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"Only at Christmas. Nobody tips me for doing my job and my barber is earning much more than I am. " bah humbug | |||
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"How much would you guys tip in a restaurant if you had good service? As i spend a bit of time in the states each summer and it's always 15% tip over there so ive nearly started doing that here at home also." Rarely more than 10% but it depends on the service and the cost of the meal. The difference with tipping in hospitality is that the staff are all employees whereas my barber and his partner own the business and are both clearing between £800 and £900 per week after tax and overheads. I earn half that so don't have the disposable income to tip them 6 times a year. | |||
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"My last trip to the hairdresser 8 weeks ago cost me £165. I actually considered asking them to have a whipround for me... " I did compliment you on your new hairstyle....was well worth it | |||
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"My last trip to the hairdresser 8 weeks ago cost me £165. I actually considered asking them to have a whipround for me... " Laura cuts mine herself. I feel it offsets the bonkers money she spends getting her hair done | |||
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"Do you tip if your hairdresser is also the business owner? I go to a small place only one lady and she owns the business. " I don't tip my hairdresser - he's the owner of the salon I go to, charges €45 for a wash, cut and dry which takes nearly an hour. I've often felt like walking out during the blow-dry it takes so long, should probably tell him not to bother! If it was someone self employed and no employees, I'd be more likely to tip but then that would also depend on whether they are working from home or renting premises with rates etc... I do tip my son's barber - spending 40 minutes cutting my son's hair and charging €9 - I'd feel rotten not tipping - compare the charge for my haircut in a well established salon as opposed to the local barber...mind you, again I believe that spending 40 minutes on a boy's hair is excessive. A barber who isn't washing and blow-drying should be able to cut shortish hair in 20 minutes... But tipping is always dependant on various factors and circumstances | |||
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"My last trip to the hairdresser 8 weeks ago cost me £165. I actually considered asking them to have a whipround for me... I did compliment you on your new hairstyle....was well worth it " You did and thank you! I'm back tomorrow #prayformypurse | |||
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"I ALWAYS give a tip,hair or beauty...it takes a lot of skills to do this kind of jobs,a lot of training and tools, machineries,scissors,aprons etc are not cheap ...I should know,I work in the industry and my cheapest scissor is 82 euro plus 23% VAT plus many other things...never mind putting UP with really nasty , UNREALISTIC clients at times and the ones that do not like soap and water and the list can go on and on and on...plus ongoing courses on different products and procedures,not cheap ,the money I spent training for over 7+ years would be the equivalent of a deposit On a house ....so yes,I Always give a Tip ,salons or restaurants...for those that never had to work in this type of jobs, have no idea how much patience,passion and dedication it takes to be able to do this kind of job ...never mind ,many times no breaks even for toilet or a coffee,standing all day long etc etc...rant over " My barber has recently introduced booking in for a haircut only via their website Spoke to him as he cut my hair He's booked out everyday,his staff get actual time off the system between clients for coffee and lunch breaks and no queues at closing time They're delighted | |||
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"My last trip to the hairdresser 8 weeks ago cost me £165. I actually considered asking them to have a whipround for me... " ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE STERLING for a haircut!!!! I'd be expecting a happy ended too for that price. Biggest question tho was it worth it expense? | |||
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"My last trip to the hairdresser 8 weeks ago cost me £165. I actually considered asking them to have a whipround for me... ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE STERLING for a haircut!!!! I'd be expecting a happy ended too for that price. Biggest question tho was it worth it expense?" Every penny | |||
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"Ah they make serious money for very little expenditure barbers especially a trim for €15 is 100% profit ..get any of the colours online for €5 n they charge ladies €80 plus " Back of the envelope stuff there....who pays rent,rates,water ESB,wages,supplies,training, | |||
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"Ah they make serious money for very little expenditure barbers especially a trim for €15 is 100% profit ..get any of the colours online for €5 n they charge ladies €80 plus Back of the envelope stuff there....who pays rent,rates,water ESB,wages,supplies,training, " This is the stuff people just don't see when looking at any business. Add in equipment, maintenance, insurance various income taxes. A €15 euro haircut is certainly not 100% profit, far from it. In a 10hr day a single barber needs to cut 20 heads to gross €300 and then pay all the days bills from that, fuck all left! | |||
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"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh" But business owners like this pay them on the double. Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut! | |||
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"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh But business owners like this pay them on the double. Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut!" And ? That's their choice to run the business just like any other business who rent premises if they weren't making money they wouldn't do it or would raise their prices. It doesn't mean people should tip everyone who does a job for them on too on the price of the service provided. Tipping should be a personal choice of the customer and not an expectation of the business. | |||
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"I never tip my hairdresser as he is loaded lol but I always tip the junior, for washing my hair, making me tea etc. they deserve it more as they’re given so little pay for so much work" Its different for women I assume that a few different people could be looking after you in the hairdresser's ( never been inside a ladies hairdresser's) Men only have one person as far as I know | |||
