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"Why was this moved to the virus forum? The OP was referring to the recent set set of restrictions bought in by the Irish government yesterday. Should be back in the Ireland forum" That’s explains why couldn’t find this in our news. Our secondary school has already returned to masks for all moment around school. Only time it is removed is in class when seated or sitting to eat lunch | |||
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"Why was this moved to the virus forum? The OP was referring to the recent set set of restrictions bought in by the Irish government yesterday. Should be back in the Ireland forum" Is it not about the virus? | |||
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"Our kids been wearing them no problem in public places the last 2 years. Mad how many people get triggered being asked to do something that might prevent the spread of a virus during a pandemic. " | |||
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"From another point of view, our daughter is a teacher in a primary school it's going to be difficult enough to enforce this on small kids too" I have a lot of sympathy for all the teachers and principals having to deal with this too | |||
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"I think it's ridiculous " and that's a polite way of saying it | |||
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"Masks are ridiculous anyway. But in schools it's completely moronic. I'm primary schools it's beyond contemptible. Typical Irish pandemic overreaction" Can you explain why you think it’s ridiculous, moronic, beyond contemptible and an over reaction? Thanks. | |||
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"Face masks are utterly useless. It's incredible how much weight we are putting in them being effective. All because they're visible. People have to start saying no to this continuous nonsense." Speaking on continuous nonsense, where's the evidence to say that facemasks are useless? | |||
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"Why was this moved to the virus forum? The OP was referring to the recent set set of restrictions bought in by the Irish government yesterday. Should be back in the Ireland forum That’s explains why couldn’t find this in our news. Our secondary school has already returned to masks for all moment around school. Only time it is removed is in class when seated or sitting to eat lunch " Yes but whats so silly is when they or anyone takes them off and has it is passing it there and then so really they are defeating the purpose. A picture comes to mind here(person with a mask fully on with a hole in just the mouth area) to eat and actually wait they are breathing and can still pass it lol. | |||
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"The poor kids i as adult spent over 3 hours in a class today and my hands were freezing typing. Seriously this is absolutely craziness the strangest of rules i just don't get it, then for pubs and clubs and eating in restaurants is totally ok. The schools are taking it to far i think but i know they are just following the guidelines where as most places are not really. Buses are i was freezing on it this morning aswell hats and gloves on. It's confusing different rules everywhere. " nphet is just recommending for the kids to wear the masks.. its the education board who is demanding children wear them.. and I don't think they have any right to do so. Anyway, I've told my child that if she needs to take the mask off at any time in school that she can go right ahead and do so without getting into trouble. I've told the principal too that I've said for my child not to wear it if she can't breathe or if it's uncomfortable. End of the day it's not actually set in law that they have to wear them. | |||
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"I'll put some perspective on this because after the shite I saw on social media yesterday its pissed me off a bit. If putting a thin piece of cloth on your child's face for a few hours per day while their in school during a pandemic is the most of your worries aren't you the lucky one. Kids fleeing across oceans to escape being bombed, kids living in fucking tents in this country, kids getting their only hot meal of the day from soup kitchens in this country, imagine being their parents. Aren't you lucky the only thing you have to complain about is a mask. If this offends you I really couldn't give a crap. " ..totally agree n least anyone forget over 40 people lost their lives to covid in this country last wk ..so abit of common sense from parents n the kids will be fine .I have 4 of them n no issues whatsoever with masks | |||
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"The reason for introducing masks in schools are the high infection figures in the 5 to 12 year olds (12144 over the last 2 weeks, which is 19% of all cases or almost a fifth). Kids bring home what they catch in school and transmit it to their parents. This is reflected in the group with the second highest rate, the 35 to 45 year olds. While most children will show very little symptoms, it might be a different story for their parents. Anyhow elephant in the room is not the mask wearing it's that nearly 2 years in the government has done nothing to minimize transmission in schools ie installing air filters. Instead windows have to be opened every 45 minutes and the kids and teachers are freezing the whole day. So they might fetch cold, flus and worse.. " I offered to buy a HEPA filtration system for my youngest class I was the 4th parent to offer and they turned us down due to dept regulations | |||
