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"How about the crazy notion that people acknowledge that the heavier, faster, larger motorised vehicles that exist today and the infrastructure they dominate does not reflect that of decades gone by where it was a slower pace with fewer vehicles and different way of life as far as how much/often people travelled by car. Cycling today is not a safe method of transport. It should be a sport in a designated, off-road, off-footpath cycling area Set the friction and hate between folk aside and be rational. It's just. Not. Safe. I hate to come upon a cyclist as they make an inherently dangerous thing (driving) massively more risky. This week, I was driving home at 11:30pm on a winding country road in pitch black, no street lights. Came around a blind bend (15mph under the speed limit) to come upon a cyclist tootling along in dark clothing. The only thing I could see was one low strength red light. If a car had been travelling the other way, the cars lights would have drowned out that piddly wee rear light and I would have had (a) no chance to see him and (b) nowhere to manoeuvre around him. He'd be dead. Madness. People getting on a comparatively slow moving vehicle to try and operate in and around vehicles moving at lethal speeds wearing zero protection bar a plastic hat are not wise. Even motorcycle riders are high risk and they are able to match their speed to the other vehicles. It's like a worm versus a tortoise. I know which I'd rather be if I were to get stood on. Ridiculous analogy perhaps, but it's true" Going by your 'rational' the stronger gets the road and the weaker gets some sort of reservoir somewhere to go for a spin? What will we do with pedestrians? Yes, I fully agree with you it's very dangerous but how about raising awareness and educate motorists accordingly, changing speed limits, introducing cycling paths/lanes etc. There's plenty of countries like the Netherlands where almost everyone is cycling, coexisting with other traffic. If they can do it we can do it too.  | |||
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"Cyclist and scooters should not be on the road they don't obey any law or regulation in fact they are a health hazard " And car drivers do? Give your head a wobble before coming out with this nonsense | |||
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"Cyclist and scooters should not be on the road they don't obey any law or regulation in fact they are a health hazard And car drivers do? Give your head a wobble before coming out with this nonsense "  Give your head a wobble... Lol. | |||
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"How about the crazy notion that people acknowledge that the heavier, faster, larger motorised vehicles that exist today and the infrastructure they dominate does not reflect that of decades gone by where it was a slower pace with fewer vehicles and different way of life as far as how much/often people travelled by car. Cycling today is not a safe method of transport. It should be a sport in a designated, off-road, off-footpath cycling area Set the friction and hate between folk aside and be rational. It's just. Not. Safe. I hate to come upon a cyclist as they make an inherently dangerous thing (driving) massively more risky. This week, I was driving home at 11:30pm on a winding country road in pitch black, no street lights. Came around a blind bend (15mph under the speed limit) to come upon a cyclist tootling along in dark clothing. The only thing I could see was one low strength red light. If a car had been travelling the other way, the cars lights would have drowned out that piddly wee rear light and I would have had (a) no chance to see him and (b) nowhere to manoeuvre around him. He'd be dead. Madness. People getting on a comparatively slow moving vehicle to try and operate in and around vehicles moving at lethal speeds wearing zero protection bar a plastic hat are not wise. Even motorcycle riders are high risk and they are able to match their speed to the other vehicles. It's like a worm versus a tortoise. I know which I'd rather be if I were to get stood on. Ridiculous analogy perhaps, but it's true Going by your 'rational' the stronger gets the road and the weaker gets some sort of reservoir somewhere to go for a spin? What will we do with pedestrians? Yes, I fully agree with you it's very dangerous but how about raising awareness and educate motorists accordingly, changing speed limits, introducing cycling paths/lanes etc. There's plenty of countries like the Netherlands where almost everyone is cycling, coexisting with other traffic. If they can do it we can do it too. "I see a whole lot of comments driven towards the "motorists" i habe been driving for a lot of years now and never once have i come across a bumch of motorists all bunched in a group filling up whole lanes, not moving into singular or dual lines to let other motorists pass. Nor have i been greeted at a trafic light or roundabout by a bunch of motorists because i had to accelorate rather swiftly to over take them in order to get back into the safety of my driving lane. There are more and more cycle paths up all over the place but some cyclists rather than use them toddle along down the middle of the road. Wont put a light on their bikes at night and wear dark clothes, cycling down the road with their hands in their pockets and blast through red lights.. and while doing all that if a motorist clips them its the motorist in the shits? This may seem loke a rant but i assure you it is not, im just putting 1 comment there about the cyclists seen as there so many against motorists. Bearing in mind i have a higher licence class that the standard B licence so am classed as a professional driver, and the fact my brother was killed aged 2.5 yrs old wjen hit by a Van. Sometimes when there is a Motorist Vs Cyclist or Padestrian its not always the motorist who was at fault. | |||
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"I've started to cycle a bit myself since I retired. The bike lanes are a great help. When I'm on the bike I wear a helmet, put on the flashing light at back of helmet and wear a yellow bid even during daylight hours. I've seen people on bikes in summer wearing singlet and short, others wearing all black as if they are special ops. Just have to share the road. I think bike lanes near traffic lights are dangerous as some drivers seem to think sure the cyclist is safe in the bike lane and the car turns left without looking. The only think that annoys me is it was announced recently that they are going to spend 200 millions on bike lanes yet they will not built social and affordable homes "200 million on bike lanes that will not henerate a cent to maintain those lanes yet every motorist has to pay road tax and tolls unless they drive a vintage car. As well as the cyclist and e scooter mob whizzing in between the road, pavement and cycle lane without a seconds thought of looking behind them. | |||
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"How about the crazy notion that people acknowledge that the heavier, faster, larger motorised vehicles that exist today and the infrastructure they dominate does not reflect that of decades gone by where it was a slower pace with fewer vehicles and different way of life as far as how much/often people travelled by car. Cycling today is not a safe method of transport. It should be a sport in a designated, off-road, off-footpath cycling area Set the friction and hate between folk aside and be rational. It's just. Not. Safe. I hate to come upon a cyclist as they make an inherently dangerous thing (driving) massively more risky. This week, I was driving home at 11:30pm on a winding country road in pitch black, no street lights. Came around a blind bend (15mph under the speed limit) to come upon a cyclist tootling along in dark clothing. The only thing I could see was one low strength red light. If a car had been travelling the other way, the cars lights would have drowned out that piddly wee rear light and I would have had (a) no chance to see him and (b) nowhere to manoeuvre around him. He'd be dead. Madness. People getting on a comparatively slow moving vehicle to try and operate in and around vehicles moving at lethal speeds wearing zero protection bar a plastic hat are not wise. Even motorcycle riders are high risk and they are able to match their speed to the other vehicles. It's like a worm versus a tortoise. I know which I'd rather be if I were to get stood on. Ridiculous analogy perhaps, but it's true Going by your 'rational' the stronger gets the road and the weaker gets some sort of reservoir somewhere to go for a spin? What will we do with pedestrians? Yes, I fully agree with you it's very dangerous but how about raising awareness and educate motorists accordingly, changing speed limits, introducing cycling paths/lanes etc. There's plenty of countries like the Netherlands where almost everyone is cycling, coexisting with other traffic. If they can do it we can do it too.
