FabSwingers.com forum: Blind meets

By *ed just Red OP Woman
over a year ago

Dublin City

Ok so this is a new thing for me.

I’ve had 2 social meets where I didn’t know what they looked like before we had coffee. Both were gorgeous and just as sexy as I’d hoped. Equally, they didn’t know what I looked like before we met and they weren’t disappointed either (phew!!)

I’ve also had 2 meet meets (after coffee meets) when I had no idea what their cock was like (ie small / huge etc..

It’s a new thing for me. I’ve never actually been disappointed (probably the opposite actually).

What are your thoughts? Would you meet someone without knowing what they looked like, or shag someone without knowing what to expect??

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By *unLovingCriminalMan
over a year ago

Somewhere

"Ok so this is a new thing for me.

I’ve also had 2 meet meets (after coffee meets) when I had no idea what their cock was like (ie small / huge etc..

It’s a new thing for me. I’ve never actually been disappointed (probably the opposite actually).

What are your thoughts? Would you meet someone without knowing what they looked like, or shag someone without knowing what to expect?? "

I guess I would if there was Alot of chemistry and craic beforehand. That said, in this day and age if people can't provide a picture of their face at some stage I guess I would find it a bit strange, especially if they have more graphic pictures available for viewing.

Not to say there's a negative reason behind it, but it just seems a little odd not to especially given how many time wasters are around.

All in all I think I'd take the chance, I always have a social first so the worst that would happen is a coffee alone

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

In 5 years here I probably have about 50 veries spread over a few profiles.

Only 7 of those have involved play meets and of those only one was a blind meet.

There are many factors that determine who I will or won't meet and while providing a face pic isn't a deal-breaker it usually happens anyway after chatting for a while.

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By *ensualnFunCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

That’s mostly the only way we meet.

We used to share face pics but we don’t do face pics anymore due to a bad experience (stalker) he knew what I looked like I didn’t know what he looked like as he never sent one in return. Scary…

Tbh I’ve had a connection with someone before. I had seen pics, great sexy chat, etc but when we met absolutely nothing.

Same way I met someone by chance that I had rejected due to face pic but when we met we clicked.

So now I don’t ask for face pics and I don’t give one either… I go with no more expectation than having a nice social meet and if there’s more… than it’s even more exciting! If not, hopefully I just have a nice chat with a nice man.

It’s working brilliantly for us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No id never do a blind meet not even a coffee. Id be afraid firstly it was someone i knew, secondly, my spare time is precious, i need physical attraction so i need to see some face pics before i meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That’s mostly the only way we meet.

Tbh I’ve had a connection with someone before. I had seen pics, great sexy chat, etc but when we met absolutely nothing.

Same way I met someone by chance that I had rejected due to face pic but when we met we clicked.

It’s working brilliantly for us

There is nothing worse than when face to face the spark isnt there yet had a great connection chatting. It happened me recently and it was a really shitty experience, he made it particularly unpleasant.

Next!

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By *affa31Woman
over a year ago

Galway

I wouldn’t do a blind (no face pic) meet but I have had play meets where I hadn’t seen their cock. I don’t think I’ve ever been disappointed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had a few blind coffee socials at the start of my Fab career. One I told him I wasn't feeling the attraction he said it was a sex site there was no need for attraction to fuck. The second same thing I said I wasn't feeling the attraction. He still suggested a blowjob in his car though as he'd come so far for coffee (20 mins ffs) and this was Fab after all.

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By *indenMan
over a year ago

Naas which is South West of Dublin

Sounds like the 90’s all over again….

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By *oreThanOnceMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"Ok so this is a new thing for me.

I’ve also had 2 meet meets (after coffee meets) when I had no idea what their cock was like (ie small / huge etc..

It’s a new thing for me. I’ve never actually been disappointed (probably the opposite actually).

What are your thoughts? Would you meet someone without knowing what they looked like, or shag someone without knowing what to expect?? "

Very unusual approach Red, when most want a face pic with the first message!

All women so far wanted to see at least the face (always a deal breaker, even for a coffee meet).

