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"So I attended my first party on Friday night and stepped very far out of my comfort zone, from been flogged, stripping off in front of people I barely know and been tied up, getting naked with 4 other beautiful women to take photos. I'm on/off fab 4 years and I have discovered a lot about myself, I've definitely come out of my shell ( still a bit to go) but I'm thankful to the people I've met, the ones that I now consider good friends, the ones that have been nasty which has thought me that's not my fault or issue its theirs. I spoke to a guy who met me at a social over 2 yrs ago and told me at a recent social that the difference in me since than is unreal. I know its a swingers site but I think a lot of people miss the point, a lot join here thinking it's dial a ride, but its also a great community with great people, normal everyday people who enjoy sex. So I want to say thanks to you all, even the twats, life is too short to be nasty and mean if you don't like someone that's OK, stay in your own lane. Live your life the way you want to live it, not the way you think you should because of others expectations or the way other people tell you, don't get to your deathbed and regret stuff. None of us are getting out of here alive. Grab it by the short and curlys " Great for you DD and sounds like it was a wild one . I am very keen to discuss a similar topic with a slightly different angle in the coming days, as I had been thinking through how being on here changes us , if at all. Hope you have a good rest | |||
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"So I attended my first party on Friday night and stepped very far out of my comfort zone, from been flogged, stripping off in front of people I barely know and been tied up, getting naked with 4 other beautiful women to take photos. I'm on/off fab 4 years and I have discovered a lot about myself, I've definitely come out of my shell ( still a bit to go) but I'm thankful to the people I've met, the ones that I now consider good friends, the ones that have been nasty which has thought me that's not my fault or issue its theirs. I spoke to a guy who met me at a social over 2 yrs ago and told me at a recent social that the difference in me since than is unreal. I know its a swingers site but I think a lot of people miss the point, a lot join here thinking it's dial a ride, but its also a great community with great people, normal everyday people who enjoy sex. So I want to say thanks to you all, even the twats, life is too short to be nasty and mean if you don't like someone that's OK, stay in your own lane. Live your life the way you want to live it, not the way you think you should because of others expectations or the way other people tell you, don't get to your deathbed and regret stuff. None of us are getting out of here alive. Grab it by the short and curlys " Sounds like a hot night!!! | |||
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"Fab hasn't taught me anything about myself that i didn't already know. I have learned though only lately, not to dismiss all unverified mens profiles. I have discovered a hidden gem that im excited about meeting. Fab has also taught me that are an awful lot of crazies out there. " | |||
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"Always nice to hear a positive experience from attending events. Like u said there are some twats but the decent people always make this site worth while. Always better to find out ur comfort zones with people that create a non pressure situation.Enjoy going to the socials aswell and meeting poeple from the forums. Let the keyboard warriors off and enjoy ur own experiences.. Xxxx " | |||
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"Fab hasn't taught me anything about myself that i didn't already know. I have learned though only lately, not to dismiss all unverified mens profiles. I have discovered a hidden gem that im excited about meeting. Fab has also taught me that are an awful lot of crazies out there. " absolutely love this!! I don't dismiss the unverified either and have found some amazing ones!! ahh missy im excited reading this | |||
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"Fab hasn't taught me anything about myself that i didn't already know. I have learned though only lately, not to dismiss all unverified mens profiles. I have discovered a hidden gem that im excited about meeting. Fab has also taught me that are an awful lot of crazies out there. absolutely love this!! I don't dismiss the unverified either and have found some amazing ones!! ahh missy im excited reading this " We are both excited so x | |||
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"Fab hasn't taught me anything about myself that i didn't already know. I have learned though only lately, not to dismiss all unverified mens profiles. I have discovered a hidden gem that im excited about meeting. Fab has also taught me that are an awful lot of crazies out there. absolutely love this!! I don't dismiss the unverified either and have found some amazing ones!! ahh missy im excited reading this We are both excited so x" ohh im gonna need a proper girlie update, you know where I am gorgeous | |||
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"Great post DD and I'm so glad you are really enjoying your fab journey now and finding the confidence to be yourself and explore your interests. There will always be people on here who will want to ruin others journeys and experience on here. Why they do it I don't know or understand, it should be a place where people are more open minded but quite often it's not .All anyone can do is learn how to carry on and not allow others who don't have their best interests at heart to influence their experiences. I've grown in some confidence since joining here and met people who I consider to be true friends there are even some who I haven't met yet but I still consider to be friends.Fab to me is not just about sex the social side is important as well . But like I said everyone has their own journey and it would be boring if we all looked for the same thing on here. " as always bo you have the perfect words x | |||
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"Great post DD and I'm so glad you are really enjoying your fab journey now and finding the confidence to be yourself and explore your interests. There will always be people on here who will want to ruin others journeys and experience on here. Why they do it I don't know or understand, it should be a place where people are more open minded but quite often it's not .All anyone can do is learn how to carry on and not allow others who don't have their best interests at heart to influence their experiences. I've grown in some confidence since joining here and met people who I consider to be true friends there are even some who I haven't met yet but I still consider to be friends.Fab to me is not just about sex the social side is important as well . But like I said everyone has their own journey and it would be boring if we all looked for the same thing on here. " Exactly this | |||
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"What ive learned from here is i don't give a flying fuck what anyone thinks of me on here..I try things at my own pace and the nasty messages and people who send them are all in the asshole pool with the rest " | |||
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"Woo hoo DD you legend Glad you had a good time xx My learning hasnt been as massive, and to be honest I havent changed a lot. Ive discovered I like to express myself visually through photography as well as words, and I have discovered that I can fancy ginger toned men who I never felt attracted to before. " Fancying ginger men ? That’s it ? | |||