I see a whole lot of comments driven towards the "motorists" i habe been driving for a lot of years now and never once have i come across a bumch of motorists all bunched in a group filling up whole lanes, not moving into singular or dual lines to let other motorists pass. Nor have i been greeted at a trafic light or roundabout by a bunch of motorists because i had to accelorate rather swiftly to over take them in order to get back into the safety of my driving lane. There are more and more cycle paths up all over the place but some cyclists rather than use them toddle along down the middle of the road. Wont put a light on their bikes at night and wear dark clothes, cycling down the road with their hands in their pockets and blast through red lights.. and while doing all that if a motorist clips them its the motorist in the shits? This may seem loke a rant but i assure you it is not, im just putting 1 comment there about the cyclists seen as there so many against motorists. Bearing in mind i have a higher licence class that the standard B licence so am classed as a professional driver, and the fact my brother was killed aged 2.5 yrs old wjen hit by a Van. Sometimes when there is a Motorist Vs Cyclist or Padestrian its not always the motorist who was at fault. "Your comparisons at the beginning of your post don't really work because of the substantial size difference between a car and a bicycle. However I get your point that cyclists have to improve their behaviour too, absolutely. | |||
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"How about the crazy notion that people acknowledge that the heavier, faster, larger motorised vehicles that exist today and the infrastructure they dominate does not reflect that of decades gone by where it was a slower pace with fewer vehicles and different way of life as far as how much/often people travelled by car. Cycling today is not a safe method of transport. It should be a sport in a designated, off-road, off-footpath cycling area Set the friction and hate between folk aside and be rational. It's just. Not. Safe. I hate to come upon a cyclist as they make an inherently dangerous thing (driving) massively more risky. This week, I was driving home at 11:30pm on a winding country road in pitch black, no street lights. Came around a blind bend (15mph under the speed limit) to come upon a cyclist tootling along in dark clothing. The only thing I could see was one low strength red light. If a car had been travelling the other way, the cars lights would have drowned out that piddly wee rear light and I would have had (a) no chance to see him and (b) nowhere to manoeuvre around him. He'd be dead. Madness. People getting on a comparatively slow moving vehicle to try and operate in and around vehicles moving at lethal speeds wearing zero protection bar a plastic hat are not wise. Even motorcycle riders are high risk and they are able to match their speed to the other vehicles. It's like a worm versus a tortoise. I know which I'd rather be if I were to get stood on. Ridiculous analogy perhaps, but it's true Going by your 'rational' the stronger gets the road and the weaker gets some sort of reservoir somewhere to go for a spin? What will we do with pedestrians? Yes, I fully agree with you it's very dangerous but how about raising awareness and educate motorists accordingly, changing speed limits, introducing cycling paths/lanes etc. There's plenty of countries like the Netherlands where almost everyone is cycling, coexisting with other traffic. If they can do it we can do it too.
I see a whole lot of comments driven towards the "motorists" i habe been driving for a lot of years now and never once have i come across a bumch of motorists all bunched in a group filling up whole lanes, not moving into singular or dual lines to let other motorists pass. Nor have i been greeted at a trafic light or roundabout by a bunch of motorists because i had to accelorate rather swiftly to over take them in order to get back into the safety of my driving lane. There are more and more cycle paths up all over the place but some cyclists rather than use them toddle along down the middle of the road. Wont put a light on their bikes at night and wear dark clothes, cycling down the road with their hands in their pockets and blast through red lights.. and while doing all that if a motorist clips them its the motorist in the shits? This may seem loke a rant but i assure you it is not, im just putting 1 comment there about the cyclists seen as there so many against motorists. Bearing in mind i have a higher licence class that the standard B licence so am classed as a professional driver, and the fact my brother was killed aged 2.5 yrs old wjen hit by a Van. Sometimes when there is a Motorist Vs Cyclist or Padestrian its not always the motorist who was at fault.
Your comparisons at the beginning of your post don't really work because of the substantial size difference between a car and a bicycle. However I get your point that cyclists have to improve their behaviour too, absolutely.
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you" Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. | |||
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"How about the crazy notion that people acknowledge that the heavier, faster, larger motorised vehicles that exist today and the infrastructure they dominate does not reflect that of decades gone by where it was a slower pace with fewer vehicles and different way of life as far as how much/often people travelled by car. Cycling today is not a safe method of transport. It should be a sport in a designated, off-road, off-footpath cycling area Set the friction and hate between folk aside and be rational. It's just. Not. Safe. I hate to come upon a cyclist as they make an inherently dangerous thing (driving) massively more risky. This week, I was driving home at 11:30pm on a winding country road in pitch black, no street lights. Came around a blind bend (15mph under the speed limit) to come upon a cyclist tootling along in dark clothing. The only thing I could see was one low strength red light. If a car had been travelling the other way, the cars lights would have drowned out that piddly wee rear light and I would have had (a) no chance to see him and (b) nowhere to manoeuvre around him. He'd be dead. Madness. People getting on a comparatively slow moving vehicle to try and operate in and around vehicles moving at lethal speeds wearing zero protection bar a plastic hat are not wise. Even motorcycle riders are high risk and they are able to match their speed to the other vehicles. It's like a worm versus a tortoise. I know which I'd rather be if I were to get stood on. Ridiculous analogy perhaps, but it's true" Tbh, I think you have this the wrong way around. All it really takes is for motorists to slow down, for literally a few seconds. Why are people always in a perpetual rush? Cyclists should cycle side by side at all times full width of the lane and motorists just need to slow down and ask themselves why are they so angry, its not normal rational behaviour. I am not a cyclist btw, I only ever watch the highlights of the The Tour de France for the crashes!! 
