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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"

Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??

"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would be to some if they didnt know the regiment refer to themselves as the micks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Is the term itself derogatory?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is the term itself derogatory?"

Can be to some. In this case the term was used as a nickname that the regiment used themselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a term normally used by the Yanks

Oops!

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By *ORDERMANMan
over a year ago

wrexham


"It's a term normally used by the Yanks

Oops! "

Think you meant septics...and I'm not saying oops

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By *ursecretmischiefCouple
over a year ago

The West


"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"

Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??

"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"

"

I would be in the "couldn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??" Bracket.

It's all just shite talk, to keep up the whole charade!...The Jubilee was very much forced this year. Kind of feels like the last hurrah.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Would be to some if they didnt know the regiment refer to themselves as the micks. "

And you got to the point faster than expected

You're right

However, the Irish news, Mirror and other websites are trying to stir up indignation

Good to see fabbers are above jumping on bandwagons!

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"

Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??

"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"

"

The guy who used this term wasn't an "entitled royalist wanker" as you put it.. it was a member of the unit that's nicknamed the micks. Its also quite telling that you are using insulting words to insult a man who you are saying insulted you.

(I wouldn't choose to use this word myself, but I don't think in this context he was using the word in an insulting way)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not at all offended tbh.

But I do think there are certain words that people should make an effort to phase out.

British society in relation to the Irish for example "micks paddy's and any reference to potato eaters".

Not intending to cause offence isn't an acceptable excuse when referring to using language that could potentially do so when referring to other races so I'm not sure it is here either

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By *ursecretmischiefCouple
over a year ago

The West


"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"

Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??

"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"

The guy who used this term wasn't an "entitled royalist wanker" as you put it.. it was a member of the unit that's nicknamed the micks. Its also quite telling that you are using insulting words to insult a man who you are saying insulted you.

(I wouldn't choose to use this word myself, but I don't think in this context he was using the word in an insulting way)"

Most people couldn't care less, but the origin of the nickname was derogatory!

The easily offended will be offended. In recent years the term has probably become more endearing within the military.

Like, I've never heard anybody get offended by "Paddy's Wigwam" in Liverpool!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"

Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??

"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"

The guy who used this term wasn't an "entitled royalist wanker" as you put it.. it was a member of the unit that's nicknamed the micks. Its also quite telling that you are using insulting words to insult a man who you are saying insulted you.

(I wouldn't choose to use this word myself, but I don't think in this context he was using the word in an insulting way)"

Where did i say i was insulted

Read my post again

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By *ombikerMan
over a year ago

the right side of the river

Anyone offended by the term Micks would not join them anyway, I doubt there are very many actual Irish men in the Irish guards any more as they would probably think they are a shower of micks with a capital P anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"

Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??

"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"

"

Is that the regiment that just had 6 members arrested for supply of drugs and firearms

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"

Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??

"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"

Is that the regiment that just had 6 members arrested for supply of drugs and firearms "

And money laundering

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By *antra MassageMan
over a year ago

city

10s of thousands of Micks, and former Micks are quite happy with the name.

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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago

Dublin


"10s of thousands of Micks, and former Micks are quite happy with the name. "

The reality is the vast majority aren't Irish though, so of course they are happy with the term.

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By *uttingstagsMan
over a year ago

Navan


"Would be to some if they didnt know the regiment refer to themselves as the micks. "

Indeed, and have been known by that nickname since forever and a day.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_of_British_Army_regiments

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By *odge72Man
over a year ago

clonmel

Wonder what the Ukrainians call their fellow countrymen in Russian Regiments ?

Being called a mick by the British while serving them

Sums up the servile attitude of a thankfully tiny cohort of Irish people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wonder what the Ukrainians call their fellow countrymen in Russian Regiments ?

Being called a mick by the British while serving them

Sums up the servile attitude of a thankfully tiny cohort of Irish people "

Wonder if the Welsh like being called Taff or the Scots Jock

I’m not a paddy or a mick, I’m Irish

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"Wonder what the Ukrainians call their fellow countrymen in Russian Regiments ?