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"Well done DD on stepping out of your comfort zone. It's never easy and doesn't always end on a positive note but it seems like yours has. What I've learned from fab is to continue as I see fit and not take advice from those with ulterior motives. The positive responses I receive in the forums and private messages are a result of not bending to suit others. I have learned that it's more than possible to be respectful and mannerly without resorting to sychophancy and lip service. I have also learned that not everything is as it appears. While some are genuinely and rightly nonchalant towards the site in general, it is eye opening to see how many are selectively myopic to what is said or asked and by whom in the forums. Discretion is preached but not practiced. " That last sentence!!!!!! nail on head | |||
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"What is it you have learned about yourself? What is it you are into now Vs pre fab? " Its not about what I'm into now or what I wasn't before fab, I always loved sex, but what I have learnt is I'm allowed be happy,that I don't have to follow the normal or do what people think I should do, yes I may be fat but some guys will actually fancy me as I am, I'm a good person with a huge heart and I'm never going to dull myself diwn just to fit in and be liked by everyone. That having sex isnt just about the guy been happy or enjoying it that I can enjoy it and ask for what I want. | |||
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"What is it you have learned about yourself? What is it you are into now Vs pre fab? Its not about what I'm into now or what I wasn't before fab, I always loved sex, but what I have learnt is I'm allowed be happy,that I don't have to follow the normal or do what people think I should do, yes I may be fat but some guys will actually fancy me as I am, I'm a good person with a huge heart and I'm never going to dull myself diwn just to fit in and be liked by everyone. That having sex isnt just about the guy been happy or enjoying it that I can enjoy it and ask for what I want. " I know this sounds so cliché but you must love and like yourself first before you let any one else in be in fab or vanilla, sounds like you are on the right path x | |||
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"What is it you have learned about yourself? What is it you are into now Vs pre fab? Its not about what I'm into now or what I wasn't before fab, I always loved sex, but what I have learnt is I'm allowed be happy,that I don't have to follow the normal or do what people think I should do, yes I may be fat but some guys will actually fancy me as I am, I'm a good person with a huge heart and I'm never going to dull myself diwn just to fit in and be liked by everyone. That having sex isnt just about the guy been happy or enjoying it that I can enjoy it and ask for what I want. I know this sounds so cliché but you must love and like yourself first before you let any one else in be in fab or vanilla, sounds like you are on the right path x " Only took me 40 off years to realise it | |||
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"What is it you have learned about yourself? What is it you are into now Vs pre fab? Its not about what I'm into now or what I wasn't before fab, I always loved sex, but what I have learnt is I'm allowed be happy,that I don't have to follow the normal or do what people think I should do, yes I may be fat but some guys will actually fancy me as I am, I'm a good person with a huge heart and I'm never going to dull myself diwn just to fit in and be liked by everyone. That having sex isnt just about the guy been happy or enjoying it that I can enjoy it and ask for what I want. I know this sounds so cliché but you must love and like yourself first before you let any one else in be in fab or vanilla, sounds like you are on the right path x Only took me 40 off years to realise it " absolutely no harm in that xx | |||
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"What is it you have learned about yourself? What is it you are into now Vs pre fab? Its not about what I'm into now or what I wasn't before fab, I always loved sex, but what I have learnt is I'm allowed be happy,that I don't have to follow the normal or do what people think I should do, yes I may be fat but some guys will actually fancy me as I am, I'm a good person with a huge heart and I'm never going to dull myself diwn just to fit in and be liked by everyone. That having sex isnt just about the guy been happy or enjoying it that I can enjoy it and ask for what I want. " Chuffed to bits for You, always thought You were one of the "good ones" | |||
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"What is it you have learned about yourself? What is it you are into now Vs pre fab? Its not about what I'm into now or what I wasn't before fab, I always loved sex, but what I have learnt is I'm allowed be happy,that I don't have to follow the normal or do what people think I should do, yes I may be fat but some guys will actually fancy me as I am, I'm a good person with a huge heart and I'm never going to dull myself diwn just to fit in and be liked by everyone. That having sex isnt just about the guy been happy or enjoying it that I can enjoy it and ask for what I want. " Your great company and had me chuckling over coffee lol...I knew you'd enjoy it. ?? go you Great pic(s) | |||
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"So I attended my first party on Friday night and stepped very far out of my comfort zone, from been flogged, stripping off in front of people I barely know and been tied up, getting naked with 4 other beautiful women to take photos. I'm on/off fab 4 years and I have discovered a lot about myself, I've definitely come out of my shell ( still a bit to go) but I'm thankful to the people I've met, the ones that I now consider good friends, the ones that have been nasty which has thought me that's not my fault or issue its theirs. I spoke to a guy who met me at a social over 2 yrs ago and told me at a recent social that the difference in me since than is unreal. I know its a swingers site but I think a lot of people miss the point, a lot join here thinking it's dial a ride, but its also a great community with great people, normal everyday people who enjoy sex. So I want to say thanks to you all, even the twats, life is too short to be nasty and mean if you don't like someone that's OK, stay in your own lane. Live your life the way you want to live it, not the way you think you should because of others expectations or the way other people tell you, don't get to your deathbed and regret stuff. None of us are getting out of here alive. Grab it by the short and curlys Sounds like a hot night!!!" Oh it definitely was xx | |||
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"What is it you have learned about yourself? What is it you are into now Vs pre fab? Its not about what I'm into now or what I wasn't before fab, I always loved sex, but what I have learnt is I'm allowed be happy,that I don't have to follow the normal or do what people think I should do, yes I may be fat but some guys will actually fancy me as I am, I'm a good person with a huge heart and I'm never going to dull myself diwn just to fit in and be liked by everyone. That having sex isnt just about the guy been happy or enjoying it that I can enjoy it and ask for what I want. " Well said | |||