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"I am cautious and careful and never get ragey at cyclists or pedestrians or horses & riders. I make way and wait and give them space. But I do get alarmed coming around a blind bend to find a walker or cyclist as, by comparison of size and speed of travel, they are to all intents and purposes a static obstacle in the middle of the lane or on the verge. It's just so dangerous. I wouldn't do it myself, ever. The one thing that I find ignorant is, having been patient and all these things to make a safe pass, if you end up in a queue further on they don't also queue. They'll fly past and under take and not worry about their 1m distance when it benefits them. And you are back to square one with the waiting to pass safely again. That's not being considerate in return." I agree and like I said it is why I won't cycle on roads anymore. And I agree that consideration should work both ways as well. There are those on both sides of the argument who do go out of their way to be awkward and prove their right of way is more important than anyone else. When it should be everyone be considerate of other road users. And yes coming around a blind bend and finding someone in the middle of the road and you barely able to see them would put the heart sideways in you at times. It doesn't take a lot of cop on to make sure at very least you are visible to other users and keep yourself as safe as you can. | |||
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"I travel to work most mornings along narrow roads in the dark and am amazed at the number of walkers, runners and cyclists who don't have lights or hi vis vests. There have been a couple of close calls. I almost drove over a cyclist lying in front of me as I was pulling out of a filling station this week. He had no lights at all and the car in front of me hadn't seen him and pulled out in front of him and he had fallen off trying to avoid hitting the car. I was looking the opposite way for oncoming traffic and wouldn't have seen him at all if he hadn't stood up in front of me. Two cyclists last week completely ignored the cycle lane at Jordanstown and were on the road instead causing a long tail back. " Call it Natural Selection  | |||
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. " Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately | |||
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately " Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status." When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that. | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status. When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that." I would imagine the amount of former car drivers who know cycle 3 grand electric bikes avoiding the rush hour commute, fuel charges and parking charges would look at it very differently | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status. When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that. I would imagine the amount of former car drivers who know cycle 3 grand electric bikes avoiding the rush hour commute, fuel charges and parking charges would look at it very differently " Those aren't the figures I've been regaled with by one or two customers in my previous job, who liked to stop in in full lycra and bring the things inside the business premises to show off their prize possession. More like 7000 and 10000 on high tech racers. | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status. When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that. I would imagine the amount of former car drivers who know cycle 3 grand electric bikes avoiding the rush hour commute, fuel charges and parking charges would look at it very differently " Last week a middle aged man driving a Porche panamera parked beside me,got out dressed in Lycra. Took a very fancy looking bike out of the car and went off for his sunday spin .....The car is worth about 180k cause I looked it up | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status. When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that. I would imagine the amount of former car drivers who know cycle 3 grand electric bikes avoiding the rush hour commute, fuel charges and parking charges would look at it very differently Those aren't the figures I've been regaled with by one or two customers in my previous job, who liked to stop in in full lycra and bring the things inside the business premises to show off their prize possession. More like 7000 and 10000 on high tech racers." That is few and far between. You can get bikes that expensive but its very very uncommon. Most decent electric bikes will set uou back less that 3 grand especially with the bike the work scheme. Not really sure what your point is anyway. Irish people are obsessed with cars, this is not news. | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status. When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that. I would imagine the amount of former car drivers who know cycle 3 grand electric bikes avoiding the rush hour commute, fuel charges and parking charges would look at it very differently Last week a middle aged man driving a Porche panamera parked beside me,got out dressed in Lycra. Took a very fancy looking bike out of the car and went off for his sunday spin .....The car is worth about 180k cause I looked it up "He was obvious a mamil | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status. When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that. I would imagine the amount of former car drivers who know cycle 3 grand electric bikes avoiding the rush hour commute, fuel charges and parking charges would look at it very differently Last week a middle aged man driving a Porche panamera parked beside me,got out dressed in Lycra. Took a very fancy looking bike out of the car and went off for his sunday spin .....The car is worth about 180k cause I looked it up
He was obvious a mamil"I can't leave my house for about an hour every sunday morning as literally 100 of them go past taking over the whole road heading to Glendalough | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status. When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that. I would imagine the amount of former car drivers who know cycle 3 grand electric bikes avoiding the rush hour commute, fuel charges and parking charges would look at it very differently Those aren't the figures I've been regaled with by one or two customers in my previous job, who liked to stop in in full lycra and bring the things inside the business premises to show off their prize possession. More like 7000 and 10000 on high tech racers. That is few and far between. You can get bikes that expensive but its very very uncommon. Most decent electric bikes will set uou back less that 3 grand especially with the bike the work scheme. Not really sure what your point is anyway. Irish people are obsessed with cars, this is not news. " 7 - 10,000 perhaps if they race. Those who take it seriously are obviously going to spend more on the machine they compete on, and will often have more than one bike.The average hobbyist club rider is probably spending 3-5,000. Less again for those cycling to commute. | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status. When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that. I would imagine the amount of former car drivers who know cycle 3 grand electric bikes avoiding the rush hour commute, fuel charges and parking charges would look at it very differently Last week a middle aged man driving a Porche panamera parked beside me,got out dressed in Lycra. Took a very fancy looking bike out of the car and went off for his sunday spin .....The car is worth about 180k cause I looked it up
He was obvious a mamil
I can't leave my house for about an hour every sunday morning as literally 100 of them go past taking over the whole road heading to Glendalough "The traditional cycling club Sunday bun run  | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status. When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that. I would imagine the amount of former car drivers who know cycle 3 grand electric bikes avoiding the rush hour commute, fuel charges and parking charges would look at it very differently Last week a middle aged man driving a Porche panamera parked beside me,got out dressed in Lycra. Took a very fancy looking bike out of the car and went off for his sunday spin .....The car is worth about 180k cause I looked it up
