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"Let's not forget all of those, who were blasted to oblivion during that war. Regardles of race, nationality or religion." Absolutely | |||
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"People will forget. It's over 100years ago. The further removed we become the more the next generations will forget. " ...and hence there's the 11/11, the 08/05 and so on. Hell, even the Battle of Waterloo should be remembered as a poignant reminder of what personal ambition of few, raw stupidity and brutal animal instinct dressed into national pride, or righteous religious glory can do. And it's nothing human race can be proud of. Our duty is to remember and remind ourselves of those shameful years, so we - and our children - can learn and, hopefully, never - ever slip down to that gutter again. | |||
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"If the poppy bullshit was just about those that fought and died in ww1 and ww2 I'd support it but the British government wrapped all service men into it to save having to give veterans a day of their own they ruined the 11th day of the 11th month for those that actually sacrificed for the good of humanity. So I'd rather not observe that day " It’s now a “festival of remembrance”. Have you ever heard or seen a bigger pile of shite in your life? Captain Tom on the back of lorries, premiership teams all have poppies sewn into their shirts, post boxes with woolly poppy hats sewn onto them… jingoistic bullshit - and that’s just in England! | |||
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"Don't forget the 50k Irish men who died in WW1 fighting for the British army Lest we forget " Lest we forget??? Take a look around at what we have done with what they died to protect and tell me we haven't forgotten them.  | |||
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"Lest we forget??? Take a look around at what we have done with what they died to protect and tell me we haven't forgotten them. "Never ceases to amaze me that people take for granted so easily the society we live in. | |||
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"Then you don't know much about your history or the price paid by all service men and woman to give us security and a right to free speech and better living I think it is wonderful to remember the fallen from all wars as lots made the ultimate sacrifice " I know plenty about my history, including more recent times when the same army were out shooting civilians both here and abroad | |||
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" I know plenty about my history, including more recent times when the same army were out shooting civilians both here and abroad "Bitter much? If you don’t like the post then why don’t you just not comment? Or why don’t you start a separate post about your comments?Sounds like you’d be the sort that would travel 20 miles to a band parade and to get offended.  | |||
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" I know plenty about my history, including more recent times when the same army were out shooting civilians both here and abroad
Bitter much? If you don’t like the post then why don’t you just not comment? Or why don’t you start a separate post about your comments?Sounds like you’d be the sort that would travel 20 miles to a band parade and to get offended. "Not bitter at all. People are free to “remember” all they want. Just don’t be surprised when you’re ridiculed for taking the piss (you know, like solemnly remembering on the Irish forum of a fxcking swingers’ site!!!) PS now why would I be offended by a load of fatmen dressed up as milkmen?  | |||
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" I know plenty about my history, including more recent times when the same army were out shooting civilians both here and abroad
Bitter much? If you don’t like the post then why don’t you just not comment? Or why don’t you start a separate post about your comments?Sounds like you’d be the sort that would travel 20 miles to a band parade and to get offended.
Not bitter at all. People are free to “remember” all they want.
Just don’t be surprised when you’re ridiculed for taking the piss (you know, like solemnly remembering on the Irish forum of a fxcking swingers’ site!!!)
PS now why would I be offended by a load of fatmen dressed up as milkmen? " | |||
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" Not bitter at all. People are free to “remember” all they want. Just don’t be surprised when you’re ridiculed for taking the piss (you know, like solemnly remembering on the Irish forum of a fxcking swingers’ site!!!) PS now why would I be offended by a load of fatmen dressed up as milkmen? "Bigot much? | |||
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"Sad......the deaths of men and women can be made political" Wars are rarely nonpolitical | |||
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"Sad......the deaths of men and women can be made political Wars are rarely nonpolitical" That 1st round gets shot at you.......politics and bull shit dont matter | |||
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"Sad......the deaths of men and women can be made political Wars are rarely nonpolitical That 1st round gets shot at you.......politics and bull shit dont matter" I hope Poland and the rest of the NATO dont agree with you. | |||
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"Sad......the deaths of men and women can be made political Wars are rarely nonpolitical That 1st round gets shot at you.......politics and bull shit dont matter I hope Poland and the rest of the NATO dont agree with you." That going be interesting to see what the people in charge do | |||
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"Sad......the deaths of men and women can be made political Wars are rarely nonpolitical That 1st round gets shot at you.......politics and bull shit dont matter I hope Poland and the rest of the NATO dont agree with you. That going be interesting to see what the people in charge do " Yes let's see how the politics works out | |||
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"Sad......the deaths of men and women can be made political Wars are rarely nonpolitical That 1st round gets shot at you.......politics and bull shit dont matter I hope Poland and the rest of the NATO dont agree with you. That going be interesting to see what the people in charge do Yes let's see how the politics works out" So far the talk is trying to find out where the missile came from......no doubt Russian had input but they not sure if came from there | |||
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"Sad......the deaths of men and women can be made political Wars are rarely nonpolitical That 1st round gets shot at you.......politics and bull shit dont matter I hope Poland and the rest of the NATO dont agree with you. That going be interesting to see what the people in charge do Yes let's see how the politics works out So far the talk is trying to find out where the missile came from......no doubt Russian had input but they not sure if came from there" Early talk is Russia made but not fired by from Russia due to trajectory. However we all know that going into another country to attack isn’t something the Russian aren’t scared of doing. | |||