Being called a mick by the British while serving them

Sums up the servile attitude of a thankfully tiny cohort of Irish people

Wonder if the Welsh like being called Taff or the Scots Jock

I’m not a paddy or a mick, I’m Irish "

.

Presumably you're not part of the royal Irish regiment.. so he wasn't referring to you.

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By *odge72Man
over a year ago

clonmel

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By *odge72Man
over a year ago

clonmel


"Wonder what the Ukrainians call their fellow countrymen in Russian Regiments ?

Being called a mick by the British while serving them

Sums up the servile attitude of a thankfully tiny cohort of Irish people

Wonder if the Welsh like being called Taff or the Scots Jock

I’m not a paddy or a mick, I’m Irish

.

Presumably you're not part of the royal Irish regiment.. so he wasn't referring to you. "

He was hardly referring to you either as you are a British migrant to the Republic of Ireland

See we can all do what you just did

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

So neither of us should be offended.. grand that's that all sorted so.

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By *odge72Man
over a year ago

clonmel


"So neither of us should be offended.. grand that's that all sorted so."

It’s not up to you to decide whether I or anyone else is offended or not

But you keep Tansplaining things away

There’s a good lad

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"So neither of us should be offended.. grand that's that all sorted so.

It’s not up to you to decide whether I or anyone else is offended or not

But you keep Tansplaining things away

There’s a good lad

"

Congratulations on not seeing the irony of using an ACTUAL attempted insult, while trying to be insulted about the nickname of a foreign regiment.

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By *odge72Man
over a year ago

clonmel


"So neither of us should be offended.. grand that's that all sorted so.

It’s not up to you to decide whether I or anyone else is offended or not

But you keep Tansplaining things away

There’s a good lad

Congratulations on not seeing the irony of using an ACTUAL attempted insult, while trying to be insulted about the nickname of a foreign regiment."

Aye

A foreign.regiment appropriating the Irish name

Be straight about it

You ain’t Irish if you are in the British Army

You are British

Serving the British

The irony of Unionists who despise anything Irish serving in a British regiment with Irish in the title

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere


"So neither of us should be offended.. grand that's that all sorted so.

It’s not up to you to decide whether I or anyone else is offended or not

But you keep Tansplaining things away

There’s a good lad

Congratulations on not seeing the irony of using an ACTUAL attempted insult, while trying to be insulted about the nickname of a foreign regiment.

Aye

A foreign.regiment appropriating the Irish name

Be straight about it

You ain’t Irish if you are in the British Army

You are British

Serving the British

The irony of Unionists who despise anything Irish serving in a British regiment with Irish in the title "

Must change all the records in The war memorial gardens in Dublin to British for all the Irishmen and boys who died in The first world war fighting in The Royal Irish Regiment

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany. "

That's fair... but its the same the world over incl in the UK. Its poor working class lads with limited opportunities that end up with guns in war zones.

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By *odge72Man
over a year ago

clonmel


"So neither of us should be offended.. grand that's that all sorted so.

It’s not up to you to decide whether I or anyone else is offended or not

But you keep Tansplaining things away

There’s a good lad

Congratulations on not seeing the irony of using an ACTUAL attempted insult, while trying to be insulted about the nickname of a foreign regiment.

Aye

A foreign.regiment appropriating the Irish name

Be straight about it

You ain’t Irish if you are in the British Army

You are British

Serving the British

The irony of Unionists who despise anything Irish serving in a British regiment with Irish in the title

Must change all the records in The war memorial gardens in Dublin to British for all the Irishmen and boys who died in The first world war fighting in The Royal Irish Regiment

"

Cannon fodder when first cousins fell out

And then when Irish people wanted their independence,the British Army sexually assaulted pillaged and burned their way round Ireland

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany. "

Some did, to escape poverty. Some joined for the adventure. Some joined because of John Redmond's campaign.

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By *ORDERMANMan
over a year ago

wrexham

Also even since independence many Irish men from the Republic,I may add, served In the British forces, as it was a gaurenteed job.

