FabSwingers.com forum: SO YOU'RE A MODERN MAN?

By *easingTim OP Man
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

I'm just read a few articles about what the "modern man"

is supposed to be like. In essence, this man is supposed to walk a fine line today of strength and determination

wrapped neatly with meekness and humility

Other qualities cited for the 'modern man' included being affectionate, a leaning towards veganism

being environmentally aware, taking pride in their appearance and standing up for a cause

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So in light of all the above Fab men folk, how do you measure up to being "a modern man"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So..just not being a "lad" then?

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By * la carteCouple
over a year ago

Dublin

The modern man is vegan?

And meek?! Sounds awfully sketchy

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By *edxxxzzzMan
over a year ago

Enniskillen

Not too far off I guess.

Although it's a bit much to expect so many different variables off one person.

Interesting question.

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By *easingTim OP Man
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

"The modern man is vegan?

And meek?! Sounds awfully sketchy

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Google "modern man qualites"

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By * la carteCouple
over a year ago

Dublin

The modern man is vegan?

And meek?! Sounds awfully sketchy

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Google "modern man qualites"

I just did - that's hilarious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought snowflakism was over???

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By *ot neuteredMan
over a year ago

Kildare

There is huge money behind the vegan campaign, loads of highly processed crap, containing multiple ingredients, most of which would not be considered food if served on their own, all smartly packaged to pretend its saving the planet

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By *easingTim OP Man
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

The modern man is vegan?

And meek?! Sounds awfully sketchy

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Google "modern man qualites"

I just did - that's hilarious

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By *easingTim OP Man
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

"There is huge money behind the vegan campaign, loads of highly processed crap, containing multiple ingredients, most of which would not be considered food if served on their own, all smartly packaged to pretend its saving the planet "

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Agreed. There's even a push towards veganism and "movies" spouting how a plant based diet is superior to a meat based one...

Case in point, in GAME CHANGERS, Nate Diaz (a vegan) beats Conor McG (a meat eater)

proving the superiority of a plant based diet

So going on a vegan diet trumps talent, drive and athletic ability

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

I think you can be a modern man without being like one of the happy pear lads

You don't need to be vegan, but it's good to have an awareness and an ethical idea of what you eat and how you live. Not just accepting the status quo and instead making your own conscious choices about what's right and wrong.

I don't think you need to be meek, but being in touch with the feminine side, while having the urge to protect and step up if necessary.

You don't need to be an eco warrior, but you aren't throwing your can out of the car window, and are doing your part within the constraints that you live within.

Modern masculinity isn't toxic masculinity, but a considered and considerate masculinity which doesn't need to punch down to feel strong.

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By * la carteCouple
over a year ago

Dublin

"I think you can be a modern man without being like one of the happy pear lads

I don't think you need to be meek, but being in touch with the feminine side, while having the urge to protect and step up if necessary.

You don't need to be an eco warrior, but you aren't throwing your can out of the car window, and are doing your part within the constraints that you live within.

Modern masculinity isn't toxic masculinity, but a considered and considerate masculinity which doesn't need to punch down to feel strong."

Nicely put

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think for the most part it's about looking after your appearance of course not in a vain manner but more in just a upkeep of yourself if that's makes sense.

As for all the meekness stuff, I don't know if that is exactly a good thing.

But not being afraid to show emotion or talk about your feelings in a positive or negative way I think is something that could be considered "the modern man"

Carl

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

What is modern? It that not the same as a fad?

When is something no longer modern?

I don't follow trends. I am whoever and whatever I am and I'm the sum of my own personal life experiences.

I'm not the sum of someone else's boxticking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm only five of the things you've mentioned so nearly a modern man I guess

Jay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've no issue with veganism, or anyone's diet for that matter (and I don't know why why it's such an issue for some of ye)..but those Happy Pears lads are enormously irritating. Air of smugness of them. Pricks.

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By * la carteCouple
over a year ago

Dublin

"I've no issue with veganism, or anyone's diet for that matter (and I don't know why why it's such an issue for some of ye)..but those Happy Pears lads are enormously irritating. Air of smugness of them. Pricks."

For the record, I have no issues with anyone who chooses to eat a vegan diet!

I just thought it amusing that according to the Google search for modern man qualities, as pointed out, among the first 3 listed, veganism was one. Frankly, I think there are a lot more important qualities and attributes a man can have (modern or not) than how they choose to nourish themselves!