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"HEPA filters aren't going to make a difference either. We've lost our minds." And this scientific remark is based on what? I don't know which filter or air purifier is the best as I'm no expert, however there's enough research out there that support the effectiveness of air filters. | |||
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"Masks won't make a difference Vaccines won't make a difference. Air filtration wont make a difference Social distance won't make a difference Isolating won't make a difference What will make a difference? The lizard people. " So are you Tom Cruise or John Travolta | |||
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"Masks won't make a difference Vaccines won't make a difference. Air filtration wont make a difference Social distance won't make a difference Isolating won't make a difference " Correct. It's endemic. | |||
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"It a load of bolix. If a fart can get through my boxers and my jeans... I don't think a flimsy piece of material is gonna stop a virus. Beside it wasn't so long ago they made out kids can't catch it.... So what changed there mind ?" then let me ask...would you like someone farting in your face bare cheeked?...or through boxers and jeans?....yeah...thought so. as to what changed.....the virus has. i understand the want to mitigate vectors where they can. | |||
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"It a load of bolix. If a fart can get through my boxers and my jeans... I don't think a flimsy piece of material is gonna stop a virus. Beside it wasn't so long ago they made out kids can't catch it.... So what changed there mind ?" Fair enough,but let's say you wear pants and you stand near someone and you piss yourself, does the other person get soaked also or does the pants takes the wetness! Just another way to look at it. | |||
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"It a load of bolix. If a fart can get through my boxers and my jeans... I don't think a flimsy piece of material is gonna stop a virus. Beside it wasn't so long ago they made out kids can't catch it.... So what changed there mind ?" Scientific data | |||
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"It a load of bolix. If a fart can get through my boxers and my jeans... I don't think a flimsy piece of material is gonna stop a virus. Beside it wasn't so long ago they made out kids can't catch it.... So what changed there mind ?" It's called science. It changes due to a thing called discovery. | |||
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"It a load of bolix. If a fart can get through my boxers and my jeans... I don't think a flimsy piece of material is gonna stop a virus. Beside it wasn't so long ago they made out kids can't catch it.... So what changed there mind ?" It's this simple, and yet... | |||
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"Masks won't make a difference Vaccines won't make a difference. Air filtration wont make a difference Social distance won't make a difference Isolating won't make a difference What will make a difference? The lizard people. So are you Tom Cruise or John Travolta " I'm both. Like face/off. I've the face of Tom cruise but the mind of John Travolta. | |||
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"As we all seen on recent weeks high number of cases. And the vast majority of them were vaccinated and wore mask... Only to catch it again ... " as far as i remember. we where told from the start it wont stop you catching it. but help teach your body how to fight it. not get as sick as you would have..ok..granted a liberal use of the word vaccine. | |||
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"Kids need facial expressions to communicate. No economic impact when kids are targeted by restrictions, that’s why they’re being scapegoated. We reckon they’ve suffered enough for long enough without targeting them exclusively in this round of restrictions." Absolutely correct. | |||
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"As we all seen on recent weeks high number of cases. And the vast majority of them were vaccinated and wore mask... Only to catch it again ... " Yeah I’m not sure where ye got that info from, if I’d to guess it was probably a Facebook status Also this notion that because something only reduces the risk, it’s not worth doing Of course you should do all you can to minimise risk | |||
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"As we all seen on recent weeks high number of cases. And the vast majority of them were vaccinated and wore mask... Only to catch it again ... " And this from the person who says everyone else is missing the point. | |||
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"The poor kids i as adult spent over 3 hours in a class today and my hands were freezing typing. Seriously this is absolutely craziness the strangest of rules i just don't get it, then for pubs and clubs and eating in restaurants is totally ok. The schools are taking it to far i think but i know they are just following the guidelines where as most places are not really. Buses are i was freezing on it this morning aswell hats and gloves on. It's confusing different rules everywhere. nphet is just recommending for the kids to wear the masks.. its the education board who is demanding children wear them.. and I don't think they have any right to do so. Anyway, I've told my child that if she needs to take the mask off at any time in school that she can go right ahead and do so without getting into trouble. I've told the principal too that I've said for my child not to wear it if she can't breathe or if it's uncomfortable. End of the day it's not actually set in law that they have to wear them." No right… my princess… she can go right ahead. Yawn | |||
