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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception? "Who do you think they're trying to manipulate or deceive? And even if they are doing either one or both, does it really matter to you? It may be just another person who's either indecisive, fluid, confused, not got the "right" category available etc in how they identify...or a sad, sad individual who's lying to themselves or indeed someone who (tries to) lie their way into someone's bed... Nothing new here  | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception? "You're straight according to your profile OP, so curious as to why it seems to upset you so | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
You're straight according to your profile OP, so curious as to why it seems to upset you so"You didn't read the entire profile, Geordie...come, come, do your homework | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception? "Your own profile is a darn right lie would you nit want to start their first | |||
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"Op your profile says straight yet on your bio you state you can be Bi with a couple......" The plot thickens  | |||
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"Am I missing something. Unless the profile was updated, The OPs profile is written by the female and states the male is not for turning " I'm not the OP if you're talking about our profile, I just commented on the thread  | |||
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"I never really get why guys ask if I'm bi or gay.... what difference does it make .... pigeon holes / labels are so 1950s lol. Wouldnt mind but they can never explain why they want to know (or haven't the balls to)" Maybe these guys don't want to have sex with a man who also has sex with women - I mean, uuugggghhhh  | |||
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"Doh!!! Apologies" No worries and he's definitely straight... | |||
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"It’s an individual choice how someone wants to describe themselves how someone can say that another is clearly gay is a wrong judgment if that person says that they are bi " The clue is in the word admittedly  | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
You're straight according to your profile OP, so curious as to why it seems to upset you so"Hey , chill out , I don't recall saying it's upsetting | |||
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"I never really get why guys ask if I'm bi or gay.... what difference does it make .... pigeon holes / labels are so 1950s lol. Wouldnt mind but they can never explain why they want to know (or haven't the balls to) Maybe these guys don't want to have sex with a man who also has sex with women - I mean, uuugggghhhh "I got the feeling they'd prefer bi to gay.... cos you know its not gay if sucked or Fd by a bi guy haha | |||
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"I really do think that sexual orientation should be an optional box to fill out or not" I like that approach... I do feel however that for some sexual orientation of a meeting partner is important. | |||
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"Op your profile says straight yet on your bio you state you can be Bi with a couple......" Thanks of this im aware,,, | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
Your own profile is a darn right lie would you nit want to start their first "My profile is honest ... your assumption is yours to own 
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"Am I missing something. Unless the profile was updated, The OPs profile is written by the female and states the male is not for turning " Lmao  | |||
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"Am I missing something. Unless the profile was updated, The OPs profile is written by the female and states the male is not for turning Lmao "Didn't get much sleep last night lol | |||
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"Haha. God knows. Do get some strange questions and you know they're leading but very rarely do I get an honest answer to either why they ask or what it is exactly they want to know. Maybe I'm just too inquisitive but I'm as interested in how a person thinks as I am how they look" How do you know you don't get honest answer. ? | |||
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"Am I missing something. Unless the profile was updated, The OPs profile is written by the female and states the male is not for turning Lmao
Didn't get much sleep last night lol"Fair enough bud ... | |||
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"Haha. God knows. Do get some strange questions and you know they're leading but very rarely do I get an honest answer to either why they ask or what it is exactly they want to know. Maybe I'm just too inquisitive but I'm as interested in how a person thinks as I am how they look How do you know you don't get honest answer. ? " I polygraph them lol. Because when I ask why, I don't get an answer. But if its you're first question I would assume its important for them to know, otherwise why ask (as the first or second message) | |||
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"Haha. God knows. Do get some strange questions and you know they're leading but very rarely do I get an honest answer to either why they ask or what it is exactly they want to know. Maybe I'm just too inquisitive but I'm as interested in how a person thinks as I am how they look How do you know you don't get honest answer. ? I polygraph them lol. Because when I ask why, I don't get an answer. But if its you're first question I would assume its important for them to know, otherwise why ask (as the first or second message)" True true | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
You're straight according to your profile OP, so curious as to why it seems to upset you so
Hey , chill out , I don't recall saying it's upsetting "Well using 'manipulation' and 'deception' doesn't give off a happy vibe | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
You're straight according to your profile OP, so curious as to why it seems to upset you so
Hey , chill out , I don't recall saying it's upsetting
Well using 'manipulation' and 'deception' doesn't give off a happy vibe "Its a question. The vibes are all yours  | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
You're straight according to your profile OP, so curious as to why it seems to upset you so
Hey , chill out , I don't recall saying it's upsetting
Well using 'manipulation' and 'deception' doesn't give off a happy vibe
Its a question. The vibes are all yours "In fairness, I interpreted your original post with negativity too - posting a closed question asking others to distinguish between sexual manipulation or "just" deception might just do that. The context is just not a very positive one! It might read differently if you had asked how people would feel if they were chatting with a single man who has bi on his profile but let's you know during that conversation that he's actually gay... would it make a difference to how people see this lad and/or would it impact on further decisions... | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
You're straight according to your profile OP, so curious as to why it seems to upset you so
Hey , chill out , I don't recall saying it's upsetting
Well using 'manipulation' and 'deception' doesn't give off a happy vibe
Its a question. The vibes are all yours
In fairness, I interpreted your original post with negativity too - posting a closed question asking others to distinguish between sexual manipulation or "just" deception might just do that. The context is just not a very positive one!
