nearly all relevant topics. Not anymore. Instead, there's a few vested interests pushing a certain narrative and too many presenters with keys in their backs ready to repeat what's on the sheet in front of them

Broadcasters now seem to think they own the minds and opinions of their Presenters 24/7 and lord forbid a Presenter should have a view of their own. Something had to give and Gary Lineker just revealed that something. Interesting times ahead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Once shit himself on the pitch vs Ireland.

No relevance to the conversation but important information for those that didn't know all the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's

Is he correct?

No hes not. He was being completely hyperbolic, as with most celebrities, in order to draw as much attention to himself as possible.

The language used was nothing like thst used in the early nazi regime

Ah thanks ... I literally know nothing of this story and a to the point answer was what I was lookin for . "

That's just another opinion. I could say yes it is.

In the time you waited here for an answer you could have googled the whole thing and seen for yourself.

Much better to hold out for the answer you wanted though

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By *onster-ManMan
over a year ago

Dublin

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By *itemeagainMan
over a year ago

Wexford

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's

Is he correct?

No hes not. He was being completely hyperbolic, as with most celebrities, in order to draw as much attention to himself as possible.

The language used was nothing like thst used in the early nazi regime

Ah thanks ... I literally know nothing of this story and a to the point answer was what I was lookin for .

That's just another opinion. I could say yes it is.

In the time you waited here for an answer you could have googled the whole thing and seen for yourself.

Much better to hold out for the answer you wanted though

Much better . Thanks babe

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By *itemeagainMan
over a year ago

Wexford

"I'm a bit of of the loop here, what did he say?

He said the language coming from the government about the people coming on the boats was like the language used in Germany in the 30's

Is he correct?

No hes not. He was being completely hyperbolic, as with most celebrities, in order to draw as much attention to himself as possible.

The language used was nothing like thst used in the early nazi regime

Ah thanks ... I literally know nothing of this story and a to the point answer was what I was lookin for .

That's just another opinion. I could say yes it is.

In the time you waited here for an answer you could have googled the whole thing and seen for yourself.

Much better to hold out for the answer you wanted though

Tbf i could google it ... however it would probably have taken me hours to research weather it was similar or not ... the people discussing it seemed informed so I said I'd ask ... you know we don't all think we know everything... I get that may be difficult for you to comprehend?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's an insufferable ego driven muppet full of ideas of his own invincibility at the bbc."

Well the BBC have apologised, are reviewing their whole policy relating to presenters social media and Liniker will be back on air next weekend.

So he may have been right about his invincibility

Hopefully other presenters will be able to develop their own personal opinions following this

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Fair fucks Gary. Hopefully they will get rid of this silly idea that presenters can't express an opinion on anything outside of work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Could he not have done something original

Walking the dog thing was done in 2002

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