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"What about now and again sex in a relationship? How little is unhealthy??" I don't think there is one rule for everyone. Different people have different sex drives and can tolerate different sexless periods. | |||
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"What about now and again sex in a relationship? How little is unhealthy?? I don't think there is one rule for everyone. Different people have different sex drives and can tolerate different sexless periods." Yes, different people have different sex drive. We think physical intimacy is very important in a relationship, the volume of sex would come second! | |||
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"What about now and again sex in a relationship? How little is unhealthy?? I don't think there is one rule for everyone. Different people have different sex drives and can tolerate different sexless periods. Kids, the little feckers have a lot to answer for!!" I hear you. We have 5 in the house and there is no greater cock blocker than small needy humans, combined with tiredness and stress... not to mention the effect pregnancy and birth has on bodies. | |||
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"If I was getting sex off the wife I wouldn’t be on here" Used to have fantastic sex with my wife. Last 5-6 years it’s just gone flat and neither can be bothered mostly. In the past we would have done it everywhere. When we started going out she didn’t like from behind, that changed soon enough! Lol | |||
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"If I was getting sex off the wife I wouldn’t be on here" What he said....however being on here doesn't get me any either but the craic is good so I hang around..with her and here | |||
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"If I was getting sex off the wife I wouldn’t be on here What he said....however being on here doesn't get me any either but the craic is good so I hang around..with her and here " What they said | |||
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"I'm here due to sexless marriage, still love him but to young to not be having sex,had a conversation and he knows I'm here so nothing hidden " Same situation with my wife. Her libido has nose dived but this is due her bipolar meds so it isn’t her fault. I never made her feel bad about it or complained about it because I knew it wasn’t her fault. So me getting sex elsewhere was actually her idea. Hence why I’m here. Still a lot of love and affection in our marriage, just with the physical love making. | |||
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"I guess I'd be in the same boat like some of you on here. For a good number of years my wife and myself had no sex...circa 10 years now. She lost her interest in sex after we had kids. Since then I have decided to join fab and have not been as successful as most single men on here...many women are against married guys. Sad but true." is your understanding that people on a swinging site it shouldn't matter if your married or not. I'm not getting at you, but I've noticed if you choose not to get involved with someone that's in a relationship some not all get offended if you say no thank you . | |||
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"If I was getting sex off the wife I wouldn’t be on here" Your wife must be related to mine!!??? | |||
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"I have a wonderful, practical relationship with my wife. We get on great and have 3 wonderful sons. I have to pre-emtpt this by saying that I haven't read the previous posts. My wife's menopause was life changing for both of us,really really difficult and its amazing we are still together. Her libedo was/is shot to shit but she has been so unselfish to accommodate my needs. I'll probably regret posting this but fuck it, but anyway its the truth. Here goes Lol" fair play to you for posting, do not worry what other people think | |||
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"I have a wonderful, practical relationship with my wife. We get on great and have 3 wonderful sons. I have to pre-emtpt this by saying that I haven't read the previous posts. My wife's menopause was life changing for both of us,really really difficult and its amazing we are still together. Her libedo was/is shot to shit but she has been so unselfish to accommodate my needs. I'll probably regret posting this but fuck it, but anyway its the truth. Here goes Lol fair play to you for posting, do not worry what other people think " Cheers man, just thought I was being a bit too open and vulnerable to negative responses. | |||
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"I'm on here as my wife has MS and we have not been intimate for at least 5 years. I have gotten over no sex it is the stress that is killing me. I was at the Alt desires social and had such a laugh, which I needed. There has to be a connection for sex to be really enjoyable. We are still the best of friends but your health is your wealth. There are some men out there and they treat women like dirt. I have respect for women " there is women that treat men like dirt... | |||