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"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh But business owners like this pay them on the double. Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut! And ? That's their choice to run the business just like any other business who rent premises if they weren't making money they wouldn't do it or would raise their prices. It doesn't mean people should tip everyone who does a job for them on too on the price of the service provided. Tipping should be a personal choice of the customer and not an expectation of the business. " Oh I'm not disagreeing with that at all it was more still responding to the line about the full €15 from a fella's haircut being profit! | |||
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"The one I find most awkward is the guy that brings your suitcase to your hotel room I mean I want to wheel my own case to the room ....thats why it has wheels ffs But no...lets put the case on a big brass trolly and bring it to your room I know how to open a door and a curtain with an ipad ....and even how to make my own coffee now here's a fiver to leave cause I just want you out of my room ....please " Must be staying in 5 star hotels for that treatment!!! | |||
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"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh But business owners like this pay them on the double. Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut! And ? That's their choice to run the business just like any other business who rent premises if they weren't making money they wouldn't do it or would raise their prices. It doesn't mean people should tip everyone who does a job for them on too on the price of the service provided. Tipping should be a personal choice of the customer and not an expectation of the business. Oh I'm not disagreeing with that at all it was more still responding to the line about the full €15 from a fella's haircut being profit!" It must be tho or else it would be more expensive .There is no one going to work their business at a loss if they have any sense that is . | |||
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"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh But business owners like this pay them on the double. Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut! And ? That's their choice to run the business just like any other business who rent premises if they weren't making money they wouldn't do it or would raise their prices. It doesn't mean people should tip everyone who does a job for them on too on the price of the service provided. Tipping should be a personal choice of the customer and not an expectation of the business. Oh I'm not disagreeing with that at all it was more still responding to the line about the full €15 from a fella's haircut being profit! It must be tho or else it would be more expensive .There is no one going to work their business at a loss if they have any sense that is ." They vary I suppose. My haircut actually costs just under €15! They're a quick in and out job though, which I like... there are usually 2-3 seats on the go, but most times I am done in 10 mins. So they're getting 4-6 people in each seat per hour when the going is good which when you're including the tips could be making in or around €70-100 for every hour in each seat. Not bad! | |||
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"Oh we pay those Bill's in all walks of life and dont get tips ..ah I just commenting it's not a bug bearer tbh But business owners like this pay them on the double. Morgtage/rent for their own home + the business. Heating/electricity for own home + business. Insurance for own home + business.. and so on. They are really not taking much for themselves from a €15 haircut! And ? That's their choice to run the business just like any other business who rent premises if they weren't making money they wouldn't do it or would raise their prices. It doesn't mean people should tip everyone who does a job for them on too on the price of the service provided. Tipping should be a personal choice of the customer and not an expectation of the business. " Absolutely, no business should ever expect to or be allowed to use tips as an excuse for poor wages!...A shite mentality that creeps in from the states! | |||
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"My barber has told me what he is making after overheads including insurance, electric, laundry etc. He was a one man business until about 3 years ago and went into partnership with a friend. They have 3 chairs and rent the third out. They have closed for 2 weeks this year already and been on foreign holidays. They have been using the booking apps for 3 years and don't accept walk-ins and every standard appt is 20 mins but most are out in 10. A normal day is 60-70 customers between them at £10 per cut plus extras on top. That's £3500 per five day week and overheads total £1500-£1600 and the rest is profit split 2 ways. " I know you say profit but its wages that you pay yourself so you pay taxes,National Insurance....don't know the rates so haven't a clue what they come out with My barbers is owned by someone that doesn't work there as he has a few shops So I'm tipping someone thats an employee thats carried out a service The only people I'd normally tip would be Barber Waiter or waitress in a restaurant I remember asking in a thread before about tipping a barman which seems to be standard in the states ....I've never done it | |||
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"My barber has told me what he is making after overheads including insurance, electric, laundry etc. He was a one man business until about 3 years ago and went into partnership with a friend. They have 3 chairs and rent the third out. They have closed for 2 weeks this year already and been on foreign holidays. They have been using the booking apps for 3 years and don't accept walk-ins and every standard appt is 20 mins but most are out in 10. A normal day is 60-70 customers between them at £10 per cut plus extras on top. That's £3500 per five day week and overheads total £1500-£1600 and the rest is profit split 2 ways. I know you say profit but its wages that you pay yourself so you pay taxes,National Insurance....don't know the rates so haven't a clue what they come out with My barbers is owned by someone that doesn't work there as he has a few shops So I'm tipping someone thats an employee thats carried out a service The only people I'd normally tip would be Barber Waiter or waitress in a restaurant I remember asking in a thread before about tipping a barman which seems to be standard in the states ....I've never done it " That's what they take home after all overheads and taxes | |||
