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By *asual777 OP   Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

I was having a debate with a neighbour over the weekend about this . He said that he would feel cheated if he saw a performer who hadn’t written their own material . I was of the view that for many , as long as one is entertained , it doesn’t hugely matter .

What do you think ? Would it be different if it was a comedian for example as opposed to a band ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Elvis never wrote his songs as far as I know

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By *asual777 OP   Man
over a year ago

i travel all over


"Elvis never wrote his songs as far as I know"

He didn’t and was phenomenal

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

A comedian has to write their own material or else it doesnt work on stage in my opinion

A band can sing covers and the crowd will still like them ....Sure look at Oasis ....A Beatles covers band

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Plenty of commedians don't write all their own material. Even standup shows. They have line writers. I remember hearing a Frankie Boyle on a podcast recently and he was a writer for Jimmy Carr.

I don't feel that bands/singers HAVE to sing their own songs, but I definitely think more of those who do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't care who wrote the material, it's the performance that nails it, or doesn't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very interesting thread and a hard one to comment on. I think though that you definitely need talent whether you write or not write your own material. In my opinion though if you do write your own stuff it definitely shows how talented you are but like say Brendan O Carroll you can run out of steam as we’ve seen with Mrs Browns boys. In my opinion he’s only flogging a dead horse at this stage.

Sorry for the long winded reply

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By *on Draper2.0Man
over a year ago

Maynooth

Have you ever seen the Australian doors or Australian pink floyd tribute bands? That's the end of that discussion.

A great author doesn't always make a great actor. The same goes for music.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Maybe it makes the difference between an entertainer and an artist, but the lines are blurred.

Anyhow both can be equally entertaining or not.

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By *asual777 OP   Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

I think there are different grades though . Tribute bands bottom of the ladder I guess but you can perform original material delivered for the first time written by someone else in an elite way

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By *on Draper2.0Man
over a year ago

Maynooth


"I think there are different grades though . Tribute bands bottom of the ladder I guess but you can perform original material delivered for the first time written by someone else in an elite way"

What about band who release cover versions of old songs? Sometimes they are better than the original. Jimi Hendrix and U2 both covered all along the watchtower and did it better than Dylan.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

I think a credible cover really needs to bring something new and creative to someone else's song in order to have real merit.

The merit is still shared with the songwriter though

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By *asual777 OP   Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

Jeff Buckley an obvious example although always on my mind was voted the best cover I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Authentic talent seems like such a pretentious phrase.

There are plenty people with a talent for singing that can't write songs and visa versa.

Are any of the prestigious opera singers prolific writers.

Do people complain at the ballet that the person hasn't actually crafted the show or that their favorite actor didn't write the script.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I think something was shite does that nullify the authenticity?

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By *asual777 OP   Man
over a year ago

i travel all over


"Authentic talent seems like such a pretentious phrase.

There are plenty people with a talent for singing that can't write songs and visa versa.

Are any of the prestigious opera singers prolific writers.

Do people complain at the ballet that the person hasn't actually crafted the show or that their favorite actor didn't write the script."

Pretentious? Moi ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Authentic talent seems like such a pretentious phrase.

There are plenty people with a talent for singing that can't write songs and visa versa.

Are any of the prestigious opera singers prolific writers.

Do people complain at the ballet that the person hasn't actually crafted the show or that their favorite actor didn't write the script.

Pretentious? Moi ? "

Was it not your friend who said it?

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By *asual777 OP   Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

I don’t know if he used that exact phrase but the idea of not writing your own stuff was abhorrent to him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t know if he used that exact phrase but the idea of not writing your own stuff was abhorrent to him "

Ya I guess the idea is what is pretentious not the tern itself

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

As mentioned above, Frankie Boyle writes stuff for Jimmy Carr and Bob Monkhouse wrote jokes for a host of top comedians back in the day. Some are talented writers, some are talented performers. A few are both but all are talented.

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By *ome_wild_girlWoman
over a year ago

Antrim Town

Any orchestra is essentially a cover band

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By *lameBoyMan
over a year ago

Enfield & Dublin

I do all my own original stunts . They mostly work out

Just sayin.

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By *asual777 OP   Man
over a year ago

i travel all over


"I do all my own original stunts . They mostly work out

Just sayin. "

But do you design them ? Or do you have a stunt creator ?

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By *lameBoyMan
over a year ago

Enfield & Dublin


"I do all my own original stunts . They mostly work out

Just sayin.

But do you design them ? Or do you have a stunt creator ?"

Quite honestly, shit just happens and I roll with it the best I can. Some spectacular results and always a surprise

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By *ohnFKMan
over a year ago

Where the Streets Have No Name

I suppose performance is an art in itself...

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By *ohnFKMan
over a year ago

Where the Streets Have No Name


"A comedian has to write their own material or else it doesnt work on stage in my opinion

A band can sing covers and the crowd will still like them ....Sure look at Oasis ....A Beatles covers band "

Now, now Bogman;..don't be looking back in anger

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By *asual777 OP   Man
over a year ago

i travel all over


"I suppose performance is an art in itself...

"

I agree

I also wanted to post in a calm thread

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