Now it's a study of 2000 people by Wilkinson Sword (if I remember correctly), so not exactly a huge cohort of opinions.

But working nicely in line with the current climate change topic - where the meat industry and farmers are slaughtered (excuse the pun)

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By *indenMan
over a year ago

Naas which is South West of Dublin

I was born in the last Millennium so clearly not modern.

More of a classic or vintage I’d say, in need of a restomod…..

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By *heBlowinsCouple
over a year ago

West Cork

"I think you can be a modern man without being like one of the happy pear lads

I don't think you need to be meek, but being in touch with the feminine side, while having the urge to protect and step up if necessary.

You don't need to be an eco warrior, but you aren't throwing your can out of the car window, and are doing your part within the constraints that you live within.

Modern masculinity isn't toxic masculinity, but a considered and considerate masculinity which doesn't need to punch down to feel strong."

Very well put indeed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I must be officially ‘middle aged’ then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the last few years I have reduced my meat intake to 1 cow 1 pig and half a sheep. I voted for a gay guy in the local election last time out. I spend an extra 1 minute to trim my pubic hair to make sure it’s even. I invested in a proper set of wrenches and rarely use a vise grip and hammer any more. I’m even contemplating using a body wash instead of shampoo to wash my hairy chest in the shower. I nearly cried when Galway lost to limerick in the hurling. I’m going to read my first book anytime soon. I don’t think you can get more modern.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think you can be a modern man without being like one of the happy pear lads

I don't think you need to be meek, but being in touch with the feminine side, while having the urge to protect and step up if necessary.

You don't need to be an eco warrior, but you aren't throwing your can out of the car window, and are doing your part within the constraints that you live within.

Modern masculinity isn't toxic masculinity, but a considered and considerate masculinity which doesn't need to punch down to feel strong."

really well put

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

Modern man is highly likely to be a person who is astutely attuned to current issues of the day and is responsive to those issues, which other modern minded people are likely to be attracted to.

But modern men exist at different strata in disparate societies and in different cultures, so the concept of the modern man is not a one size fits all construct.

A modern man on Inismor on the Aran Islands is going to look very different from a modern man within an Indian family in, say, Leicestershire, but their receptiveness to changing social mores and cultural adaptation may have similarities.

The 'modern man' is naturally adaptable, flexible and responsive, within his own context.

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

Would I personally classify myself as a modern man?

I do try to be, but I probably have a number of 'blind spots' that I am unaware of; but by acknowledging my awareness of this, indicates my intention to strive to remain up-to-date!

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By *dfabMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne

I'm a Neanderthal then.

Barbecuing meat is one of my favourite things to do, as well as eating it. I have pronounced canines, from genetic hereditary design, that were not designed for eating much lettuce or tomatoes.

I Brew my own beer so have not a svelte figure but a fatter wallet to match my silhouette.

I do most of the cooking and the grass cutting.

Also pay for the roof over our heads, through working a hard but rewarding job.

I may not be the Google version of the modern man but I'm a damn sight happier in myself than I imagine that sad sack of shite is and I'm fairly sure that I have lived a much wilder and enjoyable life than he has.

Whilst mine might be a shorter life, as Ricky Gervais says, have you seen the majority of people who live longer and what their existence is? No thanks!

Happy to have done it properly

In my opinion, of course. Yes! Yours is just as valid

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home

To be honest I'm a bog standard man honest hard working with no frills

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By *lameBoyMan
over a year ago

Enfield & Dublin

I treat everyone with equal respect. I hold the door for ladies and elderly. I’m as tough as nails but I have a therapist. I curse like a docker but can compose a letter that equals any solicitor. I don’t sugarcoat things and I don’t tell lies. I slag everyone including vegans, pescatarians, LGBTQ+, minorities, disabled and anyone else who pops their head above the trenches. I will also be the first person to help them should they need it. I eat meat and drive a diesel van and car. I don’t subscribe to the electric vehicle will save the world ideology. I eat meat and do manual labour. I have no problem with changing nappies on either end of the spectrum, young or old.

I am a modern man in my opinion. I put stock in tradition but form my own decision on facts where possible. I’m not easily led and am sceptical about most things. Following fads blindly is a sure fire path to failure.