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"From another point of view, our daughter is a teacher in a primary school it's going to be difficult enough to enforce this on small kids too I have a lot of sympathy for all the teachers and principals having to deal with this too" No sympathy for teachers or government employees who do not suffer financially like the rest of us when having to restrict movements or the like. They should have to apply for illness/pandemic payments too. Although the government did throw the schools under the bus when they changed the close contact rule in schools. As for masks , if a child is comfortable and can function with the mask on(wear a mask). If they can't (dont wear a mask) I child I know with a hearing impairment has had awful trouble understanding people over the pandemic due to not being able to lip read. His situation has now become way worse | |||
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"As we all seen on recent weeks high number of cases. And the vast majority of them were vaccinated and wore mask... Only to catch it again ... as far as i remember. we where told from the start it wont stop you catching it. but help teach your body how to fight it. not get as sick as you would have..ok..granted a liberal use of the word vaccine. " You were vaccinated against the 2019-20 northern hemisphere winter virus. It's no longer relevant. If you're immunised you won't develop any symptoms. I don't know how they've gotten away with this claim. It's a massive cop out. | |||
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"I am totally in agreement with both masks and vaccinations actually for over 9s. I have observed Multiple extended family situations of 9 year old plus kids catching it in school , yet their younger siblings and their vaccinated parents not catching it. I think the main issue with masks is communication . There ll need to be a clear plan about supporting quietly spoken kids or those with speech impediments. There will be many legacy issues to this pandemic in relation to loneliness for example and we can’t be facilitating a process whereby less able kids are allowed to drift further away . But make no mistake , older primary school kids are currently rampant vectors " NO!!! I am sorry but vaccines for kids that young that is still in trial no fucking way | |||
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"Face masks are utterly useless. It's incredible how much weight we are putting in them being effective. All because they're visible. People have to start saying no to this continuous nonsense. Speaking on continuous nonsense, where's the evidence to say that facemasks are useless? " on the disclosure print of the packaging . These masks are catching the virus as good as a chicken wire catches mosquitos . If someone really wants protection he would need to look at a research lab to see what gear is required . Certainly not these flimsy piece of mouth muzzle . | |||
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"My daughters school keeps every window wide open in all of the classes, she told me she has to wear her coat because she is freezing.. Any other schools do this?" All of them as far as I know In fairness not as bad now as it's going to be after Christmas since it's normally colder then | |||
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"My daughters school keeps every window wide open in all of the classes, she told me she has to wear her coat because she is freezing.. Any other schools do this?" Many, it's a guideline to create a cross flow of air, some classrooms under 15 degrees. Its not good. The her to layer up with leggings or base layer. | |||
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"Face masks are utterly useless. It's incredible how much weight we are putting in them being effective. All because they're visible. People have to start saying no to this continuous nonsense. Speaking on continuous nonsense, where's the evidence to say that facemasks are useless? on the disclosure print of the packaging . These masks are catching the virus as good as a chicken wire catches mosquitos . If someone really wants protection he would need to look at a research lab to see what gear is required . Certainly not these flimsy piece of mouth muzzle . " Its a shame you weren't around pre covid to give this great adivxe about masks being useless to every surgeon, doctor and nurse in the world. | |||
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"My daughters school keeps every window wide open in all of the classes, she told me she has to wear her coat because she is freezing.. Any other schools do this?" yep even last year it was happening for my daughter windows open and coats on two pairs of socks | |||
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"The reason for introducing masks in schools are the high infection figures in the 5 to 12 year olds (12144 over the last 2 weeks, which is 19% of all cases or almost a fifth). Kids bring home what they catch in school and transmit it to their parents. This is reflected in the group with the second highest rate, the 35 to 45 year olds. While most children will show very little symptoms, it might be a different story for their parents. Anyhow elephant in the room is not the mask wearing it's that nearly 2 years in the government has done nothing to minimize transmission in schools ie installing air filters. Instead windows have to be opened every 45 minutes and the kids and teachers are freezing the whole day. So they might fetch cold, flus and worse.. I offered to buy a HEPA filtration system for my youngest class I was the 4th parent to offer and they turned us down due to dept regulations " That is shocking. In situations like this, you'd think they would bend the rules a bit and let yourself and others buy the filtration systems. Fair play to you though for offering to do so, nice act to do | |||
