FabSwingers.com forum: Ireland vs Uk

By *eebaw OP Man
over a year ago

So recently chatting a couple whom is from the uk and big into swinging. They were very open about what there into etc and they remarked that the Irish is not as open and even on here there are not as many Irish people on sites like these like in the uk. Is this to do with the old ways of religion etc or ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ireland would knock the shite out of the UK

4th round knockout, no need for a rematch!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

4.9 million people in Ireland and 67 million in UK might explain the difference a little.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cause small population and people are so concerned with what other people are doing, like mind would consenting adults be having sex

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By *dfabMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne

Everyone in Ireland is only about 4 steps removed from knowing someone your prospective swinging partner is. Not necessarily related to but knows someone they know. That makes swinging in Ireland much more difficult. Along with the gossiping as mentioned above.

Hence we are automatically more careful whom and when and wher we get busy.

My opinion anyway.

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

Ireland is a sexually repressed society; as Ray D'Arcy said on RTE, "The catholic church has really f##£££ up this country".

Ireland is also a tiny place; everyone knows everyone else's business.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

It's nobody elses business what Ireland puts on its profile.

The UK should focus on its own journey and not worry about what others are doing.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Ireland are on 1 generation out of total subjugation by the church. It will take time.

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By *DsissyMan
over a year ago

thurles

Funny had the same conversation with my meet last night

We both form outside of Ireland and saying how everyone wants to play but is scared /oppressed/super super discreet that nothing happens

And yes population size the church are factors

Shame beautiful sexy people

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

The church has never been an influence on me and what I do .The main thing that's stops from meeting others to swing etc is the fact that I actually don't want to fuck them and I would think that's the reason a lot of people don't meet on some others on here .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The church has never been an influence on me and what I do .The main thing that's stops from meeting others to swing etc is the fact that I actually don't want to fuck them and I would think that's the reason a lot of people don't meet on some others on here ."

Amen to that

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By *ome_wild_girlWoman
over a year ago

Antrim Town

Amen to that

This

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By *oserMan
over a year ago

where the wild roses grow

Amen to that

This

This is just silly behaviour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have spent hundreds of years trying to get rid of UK from our country why the fxxk would we want to copy what they do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have spent hundreds of years trying to get rid of UK from our country why the fxxk would we want to copy what they do."

For the extra sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have spent hundreds of years trying to get rid of UK from our country why the fxxk would we want to copy what they do.

For the extra sex

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

I don't think you're the subject of this though as you're a swinger so the exception rather than the rule.

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By *scouple07Couple
over a year ago

louth, Ireland

Don't think anything was mentioned about copying UK or politics in original question

Like others have already said its more the fact the size of Ireland and everyone knows everyone else's business

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

If you're told for generations that your sexuality is shameful, and only for procreation in marrriage then what the hell can you expect!?

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I don't think you're the subject of this though as you're a swinger so the exception rather than the rule. "

I'm just the same as anyone else on here as far as I can see. I'm definitely not an exception to what the the op said .

And people on here have been making comments like this a lot recently about how conservative and less adventurous the Irish are and as tho people actually having standards on who they meet and shag should be frowned upon. It's rubbish as far as I can see people will meet those that they want to meet .

And others believing the smoke being blown up their arses on meets about how much better they are than others is the truth. When in fact it is just what a a fair few say on meets in the hope of getting another meet and usually is disingenuous.But it is used as a way to put others down as people prefer to believe it is the truth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It always strikes me that people who need to declare loudly how liberated they are in comparison with others are in fact the exact opposite

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.

I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.

Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.

It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

It's like a bog lovers forum asking why more people don't like dogs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.

I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.

Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.

It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street. "

Does anyone have actual per capita numbers for both countries?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.

I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.

Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.

It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street. "

"Holding back" by whose standards though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The funny thing is that it's the UK tabloid press that it utterly obsessed with "dishing the dirt" on celebs....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it not a bit pretentious to have to find a reason why more people don't swing or have they same sex lives/desires as those of us on here.

As if we are living the one correct way?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it not a bit pretentious to have to find a reason why more people don't swing or have they same sex lives/desires as those of us on here.

As if we are living the one correct way?"

Exactly, so much for open-mindedness

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.

I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.

Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.

It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.

"Holding back" by whose standards though? "

Holding back how they would choose to behave themselves if they felt able to

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.

I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.

Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.

It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.

Does anyone have actual per capita numbers for both countries?"

No I wish we did. Having lived and experienced swinging in the UK and visited the clubs it certainly feels like they have a larger proportion of swingers than we do. No stats tho unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just float my own boat. Couldn't care less about anything that doesn't concern me. Live and let live

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.

I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.

Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.

It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.

"Holding back" by whose standards though?