He was obvious a mamil
I can't leave my house for about an hour every sunday morning as literally 100 of them go past taking over the whole road heading to Glendalough
The traditional cycling club Sunday bun run "As long as I get to the shop for my coffee and paper before the peloton passes by I don't mind | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status. When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that. I would imagine the amount of former car drivers who know cycle 3 grand electric bikes avoiding the rush hour commute, fuel charges and parking charges would look at it very differently Last week a middle aged man driving a Porche panamera parked beside me,got out dressed in Lycra. Took a very fancy looking bike out of the car and went off for his sunday spin .....The car is worth about 180k cause I looked it up
He was obvious a mamil
I can't leave my house for about an hour every sunday morning as literally 100 of them go past taking over the whole road heading to Glendalough
The traditional cycling club Sunday bun run
As long as I get to the shop for my coffee and paper before the peloton passes by I don't mind "At least its the weekend, the lads that do it on weekdays does my head in | |||
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. " You would not be saying that the cyclist would not pass onto the footpart are you? | |||
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"Irish people are obsessed with cars. Its a status. When you hear of the thousands folk spend on a bike, more than I've ever spent on a car, you might reassess that. I would imagine the amount of former car drivers who know cycle 3 grand electric bikes avoiding the rush hour commute, fuel charges and parking charges would look at it very differently Last week a middle aged man driving a Porche panamera parked beside me,got out dressed in Lycra. Took a very fancy looking bike out of the car and went off for his sunday spin .....The car is worth about 180k cause I looked it up
He was obvious a mamil
I can't leave my house for about an hour every sunday morning as literally 100 of them go past taking over the whole road heading to Glendalough "I said more or less the same thing earlier but i got told they pay licence fees etc and they only cycle 2 a brest.. | |||
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. You would not be saying that the cyclist would not pass onto the footpart are you? " I'm not sure what you're asking me.. I think you're suggesting that cyclists cycle on footpaths happily enough? I haven't cycled in a while due to back issues but regularly you'd find three or four people together walking along taking up both footpath and cycle lane. Also, in many places, there might be a slight height difference between the cycle path and the footpath, usually due to the cycle path being put in as an afterthought and subsiding, and while 20mm might not make much difference to pedestrians, it can cause problems for a bicycle on narrow tyres. | |||
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you" I would say the major danger is in riding next to each other. Although you have a more pleasureful ride chatting to your fellow cyclist. Id rather take one second more to overtake a line of two cyclists than risking to hit one. | |||
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. You would not be saying that the cyclist would not pass onto the footpart are you? I'm not sure what you're asking me.. I think you're suggesting that cyclists cycle on footpaths happily enough? I haven't cycled in a while due to back issues but regularly you'd find three or four people together walking along taking up both footpath and cycle lane. Also, in many places, there might be a slight height difference between the cycle path and the footpath, usually due to the cycle path being put in as an afterthought and subsiding, and while 20mm might not make much difference to pedestrians, it can cause problems for a bicycle on narrow tyres. " No disrespect but all im seeing is excuses for the cyclists yet a complete disreguard for pedestrians. I can go down to the town where i live in south dublin and without fail i could end up with a video of someone at some stage cycling on the footpath.. but someone will justify it. | |||
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"So damned if they cycle on the road and damned if they don't "No one is saying that, but they do want to be able to cycle on the footpath, cycle lanes '100% agree with this" and on roads '100% agree with this' but not 4..5..6 a brest which people here said does not happen. A lot of them disreguard red lights, having lights on their bikes at night and worst of all sneaking up on the inside of cars, trucks and busses etc at traffic lights. Now cars is ok they same height as rhe cyclist but when they do it to a truck they are without a shadow of a doubt in that trucks blind spot. And if the truck touched them its the driver in trouble!!!. Not there are adverts from the RSA on tv asking for cars to give 1mtr amd trucks to give 2mtrs, hou would you suggest a motorist gives those distances to groups of chclists who are several a brest? Genuine question. | |||
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"Can we all agree that some cyclists are knobs as are some car drivers and we should all love and cherish and look out for each other "Absofuckinlutely.. | |||
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"Can we all agree that some cyclists are knobs as are some car drivers and we should all love and cherish and look out for each other "Yes, couldn't agree more. | |||
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"Can we all agree that some cyclists are knobs as are some car drivers and we should all love and cherish and look out for each other
Taxi drivers on the other hand..... "Here we fuckin go again... im.skippin this one and the bus one.. will join back in on the White Van Man one. | |||
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Taxi drivers on the other hand.....
Here we fuckin go again... im.skippin this one and the bus one.. will join back in on the White Van Man one. "Saw a picture of a dirty white van and someone wrote .....no tomatoes are kept overnight in this vehicle which I thought was funny | |||
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"Can we all agree that some cyclists are knobs as are some car drivers and we should all love and cherish and look out for each other "I've seen you drive. Drivers school me thinks
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"Can we all agree that some cyclists are knobs as are some car drivers and we should all love and cherish and look out for each other "Thankfully, we don't have to love or cherish someone to not behave like an entitled wanker regardless of our mode of transport. Just don't be an arse. | |||
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Thankfully, we don't have to love or cherish someone to not behave like an entitled wanker regardless of our mode of transport. Just don't be an arse. "Bingo | |||
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Taxi drivers on the other hand.....
Here we fuckin go again... im.skippin this one and the bus one.. will join back in on the White Van Man one.
Saw a picture of a dirty white van and someone wrote .....no tomatoes are kept overnight in this vehicle which I thought was funny "Tesco got tomatoes in store today | |||
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. You would not be saying that the cyclist would not pass onto the footpart are you? I'm not sure what you're asking me.. I think you're suggesting that cyclists cycle on footpaths happily enough? I haven't cycled in a while due to back issues but regularly you'd find three or four people together walking along taking up both footpath and cycle lane. Also, in many places, there might be a slight height difference between the cycle path and the footpath, usually due to the cycle path being put in as an afterthought and subsiding, and while 20mm might not make much difference to pedestrians, it can cause problems for a bicycle on narrow tyres. No disrespect but all im seeing is excuses for the cyclists yet a complete disreguard for pedestrians. I can go down to the town where i live in south dublin and without fail i could end up with a video of someone at some stage cycling on the footpath.. but someone will justify it. " Nobody here has justified cycling on footpaths at all. 