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"I guess I'd be in the same boat like some of you on here. For a good number of years my wife and myself had no sex...circa 10 years now. She lost her interest in sex after we had kids. Since then I have decided to join fab and have not been as successful as most single men on here...many women are against married guys. Sad but true. is your understanding that people on a swinging site it shouldn't matter if your married or not. I'm not getting at you, but I've noticed if you choose not to get involved with someone that's in a relationship some not all get offended if you say no thank you . " It should not matter but majority just rather single guys. I do respect that therefore I don't cry a river on here. To me it would be even better meet married person due to same level of interest in sex. I'm not saying that single are not on the same level , lol . Single people tend to look for a relationship somewhere at the back of theirs heads...or I could be mistaken. | |||
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"I'm on here as my wife has MS and we have not been intimate for at least 5 years. I have gotten over no sex it is the stress that is killing me. I was at the Alt desires social and had such a laugh, which I needed. There has to be a connection for sex to be really enjoyable. We are still the best of friends but your health is your wealth. There are some men out there and they treat women like dirt. I have respect for women " That's the thing. Mutual respect is very important. Otherwise...why ? Why would you disrespect others. | |||
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"We all have our own reasons to be on fab it's not a dating site, knowbody can judge anyone and they do, it's a swinging site and I love it ...without the drama of course x lou " Most sensible response I’ve heard on here… Xxx | |||
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"Its a shame so many married women who are in sexless or sexually unfulfilling marriages on here cannot see what they have in common with married men in the same position. A majority of profiles of women in this situation say "no married men dont want the hassle" or "single guys only" i know its a personal preference but it seems men in this situation have a much harder time meeting anyone" Unfortunately, you are dead right. It is virtually impossible. If you are patient enough...you might get few meets, but agree...there is no way like myself that I would get as much meets as single guys. Patients pays off so it is really worth it. You would appreciate it more. | |||
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"Quite a few very sad and understandable / relatable stories here. I really feel for people in marriages where circumstances mean that sex is off the cards. The problem is we all know the issues around meeting those who just fancy an extra bit on the side. Getting harassed by jealous wives, getting followed, being involved (unwittingly or otherwise) in causing massive hurt . How are potential meets to know the difference? Is this person doing something damaging to someone else? Does this person have permission? Is there going to be comeback on me? Will someone be upset and hurt by this? Are this persons circumstances exactly as they are claiming? It's easier to just avoid, particularly for women who have multiple other choices available to them. " You really don't like married men do you | |||
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"Gonna go back to we humans being basically animals. Our brains are not built for monogamy. It's semi forced ingrained social morals that make it feel we are. You love that person. Then it's only them you have to be with. Jealousy and envy come from our baser instincts. I'll ask..and be honest with yourself. How many have made it obvious that your partner was yours by sidling up to them or Running your hands over them etc ?.. especially early in the relationship when you perceived someone flirting with them. Yet went oh he/she looks yummy or enjoyed the attention when it was you getting it. Just not following through because of your partners feelings. A vast majority here keep swinging a secret from their real life... Why? To a degree I think it's the vanilla folk might make you feel shame. Yet..they themselves feel envy because you're able to swing and enjoy it. " Read "Sex at Dawn" on the biological reasons humans are not meant to be monogamous. Its a social. construct. | |||
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"Lots of men posting atm. As a former wife, I was so stressed out with a demanding job, young children and a husband who did nothing to help. Eventually I did not want sex with him, it was literally like having a big child in the house. He bored me, I resented doing all the household chores and all the responsibilities placed on me by him. Living with someone is not for me, most men of my age want to be looked after. Manogonmy like that is not for me." Men are getting a real bashing here as always.....but everyone is entitled to their opinion as they should be | |||
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"Lots of men posting atm. As a former wife, I was so stressed out with a demanding job, young children and a husband who did nothing to help. Eventually I did not want sex with him, it was literally like having a big child in the house. He bored me, I resented doing all the household chores and all the responsibilities placed on me by him. Living with someone is not for me, most men of my age want to be looked after. Manogonmy like that is not for me." Wow...it still baffles me that a lot of men and women don't realise that a healthy relationship needs balance and team work and taking up the slack when the other just can't. Regardless of the dynamic. Other wise it just leads to taking for granted and resentment. If mine has made the dinner or been in work when I'm off..her hands won't touch an item of laundry or a dish. Though..I do enjoy cooking. So most of the time I do it. .so I end up cleaning them when finished using them as I cook. OCD thing lol. But we have what I call fuck it days. Where both literally do nothing. No phones. No emails..no anything but each other. Movies, cuddles. Let everything pile up for the day. And only food that's good for the soul..pizza,l..fish and chip etc. I understand that's hard to do with kids. But try include or bribe where you can lol | |||
