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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Surely it’s about time we took to the streets to protest about the cost of living, fuel etc and the lack of pay rises?

The French protested regarding fuel prices and they’ve been capped. Do we need to do the same?

Obvs asking when do we riot, is a rhetorical question before someone shouts at me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we are rioting can we loot too I could do with new garden furniture

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By *haggy_bearMan
over a year ago

Sligo


"Surely it’s about time we took to the streets to protest about the cost of living, fuel etc and the lack of pay rises?

The French protested regarding fuel prices and they’ve been capped. Do we need to do the same?

Obvs asking when do we riot, is a rhetorical question before someone shouts at me "

Do you not have enough money?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely it’s about time we took to the streets to protest about the cost of living, fuel etc and the lack of pay rises?

The French protested regarding fuel prices and they’ve been capped. Do we need to do the same?

Obvs asking when do we riot, is a rhetorical question before someone shouts at me "

Oh yes Mick Barry as our leader our Mary Lou fuck’n brilliant I think we would prefer Castro

Stephen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I shouldn’t speak for her self that’s my opinion

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By *omtom1969Man
over a year ago

ashbourne

The problem in Ireland is there is no one to follow , as in no one strong enough to lead us to the streets ,, all the political parties are after to put their necks on the block they haven't got the balls to lead the people out , Nd remember one thing about every TD in this country, this rise in living is not affecting them nd it never will

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

We are heading for a real perfect storm, prices-wise

the confluence of Brexit and the EU; the predicted labour shortage post-Covid and the cost of meeting the internationally agreed climate commitments that are leading to increased fuel and energy price increases on unprecedented scale, and the effects of sanctions on Russia.

The real crisis that I personally fear is a real shortage of food, mainly grains and veg oils from Ukraine and the Russian Federation.

I can probably cope with adversities, but hunger is something I have never really experienced, to date.

The next five years are going to present many challenges; thankfully I have been honing my prepping skills for SHTF and WROL scenarios for the last ten years, including self-sufficiency in the style of John Seymour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mick Barry was on rte saying he’d give the millions that we where going to get from apple that we didn’t get And he wanted to give it to the Luas drivers on behalf of the unions look at the interview it was on with rte with David Mc cullag Mrs Barry’s And the fake O’Leary

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely it’s about time we took to the streets to protest about the cost of living, fuel etc and the lack of pay rises?

The French protested regarding fuel prices and they’ve been capped. Do we need to do the same?

Obvs asking when do we riot, is a rhetorical question before someone shouts at me "

Should you not be asking that in a UK forum as you’re in Belfast… ?

It’s a global issue not just confined to us. Do you not realise there’s a war going on ffs.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"Surely it’s about time we took to the streets to protest about the cost of living, fuel etc and the lack of pay rises?

The French protested regarding fuel prices and they’ve been capped. Do we need to do the same?

Obvs asking when do we riot, is a rhetorical question before someone shouts at me

Should you not be asking that in a UK forum as you’re in Belfast… ?

It’s a global issue not just confined to us. Do you not realise there’s a war going on ffs. "

Is it you Mehole?

You sound like the Taoiseach. Propaganda seems to work.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

I'd say when we head into the next heating season the pressure will become unbearable...

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By *hris 1000200Man
over a year ago

kells

Out and out ,pure greed,using war as the scapegoat, plain and simple,,sure there's been wars going on ,since I was.born....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wish to happend. Its not normal travel to work used to cost me 15f a week now 30 bearly anything left after paying bills. Council tax 5k debt

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

Its handy for the government to blame the war

But a barrel of oil is cheaper now than a year ago and yet a year ago the price at the pump was cheaper

Price gouging by the oil companies and the government making a fortune in taxes off the back of it

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By *ub_TMan
over a year ago

Dublin city

The political system in this country is corrupt at every turn , all parties. sending millions abroad for aid , no end of money into a rotten HSE , how many on the dole who could fill job positions yet companies can’t get staff ?! Some civil servant departments who call the shots too, not politicians.

The whole GREEN agenda boils my p!ss too.