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"Can we all agree that some cyclists are knobs as are some car drivers and we should all love and cherish and look out for each other
Taxi drivers on the other hand.....
Here we fuckin go again... im.skippin this one and the bus one.. will join back in on the White Van Man one.
Saw a picture of a dirty white van and someone wrote .....no tomatoes are kept overnight in this vehicle which I thought was funny
Tesco got tomatoes in store today"Are the peppers in yet? Haven't had peppers in weeks | |||
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"Can we all agree that some cyclists are knobs as are some car drivers and we should all love and cherish and look out for each other
Taxi drivers on the other hand.....
Here we fuckin go again... im.skippin this one and the bus one.. will join back in on the White Van Man one.
Saw a picture of a dirty white van and someone wrote .....no tomatoes are kept overnight in this vehicle which I thought was funny
Tesco got tomatoes in store today
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Taxi drivers on the other hand.....
Here we fuckin go again... im.skippin this one and the bus one.. will join back in on the White Van Man one.
Saw a picture of a dirty white van and someone wrote .....no tomatoes are kept overnight in this vehicle which I thought was funny
Tesco got tomatoes in store today
Are the peppers in yet? Haven't had peppers in weeks "Got peppers yesterday in Tesco | |||
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Taxi drivers on the other hand.....
Here we fuckin go again... im.skippin this one and the bus one.. will join back in on the White Van Man one.
Saw a picture of a dirty white van and someone wrote .....no tomatoes are kept overnight in this vehicle which I thought was funny
Tesco got tomatoes in store today
Are the peppers in yet? Haven't had peppers in weeks
No spinach anywhere last night either! "You should have gone to Lidl, they had it all and no clubcard needed. | |||
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"Can we all agree that some cyclists are knobs as are some car drivers and we should all love and cherish and look out for each other
Taxi drivers on the other hand.....
Here we fuckin go again... im.skippin this one and the bus one.. will join back in on the White Van Man one.
Saw a picture of a dirty white van and someone wrote .....no tomatoes are kept overnight in this vehicle which I thought was funny
Tesco got tomatoes in store today
Are the peppers in yet? Haven't had peppers in weeks
No spinach anywhere last night either!
You should have gone to Lidl, they had it all and no clubcard needed.
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"Can we all agree that some cyclists are knobs as are some car drivers and we should all love and cherish and look out for each other
Taxi drivers on the other hand.....
Here we fuckin go again... im.skippin this one and the bus one.. will join back in on the White Van Man one.
Saw a picture of a dirty white van and someone wrote .....no tomatoes are kept overnight in this vehicle which I thought was funny
Tesco got tomatoes in store today
Are the peppers in yet? Haven't had peppers in weeks
No spinach anywhere last night either!
You should have gone to Lidl, they had it all and no clubcard needed.
That's where I always shop. I was in two different Lidl shops, followed by a trip to Eurospar and an Asian supermarket. Nothing. Bastards. "I'm sorry Michael, I panick bought them all, plus an aubergine.  | |||
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"Can we all agree that some cyclists are knobs as are some car drivers and we should all love and cherish and look out for each other
Taxi drivers on the other hand.....
Here we fuckin go again... im.skippin this one and the bus one.. will join back in on the White Van Man one.
Saw a picture of a dirty white van and someone wrote .....no tomatoes are kept overnight in this vehicle which I thought was funny
Tesco got tomatoes in store today
Are the peppers in yet? Haven't had peppers in weeks
No spinach anywhere last night either!
You should have gone to Lidl, they had it all and no clubcard needed.
That's where I always shop. I was in two different Lidl shops, followed by a trip to Eurospar and an Asian supermarket. Nothing. Bastards.
I'm sorry Michael, I panick bought them all, plus an aubergine. "The tomatoes i got yesterday had absolutely no taste and they were like a granny smith apple to eat. Gutted was not the word i would have used to discribe how i felt after waitin so long for a cheese and tomato toasted sambo. | |||
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"Can we all agree that some cyclists are knobs as are some car drivers and we should all love and cherish and look out for each other
Taxi drivers on the other hand.....
Here we fuckin go again... im.skippin this one and the bus one.. will join back in on the White Van Man one.
Saw a picture of a dirty white van and someone wrote .....no tomatoes are kept overnight in this vehicle which I thought was funny
Tesco got tomatoes in store today
Are the peppers in yet? Haven't had peppers in weeks
No spinach anywhere last night either!
You should have gone to Lidl, they had it all and no clubcard needed.
That's where I always shop. I was in two different Lidl shops, followed by a trip to Eurospar and an Asian supermarket. Nothing. Bastards.
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. You would not be saying that the cyclist would not pass onto the footpart are you? I'm not sure what you're asking me.. I think you're suggesting that cyclists cycle on footpaths happily enough? I haven't cycled in a while due to back issues but regularly you'd find three or four people together walking along taking up both footpath and cycle lane. Also, in many places, there might be a slight height difference between the cycle path and the footpath, usually due to the cycle path being put in as an afterthought and subsiding, and while 20mm might not make much difference to pedestrians, it can cause problems for a bicycle on narrow tyres. No disrespect but all im seeing is excuses for the cyclists yet a complete disreguard for pedestrians. I can go down to the town where i live in south dublin and without fail i could end up with a video of someone at some stage cycling on the footpath.. but someone will justify it. Nobody here has justified cycling on footpaths at all.