As for seeing the rest of the "goods" beforehand, not too many insisted on it or condition a play meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have never met anyone blind. And I would always send a face pic first. I think it's only manners if your a guy. Anwyay id want the person to have some attraction before meeting me.

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By *asual777Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

I love the whole element of surprise . Main issue is connection as we interact and if that’s good face can wait for the 1st and genitals for the second date if that happens . Unless neither can wait that long

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By *ed just Red OP Woman
over a year ago

Dublin City

I’m not advocating it AT ALL. I’m just intrigued.

The two men I met without getting a face photo first were men I felt an enormous click with while chatting. Both men knew that that the click would be everything and it followed through immediately upon meeting them, like I knew instantly.

However, there have been meets where I’ve had face pics and I’ve been attracted to them and there’s been no click upon meeting. It’s nothing to do with looks.

I literally know within seconds if there’s a click.

It’s not that these guys don’t have face pics, they just prefer to meet without sharing one.

As for the sharing of more intimate pics… they didn’t get photos of me either. I could have had a hoop like a punched lasagne.

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By *ofusplusCouple
over a year ago

Limerick

We don't ask for face pics anymore as it's difficult to gauge attraction from facial features alone. So we normally meet people blind (for coffee), or meet them at socials/parties and gauge attraction in that way

If people want to see our ugly mugs then we'll send a pic no problem after they've sent us theirs.

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By *ofusplusCouple
over a year ago

Limerick

The nether regions are (pun) largely irrelevant, the spark is where it's at

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

You're half blind any way Red....all your meetings are blind

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By *aint_or_SinnerWoman
over a year ago

South County Dublin

I've had 2 socials in my time on Fab without the sharing of face pics.

Not something I'd usually do but hey, sometimes it's great to take a chance.

First chap was handsome but no spark.

Second guy I now have a couple's profile with

As for nether regions...hey, as long as he is a he

...I'll see where chemistry leads

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By *ed just Red OP Woman
over a year ago

Dublin City

"You're half blind any way Red....all your meetings are blind "

This is sadly true.

" As for nether regions...hey, as long as he is a he ...I'll see where chemistry leads "
I’m not a fan of huge cocks…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sure with all the filters and flattering angles etc does anyone even look the same in person as they do online…..

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By *affa31Woman
over a year ago

Galway

It’s not necessarily an attraction I look for when exchanging a face pic, it’s that I don’t know them. Galway is very small!

Also, I can’t be dealing with turning up for a coffee meet and not knowing who I’m looking for.

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By *aint_or_SinnerWoman
over a year ago

South County Dublin

"You're half blind any way Red....all your meetings are blind

This is sadly true.

As for nether regions...hey, as long as he is a he ...I'll see where chemistry leads I’m not a fan of huge cocks…

Right, if you have hard boundaries in place where size is concerned, then I can obviously understand the need to know basis! Nobody wants to be in pain having penetrative sex with someone too big...or whatever your personal reason is, of course...

And that's where we all differ, which is what makes the world exciting

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By *ligolad321Man
over a year ago

Donegal

No problem with meeting blind socially, For me if I click with someone's personality, everything about that person tends to become beautiful.

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By *ind PaddyMan
over a year ago

South County Dublin

Only had one meet so far, we chatted exchange photos met and had a good chat and laugh. So if any ladles want to met for a chat let me know, I have no problem sending photo

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I've had a few blind meets some there was no spark and others there definitely was.I've never asked for a face pic off anyone on here but I find if we chat for a while it usually happens that we send one at some point.Just because I may not fancy anyone immediately from a face pic anyhow does not mean I wouldn't meet them for a coffee.If I get on well with someone then looks can be only a small part of what makes them attractive to me.

As for their dick size I've never asked about their size beforehand.If they have pics on their profile then you have an idea but it's not something that would be a factor in me meeting someone unless they think their size is their USP then it can be off putting when they go on and on about it.

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By *adhatter and coCouple
over a year ago

Middle of mayo n peaceful tranquility

I met himself as a blind meet 5 years ago . We clicked through messages . No photos just had to try and spot each other in dunnes stores with a description of ourselves . I did actually spot him first and walked out but then felt sorry for him and messaged him an hour later . We met up again and the rest is history

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok so this is a new thing for me.