Fine G seem to be American-ising us.

Ireland has long lost its way , it’s not the country I grew up in. Fuk all to do with race before someone bangs that drum

The cost of living has many factors involved, and agendas , plus gouging is rife in every market. WE HAVE TURNED INTO A GREEDY “ FUK YOU JACK IM OK “ NATION

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By *lue eyesMan
over a year ago

cavan

The truckers and farmers of Ireland have tried to protest on a number of occasions now and they were laughed at by Joe public and their own, and have gotten penalty points and fines for their troubles I know I have some the problem is their is no back bone in most people and they want someone else to do the work for them they might wake up when they can't afford to heat their houses next winter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely it’s about time we took to the streets to protest about the cost of living, fuel etc and the lack of pay rises?

The French protested regarding fuel prices and they’ve been capped. Do we need to do the same?

Obvs asking when do we riot, is a rhetorical question before someone shouts at me

Should you not be asking that in a UK forum as you’re in Belfast… ?

It’s a global issue not just confined to us. Do you not realise there’s a war going on ffs.

Is it you Mehole?

You sound like the Taoiseach. Propaganda seems to work.

"

Not at all

But I know not to listen to the propaganda drilled out by SF and the likes of PBP. Nearly every country in the world is being affected by the war, but some people can’t see that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no the gubberments fault

google opec plus they control the oil markets, they literally have us over a barrel

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By *asual777Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

Potentially interesting thread

I am usually a glass half full person but the combination of

3rd world countries not being able to feed their citizens who ll dangerously try to get to Europe as a result of the grain crisis

Vulnerable European citizens not being able to heat their homes in the winter

No End in sight for rising food and petrol prices with Russia sanctions , need to address climate change etc

Crises in various industries due to staff shortages

Is a perfect storm alright

One possibility might be making use of increased immigration to address staff shortages but the direct provision type of processing needs to quicken and have a much faster turnaround

But to answer the OP so much of the high cost of things is tax related but we are a nation that supports its vulnerable well and has a high life expectancy population to we are taxed highly for a reason

And successive governments have always been soft on multi Nationals because of the employment they bring in. Going harder on them maybe the only option but comes with huge risks . If they up and leave that’s more unemployment and people to support and higher taxes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a bellend

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By *otNick11Man
over a year ago

Dublin

Yeah there is no silver bullet to cure everything as nearly all of the factors contributing to this inflation are macro economic conditions.

With that being said though, our government are incredibly reactionary and have no foresight (past an election)

We are wasteful with public money, children’s hospital over budget etc

Over inflated salaries for some public services, the head of the HSE earns more than his counterpart in the NHS which has a duty of care to 10x the amount of patients.

And sadly someone has to pay for all this, and it’s usually the middle income earners.

How our tax system jumps from 20% to 40% on over 36,800 is crazy

40% could kick in at 80k plus and 30% from 45k for example

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By *e MasseurMan
over a year ago

lk

A riot promoted by Fabbers.. it will end up in a huge dogging/orgy on M50 lol I'm in

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By *rmrs1234Couple
over a year ago

Waterford


"Potentially interesting thread

I am usually a glass half full person but the combination of

3rd world countries not being able to feed their citizens who ll dangerously try to get to Europe as a result of the grain crisis

Vulnerable European citizens not being able to heat their homes in the winter

No End in sight for rising food and petrol prices with Russia sanctions , need to address climate change etc

Crises in various industries due to staff shortages

Is a perfect storm alright

One possibility might be making use of increased immigration to address staff shortages but the direct provision type of processing needs to quicken and have a much faster turnaround

But to answer the OP so much of the high cost of things is tax related but we are a nation that supports its vulnerable well and has a high life expectancy population to we are taxed highly for a reason

And successive governments have always been soft on multi Nationals because of the employment they bring in. Going harder on them maybe the only option but comes with huge risks . If they up and leave that’s more unemployment and people to support and higher taxes

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Supports its vulnerable well???? Thoroughly disagree there

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

I'm not sure what you want the government to do. We buy fuel at the market rate. Who would pay the shortfall? Thr government? Where do you think they get their money from? We pay in the end either way . Reducing usage through insulation and efficiency is the best we can do.