I can go down the town where I live in south Dublin and get you a video of cars parked on cycle lanes to balance that out for you. "And what about motorbikes and mopeds parked up completely on footpaths? You and i both know the rider did not get off the bike and push it from the road onto the path they were drove. We could go on all day about this, but as i said.. seems like excuses.. | |||
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. You would not be saying that the cyclist would not pass onto the footpart are you? I'm not sure what you're asking me.. I think you're suggesting that cyclists cycle on footpaths happily enough? I haven't cycled in a while due to back issues but regularly you'd find three or four people together walking along taking up both footpath and cycle lane. Also, in many places, there might be a slight height difference between the cycle path and the footpath, usually due to the cycle path being put in as an afterthought and subsiding, and while 20mm might not make much difference to pedestrians, it can cause problems for a bicycle on narrow tyres. No disrespect but all im seeing is excuses for the cyclists yet a complete disreguard for pedestrians. I can go down to the town where i live in south dublin and without fail i could end up with a video of someone at some stage cycling on the footpath.. but someone will justify it. Nobody here has justified cycling on footpaths at all.
I can go down the town where I live in south Dublin and get you a video of cars parked on cycle lanes to balance that out for you.
And what about motorbikes and mopeds parked up completely on footpaths? You and i both know the rider did not get off the bike and push it from the road onto the path they were drove. We could go on all day about this, but as i said.. seems like excuses.. "Again, you'll have to point me to where someone justified that because I haven't seen it. The thread was about cyclists from what I remember. | |||
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. You would not be saying that the cyclist would not pass onto the footpart are you? I'm not sure what you're asking me.. I think you're suggesting that cyclists cycle on footpaths happily enough? I haven't cycled in a while due to back issues but regularly you'd find three or four people together walking along taking up both footpath and cycle lane. Also, in many places, there might be a slight height difference between the cycle path and the footpath, usually due to the cycle path being put in as an afterthought and subsiding, and while 20mm might not make much difference to pedestrians, it can cause problems for a bicycle on narrow tyres. No disrespect but all im seeing is excuses for the cyclists yet a complete disreguard for pedestrians. I can go down to the town where i live in south dublin and without fail i could end up with a video of someone at some stage cycling on the footpath.. but someone will justify it. Nobody here has justified cycling on footpaths at all.
I can go down the town where I live in south Dublin and get you a video of cars parked on cycle lanes to balance that out for you.
And what about motorbikes and mopeds parked up completely on footpaths? You and i both know the rider did not get off the bike and push it from the road onto the path they were drove. We could go on all day about this, but as i said.. seems like excuses..
Again, you'll have to point me to where someone justified that because I haven't seen it. The thread was about cyclists from what I remember. "So it was about "cyclists" but cars, vans, trucks, taxis, e scooters, e bikes were all ok to be mentioned. But as soon as i mention in a rebuttal to your "car in cycle lane" with bikes and mopeds being driven up onto pavements i get told "the post was about cyclists" ok i understand. 2 wheels good, 4 wheels bad ???? | |||
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. You would not be saying that the cyclist would not pass onto the footpart are you? I'm not sure what you're asking me.. I think you're suggesting that cyclists cycle on footpaths happily enough? I haven't cycled in a while due to back issues but regularly you'd find three or four people together walking along taking up both footpath and cycle lane. Also, in many places, there might be a slight height difference between the cycle path and the footpath, usually due to the cycle path being put in as an afterthought and subsiding, and while 20mm might not make much difference to pedestrians, it can cause problems for a bicycle on narrow tyres. No disrespect but all im seeing is excuses for the cyclists yet a complete disreguard for pedestrians. I can go down to the town where i live in south dublin and without fail i could end up with a video of someone at some stage cycling on the footpath.. but someone will justify it. Nobody here has justified cycling on footpaths at all.
I can go down the town where I live in south Dublin and get you a video of cars parked on cycle lanes to balance that out for you.
And what about motorbikes and mopeds parked up completely on footpaths? You and i both know the rider did not get off the bike and push it from the road onto the path they were drove. We could go on all day about this, but as i said.. seems like excuses..
Again, you'll have to point me to where someone justified that because I haven't seen it. The thread was about cyclists from what I remember.
So it was about "cyclists" but cars, vans, trucks, taxis, e scooters, e bikes were all ok to be mentioned. But as soon as i mention in a rebuttal to your "car in cycle lane" with bikes and mopeds being driven up onto pavements i get told "the post was about cyclists" ok i understand. 2 wheels good, 4 wheels bad ????"You're the one who went off onto a tangent about cyclists on footpaths. | |||
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. You would not be saying that the cyclist would not pass onto the footpart are you? I'm not sure what you're asking me.. I think you're suggesting that cyclists cycle on footpaths happily enough? I haven't cycled in a while due to back issues but regularly you'd find three or four people together walking along taking up both footpath and cycle lane. Also, in many places, there might be a slight height difference between the cycle path and the footpath, usually due to the cycle path being put in as an afterthought and subsiding, and while 20mm might not make much difference to pedestrians, it can cause problems for a bicycle on narrow tyres. No disrespect but all im seeing is excuses for the cyclists yet a complete disreguard for pedestrians. I can go down to the town where i live in south dublin and without fail i could end up with a video of someone at some stage cycling on the footpath.. but someone will justify it. Nobody here has justified cycling on footpaths at all.
I can go down the town where I live in south Dublin and get you a video of cars parked on cycle lanes to balance that out for you.
And what about motorbikes and mopeds parked up completely on footpaths? You and i both know the rider did not get off the bike and push it from the road onto the path they were drove. We could go on all day about this, but as i said.. seems like excuses..
Again, you'll have to point me to where someone justified that because I haven't seen it. The thread was about cyclists from what I remember.
So it was about "cyclists" but cars, vans, trucks, taxis, e scooters, e bikes were all ok to be mentioned. But as soon as i mention in a rebuttal to your "car in cycle lane" with bikes and mopeds being driven up onto pavements i get told "the post was about cyclists" ok i understand. 2 wheels good, 4 wheels bad ????
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. You would not be saying that the cyclist would not pass onto the footpart are you? I'm not sure what you're asking me.. I think you're suggesting that cyclists cycle on footpaths happily enough? I haven't cycled in a while due to back issues but regularly you'd find three or four people together walking along taking up both footpath and cycle lane. Also, in many places, there might be a slight height difference between the cycle path and the footpath, usually due to the cycle path being put in as an afterthought and subsiding, and while 20mm might not make much difference to pedestrians, it can cause problems for a bicycle on narrow tyres. No disrespect but all im seeing is excuses for the cyclists yet a complete disreguard for pedestrians. I can go down to the town where i live in south dublin and without fail i could end up with a video of someone at some stage cycling on the footpath.. but someone will justify it. Nobody here has justified cycling on footpaths at all.