I’ve also had 2 meet meets (after coffee meets) when I had no idea what their cock was like (ie small / huge etc..

It’s a new thing for me. I’ve never actually been disappointed (probably the opposite actually).

What are your thoughts? Would you meet someone without knowing what they looked like, or shag someone without knowing what to expect?? "

I have had blind meets but I'm not a fan at all! I go for face over body anyway, so yeah I'd rather see a face pic before meeting. Attraction is really important to me and I don't feel I'd have chemistry with someone I didn't find atttacive! And I don't mind sending face pics to people either. If I get rejected, I rejected

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By *on Draper2.0Man
over a year ago

Maynooth

Well ladies, I applaud you all. Its great to see that there is a spirit like this still in the world. As we have seen here it doesn't always pay off but that's not the point. The point is that you were willing to give a guy an opportunity to impress you in person without having to impress you with his looks or big diggler first. Each of you is a really beautiful, confident woman who I'm sure is not short of offers and if those guys wasted their opportunity then its their fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dose going on cam not solve that problem. Are whatsapp also Had a meet up from a lady a month ago from on another site met in the street, the minute she set eyes on me I knew this was a mistake .no interest from her what's so ever went for a drink showed her my pics from site she said I was older .what she expected from a 63xyears of age guy I just don't know .she got the hump and left .I'd already paid for the hotel room. So no shag and slept alone .

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By *adhatter and coCouple
over a year ago

Middle of mayo n peaceful tranquility

"Dose going on cam not solve that problem. Are whatsapp also Had a meet up from a lady a month ago from on another site met in the street, the minute she set eyes on me I knew this was a mistake .no interest from her what's so ever went for a drink showed her my pics from site she said I was older .what she expected from a 63xyears of age guy I just don't know .she got the hump and left .I'd already paid for the hotel room. So no shag and slept alone ."

This is what Puts us off meeting single guys . The assumption that drinks will lead to sex .

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I don't cam I hate camming of someone won't meet without camming they can move on.

First meets for me is always just a social anyhow with no expectations.If someone I meet has pre booked a hotel room for that meet well that's on them as I make it clear it's only for a chat and to see how we get on .I have met the odd guy who thought they should at least get a bj they were left dissapointed.

No one both male or female should feel like they have to carry on a meet if they don't want to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

poor you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Could somebody please call a wambulamce we have a urgent case here man left alone in hotel room didn't get a shag...

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By *unLovingCriminalMan
over a year ago

Somewhere

You said you met her from another site?

So no matter how Fab-ulous your intentions were it sounds like maybe you expected something more suited to this site, whereas she may have been on another page as to the nature of the meet?

I always do socials before anything whether it's here or another site so I wouldn't assume a meet as success from a drink, or vice versa judge the fact you slept alone as a fail.

I sleep alone nearly every night and I've done ok...

P.s nobody is obliged to sleep together just because they meet, regardless of how honourable your intentions may have been.

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By *ed just Red OP Woman
over a year ago

Dublin City

What?? So you’d never met and you were expecting a shag? Wtf?

This is why I’m so explicit in ALWAYS having a social before a meet, and I’ve only ever done that twice. And it was SPECIFICALLY only for coffee. I’ve only ever broke that rule once and we had cammed and chatted for months because he lived abroad, but it was most definitely NOT a complete surprise.

This is a massive red flag to me. You hadn’t even swapped photos and you were expecting a shag. OMG. NO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like a regular date?

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By *indenMan
over a year ago

Naas which is South West of Dublin

"I met himself as a blind meet 5 years ago . We clicked through messages . No photos just had to try and spot each other in dunnes stores with a description of ourselves . I did actually spot him first and walked out but then felt sorry for him and messaged him an hour later . We met up again and the rest is history

This is why I’d probably prefer to send a face pic before meeting, firstly so I’d be recognised and secondly to give whoever I was meeting the chance to make an excuse not to go ahead with it after seeing a picture my ugly mush instead of them going to the bother of actually going to the meeting but then running away after seeing me, leaving me to to cool my coffee with the softly falling tears of rejection…..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive definitely had blind social meets.