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"I admire and envy you for being able to do that It's something I wish I was able to do. Thank you for sharing your story x" Its taken a bit of time but what's the worst that can happen , life is for living now by the middle of week I'll probably be thinking holy god what am I doing lol | |||
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"I admire and envy you for being able to do that It's something I wish I was able to do. Thank you for sharing your story x Its taken a bit of time but what's the worst that can happen , life is for living now by the middle of week I'll probably be thinking holy god what am I doing lol" I think we're leading parallel lives. I feel the same way sometimes but I picture myself on my deathbed and the things I am most likely to regret. Being on Fab and attending hot parties will most certainly NOT be one of them. Enjoy the ride DD. Mrs | |||
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"So I attended my first party on Friday night and stepped very far out of my comfort zone, from been flogged, stripping off in front of people I barely know and been tied up, getting naked with 4 other beautiful women to take photos. I'm on/off fab 4 years and I have discovered a lot about myself, I've definitely come out of my shell ( still a bit to go) but I'm thankful to the people I've met, the ones that I now consider good friends, the ones that have been nasty which has thought me that's not my fault or issue its theirs. I spoke to a guy who met me at a social over 2 yrs ago and told me at a recent social that the difference in me since than is unreal. I know its a swingers site but I think a lot of people miss the point, a lot join here thinking it's dial a ride, but its also a great community with great people, normal everyday people who enjoy sex. So I want to say thanks to you all, even the twats, life is too short to be nasty and mean if you don't like someone that's OK, stay in your own lane. Live your life the way you want to live it, not the way you think you should because of others expectations or the way other people tell you, don't get to your deathbed and regret stuff. None of us are getting out of here alive. Grab it by the short and curlys " Fab can be fun, interesting and many different things, confidence builds along the way I have found, Glad your enjoying your fab journey DD | |||
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"I am a Tart and missed my calling as a Stand Up Comedian or a Gigolo Are ya not a flower " Brilliant | |||
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"So I attended my first party on Friday night and stepped very far out of my comfort zone, from been flogged, stripping off in front of people I barely know and been tied up, getting naked with 4 other beautiful women to take photos. I'm on/off fab 4 years and I have discovered a lot about myself, I've definitely come out of my shell ( still a bit to go) but I'm thankful to the people I've met, the ones that I now consider good friends, the ones that have been nasty which has thought me that's not my fault or issue its theirs. I spoke to a guy who met me at a social over 2 yrs ago and told me at a recent social that the difference in me since than is unreal. I know its a swingers site but I think a lot of people miss the point, a lot join here thinking it's dial a ride, but its also a great community with great people, normal everyday people who enjoy sex. So I want to say thanks to you all, even the twats, life is too short to be nasty and mean if you don't like someone that's OK, stay in your own lane. Live your life the way you want to live it, not the way you think you should because of others expectations or the way other people tell you, don't get to your deathbed and regret stuff. None of us are getting out of here alive. Grab it by the short and curlys " Good on ya DD I'm delighted you had such a great experience. I know I'm not in here that much but it's still lovely to come and read these little treads that make everyone get that warm and fuzzy feeling inside and just pause and think for a minute and about all the good things about this community instead of the not so good. Everyone is here for the same reason to enjoy themselves. Great Post and great comments too from everyone. | |||
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"For a single man this site is very frustrating. The expectation is absolutely silly. It seems to be a very closed shop and extremely hard to get anywhere here. The most frustrating part is the whole someone reads a message and doesn’t bother to reply thing. That really annoys me as I’m one that has manners and prefers to talk to someone if not interested instead of pure ignoring. I’d love to get involved but it’s not easy. I’ve met 2 women here over the years but can’t verify as you need to be verified first. Really annoying. So it’s great that you have found yourself and feel confident etc but for those of us on the outside it’s very frustrating. As I said. CLOSED SHOP. " Sorry it sounds like a frustrating experience . I was on here for ages without meeting people and having sent many a message which went unanswered . I am glad I Didn’t know about the forum as I would have ranted about it . The angry posts don’t rectify the situation, and might exacerbate it . It’s actually not a closed shop. I have noticed the odd bloke Here and there getting invited to socials or meets with people fairly quickly. For many others it’s a gradual process . For some it never resolves I guess . There isn’t advice which will fit you 100 per cent . You ll have to decide whether a review of your profile and pics , a long drive to a social with less restrictive invitation criteria , a genuine rapport building interaction with a fabber you’re interested in or some other way is the best for you . Or whether fab is for you at all. Best of luck | |||
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"For a single man this site is very frustrating. The expectation is absolutely silly. It seems to be a very closed shop and extremely hard to get anywhere here. The most frustrating part is the whole someone reads a message and doesn’t bother to reply thing. That really annoys me as I’m one that has manners and prefers to talk to someone if not interested instead of pure ignoring. I’d love to get involved but it’s not easy. I’ve met 2 women here over the years but can’t verify as you need to be verified first. Really annoying. So it’s great that you have found yourself and feel confident etc but for those of us on the outside it’s very frustrating. As I said. CLOSED SHOP. Sorry it sounds like a frustrating experience . I was on here for ages without meeting people and having sent many a message which went unanswered . I am glad I Didn’t know about the forum as I would have ranted about it . The angry posts don’t rectify the situation, and might exacerbate it . It’s actually not a closed shop. I have noticed the odd bloke Here and there getting invited to socials or meets with people fairly quickly. For many others it’s a gradual process . For some it never resolves I guess . There isn’t advice which will fit you 100 per cent . You ll have to decide whether a review of your profile and pics , a long drive to a social with less restrictive invitation criteria , a genuine rapport building interaction with a fabber you’re interested in or some other way is the best for you . Or whether fab is for you at all. Best of luck " So,is it basically , conform, or sling your hook mate ,it does seem to be one or the other. I would be interested to hear your view on this. Any criticism is taken as contsructive | |||