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"So with the open window strategy at schools I wonder how many winters of saving heating costs would be needed to make up the investment of air filters. " Just turn off the heating, gotta think of the planet, they can wear coats like we did | |||
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"The reason for introducing masks in schools are the high infection figures in the 5 to 12 year olds (12144 over the last 2 weeks, which is 19% of all cases or almost a fifth). Kids bring home what they catch in school and transmit it to their parents. This is reflected in the group with the second highest rate, the 35 to 45 year olds. While most children will show very little symptoms, it might be a different story for their parents. Anyhow elephant in the room is not the mask wearing it's that nearly 2 years in the government has done nothing to minimize transmission in schools ie installing air filters. Instead windows have to be opened every 45 minutes and the kids and teachers are freezing the whole day. So they might fetch cold, flus and worse.. I offered to buy a HEPA filtration system for my youngest class I was the 4th parent to offer and they turned us down due to dept regulations That is shocking. In situations like this, you'd think they would bend the rules a bit and let yourself and others buy the filtration systems. Fair play to you though for offering to do so, nice act to do " Probably something to do with insurance Sure parents pay for most things incl the heating anyway | |||
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"So with the open window strategy at schools I wonder how many winters of saving heating costs would be needed to make up the investment of air filters. Just turn off the heating, gotta think of the planet, they can wear coats like we did" None of our kids are allowed wear them in class. Actually having murder at the minute with the playschool the youngest goes to because she's picked up multiple colds and coughs in the last few months over the windows being open | |||
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"So with the open window strategy at schools I wonder how many winters of saving heating costs would be needed to make up the investment of air filters. Just turn off the heating, gotta think of the planet, they can wear coats like we did" Isn't climate change wonderful, the excuse possibilities are endless! | |||
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"So with the open window strategy at schools I wonder how many winters of saving heating costs would be needed to make up the investment of air filters. Just turn off the heating, gotta think of the planet, they can wear coats like we did None of our kids are allowed wear them in class. Actually having murder at the minute with the playschool the youngest goes to because she's picked up multiple colds and coughs in the last few months over the windows being open" You don't catch a cold from an open window, you catch it from other people, organised daycare is basically a repository of secondhand snot | |||
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"So with the open window strategy at schools I wonder how many winters of saving heating costs would be needed to make up the investment of air filters. Just turn off the heating, gotta think of the planet, they can wear coats like we did None of our kids are allowed wear them in class. Actually having murder at the minute with the playschool the youngest goes to because she's picked up multiple colds and coughs in the last few months over the windows being open" That's just outrageous!!! What's the logic behind that? I'd turn everything upside down if I were confronted with that sort of nonsense. Organise a protest in front of the school, local press and Joe Duffy and the school will adapt quickly... | |||
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"So with the open window strategy at schools I wonder how many winters of saving heating costs would be needed to make up the investment of air filters. Just turn off the heating, gotta think of the planet, they can wear coats like we did None of our kids are allowed wear them in class. Actually having murder at the minute with the playschool the youngest goes to because she's picked up multiple colds and coughs in the last few months over the windows being open That's just outrageous!!! What's the logic behind that? I'd turn everything upside down if I were confronted with that sort of nonsense. Organise a protest in front of the school, local press and Joe Duffy and the school will adapt quickly..." Er no because we aren't snowflakes | |||
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"So with the open window strategy at schools I wonder how many winters of saving heating costs would be needed to make up the investment of air filters. Just turn off the heating, gotta think of the planet, they can wear coats like we did None of our kids are allowed wear them in class. Actually having murder at the minute with the playschool the youngest goes to because she's picked up multiple colds and coughs in the last few months over the windows being open That's just outrageous!!! What's the logic behind that? I'd turn everything upside down if I were confronted with that sort of nonsense. Organise a protest in front of the school, local press and Joe Duffy and the school will adapt quickly... Er no because we aren't snowflakes " Nothing to do with snowflakes, children shouldn't feeeze because of some ridiculous uniform or clothes policies. Has protesting reached the level of being automatically associated with snowflakes, loonies, lizards and extremists? | |||