It might read differently if you had asked how people would feel if they were chatting with a single man who has bi on his profile but let's you know during that conversation that he's actually gay... would it make a difference to how people see this lad and/or would it impact on further decisions..."Its important to remember the context you refer to is something you are associating with my question , Closed question it may be ... negative , thats in the eye of the beholder surly. I made no reference to how I feel about such a scenario! I posed a question . You chose to add your interpretation of context or negativity to it . The question you suggest I might have asked is open yes , yet is a different question . What I do take from your reply is that you phrase your comments well . Tidy bud | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
You're straight according to your profile OP, so curious as to why it seems to upset you so
Hey , chill out , I don't recall saying it's upsetting
Well using 'manipulation' and 'deception' doesn't give off a happy vibe
Its a question. The vibes are all yours
In fairness, I interpreted your original post with negativity too - posting a closed question asking others to distinguish between sexual manipulation or "just" deception might just do that. The context is just not a very positive one!
It might read differently if you had asked how people would feel if they were chatting with a single man who has bi on his profile but let's you know during that conversation that he's actually gay... would it make a difference to how people see this lad and/or would it impact on further decisions...
Its important to remember the context you refer to is something you are associating with my question ,
Closed question it may be ... negative , thats in the eye of the beholder surly.
I made no reference to how I feel about such a scenario!
I posed a question .
You chose to add your interpretation of context or negativity to it .
The question you suggest I might have asked is open yes , yet is a different question .
What I do take from your reply is that you phrase your comments well .
Tidy bud
"I refer you to my first answer on the thread - I counter questioned you and received no response. The fact that you asked a question with only 2 (very negative sounding) options as answers with the eye rolling emoji, either imply (in my opinion) that this is possibly one of your opinions (not excluding others, but you have to admit the implication is there - just look at the reactions you received - negativity often breeds negativity) or are you simply leading others in that direction - if so, then did you do so with intention or not?! That's where I'd ask, where does hate speech start? Why would you not have posed the question more positively - are these guys confused, have they made a mistake on their profile or have they realised something in their journey and not updated the profile accordingly? To answer your original question - there is no one fits all answer with the options you give | |||
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"To be honest op You did start the thread with a very negative vibe maybe not your intention but your on fab you have filters for a reason should you care to look at a certain profiles then that’s your choice but don’t start a thread trying to tell the people on here that your being deceived in anyway " The thread wasn't to tell people I'm being deceived
Filters aren't a solution to what you see as a problem .
To me the thread was neither negative nor positive, just a question of opinion.
I can see how some may view it in a negative light . Thats unfortunate.
Point taken that negativity may breed negativity, which is a reflection of how my post was received combined negative responses.
Its a question .
Simply to see what others thought about such a scenario.
The focus has been put on the "why ask this question , " rather than the question .
I appreciate replies
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Next time maybe ill post a topic which dosnt get so dramatic
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception? "It’s neither, but mostly because neither of the questions make sense. Personally I couldn’t care less, it’s their profile to do with as they please, without question or explanation, although I fear in some cases this my not be without judgement, which may explain what some may choose to keep certain aspects private, as is their prerogative. What’s the difference between someone gay and bi, and straight and bi? | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
It’s neither, but mostly because neither of the questions make sense.