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"For a single man this site is very frustrating. The expectation is absolutely silly. It seems to be a very closed shop and extremely hard to get anywhere here. The most frustrating part is the whole someone reads a message and doesn’t bother to reply thing. That really annoys me as I’m one that has manners and prefers to talk to someone if not interested instead of pure ignoring. I’d love to get involved but it’s not easy. I’ve met 2 women here over the years but can’t verify as you need to be verified first. Really annoying. So it’s great that you have found yourself and feel confident etc but for those of us on the outside it’s very frustrating. As I said. CLOSED SHOP. Sorry it sounds like a frustrating experience . I was on here for ages without meeting people and having sent many a message which went unanswered . I am glad I Didn’t know about the forum as I would have ranted about it . The angry posts don’t rectify the situation, and might exacerbate it . It’s actually not a closed shop. I have noticed the odd bloke Here and there getting invited to socials or meets with people fairly quickly. For many others it’s a gradual process . For some it never resolves I guess . There isn’t advice which will fit you 100 per cent . You ll have to decide whether a review of your profile and pics , a long drive to a social with less restrictive invitation criteria , a genuine rapport building interaction with a fabber you’re interested in or some other way is the best for you . Or whether fab is for you at all. Best of luck " My main gripe is when you send a message and don’t get a reply. I’ve tried all sorts of messages. Nice ones, naughty ones, long ones etc. Not even an acknowledgment. I’m not angry but just very frustrated. This is a world I’ve tried very hard to get into but I stand by my quote when I say it’s a closed shop. | |||
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"For a single man this site is very frustrating. The expectation is absolutely silly. It seems to be a very closed shop and extremely hard to get anywhere here. The most frustrating part is the whole someone reads a message and doesn’t bother to reply thing. That really annoys me as I’m one that has manners and prefers to talk to someone if not interested instead of pure ignoring. I’d love to get involved but it’s not easy. I’ve met 2 women here over the years but can’t verify as you need to be verified first. Really annoying. So it’s great that you have found yourself and feel confident etc but for those of us on the outside it’s very frustrating. As I said. CLOSED SHOP. Sorry it sounds like a frustrating experience . I was on here for ages without meeting people and having sent many a message which went unanswered . I am glad I Didn’t know about the forum as I would have ranted about it . The angry posts don’t rectify the situation, and might exacerbate it . It’s actually not a closed shop. I have noticed the odd bloke Here and there getting invited to socials or meets with people fairly quickly. For many others it’s a gradual process . For some it never resolves I guess . There isn’t advice which will fit you 100 per cent . You ll have to decide whether a review of your profile and pics , a long drive to a social with less restrictive invitation criteria , a genuine rapport building interaction with a fabber you’re interested in or some other way is the best for you . Or whether fab is for you at all. Best of luck So,is it basically , conform, or sling your hook mate ,it does seem to be one or the other. I would be interested to hear your view on this. Any criticism is taken as contsructive" I don’t think blokes who meet a lot are conformists necessarily Although I am no expert as I don’t interact with most and I am not a socials attender , but hoping for this to change . Some use humour , and know when to get away with a bit of slagging that’s miles away from angry rants Some seem to be good to chat to Some would rely on looks Some make huge effort to attend things Some rely on the help of a couple profile if there is a fabber they’ve clicked with Some use a forensic approach to combing through profiles and sending many messages and hoping one gets things moving And some will restrain their natural tendencies and maybe try to charm and conform as you say but that’s not a long lasting strategy as the mask slips eventually Or a combination And there are loads of categories I have missed I am sure | |||
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"For a single man this site is very frustrating. The expectation is absolutely silly. It seems to be a very closed shop and extremely hard to get anywhere here. The most frustrating part is the whole someone reads a message and doesn’t bother to reply thing. That really annoys me as I’m one that has manners and prefers to talk to someone if not interested instead of pure ignoring. I’d love to get involved but it’s not easy. I’ve met 2 women here over the years but can’t verify as you need to be verified first. Really annoying. So it’s great that you have found yourself and feel confident etc but for those of us on the outside it’s very frustrating. As I said. CLOSED SHOP. Sorry it sounds like a frustrating experience . I was on here for ages without meeting people and having sent many a message which went unanswered . I am glad I Didn’t know about the forum as I would have ranted about it . The angry posts don’t rectify the situation, and might exacerbate it . It’s actually not a closed shop. I have noticed the odd bloke Here and there getting invited to socials or meets with people fairly quickly. For many others it’s a gradual process . For some it never resolves I guess . There isn’t advice which will fit you 100 per cent . You ll have to decide whether a review of your profile and pics , a long drive to a social with less restrictive invitation criteria , a genuine rapport building interaction with a fabber you’re interested in or some other way is the best for you . Or whether fab is for you at all. Best of luck My main gripe is when you send a message and don’t get a reply. I’ve tried all sorts of messages. Nice ones, naughty ones, long ones etc. Not even an acknowledgment. I’m not angry but just very frustrated. This is a world I’ve tried very hard to get into but I stand by my quote when I say it’s a closed shop. " One of the first bits of advice, if you send a message and don't get a reply, just move on. Some women get 100s of mails. As for the replies sometimes it's just not worth the grief if you reply saying no thanks and I know you say you are polite etc but unfortunately no way to know that. Secondly there is someone for everyone on here, stick with it. Lose the negativity from your profile, it's your shop window draw us in. Get involved on forums abd enjoy the experience and all going well someone will click with you | |||
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"Fab hasn't taught me anything about myself that i didn't already know. I have learned though only lately, not to dismiss all unverified mens profiles. I have discovered a hidden gem that im excited about meeting. Fab has also taught me that are an awful lot of crazies out there. " Couldn't agree more about unverified men, and the crazies.... Well that goes without saying | |||