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By *omtom1969Man
over a year ago

ashbourne

Here's the reality of what's going on right now ,, Russia is selling crude oil to India at 75 dollers a barrel then we are buying it from India for 135 a barrel,,, yes this ban is working

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not sure what you want the government to do. We buy fuel at the market rate. Who would pay the shortfall? Thr government? Where do you think they get their money from? We pay in the end either way . Reducing usage through insulation and efficiency is the best we can do."

Mary Lou said it will be ok. Don’t worry about who will pay for it, their voting demographic do t pay for anything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Capitalism is the problem smash it

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man
over a year ago

City Centre, Dublin

I was waiting for this to rear it’s head

The same numpties who wanted to riot over Covid restrictions now want to riot over inflation

I’m starting to think its not the issue that’s important just the rioting

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"Capitalism is the problem smash it"

We all want t free stuff... but unfortunately other people who have the stuff we need want paying for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Capitalism is the problem smash it"

Ha!! What’s the alternative? Socialism ? That worked out well in Venezuela didn’t it ?

Country with one of the richest oil reserves in the world and it’s been crippled by socialism

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Capitalism is the problem smash it

We all want t free stuff... but unfortunately other people who have the stuff we need want paying for it."

But, but that’s not what SF and and PBP say…

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By *hyeyesMan
over a year ago

meath


"Surely it’s about time we took to the streets to protest about the cost of living, fuel etc and the lack of pay rises?

The French protested regarding fuel prices and they’ve been capped. Do we need to do the same?

Obvs asking when do we riot, is a rhetorical question before someone shouts at me "

Historically when societies have to spend more than 50% of there income on food , they riot

Food inflation isn't that bad at the moment .....

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By *ensualandslow321Man
over a year ago

Tullamore


"Capitalism is the problem smash it"

And replace it with what ??

No point in mouthing off about something unless you have an (better) alternative

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By *sLittleRedRidingHoodWoman
over a year ago

Magical Forrest

Price for barrel of oil, is low, we shouldn’t be paying the prices at the petrol stations. Yet here we are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Price for barrel of oil, is low, we shouldn’t be paying the prices at the petrol stations. Yet here we are. "

I agree we shouldn’t… but if the government drops the prices at the pumps, where will the make up the shortfall in lost taxes ? Our wages ? It has to come from somewhere

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By *sLittleRedRidingHoodWoman
over a year ago

Magical Forrest


"Price for barrel of oil, is low, we shouldn’t be paying the prices at the petrol stations. Yet here we are.

I agree we shouldn’t… but if the government drops the prices at the pumps, where will the make up the shortfall in lost taxes ? Our wages ? It has to come from somewhere "

Think they are taking enough taxes left right and center. Rep of Ireland is one of the most expensive countries in the EU to live.

Wages have stayed the same. Food prices, utilities, petrol, what next, taxing the air we breathe ??

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"Price for barrel of oil, is low, we shouldn’t be paying the prices at the petrol stations. Yet here we are. "

Low?? God no its not low. Also big suppliers buy in bulk so prices you pay rarely change simultaneously with the price of a barrell of oil.

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By *m389Man
over a year ago

Bromley

Every society is three meals from chaos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who believes in elected officials and that they care for their fellow country man is a fool ...they're part of game, a white collar crime game ...they don't give a fuck about anyone only themselves. How much more evidence do people need to accept this

It's every man for him self

looking out for one another and doing whats right has vanished.. ..its designed that way to keep people suspicious of one another .and not of them .I'm hearing the conspiracy comments already...

Governments in general don't want pou to.listen to any other narratives than theirs.....

Logistic transport company's held a protest in Dublin a few weeks ago .as diesel is gone through the roof...the trucks that were in line in the protest not moving because of volume were hit with parking fines every 30 mins

No solidarity with the Irish people now . Europe is our master...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Price for barrel of oil, is low, we shouldn’t be paying the prices at the petrol stations. Yet here we are.