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"Sad......the deaths of men and women can be made political Wars are rarely nonpolitical That 1st round gets shot at you.......politics and bull shit dont matter I hope Poland and the rest of the NATO dont agree with you. That going be interesting to see what the people in charge do Yes let's see how the politics works out So far the talk is trying to find out where the missile came from......no doubt Russian had input but they not sure if came from there Early talk is Russia made but not fired by from Russia due to trajectory. However we all know that going into another country to attack isn’t something the Russian aren’t scared of doing. " Either way.....armys are just waiting for their time to step in | |||
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"......armys are just waiting for their time to step in" As are all armies. That's the point of them. | |||
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"Frankly, I feel no sense of connection whatsoever with either of the two world wars, or any of the previous or subsequent wars; the wearing of red poppies means nothing to me, personally, although I would never criticise or ridicule the connection that others feel with those events. Wars are the manifestation of greed, power, violence and subjugation and were formerly fought by poor, uneducated and unemployed people. That situation has marginally changed. The two world wars were industrialised slaughter. Nearly 40,000 British men were killed on the first day of the Battle of the Somme; utterly pointless. And let us not forget that the Americans dropped more bombs on north Vietnam and Cambodia over Christmas in 1972, than were dropped during the entire second world war; they killed millions during the Vietnam war, yet all the propaganda in the free west focuses on the names on the Vietnam war wall in Washington DC. Generals, industrialists and politicians don't give a second thought to cannon fodder, of which there is an endless supply, if necessary by conscription." As a war, the first one has no redeeming features. It was fought not for the freedom of small nations but for the protection of empires using ordinary young people as cannon fodder. I have plenty of sympathy for the victims of the aristocrats on both sides and have no problem with them being remembered. The second war has the defeat of fascism to redeem it, although nobody has a problem with fascism in Spain, and the Greek regime that war put in place by the nazis was maintained by the allies after whether war. The problem for me with the poppy is that the RBL itself tells us the poppy is worn not just to commemorate those deaths but also to show support for all former and current members of the armed forces. I'm not quite sure why people ignore that fact when criticising James McClean and others who refuse to wear them. I'm also not sure why people who want to simply commemorate the dead of the first or second war can't just develop and distribute their own memorial symbol without the ties to the RBL? As for Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, the most bombed country in history, people are still being maimed and killed by unexploded American ordnance all these years later. Shocking! | |||
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"Let's hope all the future kids forget that we have spent our history destroying each other and settling issues with violence. Let them forget that this is what we have thought them and let the find a better way .. Brave and good people have died on all sides in many wars ALWAYS NEEDLESSLY, so yes I hope people choose to remember the better things us prehistoric humans did, in the future " Fighting/battles/wars have existed as long as humans have, with a few lulls here and there. I see no reason to believe that people will ever choose a different way to settle disagreements. | |||
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"Let's hope all the future kids forget that we have spent our history destroying each other and settling issues with violence. Let them forget that this is what we have thought them and let the find a better way .. Brave and good people have died on all sides in many wars ALWAYS NEEDLESSLY, so yes I hope people choose to remember the better things us prehistoric humans did, in the future Fighting/battles/wars have existed as long as humans have, with a few lulls here and there. I see no reason to believe that people will ever choose a different way to settle disagreements. "I am a vetern.......i fought wars on many places for many reasons 1) so that the my niece and nephew grow up in a world with freedom and peace......and i wish this for kids and youth So i pray to this day that this will happen | |||
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"Let's hope all the future kids forget that we have spent our history destroying each other and settling issues with violence. Let them forget that this is what we have thought them and let the find a better way .. Brave and good people have died on all sides in many wars ALWAYS NEEDLESSLY, so yes I hope people choose to remember the better things us prehistoric humans did, in the future Fighting/battles/wars have existed as long as humans have, with a few lulls here and there. I see no reason to believe that people will ever choose a different way to settle disagreements. "Thats sad and hopeless. | |||
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"Don't forget the 50k Irish men who died in WW1 fighting for the British army Lest we forget " Firstly you might not have heard but we in Ireland have our own National day of remembrance for all Irish men and women who served and died in conflicts be it Lebanon,Ballinamore,Kilmichael,Congo or the Somme It takes place every year on the Sunday closest to July 11th Secondly when you buy and wear a poppy as per the British Legion website you honor and remember all British service men and women,this covers the likes of the Somme,but all the Tans,the Paras in Ballymurpy and Derry and also the SAS who ran amok in Afghanistan in the past 20 years. Thirdly,when you buy your poppy the money goes to support ex British servicemen,Suppirt takes many forms including access to help with legal fees,so the likes of soldier F can access funds to help in his defence when he shot dead innocent unarmed civilians,the same with the soldier who shot dead Aiden McAnaspie coming from a Gaelic Football match. Fourthly the British spend Billions on their defence budget each year (nearly £49bn in 2021),Why isn’t a minute percentage of this not put aside and spent on their “hero’s” who suffer from the likes of PTSD and suffer from higher than normal rates of mental illness,depression and homelessness than the general population. Why do they have to resort to charity? | |||
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