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"For a single man this site is very frustrating. The expectation is absolutely silly. It seems to be a very closed shop and extremely hard to get anywhere here. The most frustrating part is the whole someone reads a message and doesn’t bother to reply thing. That really annoys me as I’m one that has manners and prefers to talk to someone if not interested instead of pure ignoring. I’d love to get involved but it’s not easy. I’ve met 2 women here over the years but can’t verify as you need to be verified first. Really annoying. So it’s great that you have found yourself and feel confident etc but for those of us on the outside it’s very frustrating. As I said. CLOSED SHOP. Sorry it sounds like a frustrating experience . I was on here for ages without meeting people and having sent many a message which went unanswered . I am glad I Didn’t know about the forum as I would have ranted about it . The angry posts don’t rectify the situation, and might exacerbate it . It’s actually not a closed shop. I have noticed the odd bloke Here and there getting invited to socials or meets with people fairly quickly. For many others it’s a gradual process . For some it never resolves I guess . There isn’t advice which will fit you 100 per cent . You ll have to decide whether a review of your profile and pics , a long drive to a social with less restrictive invitation criteria , a genuine rapport building interaction with a fabber you’re interested in or some other way is the best for you . Or whether fab is for you at all. Best of luck So,is it basically , conform, or sling your hook mate ,it does seem to be one or the other. I would be interested to hear your view on this. Any criticism is taken as contsructive I don’t think blokes who meet a lot are conformists necessarily Although I am no expert as I don’t interact with most and I am not a socials attender , but hoping for this to change . Some use humour , and know when to get away with a bit of slagging that’s miles away from angry rants Some seem to be good to chat to Some would rely on looks Some make huge effort to attend things Some rely on the help of a couple profile if there is a fabber they’ve clicked with Some use a forensic approach to combing through profiles and sending many messages and hoping one gets things moving And some will restrain their natural tendencies and maybe try to charm and conform as you say but that’s not a long lasting strategy as the mask slips eventually Or a combination And there are loads of categories I have missed I am sure " All good points ,I suppose I use the forensic approach myself, that said I don't send a lot of messages, (I go by gut instinct also, a profile can say a lot of things ,but forum posts and replies give a better insight to the person) and if not replied to,I delete and dismiss. I quite simply wouldn't have as much free time as some seem to on here or maybe it's that this would be lower on my list of priorities. | |||
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" One of the first bits of advice, if you send a message and don't get a reply, just move on. Some women get 100s of mails. As for the replies sometimes it's just not worth the grief if you reply saying no thanks and I know you say you are polite etc but unfortunately no way to know that. Secondly there is someone for everyone on here, stick with it. Lose the negativity from your profile, it's your shop window draw us in. Get involved on forums abd enjoy the experience and all going well someone will click with you " This exactly especially the last bit about your profile .I look at a profile before I even open a message from someone new if it doesn't appeal to me or has negatively on it then chances are I won't answer. Especially the negative part would be massive turn off and would make me think this person would turn quick if things don't turn out the way they want. And yes I understand how frustrating it is for men on here but I'm not here to deal with others issues and problems with the site I prefer to concentrate on my own journey and those I get on with on here.I use to try and give advice before if anyone asked but I've found 95 per cent completely ignore any advice they are given anyhow so now I can't be bothered. | |||
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"I relation to fab being a closed shop I can understand the frustration and yes of course it's somewhat a closed shop because its a lifestyle site which is still somewhat shamed in general society especially for women. I had as slow a start here as anyone but in reflection it was down to my interaction with the site and not the other way round. Fab was a means to an end (or getting an end away ) I found the site some night I wanted a ride and logged in and messaged people when I was looking for instant gratification and surprisingly low responses. I approach couples with no real interest in the dynamic because the wife was hot in general I was just a dog trying to hump nearby legs. I was never rude or graphic and sometimes I was even slightly witty but I was always here woth tunnel vision. A couple of things happened that changed that for me. I got fed up of getting nowhere and gave up on meeting and I found the forum. I found a funny, argumentative inclusive community and started getting interested in logging on when my blood wasn't up so to speak. I started genuinely being interested in other people's experiences and reasons for being here and slowly I started getting interest off people for meeting. OK that was longer than intended my point in short is if you want this to be a hook up site soley your going to probably be met with disappointment (there are of course exceptions) and your probably better off on tinder. If you want to get involved in the site/community in general take it slow message people not because you thing you want to fuck them but there is something that really intrigues you about them and express that in the message. Get involved in the forums and try to get along to meet and greets. " Well said | |||
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"I relation to fab being a closed shop I can understand the frustration and yes of course it's somewhat a closed shop because its a lifestyle site which is still somewhat shamed in general society especially for women. I had as slow a start here as anyone but in reflection it was down to my interaction with the site and not the other way round. Fab was a means to an end (or getting an end away ) I found the site some night I wanted a ride and logged in and messaged people when I was looking for instant gratification and surprisingly low responses. I approach couples with no real interest in the dynamic because the wife was hot in general I was just a dog trying to hump nearby legs. I was never rude or graphic and sometimes I was even slightly witty but I was always here woth tunnel vision. A couple of things happened that changed that for me. I got fed up of getting nowhere and gave up on meeting and I found the forum. I found a funny, argumentative inclusive community and started getting interested in logging on when my blood wasn't up so to speak. I started genuinely being interested in other people's experiences and reasons for being here and slowly I started getting interest off people for meeting. OK that was longer than intended my point in short is if you want this to be a hook up site soley your going to probably be met with disappointment (there are of course exceptions) and your probably better off on tinder. If you want to get involved in the site/community in general take it slow message people not because you thing you want to fuck them but there is something that really intrigues you about them and express that in the message. Get involved in the forums and try to get along to meet and greets. " Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. | |||