I agree we shouldn’t… but if the government drops the prices at the pumps, where will the make up the shortfall in lost taxes ? Our wages ? It has to come from somewhere

Think they are taking enough taxes left right and center. Rep of Ireland is one of the most expensive countries in the EU to live.

Wages have stayed the same. Food prices, utilities, petrol, what next, taxing the air we breathe ?? "

Along with a license to cross the road it's just crazy, I am not watching the news much now these day's it's nearly all so negative.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Surely it’s about time we took to the streets to protest about the cost of living, fuel etc and the lack of pay rises?

The French protested regarding fuel prices and they’ve been capped. Do we need to do the same?

Obvs asking when do we riot, is a rhetorical question before someone shouts at me

Should you not be asking that in a UK forum as you’re in Belfast… ?

It’s a global issue not just confined to us. Do you not realise there’s a war going on ffs. "

Last I looked this was an Ireland forum and I live in Ireland. Unless you’re saying because I live in the north you’re more Irish than me?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Capitalism is the problem smash it

And replace it with what ??

No point in mouthing off about something unless you have an (better) alternative"

Socialism

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By *r_Insatiable666Man
over a year ago

Cork

One thing I've learned about Irish politics over the years, is something really simple. We aren't really a democracy, talk semantics if you'd like but there is no people's party. Can you say anyone really represents your interest?

Since the formation of the state, we've essentially only had two parties and funnily enough, even with the rise of SF, we still somewhat have two parties.

Can't really comment on SF, since they never had power but FF and FG have always been on the same side of the coin, at least after Devs time.

Will rioting do anything? No, we've no replacement, no voice and honestly no fervor. If the government wanted to ban cars tomorrow, we would argue but no real action would take place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Irish riot, don't make laugh.. Irish are not serious enough to riot, look at the recession of 08 and subsequent years. Every other country in Europe had riots but little old Ireland did what we were told. No backbone at all.. We hand the government lube pull our trousers down and say go for it.. Totally controlled

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By *oserMan
over a year ago

where the wild roses grow


"Its handy for the government to blame the war

But a barrel of oil is cheaper now than a year ago and yet a year ago the price at the pump was cheaper

Price gouging by the oil companies and the government making a fortune in taxes off the back of it "

True but the dollar is far stronger now.

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down


"Every society is three meals from chaos."

And most people are one salary cheque away from bankruptcy; probably an exaggeration but a lot of people are sailing close to the wind!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Capitalism is the problem smash it

And replace it with what ??

No point in mouthing off about something unless you have an (better) alternative

Socialism"

Venuzuella?

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By *ensualandslow321Man
over a year ago

Tullamore


"Capitalism is the problem smash it

And replace it with what ??

No point in mouthing off about something unless you have an (better) alternative

Socialism

Venuzuella?"

Where has socialism worked ?

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"Surely it’s about time we took to the streets to protest about the cost of living, fuel etc and the lack of pay rises?

The French protested regarding fuel prices and they’ve been capped. Do we need to do the same?

Obvs asking when do we riot, is a rhetorical question before someone shouts at me

Should you not be asking that in a UK forum as you’re in Belfast… ?

It’s a global issue not just confined to us. Do you not realise there’s a war going on ffs.

Is it you Mehole?

You sound like the Taoiseach. Propaganda seems to work.

Not at all

But I know not to listen to the propaganda drilled out by SF and the likes of PBP. Nearly every country in the world is being affected by the war, but some people can’t see that "

Spiralling energy prices are indeed a global problem at present, but it wasn't the Ukrainian war that got us there. The latter doesn't help of course and worsened it. Just stop saying 'there's a war going on' as an excuse for everything and for doing nothing.

Crises like this accentuate national problems that were there already, so did Covid-19, and the consequences normally affect the most vulnerable ones in society. While our government has very little influence on the oil barrel price, there's plenty measures to alleviate the associated problems and protect the people, but the crooks in charge have no balls and only serve themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely it’s about time we took to the streets to protest about the cost of living, fuel etc and the lack of pay rises?

The French protested regarding fuel prices and they’ve been capped. Do we need to do the same?