I can think of only 2 social meets which didnt go anywhere and both were blind as it happened.

Ive definitely had blind play meets where the online connection wss really good but the reality failed to live up. Awkward.

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By *aint_or_SinnerWoman
over a year ago

South County Dublin

Ah, would you go away outta that... meeting you would just make anyone feel better about their own ugly mug

We'd be crying together

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes met ON AN OTHER SITE.had been chatting for about two weeks and had expressed are desires and wants for each ,she knew we,Ed be ending up for sex in a hotel room.for fun and pleasure. Had even agreed a PRICE,? had even discussed positions. Up to this had seen my pics and was very happy me been older.so shag and hotel room weren't a surprise. I still see here pop up on the site but we don't talk .surprise to me no jump.

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By *unLovingCriminalMan
over a year ago

Somewhere

"Yes met ON AN OTHER SITE.had been chatting for about two weeks and had expressed are desires and wants for each ,she knew we,Ed be ending up for sex in a hotel room.for fun and pleasure. Had even agreed a PRICE,? had even discussed positions. Up to this had seen my pics and was very happy me been older.so shag and hotel room weren't a surprise. I still see here pop up on the site but we don't talk .surprise to me no jump."

Agreed a price for what exactly? I hope you mean the hotel

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By *uinn79Man
over a year ago

the west

That’s the best approach here fair play

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

PS,my profile states a meet and greet over a meal are a drink to see what spark are connection there might be between us. And at another time a hotel room for fun and pleasure. Sounds fair to me.

On this site I stand by that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t think I’d mind to be honest but once there was a bit of a spark first. In this day and age there’s no reason not to put at least one pic up

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By *unLovingCriminalMan
over a year ago

Somewhere

"PS,my profile states a meet and greet over a meal are a drink to see what spark are connection there might be between us. And at another time a hotel room for fun and pleasure. Sounds fair to me.

On this site I stand by that "

What I understood from that comment (which is probably wrong):

1. A meet and greet over a meal = a drink.

2. You stand by: meet and greet at a different time to hotel, yet you prepared for both on one day as you stated.

Hmm I don't get it, either way happy fabbing hope things work out!

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By *aint_or_SinnerWoman
over a year ago

South County Dublin

Price agreed for her "services" or the hotel room? Not that I'm judging - each to their own!

But it seems that not only those women meeting for sex for fun and enjoyment have the right to change their mind on who they share their body with

- who'd have thunk?!

A social without expectation can only be beaten by a social where the fireworks go off and it leads to a hotel booking there and then or fun elsewhere

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By *ol_ieMan
over a year ago

Dublin west

I always do a coffee meet before anything more and some of these I have done blind but it's only coffee.

Have had pics sent to me in advance but lots of times it turns out the pics are old so the person doesn't look like the pic but again as it's only coffee it doesn't matter.

I never have expectations of more and a lot I meet for coffee it never goes any further but I like to put a face to the name.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"PS,my profile states a meet and greet over a meal are a drink to see what spark are connection there might be between us. And at another time a hotel room for fun and pleasure. Sounds fair to me.

On this site I stand by that

What I understood from that comment (which is probably wrong):

1. A meet and greet over a meal = a drink.

2. You stand by: meet and greet at a different time to hotel, yet you prepared for both on one day as you stated.

Hmm I don't get it, either way happy fabbing hope things work out!

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What don't you get .there two posts a previous and a present. Are you choose to only read one.

Hey op on the strength of your profile pic I'd meet you in an instant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Price agreed for her "services" or the hotel room? Not that I'm judging - each to their own!

But it seems that not only those women meeting for sex for fun and enjoyment have the right to change their mind on who they share their body with

- who'd have thunk?!

A social without expectation can only be beaten by a social where the fireworks go off and it leads to a hotel booking there and then or fun elsewhere

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.yes you are judging, why else make the comment. Of course she had the right to change her mind and did and walked but if there was hesitation on her part before the meet she didn't let on .allowed me commit to extra expenses and didn't follow through.