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"Lots of men posting atm. As a former wife, I was so stressed out with a demanding job, young children and a husband who did nothing to help. Eventually I did not want sex with him, it was literally like having a big child in the house. He bored me, I resented doing all the household chores and all the responsibilities placed on me by him. Living with someone is not for me, most men of my age want to be looked after. Manogonmy like that is not for me. Wow...it still baffles me that a lot of men and women don't realise that a healthy relationship needs balance and team work and taking up the slack when the other just can't. Regardless of the dynamic. Other wise it just leads to taking for granted and resentment. If mine has made the dinner or been in work when I'm off..her hands won't touch an item of laundry or a dish. Though..I do enjoy cooking. So most of the time I do it. .so I end up cleaning them when finished using them as I cook. OCD thing lol. But we have what I call fuck it days. Where both literally do nothing. No phones. No emails..no anything but each other. Movies, cuddles. Let everything pile up for the day. And only food that's good for the soul..pizza,l..fish and chip etc. I understand that's hard to do with kids. But try include or bribe where you can lol" Ok, so what do you think of a guy that does the cooking, the cleaning up after he served her food, the hoovering, the laundry, the ironing, the lighting of fires, the taxiing of kids, and basically nearly all the housework, including the shopping?? And keeps down a full time job, just like his wife!!! And she still has no interest in him or sex??? Either I'm an ugly fucker, which I've been told I'm not or a fucking fool?? Take your pick!!! | |||
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"Lots of men posting atm. As a former wife, I was so stressed out with a demanding job, young children and a husband who did nothing to help. Eventually I did not want sex with him, it was literally like having a big child in the house. He bored me, I resented doing all the household chores and all the responsibilities placed on me by him. Living with someone is not for me, most men of my age want to be looked after. Manogonmy like that is not for me. Wow...it still baffles me that a lot of men and women don't realise that a healthy relationship needs balance and team work and taking up the slack when the other just can't. Regardless of the dynamic. Other wise it just leads to taking for granted and resentment. If mine has made the dinner or been in work when I'm off..her hands won't touch an item of laundry or a dish. Though..I do enjoy cooking. So most of the time I do it. .so I end up cleaning them when finished using them as I cook. OCD thing lol. But we have what I call fuck it days. Where both literally do nothing. No phones. No emails..no anything but each other. Movies, cuddles. Let everything pile up for the day. And only food that's good for the soul..pizza,l..fish and chip etc. I understand that's hard to do with kids. But try include or bribe where you can lol Ok, so what do you think of a guy that does the cooking, the cleaning up after he served her food, the hoovering, the laundry, the ironing, the lighting of fires, the taxiing of kids, and basically nearly all the housework, including the shopping?? And keeps down a full time job, just like his wife!!! And she still has no interest in him or sex??? Either I'm an ugly fucker, which I've been told I'm not or a fucking fool?? Take your pick!!!" That falls in to taking for granted...like I said. It's men and women. I don't have kids..yet if my gf stayed at home all the time. While I worked and helped now and then..she'd deffo get the side eye if she complained. To me..one sided relationships are toxic in their own way. However.... exceptions are made for depression etc. But even then you have to push the person a little in some ways. But NEVER in the way of ultimatums. | |||
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"Lots of men posting atm. As a former wife, I was so stressed out with a demanding job, young children and a husband who did nothing to help. Eventually I did not want sex with him, it was literally like having a big child in the house. He bored me, I resented doing all the household chores and all the responsibilities placed on me by him. Living with someone is not for me, most men of my age want to be looked after. Manogonmy like that is not for me. Wow...it still baffles me that a lot of men and women don't realise that a healthy relationship needs balance and team work and taking up the slack when the other just can't. Regardless of the dynamic. Other wise it just leads to taking for granted and resentment. If mine has made the dinner or been in work when I'm off..her hands won't touch an item of laundry or a dish. Though..I do enjoy cooking. So most of the time I do it. .so I end up cleaning them when finished using them