Wasn't always revealed back home, 'oh Where's your Seamus these days Mrs Doyle..?...oh working in a factory in birmingham'...the reality 2as he was serving in the British army or RAF

Was it not a few years ago that a lad from Limerickwas killed in Actio n serving abroad..

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By *andytownMan
over a year ago

Gods Own Country


"Commentator on the bbc called the irish guards "the micks"

Fine? Derogatory? Or coukdn't give a shit what entitled royalist wankers think??

"The Micks have this fantastic mix of guards' discipline and pursuit of excellence, with that Irish 'irrational tenth' if I can quote Lawrence of Arabia, which makes it the best regiment on the planet"

"

Poor form saying "entitled royalist wankers" but to be expected

Fine Regiment is the Micks, they wear that with pride and will continue to do so.

Uppa Micks

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By *acob12369Man
over a year ago

URPANTS

Some of them are pricks though

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By *andytownMan
over a year ago

Gods Own Country


"Some of them are pricks though"

Aren't we all

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By *ateniteCouple
over a year ago

Youghal

Best 12 years of my life.

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By *andytownMan
over a year ago

Gods Own Country


"Best 12 years of my life."

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By *umon337Man
over a year ago

Offaly

It's offensive when an English person calls you a "spud thick mick"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany. "

I think it's a shame that these men , in the south especially, dont get the recognition

Poppy day has become too political

A green poppy?

But remember men who fought

Argue over rights and wrongs of various conflicts, but these men were, and are, the best of us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany.

I think it's a shame that these men , in the south especially, dont get the recognition

Poppy day has become too political

A green poppy?

But remember men who fought

Argue over rights and wrongs of various conflicts, but these men were, and are, the best of us"

I don't know I think there is a conversation to be had about how we recognise lives lost in war. In the US and UK its become such a tool for propaganda and recruitment that it drives people towards the armed forces, thus creating the new generation of cannon fodder for the people who make policy.

It's then used as a tool to shit down any antiwar conversations because the loud minority shout about disrespecting the dead etc....

I don't think it's as simple as just recognise those who gave their lives any longer and especially as we move further away from ww2 and its encompassing more and more morally gray wars

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Thinking back I'm really not sure I've ever heard anyone call an Irish person a mick in real life... I think i only heard it in American movies. Its certainly quite an old fashioned term. English people mostly call Irish people Irish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thinking back I'm really not sure I've ever heard anyone call an Irish person a mick in real life... I think i only heard it in American movies. Its certainly quite an old fashioned term. English people mostly call Irish people Irish."

As soon as I reveal I'm Irish in any of the online games I play ots a barrage of "banter" about being a paddy and a potato eater from the English people. I know it's not malicious but its certainly a thing. Ya mick I haven't heard either though

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By *odge72Man
over a year ago

clonmel


"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany.

I think it's a shame that these men , in the south especially, dont get the recognition

Poppy day has become too political

A green poppy?

But remember men who fought

Argue over rights and wrongs of various conflicts, but these men were, and are, the best of us"

we actually have our own National day of

remembrance held annually

Which remembers all Irish men who have died in conflict

We don’t need to ape British Tradtions or fund the British Legion when the British government should with their muilti billion military budget be taking care of their own veterans anyways and not leaving them to charity

We should be publicising our own Irish day more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any negative connotations are all in the past, members of this regiment call themselves micks, its just a name, don't get hung up on it

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"Thinking back I'm really not sure I've ever heard anyone call an Irish person a mick in real life... I think i only heard it in American movies. Its certainly quite an old fashioned term. English people mostly call Irish people Irish.

As soon as I reveal I'm Irish in any of the online games I play ots a barrage of "banter" about being a paddy and a potato eater from the English people. I know it's not malicious but its certainly a thing. Ya mick I haven't heard either though"

That's just trash talk though right? Similar would happen if a German guy joined... or (God forbid) a girl

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany.