Holding back how they would choose to behave themselves if they felt able to"

But how do you know they would choose your lifestyle just because you think it's the only way?

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.

I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.

Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.

It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.

"Holding back" by whose standards though?

Holding back how they would choose to behave themselves if they felt able to

But how do you know they would choose your lifestyle just because you think it's the only way?"

Where did I say it's the only way? It's clearly not for most people. This will always be a minority lifestyle. The question is why less people here choose it than across the water as a proportion of population.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.

I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.

Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.

It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.

"Holding back" by whose standards though?

Holding back how they would choose to behave themselves if they felt able to

But how do you know they would choose your lifestyle just because you think it's the only way?

It's not necessarily because people don't "feel able to"

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Why do you think it is?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do you think it is?"

Perhaps they don't feel the need to shout it from the rooftops

I was non-monogamous, as are a hell of a lot of people, long before fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You also seem to assume that swinging or non-monagamy are indicative of a healthy psyche and sexual identity, that's a bit of a leap given a lot of the behaviour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.

I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.

Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.

It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.

"Holding back" by whose standards though?

Holding back how they would choose to behave themselves if they felt able to

But how do you know they would choose your lifestyle just because you think it's the only way?

It was a general comment answering the OP as much as you tbh.

We have no idea how much less people choose it in comparison though.

You gave our history with religion as the reason, but with all out history with the conservatism of the church we have in many ways as Liberal if not more so a society than many aspects of the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ireland is a sexually repressed society; as Ray D'Arcy said on RTE, "The catholic church has really f##£££ up this country".

Ireland is also a tiny place; everyone knows everyone else's business.

Ray who ???

D'Arcy?? That gobshite

Well if D'Arcy said it then it must be true

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Apparently it's the way we are brought up and don't teach our kids to have manners. That's bound to have a profound effect on their swinging prowess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not saying our history with the church isn't a possible factor for some but there could be any number of reasons. And I'd still like to see the actual numbers before making any massive assumptions they have 12times the population thats alot of extra swingers

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"You also seem to assume that swinging or non-monagamy are indicative of a healthy psyche and sexual identity, that's a bit of a leap given a lot of the behaviour"

I wouldn't take it that far. I think swinging and nonmonogamy are a sign of a lack of repression, rather than a sign of a healthy psyche.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You also seem to assume that swinging or non-monagamy are indicative of a healthy psyche and sexual identity, that's a bit of a leap given a lot of the behaviour

I wouldn't take it that far. I think swinging and nonmonogamy are a sign of a lack of repression, rather than a sign of a healthy psyche."

People can also be pressured and coerced into non-monagamy

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

"It always strikes me that people who need to declare loudly how liberated they are in comparison with others are in fact the exact opposite

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"You also seem to assume that swinging or non-monagamy are indicative of a healthy psyche and sexual identity, that's a bit of a leap given a lot of the behaviour

I wouldn't take it that far. I think swinging and nonmonogamy are a sign of a lack of repression, rather than a sign of a healthy psyche.

People can also be pressured and coerced into non-monagamy"

Do you feel that in the UK more people are coerced into nonmonogamy? And that is the answer to what the OP asked?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You also seem to assume that swinging or non-monagamy are indicative of a healthy psyche and sexual identity, that's a bit of a leap given a lot of the behaviour

I wouldn't take it that far. I think swinging and nonmonogamy are a sign of a lack of repression, rather than a sign of a healthy psyche.

People can also be pressured and coerced into non-monagamy

Do you feel that in the UK more people are coerced into nonmonogamy? And that is the answer to what the OP asked?"

I have no idea, that's the whole point. A lot of people simply adapt to the norm in their society, others pride themselves on being "liberated" from the norm and fail to see the irony of this.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Ok so your answer to OP is "Don't know". Of course that's fine. But its also fine to suggest what I believe is a likely answer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok so your answer to OP is "Don't know". Of course that's fine. But its also fine to suggest what I believe is a likely answer. "

It's also fine to argue the sweeping assumptions involved in such answers

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Ok so your answer to OP is "Don't know". Of course that's fine. But its also fine to suggest what I believe is a likely answer.

It's also fine to argue the sweeping assumptions involved in such answers"

It's hard to answer sweeping questions without sweeping answers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok so your answer to OP is "Don't know". Of course that's fine. But its also fine to suggest what I believe is a likely answer.

It's also fine to argue the sweeping assumptions involved in such answers

It's hard to answer sweeping questions without sweeping answers"

Hence why it's fine to argue them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ireland is a sexually repressed society; as Ray D'Arcy said on RTE, "The catholic church has really f##£££ up this country".

Ireland is also a tiny place; everyone knows everyone else's business.

Quote anyone, anyone but BuzzKill D'Arcy, we beg of you

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