I can go down the town where I live in south Dublin and get you a video of cars parked on cycle lanes to balance that out for you.
And what about motorbikes and mopeds parked up completely on footpaths? You and i both know the rider did not get off the bike and push it from the road onto the path they were drove. We could go on all day about this, but as i said.. seems like excuses..
Again, you'll have to point me to where someone justified that because I haven't seen it. The thread was about cyclists from what I remember.
So it was about "cyclists" but cars, vans, trucks, taxis, e scooters, e bikes were all ok to be mentioned. But as soon as i mention in a rebuttal to your "car in cycle lane" with bikes and mopeds being driven up onto pavements i get told "the post was about cyclists" ok i understand. 2 wheels good, 4 wheels bad ????
You're the one who went off onto a tangent about cyclists on footpaths.
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"Im a keen cyclist i know we have our haters but can we please keep in mind we dont have the safety of a car or other large vehicle all we have is lycra not to flattering at times. The other day i was out with my buddy on a busy road we were cycling in the hard shoulder when a number of cars decided to blow us off the road even tho we wernt on it.Yes i agree there is cyclists who think they own the road but the majority dont and its actually safer riding two abreast as opposed to single file which gives you a longer line to overtake! So please ALL becareful we are all something to someone else father,mother sister or brother thank you Probably because you both were cycling parallel to a dedicated cycle lane. Not all roads have cycle lanes we dont all live in towns and citys unfortunately Most of the ones that do have shite cycle lanes anyway. I cycle occasionally, although rarely enough these days, but the quality of our cycle paths is deplorable. Most of them co exist with footpaths without any barrier between the two so pedestrians just walk on both. Also, the build quality is abysmal, mostly having been done by builders as part of the planning requirements, and slapped in as cheaply as possible and being a great place for all the services with the resulting manholes. They're as bumpy as fuck. I was cycling on the cycle path along the R136 between Lucan and Clondalkin a couple of years ago. Passing the roundabout at Grange Castle, the fire brigade, with the assistance of the Gardaí were sweeping up broken glass and oily sand/bits of car following a collision on the road and were shovelling it straight onto the cycle path. I pointed out the stupidity of it but wasn't exactly thanked for it. That's not unusual. You would not be saying that the cyclist would not pass onto the footpart are you? I'm not sure what you're asking me.. I think you're suggesting that cyclists cycle on footpaths happily enough? I haven't cycled in a while due to back issues but regularly you'd find three or four people together walking along taking up both footpath and cycle lane. Also, in many places, there might be a slight height difference between the cycle path and the footpath, usually due to the cycle path being put in as an afterthought and subsiding, and while 20mm might not make much difference to pedestrians, it can cause problems for a bicycle on narrow tyres. No disrespect but all im seeing is excuses for the cyclists yet a complete disreguard for pedestrians. I can go down to the town where i live in south dublin and without fail i could end up with a video of someone at some stage cycling on the footpath.. but someone will justify it. Nobody here has justified cycling on footpaths at all.
I can go down the town where I live in south Dublin and get you a video of cars parked on cycle lanes to balance that out for you.
And what about motorbikes and mopeds parked up completely on footpaths? You and i both know the rider did not get off the bike and push it from the road onto the path they were drove. We could go on all day about this, but as i said.. seems like excuses..
Again, you'll have to point me to where someone justified that because I haven't seen it. The thread was about cyclists from what I remember.
So it was about "cyclists" but cars, vans, trucks, taxis, e scooters, e bikes were all ok to be mentioned. But as soon as i mention in a rebuttal to your "car in cycle lane" with bikes and mopeds being driven up onto pavements i get told "the post was about cyclists" ok i understand. 2 wheels good, 4 wheels bad ????
You're the one who went off onto a tangent about cyclists on footpaths.
Im guessing you like to be right all the time?
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"200 million on bike lanes that will not henerate a cent to maintain those lanes yet every motorist has to pay road tax and tolls unless they drive a vintage car. As well as the cyclist and e scooter mob whizzing in between the road, pavement and cycle lane without a seconds thought of looking behind them." Not sure if someone has already educated you on the big faux par. You don't pay road tax, as it was abolished in the 1930's. You pay a tax based on the amount of pollution your car gives off, everyone pays for the upkeep of the roads when they pay their council tax. So in a way, cyclists actually do pay to use the roads. I will cover any insurance remark as well. The road traffic act states, that only motorized vehicles need to have insurance in place. | |||
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"How about the crazy notion that people acknowledge that the heavier, faster, larger motorised vehicles that exist today and the infrastructure they dominate does not reflect that of decades gone by where it was a slower pace with fewer vehicles and different way of life as far as how much/often people travelled by car. Cycling today is not a safe method of transport. It should be a sport in a designated, off-road, off-footpath cycling area Set the friction and hate between folk aside and be rational. It's just. Not. Safe. I hate to come upon a cyclist as they make an inherently dangerous thing (driving) massively more risky. This week, I was driving home at 11:30pm on a winding country road in pitch black, no street lights. Came around a blind bend (15mph under the speed limit) to come upon a cyclist tootling along in dark clothing. The only thing I could see was one low strength red light. If a car had been travelling the other way, the cars lights would have drowned out that piddly wee rear light and I would have had (a) no chance to see him and (b) nowhere to manoeuvre around him. He'd be dead. Madness. People getting on a comparatively slow moving vehicle to try and operate in and around vehicles moving at lethal speeds wearing zero protection bar a plastic hat are not wise. Even motorcycle riders are high risk and they are able to match their speed to the other vehicles. It's like a worm versus a tortoise. I know which I'd rather be if I were to get stood on. Ridiculous analogy perhaps, but it's true" You might like to read the highway code sections 204 to 225, you might find it interesting. | |||
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"200 million on bike lanes that will not henerate a cent to maintain those lanes yet every motorist has to pay road tax and tolls unless they drive a vintage car. As well as the cyclist and e scooter mob whizzing in between the road, pavement and cycle lane without a seconds thought of looking behind them. Not sure if someone has already educated you on the big faux par. You don't pay road tax, as it was abolished in the 1930's. You pay a tax based on the amount of pollution your car gives off, everyone pays for the upkeep of the roads when they pay their council tax. So in a way, cyclists actually do pay to use the roads. I will cover any insurance remark as well. The road traffic act states, that only motorized vehicles need to have insurance in place. " We have a different system in Ireland to the one you mentioned | |||