I think it's a shame that these men , in the south especially, dont get the recognition

Poppy day has become too political

A green poppy?

But remember men who fought

Argue over rights and wrongs of various conflicts, but these men were, and are, the best of us

we actually have our own National day of

remembrance held annually

Which remembers all Irish men who have died in conflict

We don’t need to ape British Tradtions or fund the British Legion when the British government should with their muilti billion military budget be taking care of their own veterans anyways and not leaving them to charity

We should be publicising our own Irish day more

"

I'd be happy enough if there was an Irish symbol worn in remembrance of Irish people who died.

I wouldn't agree that they were somehow "the best of us". I'm sure some of them may have been, some of them may not have been, but that's a side issue. The difficulty I have with the British legion's poppy is mostly the British legion, and the fact that the poppy is worn to remember members of the British forces who died in all conflicts, as well as to show support for all past and present members of the British armed forces. That can never be appropriate in this country.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast


"Would it be fair to say that most Irishmen who joined the British Army at the beginning of the 20th century did so in order to escape their impoverished backgrounds; and they then later became cannon fodder fighting in the first industrialised war, fought in the cockpit of Europe; Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany.

I think it's a shame that these men , in the south especially, dont get the recognition

Poppy day has become too political

A green poppy?

But remember men who fought

Argue over rights and wrongs of various conflicts, but these men were, and are, the best of us

we actually have our own National day of

remembrance held annually

Which remembers all Irish men who have died in conflict

We don’t need to ape British Tradtions or fund the British Legion when the British government should with their muilti billion military budget be taking care of their own veterans anyways and not leaving them to charity

We should be publicising our own Irish day more

I'd be happy enough if there was an Irish symbol worn in remembrance of Irish people who died.

I wouldn't agree that they were somehow "the best of us". I'm sure some of them may have been, some of them may not have been, but that's a side issue. The difficulty I have with the British legion's poppy is mostly the British legion, and the fact that the poppy is worn to remember members of the British forces who died in all conflicts, as well as to show support for all past and present members of the British armed forces. That can never be appropriate in this country. "

The Poppy is actually classed as a political symbol.

I was a trustee of a charitable organisation for years and the person responsible for our social media added a poppy on our sm pages without discussing it with the trustees.

Within hours and before we had even discussed it we received a message from the Charity Commission to say that we were in breach of their R&R by displaying a political symbol and if we didn't remove it immediately we would lose our charitable status.

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

I like the Idea of a green poppy wreath

I buy a red poppy wreath from The Uk for the war memorial Gardens in Dublin for a young 17 yr old boy that died in WW1

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By *orkcoastguyMan
over a year ago

Bridlington.


"Would be to some if they didnt know the regiment refer to themselves as the micks. "

And very proud they are of the nick-name too.

And it is the 'Micks' with a capital M!

On the theme of the Birthday parade, it was splendid to hear the Dub accent on the guardsman who was handling Seamus, the mascot; then the Irish tunes echoing around Horse Guards.

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By *tranger on the shoreMan
over a year ago

nearby

Im commenting just to comment on a post. Seems to be the thing to do for some people

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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago

Dublin

Imagine there was a regiment in the British army called the African Guards and they affectionately called themselves the nigg*rs and then claimed it wasn't offensive at all because the predominantly white members of the African guards didn't consider it an insult.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"Im commenting just to comment on a post. Seems to be the thing to do for some people"

Erm... aren't all comments just comments to comment?

At least everyone else posted things relevant to the subject at hand

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"Imagine there was a regiment in the British army called the African Guards and they affectionately called themselves the nigg*rs and then claimed it wasn't offensive at all because the predominantly white members of the African guards didn't consider it an insult. "

Very good point. Hard to argue with that.

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By *tranger on the shoreMan
over a year ago

nearby


"Im commenting just to comment on a post. Seems to be the thing to do for some people

Erm... aren't all comments just comments to comment?

At least everyone else posted things relevant to the subject at hand "

Thats true perhaps i should just pick the opposite opinion and post something on that instead

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