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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago

Dublin

I've no issue with blind meets. I don't think there anymore successful than non-blind meets. Attraction is far more than physical looks. It is also something you can only really get a feel for in person.

First meet I had here was blind and we both booked a hotel and said we'd see how we'd get on. Was a great success.

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

Price agreed for her "services" or the hotel room? Not that I'm judging - each to their own!

But it seems that not only those women meeting for sex for fun and enjoyment have the right to change their mind on who they share their body with

- who'd have thunk?!

A social without expectation can only be beaten by a social where the fireworks go off and it leads to a hotel booking there and then or fun elsewhere

.yes you are judging, why else make the comment. Of course she had the right to change her mind and did and walked but if there was hesitation on her part before the meet she didn't let on .allowed me commit to extra expenses and didn't follow through. "

So just because you booked a room you expected her to fuck you even tho she wasn't attracted to you.

Everyone has a right to say no and to walk away at any point.

If you pre book a room.before you even meet someone then sorry but that's on you.

It's also why social meets first cuts out these situations because no matter how much you chat on here you don't know what anyone is like properly until you actually meet them .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No id never do a blind meet not even a coffee. Id be afraid firstly it was someone i knew, secondly, my spare time is precious, i need physical attraction so i need to see some face pics before i meet. "

You look gorgeous Redhott. Would be very happy to chat n send as many pics as you like to ensure a meet

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By *s LollyWoman
over a year ago

The pub then supermacs ...

Ive met two i think before without knowing what they looked like but that was just a coffee for a verfie from a thread on here....If i was meeting someone id have to have a face pic first and always send one id never rock up not knowing who im meeting there would always have to be an attraction there

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By *aint_or_SinnerWoman
over a year ago

South County Dublin

Price agreed for her "services" or the hotel room? Not that I'm judging - each to their own!

But it seems that not only those women meeting for sex for fun and enjoyment have the right to change their mind on who they share their body with

- who'd have thunk?!

A social without expectation can only be beaten by a social where the fireworks go off and it leads to a hotel booking there and then or fun elsewhere

yes you are judging, why else make the comment. Of course she had the right to change her mind and did and walked but if there was hesitation on her part before the meet she didn't let on .allowed me commit to extra expenses and didn't follow through. "

Right, I am judging

...not looking for clarification on what part of the plan a price was agreed...at all, at all!

I couldn't give a flying f**k whether you are paying for services or whether someone else offers them in return for payment (always in the hope these people aren't exploited along the way, is all).

The point was, it doesn't matter who you are, man or woman, escort or meeting simply for enjoyment, anyone is permitted to change their mind on whether they want to have sex or not.

She "allowed you to commit to extra expenses"? Are you not an adult, capable of making your own decisions and choices, aware of a world of liars, cons and thieves? She had to give you permission? Really? Or were you just dead cert that because you had agreed on payment and positions etc that there was no way she'd back peddle?!

Your posts come across as quite bitter, just my opinion. This in turn, makes the scenario you describe as though you have been conned. I'd suggest trying to look at the amusing side of it, letting it go for what it was and looking to learn from it...in other words, organise a social first, without incurring any expenses because anyone can change their minds, even an escort!

Wishing you the best on your journey here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally i’m very choosey , i will only shag a woman if she has a pulse

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By *indenMan
over a year ago

Naas which is South West of Dublin

Ah, would you go away outta that... meeting you would just make anyone feel better about their own ugly mug

We'd be crying together

I know, that’s what I’m afraid of, they’d take one look at me from a distance and think, thanks God I don’t look that bad and leg it thinking they dodged a bullet there…..

I’d be worried you’d be crying thinking “I should have went to specsavers”…..

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By *aint_or_SinnerWoman
over a year ago

South County Dublin

"Personally i’m very choosey , i will only shag a woman if she has a pulse

Phew, the graves are safe

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By *aint_or_SinnerWoman
over a year ago

South County Dublin

Ah, would you go away outta that... meeting you would just make anyone feel better about their own ugly mug

We'd be crying together

I know, that’s what I’m afraid of, they’d take one look at me from a distance and think, thanks God I don’t look that bad and leg it thinking they dodged a bullet there…..

