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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I've being asked to keep the thread going as it was going so well. Here's original post

I had a rather delicious threesome lately so got me thinking to set up the threesome club on a thread. Kinda like a sports social but for fucking. So many of my friends would love a threesome but struggle here to find decent guys. So post below what you're looking for and let's see can we do some match making

Now lads if you have a blank profile don't post and think horny girls in your area are going to be messaging you! The first rule of threesome club as a single man is to be sane sound and respectful and put the effort in to reap the rewards

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The last comment from _happy2021 on original thread is in need of urgent attention. Let's find her that MFM she wants

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By *happy2021Woman
over a year ago

Dublin

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By *ackieMan
over a year ago

south


"I've being asked to keep the thread going as it was going so well. Here's original post

I had a rather delicious threesome lately so got me thinking to set up the threesome club on a thread. Kinda like a sports social but for fucking. So many of my friends would love a threesome but struggle here to find decent guys. So post below what you're looking for and let's see can we do some match making

Now lads if you have a blank profile don't post and think horny girls in your area are going to be messaging you! The first rule of threesome club as a single man is to be sane sound and respectful and put the effort in to reap the rewards"

For MFM would be to make sure the lady is well looked after and she gets the full benefits.

FMF to be a greedy fucker and just let them do what they want

MMF be open and filthy while sharing is caring

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By *ewbie006Man
over a year ago

Kilkenny

I would love to be in a MFM threesome wherein I submit myself completely to the couple to fulfil all their needs. Not into pain stuff but would always love to worship the female and also take care of the male needs..

Would also love the female to guide me into satisfying her partner if it’s a bisexual mfm..

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By *ocketman99Man
over a year ago

fermanagh

In a threesome, from what limited experience Ive had in that scenario the priorities for the lady I assume is both respect and being comfortable with the two gentlemen involved. Also everyone should be getting equal satisfaction and everyone getting the attention they want and also deserve.

Having a ‘spare tyre’ there isn’t gonna make for a great time and would diminish the very definition of a threesome if one individual was left shading there and ignored. Abviously in a cuckold scenario this is what is probably going on (I don’t know) but for this comment I assume it’s three people wanting and equally playing. (I think this applies to MMF, MFM, FFM or any other variation of those letters I have inadvertently left out)

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By *ewrideMan
over a year ago

KK

What you want imo, is everyone to really want to be there.

Evident enthusiasm from all parties. Guys not too awkward about the general homoeroticism of the situation.

Women eager to please and be pleased

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By *ofusplusCouple
over a year ago

Limerick


"In a threesome, from what limited experience Ive had in that scenario the priorities for the lady I assume is both respect and being comfortable with the two gentlemen involved. Also everyone should be getting equal satisfaction and everyone getting the attention they want and also deserve.

Having a ‘spare tyre’ there isn’t gonna make for a great time and would diminish the very definition of a threesome if one individual was left shading there and ignored. Abviously in a cuckold scenario this is what is probably going on (I don’t know) but for this comment I assume it’s three people wanting and equally playing. (I think this applies to MMF, MFM, FFM or any other variation of those letters I have inadvertently left out)"

Having read most of the comments, I have to agree with this one (and disagree with others) insofar as it's not ALL about the lady (assume that was said to get kudos). I would say it's about equal exploration/fantasies met for all three and also equal respect for all three. This is what makes for an amazing MFM in my view and limited experience. Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find mfms a learning experience for everyone involved!!! Yes, I feel that the lady should be the priority and all her requests fully fulfilled!!! But then again I'm a giver!!

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By *taylor122Man
over a year ago

dublin

From experience it’s all comfort. F needs to be comfortable with those in attendance and ensuring her needs are met. M needs to be comfortable with behaving himself and ensuring that no issues performing in front of other M’s

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We had a long conversation about this yesterday. We'd love to meet up with a bi guy who is comfortable and confident with his sexuality and in a group scenario; someone who is easygoing, creative, who will use his initiative, will explore and try things and who doesn't need us to direct his every move; someone who will laugh as hard as we do when our leftfield ideas don't work out; perhaps someone we can meet regularly and continue to grow with; someone who doesn't see me as just a receptacle for his cock.