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"So with the open window strategy at schools I wonder how many winters of saving heating costs would be needed to make up the investment of air filters. Just turn off the heating, gotta think of the planet, they can wear coats like we did None of our kids are allowed wear them in class. Actually having murder at the minute with the playschool the youngest goes to because she's picked up multiple colds and coughs in the last few months over the windows being open That's just outrageous!!! What's the logic behind that? I'd turn everything upside down if I were confronted with that sort of nonsense. Organise a protest in front of the school, local press and Joe Duffy and the school will adapt quickly... Er no because we aren't snowflakes Nothing to do with snowflakes, children shouldn't feeeze because of some ridiculous uniform or clothes policies. Has protesting reached the level of being automatically associated with snowflakes, loonies, lizards and extremists?" Why protest for something simple like that? Devalue the meaning of a protest | |||
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"So with the open window strategy at schools I wonder how many winters of saving heating costs would be needed to make up the investment of air filters. Just turn off the heating, gotta think of the planet, they can wear coats like we did None of our kids are allowed wear them in class. Actually having murder at the minute with the playschool the youngest goes to because she's picked up multiple colds and coughs in the last few months over the windows being open That's just outrageous!!! What's the logic behind that? I'd turn everything upside down if I were confronted with that sort of nonsense. Organise a protest in front of the school, local press and Joe Duffy and the school will adapt quickly... Er no because we aren't snowflakes Nothing to do with snowflakes, children shouldn't feeeze because of some ridiculous uniform or clothes policies. Has protesting reached the level of being automatically associated with snowflakes, loonies, lizards and extremists? Why protest for something simple like that? Devalue the meaning of a protest " Well maybe I was bit too hefty there and protest might be too strong of a means to start with - just can't stand policy stupidity. However joining up with other parents to change policies might be the way to go if the school doesn't reason. | |||
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"So with the open window strategy at schools I wonder how many winters of saving heating costs would be needed to make up the investment of air filters. Just turn off the heating, gotta think of the planet, they can wear coats like we did None of our kids are allowed wear them in class. Actually having murder at the minute with the playschool the youngest goes to because she's picked up multiple colds and coughs in the last few months over the windows being open That's just outrageous!!! What's the logic behind that? I'd turn everything upside down if I were confronted with that sort of nonsense. Organise a protest in front of the school, local press and Joe Duffy and the school will adapt quickly... Er no because we aren't snowflakes Nothing to do with snowflakes, children shouldn't feeeze because of some ridiculous uniform or clothes policies. Has protesting reached the level of being automatically associated with snowflakes, loonies, lizards and extremists? Why protest for something simple like that? Devalue the meaning of a protest Well maybe I was bit too hefty there and protest might be too strong of a means to start with - just can't stand policy stupidity. However joining up with other parents to change policies might be the way to go if the school doesn't reason. " Already in motion | |||
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"Took great pleasure in calling an anti vaxxer a stupid prick outside my sons school today Teachers on the footpath stopping them with their child abuse banners so they stayed in the middle of the road giving out a free newspaper calling RTE the virus Wankers.....the kids are doing ok mostly without that nonsense " Good man bog. Call them out for what they are. | |||
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"Took great pleasure in calling an anti vaxxer a stupid prick outside my sons school today Teachers on the footpath stopping them with their child abuse banners so they stayed in the middle of the road giving out a free newspaper calling RTE the virus Wankers.....the kids are doing ok mostly without that nonsense " I know of a primary school that has strict procedures in place for drop off and pick up. Some parents help the teachers every morning and afternoon. Two parents who never help out decided a couple of weeks ago to jump the queue and barge into the school. They then proceeded to verbally abuse another parent who asked them to wait. As a result they are no longer allowed on the premises and are not allowed to even drive on to the school grounds. They have to ring from the gate and their children are brought out to them. | |||
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