as I cook. OCD thing lol. But we have what I call fuck it days. Where both literally do nothing. No phones. No emails..no anything but each other. Movies, cuddles. Let everything pile up for the day. And only food that's good for the soul..pizza,l..fish and chip etc. I understand that's hard to do with kids. But try include or bribe where you can lol Ok, so what do you think of a guy that does the cooking, the cleaning up after he served her food, the hoovering, the laundry, the ironing, the lighting of fires, the taxiing of kids, and basically nearly all the housework, including the shopping?? And keeps down a full time job, just like his wife!!! And she still has no interest in him or sex??? Either I'm an ugly fucker, which I've been told I'm not or a fucking fool?? Take your pick!!! That falls in to taking for granted...like I said. It's men and women. I don't have kids..yet if my gf stayed at home all the time. While I worked and helped now and then..she'd deffo get the side eye if she complained. To me..one sided relationships are toxic in their own way. However.... exceptions are made for depression etc. But even then you have to push the person a little in some ways. But NEVER in the way of ultimatums. " Servant is what I call myself!! But unfortunately not a sex servant!! | |||
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"Lots of men posting atm. As a former wife, I was so stressed out with a demanding job, young children and a husband who did nothing to help. Eventually I did not want sex with him, it was literally like having a big child in the house. He bored me, I resented doing all the household chores and all the responsibilities placed on me by him. Living with someone is not for me, most men of my age want to be looked after. Manogonmy like that is not for me. Wow...it still baffles me that a lot of men and women don't realise that a healthy relationship needs balance and team work and taking up the slack when the other just can't. Regardless of the dynamic. Other wise it just leads to taking for granted and resentment. If mine has made the dinner or been in work when I'm off..her hands won't touch an item of laundry or a dish. Though..I do enjoy cooking. So most of the time I do it. .so I end up cleaning them when finished using them as I cook. OCD thing lol. But we have what I call fuck it days. Where both literally do nothing. No phones. No emails..no anything but each other. Movies, cuddles. Let everything pile up for the day. And only food that's good for the soul..pizza,l..fish and chip etc. I understand that's hard to do with kids. But try include or bribe where you can lol Ok, so what do you think of a guy that does the cooking, the cleaning up after he served her food, the hoovering, the laundry, the ironing, the lighting of fires, the taxiing of kids, and basically nearly all the housework, including the shopping?? And keeps down a full time job, just like his wife!!! And she still has no interest in him or sex??? Either I'm an ugly fucker, which I've been told I'm not or a fucking fool?? Take your pick!!! That falls in to taking for granted...like I said. It's men and women. I don't have kids..yet if my gf stayed at home all the time. While I worked and helped now and then..she'd deffo get the side eye if she complained. To me..one sided relationships are toxic in their own way. However.... exceptions are made for depression etc. But even then you have to push the person a little in some ways. But NEVER in the way of ultimatums. Servant is what I call myself!! But unfortunately not a sex servant!! " Just wondering if she is depressed if possible. have you brought it up? I think I feel in what you say. There is resentment. If so..it's a cancer to a relationship. Which eat away at it. Until there is nothing but bile and hatred left. Gotta treat that shit early. Can't stress enough how important communication is. I do what I call checking in. Where I plainly ask if any issues have popped up. But ya have to leave pride and defensiveness at the door. And take what the person has to say at face value. If it's something that can't be fixed. Ask if it's something they can live with. If not. Both have to really think where the relationship is or needs to be going. | |||
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"Is just simply “ fed up “ with long term relationship enough to end it? I know what she is going to say before she says it, many stupid things cause silly arguments. Are we supposed to sit down every few days and discuss our feelings?? Christ, many days I just want to be on my own. But is that worth the pain, angst, disappointment, loss of home, disappointed from off spring, relatives, financial loss, guilt, and I’m not even having an affair. I just can’t see a solution. The mood swings kill me, not mine! Excuse me, I’m just venting. " Being unhappy is absolutely a good reason to split... you deserve happiness. | |||
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"Is just simply “ fed up “ with long term relationship enough to end it? I know what she is going to say before she says it, many stupid things cause silly arguments. Are we supposed to sit down every few days and discuss our feelings?? Christ, many days I just want to be on my own. But is that worth the pain, angst, disappointment, loss of home, disappointed from off spring, relatives, financial loss, guilt, and I’m not even having an affair. I just can’t see a solution. The mood swings kill me, not mine! Excuse me, I’m just venting. Being unhappy is absolutely a good reason to split... you deserve happiness." Fed up and unhappy are two totally different things. I get fed up with herself sometimes as she does with me......that's life you will disappoint and irritate each other and you move on from it. If your unhappy then there is a bigger problem than just being fed up | |||