Obvs asking when do we riot, is a rhetorical question before someone shouts at me

Should you not be asking that in a UK forum as you’re in Belfast… ?

It’s a global issue not just confined to us. Do you not realise there’s a war going on ffs.

Is it you Mehole?

You sound like the Taoiseach. Propaganda seems to work.

Not at all

But I know not to listen to the propaganda drilled out by SF and the likes of PBP. Nearly every country in the world is being affected by the war, but some people can’t see that

Spiralling energy prices are indeed a global problem at present, but it wasn't the Ukrainian war that got us there. The latter doesn't help of course and worsened it. Just stop saying 'there's a war going on' as an excuse for everything and for doing nothing.

Crises like this accentuate national problems that were there already, so did Covid-19, and the consequences normally affect the most vulnerable ones in society. While our government has very little influence on the oil barrel price, there's plenty measures to alleviate the associated problems and protect the people, but the crooks in charge have no balls and only serve themselves. "

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By *elfastreal8Man
over a year ago

belfast


"Surely it’s about time we took to the streets to protest about the cost of living, fuel etc and the lack of pay rises?

The French protested regarding fuel prices and they’ve been capped. Do we need to do the same?

Obvs asking when do we riot, is a rhetorical question before someone shouts at me

Should you not be asking that in a UK forum as you’re in Belfast… ?

It’s a global issue not just confined to us. Do you not realise there’s a war going on ffs. "

Seriously? What a ridiculous comment. How is that helpful in any way? You, sir, are part of the problem if that’s the way you think. Hide under your wet blanket like a good boy.

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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun

We definitely need to riot and overhaul the entire system, but not for simple fuel prices.

The governments are lying when they tell you they're we're on track to avoid climate catastrophe.

We're a species too stuck in our own imaginary world that's disconnected from reality so all we focus on is the current issues, when this way of life we've accepted as norm and the way this overconsumption dependent and limitless growth focused global economy is sending us off a cliff.

We're a species in overshoot and I really don't know if we've the capability of avoiding the chaos to come as our agriculture starts to fail and our divided populations in the global north start to become worse and worse as we see a huge increase in the amount of refugees trying to escape more and more inhospitable areas.

A global societal collapse worse than the one of the Roman empire is likely coming in the next few decades, but this time the people around after the civilisation collapse will be living in a world with much more unpredictable weather and a world stripped of easily accessible resources.

Enjoy the now, but recognise it for the fleeting moment of absurdity it is. It's time to prepare learning to live off the grid

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By *ouple 0073Couple
over a year ago

donegal


"We definitely need to riot and overhaul the entire system, but not for simple fuel prices.

The governments are lying when they tell you they're we're on track to avoid climate catastrophe.

We're a species too stuck in our own imaginary world that's disconnected from reality so all we focus on is the current issues, when this way of life we've accepted as norm and the way this overconsumption dependent and limitless growth focused global economy is sending us off a cliff.

We're a species in overshoot and I really don't know if we've the capability of avoiding the chaos to come as our agriculture starts to fail and our divided populations in the global north start to become worse and worse as we see a huge increase in the amount of refugees trying to escape more and more inhospitable areas.

A global societal collapse worse than the one of the Roman empire is likely coming in the next few decades, but this time the people around after the civilisation collapse will be living in a world with much more unpredictable weather and a world stripped of easily accessible resources.

Enjoy the now, but recognise it for the fleeting moment of absurdity it is. It's time to prepare learning to live off the grid "

Mad Max here we come!

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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"We definitely need to riot and overhaul the entire system, but not for simple fuel prices.

The governments are lying when they tell you they're we're on track to avoid climate catastrophe.

We're a species too stuck in our own imaginary world that's disconnected from reality so all we focus on is the current issues, when this way of life we've accepted as norm and the way this overconsumption dependent and limitless growth focused global economy is sending us off a cliff.

We're a species in overshoot and I really don't know if we've the capability of avoiding the chaos to come as our agriculture starts to fail and our divided populations in the global north start to become worse and worse as we see a huge increase in the amount of refugees trying to escape more and more inhospitable areas.