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"I relation to fab being a closed shop I can understand the frustration and yes of course it's somewhat a closed shop because its a lifestyle site which is still somewhat shamed in general society especially for women. I had as slow a start here as anyone but in reflection it was down to my interaction with the site and not the other way round. Fab was a means to an end (or getting an end away ) I found the site some night I wanted a ride and logged in and messaged people when I was looking for instant gratification and surprisingly low responses. I approach couples with no real interest in the dynamic because the wife was hot in general I was just a dog trying to hump nearby legs. I was never rude or graphic and sometimes I was even slightly witty but I was always here woth tunnel vision. A couple of things happened that changed that for me. I got fed up of getting nowhere and gave up on meeting and I found the forum. I found a funny, argumentative inclusive community and started getting interested in logging on when my blood wasn't up so to speak. I started genuinely being interested in other people's experiences and reasons for being here and slowly I started getting interest off people for meeting. OK that was longer than intended my point in short is if you want this to be a hook up site soley your going to probably be met with disappointment (there are of course exceptions) and your probably better off on tinder. If you want to get involved in the site/community in general take it slow message people not because you thing you want to fuck them but there is something that really intrigues you about them and express that in the message. Get involved in the forums and try to get along to meet and greets. Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. " Plough ahead and go for it...everyone uses this site their own way. I'd imagine the forum takes up a very insignificant part of this site for most people | |||
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"I relation to fab being a closed shop I can understand the frustration and yes of course it's somewhat a closed shop because its a lifestyle site which is still somewhat shamed in general society especially for women. I had as slow a start here as anyone but in reflection it was down to my interaction with the site and not the other way round. Fab was a means to an end (or getting an end away ) I found the site some night I wanted a ride and logged in and messaged people when I was looking for instant gratification and surprisingly low responses. I approach couples with no real interest in the dynamic because the wife was hot in general I was just a dog trying to hump nearby legs. I was never rude or graphic and sometimes I was even slightly witty but I was always here woth tunnel vision. A couple of things happened that changed that for me. I got fed up of getting nowhere and gave up on meeting and I found the forum. I found a funny, argumentative inclusive community and started getting interested in logging on when my blood wasn't up so to speak. I started genuinely being interested in other people's experiences and reasons for being here and slowly I started getting interest off people for meeting. OK that was longer than intended my point in short is if you want this to be a hook up site soley your going to probably be met with disappointment (there are of course exceptions) and your probably better off on tinder. If you want to get involved in the site/community in general take it slow message people not because you thing you want to fuck them but there is something that really intrigues you about them and express that in the message. Get involved in the forums and try to get along to meet and greets. Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. " As bog said just use the site whatever way it suits you. I find the social side great. But each to their own. | |||
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"I relation to fab being a closed shop I can understand the frustration and yes of course it's somewhat a closed shop because its a lifestyle site which is still somewhat shamed in general society especially for women. I had as slow a start here as anyone but in reflection it was down to my interaction with the site and not the other way round. Fab was a means to an end (or getting an end away ) I found the site some night I wanted a ride and logged in and messaged people when I was looking for instant gratification and surprisingly low responses. I approach couples with no real interest in the dynamic because the wife was hot in general I was just a dog trying to hump nearby legs. I was never rude or graphic and sometimes I was even slightly witty but I was always here woth tunnel vision. A couple of things happened that changed that for me. I got fed up of getting nowhere and gave up on meeting and I found the forum. I found a funny, argumentative inclusive community and started getting interested in logging on when my blood wasn't up so to speak. I started genuinely being interested in other people's experiences and reasons for being here and slowly I started getting interest off people for meeting. OK that was longer than intended my point in short is if you want this to be a hook up site soley your going to probably be met with disappointment (there are of course exceptions) and your probably better off on tinder. If you want to get involved in the site/community in general take it slow message people not because you thing you want to fuck them but there is something that really intrigues you about them and express that in the message. Get involved in the forums and try to get along to meet and greets. Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Plough ahead and go for it...everyone uses this site their own way. I'd imagine the forum takes up a very insignificant part of this site for most people " It has its uses, but yes insignificant really | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. " Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it " ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means..." Found that an odd statement myself too | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too" Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein" Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting" Ummmm sure have fun with the dinnerware | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein" I get ya now... thanks for elaborating Another example of not using the Quote - "tool & outlets" would be men not heeding advice when they ask for constructive help with their profiles/bios... & a week later they're complaining again that they're not getting any replies ...