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"Is just simply “ fed up “ with long term relationship enough to end it? I know what she is going to say before she says it, many stupid things cause silly arguments. Are we supposed to sit down every few days and discuss our feelings?? Christ, many days I just want to be on my own. But is that worth the pain, angst, disappointment, loss of home, disappointed from off spring, relatives, financial loss, guilt, and I’m not even having an affair. I just can’t see a solution. The mood swings kill me, not mine! Excuse me, I’m just venting. " Well..to start..you have to really consider in you heart if you want to end it. If it's yes. Then you know what you have to do. No one is responsible for your happiness but you. Only outside factors effect it. So it's up to you whether those factors are worth the effect on you and your happiness. However..if you rely on others for your happiness. Then the issue may lay in you. And ask why it's the case. | |||
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"Is just simply “ fed up “ with long term relationship enough to end it? I know what she is going to say before she says it, many stupid things cause silly arguments. Are we supposed to sit down every few days and discuss our feelings?? Christ, many days I just want to be on my own. But is that worth the pain, angst, disappointment, loss of home, disappointed from off spring, relatives, financial loss, guilt, and I’m not even having an affair. I just can’t see a solution. The mood swings kill me, not mine! Excuse me, I’m just venting. Being unhappy is absolutely a good reason to split... you deserve happiness. Fed up and unhappy are two totally different things. I get fed up with herself sometimes as she does with me......that's life you will disappoint and irritate each other and you move on from it. If your unhappy then there is a bigger problem than just being fed up " Great! If you're happy with your relationship then you're lucky! | |||
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"Is just simply “ fed up “ with long term relationship enough to end it? I know what she is going to say before she says it, many stupid things cause silly arguments. Are we supposed to sit down every few days and discuss our feelings?? Christ, many days I just want to be on my own. But is that worth the pain, angst, disappointment, loss of home, disappointed from off spring, relatives, financial loss, guilt, and I’m not even having an affair. I just can’t see a solution. The mood swings kill me, not mine! Excuse me, I’m just venting. Well..to start..you have to really consider in you heart if you want to end it. If it's yes. Then you know what you have to do. No one is responsible for your happiness but you. Only outside factors effect it. So it's up to you whether those factors are worth the effect on you and your happiness. However..if you rely on others for your happiness. Then the issue may lay in you. And ask why it's the case. " To be honest I just couldn’t do it to her. | |||
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" Great! If you're happy with your relationship then you're lucky!" Luck had nothing to do it.... everything in life needs work to maintain it......just gotta put the work in | |||
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" Great! If you're happy with your relationship then you're lucky! Luck had nothing to do it.... everything in life needs work to maintain it......just gotta put the work in" I'd suggest many put the work in and still can't make relationships work, and that there is an element of luck, same goes for sickness or accidents / mental illness. | |||
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" Great! If you're happy with your relationship then you're lucky! Luck had nothing to do it.... everything in life needs work to maintain it......just gotta put the work in I'd suggest many put the work in and still can't make relationships work, and that there is an element of luck, same goes for sickness or accidents / mental illness." Gotta disagree there.... accidents are luck, winning the lotto is luck.......mental illness isn't a matter of luck, if two people can't work something out isn't a matter of luck. | |||
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"Is just simply “ fed up “ with long term relationship enough to end it? I know what she is going to say before she says it, many stupid things cause silly arguments. Are we supposed to sit down every few days and discuss our feelings?? Christ, many days I just want to be on my own. But is that worth the pain, angst, disappointment, loss of home, disappointed from off spring, relatives, financial loss, guilt, and I’m not even having an affair. I just can’t see a solution. The mood swings kill me, not mine! Excuse me, I’m just venting. Well..to start..you have to really consider in you heart if you want to end it. If it's yes. Then you know what you have to do. No one is responsible for your happiness but you. Only outside factors effect it. So it's up to you whether those factors are worth the effect on you and your happiness. However..if you rely on others for your happiness. Then the issue may lay in you. And ask why it's the case. To be