Modern or not, just be you and be true to yourself and you won’t go too far wrong.

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By *easingTim OP Man
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

In an article called ARE YOU A MODERN MAN? ONLY 35% OF MEN SAY THEY ARE, Caroline Allen

stated that researchers by Wilkinson Sword listed 50 signs of a "modern man" including

- Is conscious about the environment

- Can put up shelves

- Has a skincare regime

- Enjoys baking

- Happy to have a self-pamper night - face mask, bubble bath

- Is able to style his children's hair

- Meditates

- Drinks cocktails

- Does yoga

- Is a vegan

Now, you'd have to be James bleeding Bond to be anyway proficient in most of the above. I'm actually surprised they didn't include

"cries during sex (with himself)"

Granted, a few knuckle dragging troglodytes and testosterone fuelled alpha males walk amongst us and that's fine as we need some diversity. However, I think modern man should talk about things like mental health with his mates, respects the environment, is chatty and charming but calls out B.S when he sees it and has a backbone when one is needed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the last few years I have reduced my meat intake to 1 cow 1 pig and half a sheep. I voted for a gay guy in the local election last time out. I spend an extra 1 minute to trim my pubic hair to make sure it’s even. I invested in a proper set of wrenches and rarely use a vise grip and hammer any more. I’m even contemplating using a body wash instead of shampoo to wash my hairy chest in the shower. I nearly cried when Galway lost to limerick in the hurling. I’m going to read my first book anytime soon. I don’t think you can get more modern. "

This is so raw and emotional. Well done, you are definitely an inspiration for men. Keep it up lad

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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago

Dublin

- Can put up shelves

- Has a skincare regime

- Enjoys baking

- Happy to have a self-pamper night - face mask, bubble bath

- Meditates

- Drinks cocktails

- Does yoga

Stuff like this this I find ridiculous on any 'modern man' list. A modern man should have compassion and empathy, and that's pretty much it.

Outside of that he should be free to have whatever likes or interest he has without being judged for them. Men's mental health, especially young men, is a huge issue and shit like 'here's a list of 100 things you need to do to be a modern man to attract a women" are terrible f9r young men's mental health.

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By *uriousVoyeurMan
over a year ago

Northside

"I treat everyone with equal respect. I hold the door for ladies and elderly. I’m as tough as nails but I have a therapist. I curse like a docker but can compose a letter that equals any solicitor. I don’t sugarcoat things and I don’t tell lies. I slag everyone including vegans, pescatarians, LGBTQ+, minorities, disabled and anyone else who pops their head above the trenches. I will also be the first person to help them should they need it. I eat meat and drive a diesel van and car. I don’t subscribe to the electric vehicle will save the world ideology. I eat meat and do manual labour. I have no problem with changing nappies on either end of the spectrum, young or old.

Modern or not, just be you and be true to yourself and you won’t go too far wrong. "

With the exception of the therapist you could actually be describing me and I'd have no bother speaking to one should the need arise! I'd add to that my old fashioned manners and if that makes me a "modern" man then great. If not,I couldn't give a shite! Take me as I am and we'll get on just fine. If anyone has issues with how I carry myself then they can get the boat!! One way ticket, preferably!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have mostly continued to wash my hands after the toilet post pandemic....

I've basically nailed it

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

I might be oldfashioned but this kinda man washed with conditioner doesn't really appeal to me.

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By *ensualandslow321Man
over a year ago

Tullamore

I thought that I was a modern man when I did more than my fair share of night feeds, changing nappies, cooking, cleaning, and rearing our 3 lunatic pups. Was tough going on a very limited budget but thankfully they grew into 3 good men, how I'll never know but we must have done something right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a load of bollocks to be fair. A man is who he chooses to be , your or anyone else preconceived idea of what a man or modern man is that your or their idea of what want in a man. Leanings towards veaginism??? The new fad diet of the tabloid masses, sorry now as someone who eats very little red meat and small amount of poultry and fish(isn't fish the flesh of an living creature).I would not say I have any leaning towards any diet , but I like beans as a quick easy way to mix up a curry while still packing in protein. Don't get me started on the craze of non dairy milk alternatives, unless for medical diet purposes then I understand. But those alternatives to dairy milk consume huge volumes of water to produce so not as environmentally friendly at all. The same for avocado on toast, the air miles clocked up by avocados to get on out plates is crazy. Sorry lil Monday rant over. As long as a man is respectful to others,tries to keep himself healthy why try and fit him into your idea of a modern man

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By *on Draper2.0Man
over a year ago

Maynooth

It's all a bunch of tree huggin hippee crap!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's all a bunch of tree huggin hippee crap!