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"200 million on bike lanes that will not henerate a cent to maintain those lanes yet every motorist has to pay road tax and tolls unless they drive a vintage car. As well as the cyclist and e scooter mob whizzing in between the road, pavement and cycle lane without a seconds thought of looking behind them. Not sure if someone has already educated you on the big faux par. You don't pay road tax, as it was abolished in the 1930's. You pay a tax based on the amount of pollution your car gives off, everyone pays for the upkeep of the roads when they pay their council tax. So in a way, cyclists actually do pay to use the roads. I will cover any insurance remark as well. The road traffic act states, that only motorized vehicles need to have insurance in place. " And don't forget that any self respecting cyclist has a cycling Ireland licence which includes insurance with coverage just as good as car insurance. And for the record I'm a cyclist as well as a motorist | |||
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"200 million on bike lanes that will not henerate a cent to maintain those lanes yet every motorist has to pay road tax and tolls unless they drive a vintage car. As well as the cyclist and e scooter mob whizzing in between the road, pavement and cycle lane without a seconds thought of looking behind them. Not sure if someone has already educated you on the big faux par. You don't pay road tax, as it was abolished in the 1930's. You pay a tax based on the amount of pollution your car gives off, everyone pays for the upkeep of the roads when they pay their council tax. So in a way, cyclists actually do pay to use the roads. I will cover any insurance remark as well. The road traffic act states, that only motorized vehicles need to have insurance in place. And don't forget that any self respecting cyclist has a cycling Ireland licence which includes insurance with coverage just as good as car insurance. And for the record I'm a cyclist as well as a motorist " I did not know that if it includes passing a test which includes a theory test about the rules of the road and hand signals for turning into roads or moving lanes or includes the rule for right of way at yellow boxes I would consider this needs to be law for bike riders! | |||
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"200 million on bike lanes that will not henerate a cent to maintain those lanes yet every motorist has to pay road tax and tolls unless they drive a vintage car. As well as the cyclist and e scooter mob whizzing in between the road, pavement and cycle lane without a seconds thought of looking behind them. Not sure if someone has already educated you on the big faux par. You don't pay road tax, as it was abolished in the 1930's. You pay a tax based on the amount of pollution your car gives off, everyone pays for the upkeep of the roads when they pay their council tax. So in a way, cyclists actually do pay to use the roads. I will cover any insurance remark as well. The road traffic act states, that only motorized vehicles need to have insurance in place. And don't forget that any self respecting cyclist has a cycling Ireland licence which includes insurance with coverage just as good as car insurance. And for the record I'm a cyclist as well as a motorist I did not know that if it includes passing a test which includes a theory test about the rules of the road and hand signals for turning into roads or moving lanes or includes the rule for right of way at yellow boxes I would consider this needs to be law for bike riders!" I totally agree there are a lot of morons on bikes but a test isn't going to change that much. Just look at motorists for the proof of that. | |||
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"200 million on bike lanes that will not henerate a cent to maintain those lanes yet every motorist has to pay road tax and tolls unless they drive a vintage car. As well as the cyclist and e scooter mob whizzing in between the road, pavement and cycle lane without a seconds thought of looking behind them. Not sure if someone has already educated you on the big faux par. You don't pay road tax, as it was abolished in the 1930's. You pay a tax based on the amount of pollution your car gives off, everyone pays for the upkeep of the roads when they pay their council tax. So in a way, cyclists actually do pay to use the roads. I will cover any insurance remark as well. The road traffic act states, that only motorized vehicles need to have insurance in place. And don't forget that any self respecting cyclist has a cycling Ireland licence which includes insurance with coverage just as good as car insurance. And for the record I'm a cyclist as well as a motorist " You will find that your CI licence will not cover you whilst cycling alone. It's technically only valid for an organised group ride/event where you have officially signed on. It's technically only valid when CI sanctioned event. Even then it will be investigated CI insurer and it will take forever to be paid out if passed for payment. Seen it's limitations frustrate a few pals over the years  | |||
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"As long as cyclists wear the proper safety gear and don't disturb the flow of traffic they can just carry on. I know that the state of cycle paths is usually disgusting between broken glass and dog crap is usually why you cycle on the road. Saying that however any cyclists should have insurance and should have to pay road tax or similar as they are using the roads so should help pay for it's upkeep " Education time! You don't pay road tax, as it was abolished in the 1930's. You pay a tax based on the amount of pollution your car gives off, everyone pays for the upkeep of the roads when they pay their council tax. So in a way, cyclists actually do pay to use the roads. I will cover any insurance remark as well. The road traffic act states, that only motorized vehicles need to have insurance in place. | |||
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"As long as cyclists wear the proper safety gear and don't disturb the flow of traffic they can just carry on. I know that the state of cycle paths is usually disgusting between broken glass and dog crap is usually why you cycle on the road. Saying that however any cyclists should have insurance and should have to pay road tax or similar as they are using the roads so should help pay for it's upkeep Education time! You don't pay road tax, as it was abolished in the 1930's. You pay a tax based on the amount of pollution your car gives off, everyone pays for the upkeep of the roads when they pay their council tax. So in a way, cyclists actually do pay to use the roads. I will cover any insurance remark as well. The road traffic act states, that only motorized vehicles need to have insurance in place." We don't pay council tax in NI. We pay domestic rates which contribute to public services such as health, education, justice and other regional services but not roads. Car tax goes into a central fund and the Dept of Infrastructure who are responsible for roads is then allocated an annual budget like every other dept. | |||
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