honest I just couldn’t do it to her." Dan, pal. That tells me there is still something there. Yes the relationship may have become a little stale. May I ask your thoughts of bringing her to fab? If positive response from you both Delete your old account n make a new couples one. Let her take it at her own pace. But you both really have to know in your heart if you happy with sharing and exploring. Only going to the depths where both are happy. Or..maybe without realising you have both stopped doing the little things. Or..introduce new little things. For example.. recently myself and ms wolf have started falling asleep with our lips touching. Her bottom lip resting in-between mime. Soo fucking intimate. Also as a rule. No matter how angry one is with another or fed up. Affection NEVER denied. What ever is in range of our hands gets rubbed. Feet..legs..back..head etc whatever. | |||
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"What about now and again sex in a relationship? How little is unhealthy?? I don't think there is one rule for everyone. Different people have different sex drives and can tolerate different sexless periods. Yes, different people have different sex drive. We think physical intimacy is very important in a relationship, the volume of sex would come second! " Agreed, cuddles and other forms of non-sexual physical connection are essential to maintaining a relationship when sex drives differ. A person can feel very lost, lonely and unwanted without caring touch. | |||
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"Agreed, cuddles and other forms of non-sexual physical connection are essential to maintaining a relationship when sex drives differ. A person can feel very lost, lonely and unwanted without caring touch." That is the most accurate statement made here.... | |||
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"Lots of men posting atm. As a former wife, I was so stressed out with a demanding job, young children and a husband who did nothing to help. Eventually I did not want sex with him, it was literally like having a big child in the house. He bored me, I resented doing all the household chores and all the responsibilities placed on me by him. Living with someone is not for me, most men of my age want to be looked after. Manogonmy like that is not for me." I find it intresting that the blame for relationships failing is often placed on men for not helping out with the household chores, which i honestly believe should absolutely be shared. But i have never heard it said that women are expected to mow a lawn, service their own car, or do the tasks that traditionally would have been expected to be done by the "man" of the house. I do of course recognise many women are capable of doing these things but i never hear it brought up in the narritive of why relationships arnt working. | |||
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"Lots of men posting atm. As a former wife, I was so stressed out with a demanding job, young children and a husband who did nothing to help. Eventually I did not want sex with him, it was literally like having a big child in the house. He bored me, I resented doing all the household chores and all the responsibilities placed on me by him. Living with someone is not for me, most men of my age want to be looked after. Manogonmy like that is not for me. I find it intresting that the blame for relationships failing is often placed on men for not helping out with the household chores, which i honestly believe should absolutely be shared. But i have never heard it said that women are expected to mow a lawn, service their own car, or do the tasks that traditionally would have been expected to be done by the "man" of the house. I do of course recognise many women are capable of doing these things but i never hear it brought up in the narritive of why relationships arnt working." It's not just that...I've had GFs that ended up being short term GFs. All progressive but only when in their favour. I consider myself as an egalitarian. It's fine to have a dynamic in a relationship. But there MUST be balance. Without it, resentment sets in over time. Which effects everything across the board. Another is who should pay on first meet..blah blah both should....but ladies..come on. We are judged on it if we don't. It's our pleasure to. Or at the least I'm speaking for myself. Yes I know there are idiots who feel they are owed something because they paid. Those fuckers should crawl back in to the cave they came from. . However. My own personal opinion is the person who offered the invite should pay. | |||
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"Agreed, cuddles and other forms of non-sexual physical connection are essential to maintaining a relationship when sex drives differ. A person can feel very lost, lonely and unwanted without caring touch. That is the most accurate statement made here...." I second this | |||
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"Was In a,sexless relationship for 4 years in one way it was my fault,she mentally and verbally broke me down to nothing so to touch her was never going to happen again, so if someone loses their want for sex naturally is one thing, but to be with a person you fear and hate that a different world to live in..." So sorry to hear that | |||