& They haven't made the changes advised... They still have the same very close up graphic sexually explicit dick pic as profile pic & more very similar in gallery & also have that they`d meet 18-99 yr olds...lmao... I have given my advice many times when they've asked...either here in forums or some mail me privately... But I'm beginning to think why should I bother any more... Lots don't heed the advice given by me & other fabbers. But some do & those that did started to receive replies etc... So in reference to OPs question... One of the minor things I've learnt from fab is ...Some men never take the advise they look for or request on here & 10yrs later they're still here saying they can't get replies never mind a meet & yup with the same profile photos & 1 line bio & yup saying they`d fk a 99 yr old... I've learned lots more important things from this site... Safety issues too etc... But I ain't going there. Soz for the essay... Guess it's a rant also. | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting" It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. " Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued. | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued." Can some one please tell me what a "Cracked Plate" means...I'd prefer not to Google it...I`d rather hear from the peeps that use this cryptic saying...I've heard it a few times recently on here or is the meaning of a "Cracked Plate" so obvious... i.e no one wants (to use it) & it's full of germs that may make you I'll... But said "Cracked Plate" is obvs referring to a human...I may be wrong in my interpretation... But is that it??? | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued. Can some one please tell me what a "Cracked Plate" means...I'd prefer not to Google it...I`d rather hear from the peeps that use this cryptic saying...I've heard it a few times recently on here or is the meaning of a "Cracked Plate" so obvious... i.e no one wants (to use it) & it's full of germs that may make you I'll... But said "Cracked Plate" is obvs referring to a human...I may be wrong in my interpretation... But is that it???" *Make you ill...my phone is seriously rife with typos | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued." To quote one of your own posts above “a profile can say a lot of things ,but forum posts and replies give a better insight to the person” | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued. Can some one please tell me what a "Cracked Plate" means...I'd prefer not to Google it...I`d rather hear from the peeps that use this cryptic saying...I've heard it a few times recently on here or is the meaning of a "Cracked Plate" so obvious... i.e no one wants (to use it) & it's full of germs that may make you I'll... But said "Cracked Plate" is obvs referring to a human...I may be wrong in my interpretation... But is that it???" A cracked plate basically means that a guy has low standards on who he would have sex with | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued. To quote one of your own posts above “a profile can say a lot of things ,but forum posts and replies give a better insight to the person”" Precisely | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued. Can some one please tell me what a "Cracked Plate" means...I'd prefer not to Google it...I`d rather hear from the peeps that use this cryptic saying...I've heard it a few times recently on here or is the meaning of a "Cracked Plate" so obvious... i.e no one wants (to use it) & it's full of germs that may make you I'll... But said "Cracked Plate" is obvs referring to a human...I may be wrong in my interpretation... But is that it??? A cracked plate basically means that a guy has low standards on who he would have sex with " Thanks a mill for your explanation...so I kinda had it right... kinda I kinda like my interpretation of it too though...but maybe like isn't the right word to use. There's a few "Cracked Plates" tbh more than a few... But I'll shut up now. | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued. To quote one of your own posts above “a profile can say a lot of things ,but forum posts and replies give a better insight to the person” Precisely " So you agree that your posts here are a true reflection of how you see the site | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued. To quote one of your own posts above “a profile can say a lot of things ,but forum posts and replies give a better insight to the person” Precisely So you agree that your posts here are a true reflection of how you see the site " As I've posted them yes, how others have perceived them ,I have no idea, a lot is just sarcasm which usually doesn't translate well in text. Anyway please let's agree to disagree as I almost feel I'm being harassed here. | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued. To quote one of your own posts above “a profile can say a lot of things ,but forum posts and replies give a better insight to the person” Precisely So you agree that your posts here are a true reflection of how you see the site As I've posted them yes, how others have perceived them ,I have no idea, a lot is just sarcasm which usually doesn't translate well in text. Anyway please let's agree to disagree as I almost feel I'm being harassed here. " ^^^^^^^ Quote - "I almost feel I'm being harassed here." ^^^^^^^ Unfortunately yes sometimes it can feel like we are being harassed on here & sometimes we actually are, Some also just like to 'nit-pick' I've no idea why someone is assuming it's a "closed shop for you" either...what's that about... It's clear you weren't referring to yourself when you said that earlier...prime example of misconstrued. Also lots of times what we say in these forums is seriously misconstrued & misinterpreted & twisted so far that you'd wonder where some peeps brain is at. I find this happens only mainly in the Irish forums to me personally...strange eh...yup ... It does make me wonder...But I find it quite entertaining the reactions & misinterpretations & lashin out that some peeps do... Such is fab eh | |||
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"What I've learned from Fab is sometimes you need to be very careful as to what you type. Threads like this can be definitely entertaining but sometimes just as uncomfortable as occasionally it can look like a personal attack on some poor sod that wasn't careful. It can be very unfair that some people will go out of their way to pick apart people when there is no justification, not really. Yes, it's usually because someone posted an easy target comment. Regardless if the context was clear. They see someone mess up by leaving something possibly controversial open to misinterpretation, a chance to I suppose kick someone in public while they have the chance. I mean at the end of the day regardless of what people use the site for or what they get out of it when ya look at it this is a site full of anonymous people looking for sex. I suppose some people get off on that more than the sex Right, I'm ready for my roasting " Can you give us an example? | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued." Apologies, having scrolled back I realise that it wasn’t you that mentioned a closed shop | |||
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"What I've learned from Fab is sometimes you need to be very careful as to what you type. Threads like this can be definitely entertaining but sometimes just as uncomfortable as occasionally it can look like a personal attack on some poor sod that wasn't careful. It can be very unfair that some people will go out of their way to pick apart people when there is no justification, not really. Yes, it's usually because someone posted an easy target comment. Regardless if the context was clear. They see someone mess up by leaving something possibly controversial open to misinterpretation, a chance to I suppose kick someone in public while they have the chance. I mean at the end of the day regardless of what people use the site for or what they get out of it when ya look at it this is a site full of anonymous people looking for sex. I suppose some people get off on that more than the sex Right, I'm ready for my roasting Can you give us an example?" Can you please not give us any examples | |||