A global societal collapse worse than the one of the Roman empire is likely coming in the next few decades, but this time the people around after the civilisation collapse will be living in a world with much more unpredictable weather and a world stripped of easily accessible resources.

Enjoy the now, but recognise it for the fleeting moment of absurdity it is. It's time to prepare learning to live off the grid Mad Max here we come! "

Well definitely if we were near the Mediterranean where they've been getting worse droughts and serious soil deterioration due to industrial farming.

It's too early to tell how Ireland will be. We'll just have to keep an eye on the gulf stream as it destabilises to see what our future climate will be like.

We may have a chance if we pushed to become more independent of these global supply chains that so many countries have become overly dependent on. Don't think the idiots in the dail will be the ones to push it though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Capitalism is the problem smash it

And replace it with what ??

No point in mouthing off about something unless you have an (better) alternative

Socialism

Venuzuella?

Where has socialism worked ?"

Denmark,Sweden,China,Vietnam to mention but a few,all with much better economies than any capitalist state. So my question to your good self is where has capitalism worked?

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By *ensualandslow321Man
over a year ago

Tullamore


"Capitalism is the problem smash it

And replace it with what ??

No point in mouthing off about something unless you have an (better) alternative

Socialism

Venuzuella?

Where has socialism worked ?

Denmark,Sweden,China,Vietnam to mention but a few,all with much better economies than any capitalist state. So my question to your good self is where has capitalism worked?"

The nordic countries are now classified as centrist with a socialist bent. China and Vietnam are both very strongly authoritarian. I have travelled a fair amount of the world and have been to China several times and although its an amazing place, there are absolutely huge disparity in living standards, more so than here. The level of state control is mind boggling, their covid response is a very small element of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give another few weeks there will be a riot in my street lmao

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By *exmark12Man
over a year ago

Rathcoole/Roscommon/Mayo

All due respects Not alot that can be done.Higher taxes to pay for the extra costs on items mentioned.Thats not a great solution....Most of the costs are out of our control.....We I suppose will have to cut our cloth to suit our measure......Less fabbing lol......No fancy hotels back seat of the Niccan Micra.

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere


"Give another few weeks there will be a riot in my street lmao "

A yearly event id imagine

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over a year ago


"Capitalism is the problem smash it

And replace it with what ??

No point in mouthing off about something unless you have an (better) alternative

Socialism

Venuzuella?

Where has socialism worked ?

Denmark,Sweden,China,Vietnam to mention but a few,all with much better economies than any capitalist state. So my question to your good self is where has capitalism worked?

The nordic countries are now classified as centrist with a socialist bent. China and Vietnam are both very strongly authoritarian. I have travelled a fair amount of the world and have been to China several times and although its an amazing place, there are absolutely huge disparity in living standards, more so than here. The level of state control is mind boggling, their covid response is a very small element of it."

Standard answer. Is there not a huge disparity of living standards in capitalist states?

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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"Capitalism is the problem smash it

And replace it with what ??

No point in mouthing off about something unless you have an (better) alternative

Socialism

Venuzuella?

Where has socialism worked ?

Denmark,Sweden,China,Vietnam to mention but a few,all with much better economies than any capitalist state. So my question to your good self is where has capitalism worked?

The nordic countries are now classified as centrist with a socialist bent. China and Vietnam are both very strongly authoritarian. I have travelled a fair amount of the world and have been to China several times and although its an amazing place, there are absolutely huge disparity in living standards, more so than here. The level of state control is mind boggling, their covid response is a very small element of it.

Standard answer. Is there not a huge disparity of living standards in capitalist states?"

And can't forget how the current global economy is very capitalist in nature with every country doing their most to jump in on these new markets we shouldn't rely on. We in the first world have become too expensive to hire for a lot of the manufacturing so our role primarily is as consumers, while the goods we take for granted are made by people who could only dream of the wealth we have, and if those feckers get too unruly or ask for more money, their jobs can be simply shipped somewhere else that has worse working conditions.