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"Is just simply “ fed up “ with long term relationship enough to end it? I know what she is going to say before she says it, many stupid things cause silly arguments. Are we supposed to sit down every few days and discuss our feelings?? Christ, many days I just want to be on my own. But is that worth the pain, angst, disappointment, loss of home, disappointed from off spring, relatives, financial loss, guilt, and I’m not even having an affair. I just can’t see a solution. The mood swings kill me, not mine! Excuse me, I’m just venting. " My motto in Life is if your not Happy Change it !! You cant always please everyone else. What about your happiness. Ive seen my own Mam on her death bed with regrets from my Step Dad, that always sticks in my mind. How she just settled for less than she deserved. No home , kids ,finances would ever stop me leaving an unhappy marraige. Lifes wayyy too short & I dont want to ever settle. Treat me like a Queen & il treat him like a king. | |||
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"Does it work? No... " Excellent Discussion | |||
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"For some guess they just accept & settle!! My Mam did for years & she was wayyyy too young. Couldnt go on holidays or he moan , or go out , eventually they sleeped seperatley in a friendship marraige I guess. In my eyes she gave up all her freedom / enjoying life , for what to have regrets . Dont think I could settle for a non intamite marraige. Intamcy is paramount to sustaining a healthy loving relationship. " I completely agree, in my opinion you can't have a healthy relationship without intimacy and desire for eachother | |||
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"Jeez the amount of men on here in sexless marraiges. And I can understand. Maybe Menapouse has a lot to answer for. And communication & respect breaking down." Communication helps in some cases, not all the time, and if you go on Reddit r/deadbedroom you'd be surprised how many women and men are in the same situation | |||
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"Great discussion, it’s very easy to judge relationships from the outside. A sexless relationship can work for some people as long as they are both happy with that. Some are OK with their partner having sex outside the relationship, but it’s definitely the minority. It’s normal to go through phases of being uninterested in sex, for a variety of different reasons, the main thing is to keep the physical contact, touch and sensuality is so important." Until the dilemma hits we think we have all the answers , No matter how much you love someone it’s still a two way street and getting them to explain there feeling is very difficult and we feel pushed away and we don’t have the answers love !!! V lust | |||
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"Great discussion, it’s very easy to judge relationships from the outside. A sexless relationship can work for some people as long as they are both happy with that. Some are OK with their partner having sex outside the relationship, but it’s definitely the minority. It’s normal to go through phases of being uninterested in sex, for a variety of different reasons, the main thing is to keep the physical contact, touch and sensuality is so important.Until the dilemma hits we think we have all the answers , No matter how much you love someone it’s still a two way street and getting them to explain there feeling is very difficult and we feel pushed away and we don’t have the answers love !!! V lust " This is where couples counselling can be really useful. A safe space that's facilitated by an expert who can coax out the issues. | |||
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"Jeez the amount of men on here in sexless marraiges. And I can understand. Maybe Menapouse has a lot to answer for. And communication & respect breaking down." Theres probaly similar amount of women on here proportionatley the difference is they are more accepted for their indecretions there for dont advertise they are married/in a relationship | |||
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"Its a shame so many married women who are in sexless or sexually unfulfilling marriages on here cannot see what they have in common with married men in the same position. A majority of profiles of women in this situation say "no married men dont want the hassle" or "single guys only" i know its a personal preference but it seems men in this situation have a much harder time meeting anyone" The reason I don’t wish to meet a married/attached man is because the infidelity and rejection I experienced from my ex broke my heart and I wouldn’t like to potentially be a part of a situation that can be deeply hurtful to others. I just wanted to give my perspective. | |||
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"Of course there are a spectrum of different people dealing with physically-dead marriages in different ways... BUT... Not having sex with your partner isn't a moral or an ethical issue. It's ok to not want sex. It's not even in the same ballpark as being disloyal to your life-partner. Let's not pretend you can conflate the two." It’s the refusal to deal with it , address it , or talk about it that is. I would absolutely never expect anyone to go through the motions. However refusing to discuss it and expecting the other person to just accept it is societally much less of a topic of conversation than infidelity despite its grave consequences . | |||