I’d be worried you’d be crying thinking “I should have went to specsavers”…..

But I did, I did

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By *ipsandthighsMan
over a year ago

dublin

It reminds me of a story, I travelled to Galway in my late teens to meet a woman for fun all I had seen of her was a close up of her lips, what could possibly go wrong ey, plan was to meet in hotel room, 5 hours travel up and back for 10 minutes in the room and no nothing happened, I gave her the money for room and asked her to enjoy it and try get someone else.

Lesson learned!

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By *s LollyWoman
over a year ago

The pub then supermacs ...

"It reminds me of a story, I travelled to Galway in my late teens to meet a woman for fun all I had seen of her was a close up of her lips, what could possibly go wrong ey, plan was to meet in hotel room, 5 hours travel up and back for 10 minutes in the room and no nothing happened, I gave her the money for room and asked her to enjoy it and try get someone else.

Lesson learned!"

Jeeze long ass trip

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By *indenMan
over a year ago

Naas which is South West of Dublin

Ah, would you go away outta that... meeting you would just make anyone feel better about their own ugly mug

We'd be crying together

I know, that’s what I’m afraid of, they’d take one look at me from a distance and think, thanks God I don’t look that bad and leg it thinking they dodged a bullet there…..

I’d be worried you’d be crying thinking “I should have went to specsavers”…..

But I did, I did

You saw me and legged it?….

I knew it…

I’ll bet you weren’t mysterious abducted by aliens that day either, were you?

Oh the humanity of it……

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will you please read the two posts .the before and the After. Maybe snippets of the second should have been in the first .man meets lady .a very tall lady (I'm 6',she 6',4" wow and she was very tall ,eyes near popped out of my head when first I saw her.and I love long slender sexy leggie wemon bit like you op. Man talks to lady not from fab ,lady talks to man ,talk continues and man agrees to an arrangement for lady to talk dirty to man for two weeks, explicit chat Afterwards man makes an other arrangement with lady to sleep together in a hotel room for 6xhours company. If lady want to sleep in bed with man till late morning she can do so but no new arrangement. At all times Pryor in conversation lady was very happy with man's age ,man's face and appearance, at no time did she let on Pryor to meetup that she was dissatisfied with man's appearance and arrangement. Hotel room was booked Meetup time arrived. Lady didn't like man ,man know nothing was going to happen after meet .lady walked. I suspose the moral of this story is nothing is agreed till every thing is agreed. And the lady is always allowed to change her mind

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By *indenMan
over a year ago

Naas which is South West of Dublin

"Will you please read the two posts .the before and the After. Maybe snippets of the second should have been in the first .man meets lady .a very tall lady (I'm 6',she 6',4" wow and she was very tall ,eyes near popped out of my head when first I saw her.and I love long slender sexy leggie wemon bit like you op. Man talks to lady not from fab ,lady talks to man ,talk continues and man agrees to an arrangement for lady to talk dirty to man for two weeks, explicit chat Afterwards man makes an other arrangement with lady to sleep together in a hotel room for 6xhours company. If lady want to sleep in bed with man till late morning she can do so but no new arrangement. At all times Pryor in conversation lady was very happy with man's age ,man's face and appearance, at no time did she let on Pryor to meetup that she was dissatisfied with man's appearance and arrangement. Hotel room was booked Meetup time arrived. Lady didn't like man ,man know nothing was going to happen after meet .lady walked. I suspose the moral of this story is nothing is agreed till every thing is agreed. And the lady is always allowed to change her mind "

That’s a lot of information to try to absorb right before the Toy Show……

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By *aint_or_SinnerWoman
over a year ago

South County Dublin

I did read both of your posts. And the way they were explained (as I understood and a number of others gathering by their reaction) was that you met for the first time in person after having chatted virtually for 2 weeks on a different site and on the same first meet had a hotel booked expecting sex...not as you explain here, that you met up in person for what was obviously a social and then continued chatting for 2 weeks before you met up again and both agreed to get down and dirty.

If she wasn't into you, she should have been straight with you... simple as. Poor show on her behalf! I hope you managed to enjoy the hotel room on your own even after having been let down...

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