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By *eadfirst99Man
over a year ago

Dublin

We had it good for a long time, man up and just get on with it. Make those few sacrifices to save on outgoings. This country is rotten with money, problem is the wrong people have it

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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"We had it good for a long time, man up and just get on with it. Make those few sacrifices to save on outgoings. This country is rotten with money, problem is the wrong people have it"

Agreed. We've become indoctrinated into accepting a ridiculous and unsustainable way of life that's completely disconnected from reality as perfectly normal, and this money that started out as a simplification of the bartering process has become an entity in itself that we've convinced ourselves has to grow by unfathomable amounts every year.

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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago

Dublin

Most people are too busy arranging holidays and planning nights concert and festivals etc to waste their time protesting over the cost of living.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Nearly full employment, can't get a table in a restaurant, hotels booked up, airports jammed, houses selling 100k + over the asking, can't keep new cars in showrooms. Ireland is awash with money and prices are on the up.

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By *uttingstagsMan
over a year ago

Navan


"Price for barrel of oil, is low, we shouldn’t be paying the prices at the petrol stations. Yet here we are. "

Absolutely, massive exorbitant profits are being added by oil companies and the green agenda with carbon taxes and similar measures are driving the prices to insane levels.

There’s a tried and tested way out, nuclear energy. If it works for nearly seventy million French why couldn’t it work here.

If Ireland builds a decent nuclear power plant, let’s say double the capacity of what is used to power the Paris region we could be future proofed for decades to come. Electrify all small vehicle traffic, electrify all rail and move home heating to electricity for buttons.

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere


"Price for barrel of oil, is low, we shouldn’t be paying the prices at the petrol stations. Yet here we are.

Absolutely, massive exorbitant profits are being added by oil companies and the green agenda with carbon taxes and similar measures are driving the prices to insane levels.

There’s a tried and tested way out, nuclear energy. If it works for nearly seventy million French why couldn’t it work here.

If Ireland builds a decent nuclear power plant, let’s say double the capacity of what is used to power the Paris region we could be future proofed for decades to come. Electrify all small vehicle traffic, electrify all rail and move home heating to electricity for buttons."

We already use nuclear power via interconnecting lines

It's an Irish solution to an Irish problem

Would you like a nuclear power station near your city ....not a hope that it would get planning

Remember the protests in wexford in the 70's....

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

There is a protest going on locally here against a solar farm. A FUCKING SOLAR FARM.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"Price for barrel of oil, is low, we shouldn’t be paying the prices at the petrol stations. Yet here we are.

Absolutely, massive exorbitant profits are being added by oil companies and the green agenda with carbon taxes and similar measures are driving the prices to insane levels.

There’s a tried and tested way out, nuclear energy. If it works for nearly seventy million French why couldn’t it work here.

If Ireland builds a decent nuclear power plant, let’s say double the capacity of what is used to power the Paris region we could be future proofed for decades to come. Electrify all small vehicle traffic, electrify all rail and move home heating to electricity for buttons.

We already use nuclear power via interconnecting lines

It's an Irish solution to an Irish problem

Would you like a nuclear power station near your city ....not a hope that it would get planning

Remember the protests in wexford in the 70's...."

Beside that, can you imagine the Irish planning and building a nuclear power plant? Lmao. Maybe after 30 years of planning and countless backhanders the most expensive power plant ever would be build in the most ridiculous location...

Anyhow I don't think nuclear energy is the answer to the problem, neither is electric cars.

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By *uttingstagsMan
over a year ago

Navan


"Price for barrel of oil, is low, we shouldn’t be paying the prices at the petrol stations. Yet here we are.

Absolutely, massive exorbitant profits are being added by oil companies and the green agenda with carbon taxes and similar measures are driving the prices to insane levels.

There’s a tried and tested way out, nuclear energy. If it works for nearly seventy million French why couldn’t it work here.

If Ireland builds a decent nuclear power plant, let’s say double the capacity of what is used to power the Paris region we could be future proofed for decades to come. Electrify all small vehicle traffic, electrify all rail and move home heating to electricity for buttons.