Carefully now or Mr.Ryan of the green party will accuse you of spreading misinformation. He would know as he is the one of the 3 unwise men who are masters of it

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By *OCONO5Couple
over a year ago

Sensual Center

I wash ....I wax....I cook....I listen....

I love all type of veggies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck Wilkinson sword, bullshite,

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By *asual777Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

I am a strange mixture of modern and old school man but pretty much all the terrible parts of both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lots of good things there.

But “leaning towards veganism” and “meekly”, ha, no way. Not for me.

If there are guys like that and women like it then go for it but nah.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am mine.

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By *antra MassageMan
over a year ago

South Side.

Its enough to have reached this far in human male evolution. "Modern man" could be a new phase of evolution , or perhaps bring evolution of the species to a crashing halt. We don't know yet.

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By *uess.who30Man
over a year ago

Galway/Dublin/London

This thread makes me need to take a deep breath...

Without the rant, a "modern man" doesnt exist, its a concept created in a think tank and comes through journalism as a type of Propeganda..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fads and labelling sells, that is the bottom line on any of it. It is another form of peer pressure trotted out in a continually evolving manner so that companies have markets for their new products. Journalists gobble it up and the wannabies follow blindly. It changes every year or 2. Just be happy and comfortable in your own skin with respect for others.

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By *ombikerMan
over a year ago

the right side of the river

I must be far from modern so.

I eat vegetables with my steak.

Drink real milk, not nut juice pretending to be milk.

I work hard and expect nothing for free.

Please and thank you are in daily use in my vocabulary (along with a for f¥€k sake)

I don't care if someone is bi gay queer transtesticle or however they want to live their life, good luck with that, I wish you happiness with it. I'm straight and staying that way.

The huge majority politicians do not care one bit for the general public, they are just a leech on society.

Amen.

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By *easingTim OP Man
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

"This thread makes me need to take a deep breath...

Without the rant, a "modern man" doesnt exist, its a concept created in a think tank and comes through journalism as a type of Propeganda..

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Am not promoting "modern man" in any way so 100% understand your stance

I just think the odd elephant in the room always needs to be addressed and challenged though instead of men trying to measure up to some nonsensical societial demands that are propagated by Advertisers and the media

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By *uess.who30Man
over a year ago

Galway/Dublin/London

Ahh sorry OP, i should have clarified better.. nothing against you at all.. just the topic itself! You're spot on!

Its just one of those topics that gets me going in terms of debate and i can be a bit of a typer when passionate (as my profile clearly shows) lol

Just had to say it but still bite my tongue enough so everyone on fab wouldn't be subject to the new release of Ulysees and my paragraphs on human psychology and societal pressures etc now adays

Its a topic Id love to discuss in person, but in writing where so much can be misconstrued.. i refrained from getting into it as you ensure i kept my fab reputation in tact as a "Modern Man"

lol

I think you have a good grasp on it yourself!

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By *easingTim OP Man
over a year ago

Loughlinstown

"Ahh sorry OP, i should have clarified better.. nothing against you at all.. just the topic itself! You're spot on!

Its just one of those topics that gets me going in terms of debate and i can be a bit of a typer when passionate (as my profile clearly shows) lol

Just had to say it but still bite my tongue enough so everyone on fab wouldn't be subject to the new release of Ulysees and my paragraphs on human psychology and societal pressures etc now adays

Its a topic Id love to discuss in person, but in writing where so much can be misconstrued.. i refrained from getting into it as you ensure i kept my fab reputation in tact as a "Modern Man"

lol

I think you have a good grasp on it yourself!

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No harm in some spontaneous writing at all

and as a fellow "modern man" will be understanding and accepting of any typos, just as long as no one gets offended in any way

If you get a chance mate, listen to any video by Richard Grannon on society and pm me

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By *haggy_bearMan
over a year ago

Sligo

It's just a silly marketing ploy to get people talking/arguing and mentioning their brand.

Researchers my arse. It's so vague that it makes it pointless.

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