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"There is a lot written on this from bait and switch (if only you did more housework , then if only x or only y we d have more sex) to reset sex (a temporary increase in frequency which is meaningless in the long term but gives the impression of improvement). " Well housework can be done without involving your partner https://youtu.be/5_uYPBYJ0Ek | |||
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"No. Men use it as well. Sexual violence etc. " Humiliating and degrading a partner, giving attention to others to make a partner insecure, faking making the effort in a relationship to gain access to sex.... | |||
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"No. Men use it as well. Sexual violence etc. Humiliating and degrading a partner, giving attention to others to make a partner insecure, faking making the effort in a relationship to gain access to sex.... " Great examples as well. | |||
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"No men can use it as well as a way to control or humiliate a partner.I had an ex who used it in different ways depending on his mood, the last time he did was the reason I finally got out of the relationship . There's a big difference as well between someone who has gone off sex with a partner for whatever reason and those that use it as way to humiliate and control someone. It's important to know the difference .It's the narccistic ones who use it as a weapon against others and it's not usually just sex they use ." Disordered individuals of either gender will use any means at their disposal to implement their dysfunctional agenda. Civility, decency and respect are not their norm; control, putdowns, humiliation, bullying, smearing, irritability, liability (moodiness) are their normal repertoire of behaviour. Once detected, from my experience, no contact is the best solution. Total eradication from one's life. These damaged people do not change; any promises of change do not materialise. Nastiness is ingrained within their dead souls; narcissists are empty inside. | |||
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"Not sure why sexual violence was brought into a conversation about witholding sex but anyways Yes, I've done it. I know! A man saying No! However, if you have been in a relationship where the same has been dealt to you, I see it as a fair response. Spend 6mths with someone who refuses to respond to your cooking, cleaning, wining n dining them and tentative touches which get rejected. Then suddenly one night they get gripped by The Horn and think you'll be so greatful and needy that you'll submit. F off! Ok, it worked a few times but I've since copped on and it didn't the last time. She wasn't happy, to say the least. A few conversations occurred but still not back to anything like"normal service" and 3mths since any copulation happened. The trials and tribulations of a marriage that happened before Fab I'm hoping for a Christmas bonus though " I never understand how your response to your situation can be perceived as black and white , good or bad , right and wrong, when there are all the complexities and subtleties which no one knows about . I genuinely don’t think that I can judge an online forumite’s situation and what they’re going through . What people do is their business . There are several appropriate responses in my view which you can adopt in 2022 and which one you choose is your business and no one else’s. The one thing i will say is that everything I have read on this suggests that the game changer (sorry) is contempt . Once you have contempt in a relationship there may be no going back | |||
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"No. Men use it as well. Sexual violence etc. Humiliating and degrading a partner, giving attention to others to make a partner insecure, faking making the effort in a relationship to gain access to sex.... " 100% agree | |||
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"Humiliating and degrading a partner, giving attention to others to make a partner insecure, faking making the effort in a relationship to gain access to sex.... 100% agree " Unfortunately this is so true | |||
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"Not sure why sexual violence was brought into a conversation about witholding sex but anyways Yes, I've done it. I know! A man saying No! However, if you have been in a relationship where the same has been dealt to you, I see it as a fair response. Spend 6mths with someone who refuses to respond to your cooking, cleaning, wining n dining them and tentative touches which get rejected. Then suddenly one night they get gripped by The Horn and think you'll be so greatful and needy that you'll submit. F off! Ok, it worked a few times but I've since copped on and it didn't the last time. She wasn't happy, to say the least. A few conversations occurred but still not back to anything like"normal service" and 3mths since any copulation happened. The trials and tribulations of a marriage that happened before Fab I'm hoping for a Christmas bonus though " The original post asked was sex used to control/punish the other person. This would fall under those especially ones in abusive situations | |||
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"Men can and do withold sex from their partner just as much as a woman can. It is a universal thing and not just possible for one gender to do. It is usually used as a way of control. I will admit to doing it within my marriage but for me it was never about wanting to control him it was the simple fact of once the person has been violent towards you there was no way I wanted him near me let alone anything else." I agree with this it's the mental, emotional and financial aswell as physical or sexual. When this is involved it's a huge turn off for sex. | |||
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"All I can say is I've never done it to women but it's been done to me in a couple of past relationships. It's no fun, I'd prefer if they had just said what the problem was instead of the mind games. " Have been on the receiving end of this in a past relationship and believe me its not nice. Its a control thing so i finally got the courage to end it..best thing i ever did. | |||
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