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"Of course there are a spectrum of different people dealing with physically-dead marriages in different ways... BUT... Not having sex with your partner isn't a moral or an ethical issue. It's ok to not want sex. It's not even in the same ballpark as being disloyal to your life-partner. Let's not pretend you can conflate the two. It’s the refusal to deal with it , address it , or talk about it that is. I would absolutely never expect anyone to go through the motions. However refusing to discuss it and expecting the other person to just accept it is societally much less of a topic of conversation than infidelity despite its grave consequences . " Indeed - both could be seen as forms of relationship powerplay, or relationship abuse or emotional neglect. | |||
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"Of course there are a spectrum of different people dealing with physically-dead marriages in different ways... BUT... Not having sex with your partner isn't a moral or an ethical issue. It's ok to not want sex. It's not even in the same ballpark as being disloyal to your life-partner. Let's not pretend you can conflate the two. It’s the refusal to deal with it , address it , or talk about it that is. I would absolutely never expect anyone to go through the motions. However refusing to discuss it and expecting the other person to just accept it is societally much less of a topic of conversation than infidelity despite its grave consequences . " Not wanting to talk about something isn't the same ball park as cheating on them. I guess the key is figuring out WHY they don't want to even talk about it. Is there a medical issue, past trauma, something they are embarrassed to talk about, or is it that they just don't care about their partners needs. That would seem to be the first issue to work on. I know if I thought they were just disregarding my needs as unimportant then I would be leaving... that's not something that someone does if there is real love there. | |||
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"Lots of people just get married to whatever comes along and can have kids with them to fufil their personal want, once the kids are born they loose all interest in the partner because they’ve delivered the goods. Applies to both male and female It’s even more evident in today’s society where people are getting married older at 39/40. Males or females who jump on the last marriage bus. One minute they are single all their life and then when they feel the clock is ticking they’ve found a partner, married and baby in about 2 years. It’s all a bit commercial. " For some women there is a VERY strong urge to become a mother, and time is limited with people getting married older. Fertility drops sharply after 35. That probably drives the inappropriate matches, when a baby is the REAL aim. It sucks for the fathers. | |||
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"Lots of people just get married to whatever comes along and can have kids with them to fufil their personal want, once the kids are born they loose all interest in the partner because they’ve delivered the goods. Applies to both male and female It’s even more evident in today’s society where people are getting married older at 39/40. Males or females who jump on the last marriage bus. One minute they are single all their life and then when they feel the clock is ticking they’ve found a partner, married and baby in about 2 years. It’s all a bit commercial. For some women there is a VERY strong urge to become a mother, and time is limited with people getting married older. Fertility drops sharply after 35. That probably drives the inappropriate matches, when a baby is the REAL aim. It sucks for the fathers." It can be sad for sure. A lot of pressure on the woman obviously because she is the one who has the baby and the clock is limited for her. I see lots of examples as I’m in that age group myself. Knew a girl who had a baby at 39 with a guy after years of failed short term relationships and she magically became pregnant at 39, relationship only lasted less than a year after the baby was born. Bit coincidental If you ask me. But at the same time I think it takes two to tango and both adults so they were responsible for their own actions. | |||
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"Absolutely doesn’t work, hence, I am here lol " The lady that introduced me to swinging and the 3 some fun Etc , Then became Jealous possessive and said I was cheating on her , So it’s all the way the individual looks at it , And I could see her point too | |||
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"Lots of men posting atm. As a former wife, I was so stressed out with a demanding job, young children and a husband who did nothing to help. Eventually I did not want sex with him, it was literally like having a big child in the house. He bored me, I resented doing all the household chores and all the responsibilities placed on me by him. Living with someone is not for me, most men of my age want to be looked after. Manogonmy like that is not for me. I find it intresting that the blame for relationships failing is often placed on men for not helping out with the household chores, which i honestly believe should absolutely be shared. But i have never heard it said that women are expected to mow a lawn, service their own car, or do the tasks that traditionally would have been expected to be done by the "man" of the house. I do of course recognise many women are capable of doing these things but i never hear it brought up in the narritive of why relationships arnt working." He didn't do those things either | |||
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