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"What I've learned from Fab is sometimes you need to be very careful as to what you type. Threads like this can be definitely entertaining but sometimes just as uncomfortable as occasionally it can look like a personal attack on some poor sod that wasn't careful. It can be very unfair that some people will go out of their way to pick apart people when there is no justification, not really. Yes, it's usually because someone posted an easy target comment. Regardless if the context was clear. They see someone mess up by leaving something possibly controversial open to misinterpretation, a chance to I suppose kick someone in public while they have the chance. I mean at the end of the day regardless of what people use the site for or what they get out of it when ya look at it this is a site full of anonymous people looking for sex. I suppose some people get off on that more than the sex Right, I'm ready for my roasting Can you give us an example?" Actually no, not without breaking forum rules. So I'll just leave it as is. But thank you for looking for the opportunity to create something bigger out of it. Happy fabbing | |||
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"What I've learned from Fab is sometimes you need to be very careful as to what you type. Threads like this can be definitely entertaining but sometimes just as uncomfortable as occasionally it can look like a personal attack on some poor sod that wasn't careful. It can be very unfair that some people will go out of their way to pick apart people when there is no justification, not really. Yes, it's usually because someone posted an easy target comment. Regardless if the context was clear. They see someone mess up by leaving something possibly controversial open to misinterpretation, a chance to I suppose kick someone in public while they have the chance. I mean at the end of the day regardless of what people use the site for or what they get out of it when ya look at it this is a site full of anonymous people looking for sex. I suppose some people get off on that more than the sex Right, I'm ready for my roasting Can you give us an example? Actually no, not without breaking forum rules. So I'll just leave it as is. But thank you for looking for the opportunity to create something bigger out of it. Happy fabbing" Apologies I actually thought you had phrased that differently and wrte referring directly to this thread but you did say thread like this. Thats why I asked for an example. My bad | |||
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"What I've learned from Fab is sometimes you need to be very careful as to what you type. Threads like this can be definitely entertaining but sometimes just as uncomfortable as occasionally it can look like a personal attack on some poor sod that wasn't careful. It can be very unfair that some people will go out of their way to pick apart people when there is no justification, not really. Yes, it's usually because someone posted an easy target comment. Regardless if the context was clear. They see someone mess up by leaving something possibly controversial open to misinterpretation, a chance to I suppose kick someone in public while they have the chance. I mean at the end of the day regardless of what people use the site for or what they get out of it when ya look at it this is a site full of anonymous people looking for sex. I suppose some people get off on that more than the sex Right, I'm ready for my roasting Can you give us an example? Actually no, not without breaking forum rules. So I'll just leave it as is. But thank you for looking for the opportunity to create something bigger out of it. Happy fabbing Apologies I actually thought you had phrased that differently and wrte referring directly to this thread but you did say thread like this. Thats why I asked for an example. My bad" It's all good | |||
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" Good points ,but what if you don't want to get involved in the social activities/community and are just here for respectful ,NSA ,occasional encounters as best suits your own already busy lifestyle. Then great. Go for it there is no one right way to use the site. But in my opinion there are other apps that work better for that type of encounter. And if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it ^^^^^^^ Quote - "there is no one right way to use the site" ^^^^^^^ I agree...within reason "there is no one right way to use the site" Some people use this site as a dating site...me included... & that's ok too. There isn't a rule to say we can't do this. I don't understand though what you mean by Quite - "if it doesn't work out on fab then someone doesn't have a leg to stand on when blaming the site or the people on it" ... We're all responsible for who we meet etc... & Why would someone blame the site? Soz I'm just a little confused as to what they means... Found that an odd statement myself too Put simply if you aren't willing to use all the tools and outlets of the site you can't then turn around and blame lack of progress on "fab being closed shop" or reasons in a similar vein Right ,so do all and anything you can to get up on a cracked plate... interesting It’s that very attitude that has resulted in it being a closed shop for you. Sounds like you’d be better off choosing a different app if you only have time for one. Who said it was a was a closed shop for me , I was just pointing out a few not so obvious issues that some single guys may have, if you take the time to read my profile you'll see that the cracked plate comment is entirely the opposite to my attitude and merely a wordplay on what the poster said. Apologies ,I can't help if my sense of humour isnt understood or misconstrued. Apologies, having scrolled back I realise that it wasn’t you that mentioned a closed shop " Not worries,just a misunderstanding | |||
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"Thanks guys. Some very good points in there. If I’m to change my profile what would be the main points to include? I don’t make a secret of the fact that the only thing on my bucket list is the elusive MMF FFM MFM or whatever combination you can think of. Any advice would be appreciated. " Can only speak for myself, but a tongue sticking out makes me question the maturity level of the profile owner, plus I'm never going to read a profile that long | |||
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"Thanks guys. Some very good points in there. If I’m to change my profile what would be the main points to include? I don’t make a secret of the fact that the only thing on my bucket list is the elusive MMF FFM MFM or whatever combination you can think of. Any advice would be appreciated. " Just be yourself lad...geniuses here will always judge books on covers...you showing your personality...good job | |||
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"The diesl pic is your best for profile and outside of that I'd suggest making your bio much shorter. Keep a little bit of what you like and who you are to generate conversation. And when you message someone you want to chat with, socially meet and hopefully eventually play with just keep the chat reasonably clean until they are comfortable with you first. That's all advice I got and it has definitely helped me, happy fabbing" For Naviman | |||
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"Thanks guys. Some very good points in there. If I’m to change my profile what would be the main points to include? I don’t make a secret of the fact that the only thing on my bucket list is the elusive MMF FFM MFM or whatever combination you can think of. Any advice would be appreciated. Can only speak for myself, but a tongue sticking out makes me question the maturity level of the profile owner, plus I'm never going to read a profile that long " Advice taken and acted upon. | |||
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