We already use nuclear power via interconnecting lines

It's an Irish solution to an Irish problem

Would you like a nuclear power station near your city ....not a hope that it would get planning

Remember the protests in wexford in the 70's....

Beside that, can you imagine the Irish planning and building a nuclear power plant? Lmao. Maybe after 30 years of planning and countless backhanders the most expensive power plant ever would be build in the most ridiculous location...

Anyhow I don't think nuclear energy is the answer to the problem, neither is electric cars. "

I’ve lived within cycling distance from nuclear power plants, not a bother to me if it was built right beside my house.

I agree with you on electrical cars, I don’t think they’re a solution to anything. Going back to basics with the conventional car would make far more sense in my weird and wonderful mind.

Throw out all the unnecessary crap and leave a basic means of transport with a frugal engine. A bit like the modern version of an old Land Rover or Morris Minor. Gets you safely from A to B in acceptable comfort for 3l/100km.

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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"Price for barrel of oil, is low, we shouldn’t be paying the prices at the petrol stations. Yet here we are.

Absolutely, massive exorbitant profits are being added by oil companies and the green agenda with carbon taxes and similar measures are driving the prices to insane levels.

There’s a tried and tested way out, nuclear energy. If it works for nearly seventy million French why couldn’t it work here.

If Ireland builds a decent nuclear power plant, let’s say double the capacity of what is used to power the Paris region we could be future proofed for decades to come. Electrify all small vehicle traffic, electrify all rail and move home heating to electricity for buttons.

We already use nuclear power via interconnecting lines

It's an Irish solution to an Irish problem

Would you like a nuclear power station near your city ....not a hope that it would get planning

Remember the protests in wexford in the 70's....

Beside that, can you imagine the Irish planning and building a nuclear power plant? Lmao. Maybe after 30 years of planning and countless backhanders the most expensive power plant ever would be build in the most ridiculous location...

Anyhow I don't think nuclear energy is the answer to the problem, neither is electric cars.

I’ve lived within cycling distance from nuclear power plants, not a bother to me if it was built right beside my house.

I agree with you on electrical cars, I don’t think they’re a solution to anything. Going back to basics with the conventional car would make far more sense in my weird and wonderful mind.

Throw out all the unnecessary crap and leave a basic means of transport with a frugal engine. A bit like the modern version of an old Land Rover or Morris Minor. Gets you safely from A to B in acceptable comfort for 3l/100km. "

I'm a fan of nuclear when it's done right, so definitely wouldn't trust it in the hands of the Irish authorities. We'd have another Chernobyl due to cost saving idiocy.

If you do nuclear, you do it properly and build to the highest standard.

You're getting irradiated far more being close to a coal plant than a nuclear plant because at least with nuclear, they try to keep all those materials inside, not burn them and release into the atmosphere only to fall down over the surroundings.

And EV vehicles are nothing but an attempt at keeping a crazy and unsustainable way of life going. One of the few chances we have is if we focus on degrowth, but that would be dreadful for this world economy so dependent on this silly idea that limitless growth is possible.

We're a species in overshoot and have no future if we continue on in this way we've normalised far too easily

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Degrowth is the enemy of capitalism. I can't see China style 1 child policy going down well here. Nuclear power IS NOT going to happen here. There have been protests about the interconnector also from the NIMBY crowd. It's impossible.

I honestly thing we need totally new technology. Fusion etc. If thay doesn't come along we are well and truly fucked.

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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"Degrowth is the enemy of capitalism. I can't see China style 1 child policy going down well here. Nuclear power IS NOT going to happen here. There have been protests about the interconnector also from the NIMBY crowd. It's impossible.

I honestly thing we need totally new technology. Fusion etc. If thay doesn't come along we are well and truly fucked."

Unfortunately I think you're right and we've become so indoctrinated into this new system that by the time it collapses, things are going to be much harder to organise for the civilisations and societies that come up in it's absence.

Sure what gives me hope is walking through the woods and seeing old abandoned buildings completely taken over by nature. That's how I imagine the 2100s.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What the proper attire for rioting in the UK ..Here it's body armor

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