Personally I couldn’t care less, it’s their profile to do with as they please, without question or explanation, although I fear in some cases this my not be without judgement, which may explain what some may choose to keep certain aspects private, as is their prerogative.
What’s the difference between someone gay and bi, and straight and bi?"The difference may be important to some for different reasons. May also be 8mportant to some that they feel they can trust whom they communicate with | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
Who do you think they're trying to manipulate or deceive? And even if they are doing either one or both, does it really matter to you?
It may be just another person who's either indecisive, fluid, confused, not got the "right" category available etc in how they identify...or a sad, sad individual who's lying to themselves or indeed someone who (tries to) lie their way into someone's bed...
Nothing new here "It only matters to me if its someone I'm chatting with .. don't care outside of that . | |||
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"It’s an individual choice how someone wants to describe themselves how someone can say that another is clearly gay is a wrong judgment if that person says that they are bi " Remember the word admittedly | |||
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"Well it's seems most guys are at least bi curious at least if rhe mails I get are anything to go by. lots of single straight guys wanting to "try" " Sure there is a fit for us all | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
Who do you think they're trying to manipulate or deceive? And even if they are doing either one or both, does it really matter to you?
It may be just another person who's either indecisive, fluid, confused, not got the "right" category available etc in how they identify...or a sad, sad individual who's lying to themselves or indeed someone who (tries to) lie their way into someone's bed...
Nothing new here
It only matters to me if its someone I'm chatting with .. don't care outside of that . "Which part matters? | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception? "Perhaps they’re bi-curious. They’ve told you they’re gay so it’s hardly deception. I also don’t see how it’s “sexual manipulation”. In the grand scheme of things does it matter if they’re bi or gay? | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
Who do you think they're trying to manipulate or deceive? And even if they are doing either one or both, does it really matter to you?
It may be just another person who's either indecisive, fluid, confused, not got the "right" category available etc in how they identify...or a sad, sad individual who's lying to themselves or indeed someone who (tries to) lie their way into someone's bed...
Nothing new here
It only matters to me if its someone I'm chatting with .. don't care outside of that .
Which part matters?"The honesty or lack of | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
Who do you think they're trying to manipulate or deceive? And even if they are doing either one or both, does it really matter to you?
It may be just another person who's either indecisive, fluid, confused, not got the "right" category available etc in how they identify...or a sad, sad individual who's lying to themselves or indeed someone who (tries to) lie their way into someone's bed...
Nothing new here
It only matters to me if its someone I'm chatting with .. don't care outside of that .
Which part matters?"Oh I’m not even going down that rabbit hole…. | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
Perhaps they’re bi-curious.
They’ve told you they’re gay so it’s hardly deception. I also don’t see how it’s “sexual manipulation”. In the grand scheme of things does it matter if they’re bi or gay?"For some yes , sounds like you feel it shouldn't matter to anyone for any reason ? | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
Who do you think they're trying to manipulate or deceive? And even if they are doing either one or both, does it really matter to you?
It may be just another person who's either indecisive, fluid, confused, not got the "right" category available etc in how they identify...or a sad, sad individual who's lying to themselves or indeed someone who (tries to) lie their way into someone's bed...
Nothing new here
It only matters to me if its someone I'm chatting with .. don't care outside of that .
Which part matters?
The honesty or lack of " | |||
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"Have encountered guys on here down as bi , yet admittedly are gay ... Is this sexual manipulation
Or just deception?
Perhaps they’re bi-curious.
They’ve told you they’re gay so it’s hardly deception. I also don’t see how it’s “sexual manipulation”. In the grand scheme of things does it matter if they’re bi or gay?
For some yes , sounds like you feel it shouldn't matter to anyone for any reason ?"Oh I’m sure it will matter to some people but those people can make that choice once they have the information. I am curious though, and this is not necessarily a question just aimed at the OP, but if a bi/bi-curious guy arranged to meet another man for some fun, would it be a deal breaker if you found out he was gay and not bi? | |||
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"I wonder also would it be a deal breaker if two gay guys hooked up, and then one found out the other was bi." Ideally, they’d both decide they were bi/bi-curious and invite me over | |||
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"I'd take one for the team to have a crack at you Jaffa "*Swoon* | |||
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"I'd take one for the team to have a crack at you Jaffa "Would you really though ???? | |||
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