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"Thats a good wage to pay yourself Wonder if female hairdressers get more with the higher charges to the customer " Coming up to Christmas is the only time my partner makes a decent wage but my god she is broke up earning it. Shoulder trouble, back pains and legs cramping from been on their feet for 12 or more hours a day. And Redhot you're so right, the emotions herself gies through hearing what people tell her. She would never say but there's days where she's an emotional wreck from listening to and helping people. She wouldn't change it for the world as she loves her trade, clients and staff but people's opinions are so far wrong about earnings. Those barbers earning that money are very lucky, more power to them but they're definitely outliers to the norm! And whoever said ye can get colour for a 5er, I can assure you it's more than that for a quality product! There's so much more to it than mixing a bottle of color and slapping it on. Jesus I'm starting to sound like a hairdresser now | |||
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"Thats a good wage to pay yourself Wonder if female hairdressers get more with the higher charges to the customer Coming up to Christmas is the only time my partner makes a decent wage but my god she is broke up earning it. Shoulder trouble, back pains and legs cramping from been on their feet for 12 or more hours a day. And Redhot you're so right, the emotions herself gies through hearing what people tell her. She would never say but there's days where she's an emotional wreck from listening to and helping people. She wouldn't change it for the world as she loves her trade, clients and staff but people's opinions are so far wrong about earnings. Those barbers earning that money are very lucky, more power to them but they're definitely outliers to the norm! And whoever said ye can get colour for a 5er, I can assure you it's more than that for a quality product! There's so much more to it than mixing a bottle of color and slapping it on. Jesus I'm starting to sound like a hairdresser now " You didn't ask ...are you going anywhere nice this year on holiday | |||
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"Thats a good wage to pay yourself Wonder if female hairdressers get more with the higher charges to the customer Coming up to Christmas is the only time my partner makes a decent wage but my god she is broke up earning it. Shoulder trouble, back pains and legs cramping from been on their feet for 12 or more hours a day. And Redhot you're so right, the emotions herself gies through hearing what people tell her. She would never say but there's days where she's an emotional wreck from listening to and helping people. She wouldn't change it for the world as she loves her trade, clients and staff but people's opinions are so far wrong about earnings. Those barbers earning that money are very lucky, more power to them but they're definitely outliers to the norm! And whoever said ye can get colour for a 5er, I can assure you it's more than that for a quality product! There's so much more to it than mixing a bottle of color and slapping it on. Jesus I'm starting to sound like a hairdresser now You didn't ask ...are you going anywhere nice this year on holiday " Hahaha | |||
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"My haircut costs €17 and I leave a twenty In fairness its a good services and you don't really notice €3 every month. £17 for a haircut???!!!!! Blimey ?? I also tip serving staff in a restaurant if I'm eating out after checking to see where the cash goes that I tip....won't eat in a restaurant that uses tips to make up basic wages like The Ivy in Dublin " | |||
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"Literally just met my barber in a coffee shop and told him I had been having a discussion about careers and earnings and running a business. He works a 52 hour week. Closed Monday, 9-7 Tuesday and Wednesday, 9-9 Thursday and Friday and 9-5 Saturday. They rent two floors between the barbers and another business upstairs run by a family member. It's a 3 year old building so maintenance charges aren't extortionate. They have reduced the wage they take each week so they have a healthier business account but are still taking home £700 after tax. One important point though is that they are both in their early 30's and still living at home with parents so apart from the business they don't have any other outgoings. " Hope he paid the tip in the coffee shop | |||
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"Coming from someone who worked 20+ years in the business, tips were always appreciated, and mostly well deserved! Most stylists need not only hairdressing skills but also the skills of a therapist. Regular clients are most stylists bread and butter so there were countless times id give up breaks, start early, finish late etc for a regular client, most times that particular client would be very grateful and leave a tip. Its not taken for granted but always appreciated. " There you are | |||
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"My barber has told me what he is making after overheads including insurance, electric, laundry etc. He was a one man business until about 3 years ago and went into partnership with a friend. They have 3 chairs and rent the third out. They have closed for 2 weeks this year already and been on foreign holidays. They have been using the booking apps for 3 years and don't accept walk-ins and every standard appt is 20 mins but most are out in 10. A normal day is 60-70 customers between them at £10 per cut plus extras on top. That's £3500 per five day week and overheads total £1500-£1600 and the rest is profit split 2 ways. " I’m sure they’d be happy to know your going around blabbering their business and profits etc on a public forum You really need to take a reality check before the reality bites you in the hole If you were mouthing about my business in public you’d be getting a | |||
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"My barber has told me what he is making after overheads including insurance, electric, laundry etc. He was a one man business until about 3 years ago and went into partnership with a friend. They have 3 chairs and rent the third out. They have closed for 2 weeks this year already and been on foreign holidays. They have been using the booking apps for 3 years and don't accept walk-ins and every standard appt is 20 mins but most are out in 10. A normal day is 60-70 customers between them at £10 per cut plus extras on top. That's £3500 per five day week and overheads total £1500-£1600 and the rest is profit split 2 ways. I’m sure they’d be happy to know your going around blabbering their business and profits etc on a public forum You really need to take a reality check before the reality bites you in the hole If you were mouthing about my business in public you’d be getting a " Ah look. A free haircut | |||
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