Obviously all other conditions apply - reasonably local, mutual attraction and the ability for us all to get along like a house on fire are still a pre-requisite

K

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We had a long conversation about this yesterday. We'd love to meet up with a bi guy who is comfortable and confident with his sexuality and in a group scenario; someone who is easygoing, creative, who will use his initiative, will explore and try things and who doesn't need us to direct his every move; someone who will laugh as hard as we do when our leftfield ideas don't work out; perhaps someone we can meet regularly and continue to grow with; someone who doesn't see me as just a receptacle for his cock.

Obviously all other conditions apply - reasonably local, mutual attraction and the ability for us all to get along like a house on fire are still a pre-requisite

K"

All applications to the author of the original message!!! Photos a priority plus level of experience!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s all out making her feel comfortable not just going at her with 2 swords also chat before hand relax and unwind, find out what off limits but most importantly making her reach new heights that my input

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By *ean299Man
over a year ago

Lucan

This is a very interesting thread. I have had some experience of being with a couple in mfm scenario.

Being comfortable in each other's presence, ensuring all are equally satisfied, and that any limits are respected, is the key.

I am really hoping to repeat the experience but, unfortunately, my age now seems to be a barrier. Ah well, I can always dream.

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By *shoreMan
over a year ago

cork

Again I'd love to try it mfm.... Nice hotel room... A glass or 2 of bubbly

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By *ensualnFunCouple
over a year ago

Midlands


"In a threesome, from what limited experience Ive had in that scenario the priorities for the lady I assume is both respect and being comfortable with the two gentlemen involved. Also everyone should be getting equal satisfaction and everyone getting the attention they want and also deserve.

Having a ‘spare tyre’ there isn’t gonna make for a great time and would diminish the very definition of a threesome if one individual was left shading there and ignored. Abviously in a cuckold scenario this is what is probably going on (I don’t know) but for this comment I assume it’s three people wanting and equally playing. (I think this applies to MMF, MFM, FFM or any other variation of those letters I have inadvertently left out)

Having read most of the comments, I have to agree with this one (and disagree with others) insofar as it's not ALL about the lady (assume that was said to get kudos). I would say it's about equal exploration/fantasies met for all three and also equal respect for all three. This is what makes for an amazing MFM in my view and limited experience. Mrs "

I agree AND I disagree lol

I love being the centre of attention in a MFM and being spoilt.

That said I love pleasing, hearing the men’s pleasure, seeing it and above all making a man come

So I guess a bit of give and take there… it’s a dance really… a very erotic one…

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By *eijaWoman
over a year ago

City Centre


"In a threesome, from what limited experience Ive had in that scenario the priorities for the lady I assume is both respect and being comfortable with the two gentlemen involved. Also everyone should be getting equal satisfaction and everyone getting the attention they want and also deserve.

Having a ‘spare tyre’ there isn’t gonna make for a great time and would diminish the very definition of a threesome if one individual was left shading there and ignored. Abviously in a cuckold scenario this is what is probably going on (I don’t know) but for this comment I assume it’s three people wanting and equally playing. (I think this applies to MMF, MFM, FFM or any other variation of those letters I have inadvertently left out)

Having read most of the comments, I have to agree with this one (and disagree with others) insofar as it's not ALL about the lady (assume that was said to get kudos). I would say it's about equal exploration/fantasies met for all three and also equal respect for all three. This is what makes for an amazing MFM in my view and limited experience. Mrs "

Totally agree on this one it's definitely a shared experience for all and we are all about mutual satisfaction...once everyone is happy we are happy

We definitely like to please

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By *asual777Man
over a year ago

i travel all over


"I've being asked to keep the thread going as it was going so well. Here's original post

I had a rather delicious threesome lately so got me thinking to set up the threesome club on a thread. Kinda like a sports social but for fucking. So many of my friends would love a threesome but struggle here to find decent guys. So post below what you're looking for and let's see can we do some match making

Now lads if you have a blank profile don't post and think horny girls in your area are going to be messaging you! The first rule of threesome club as a single man is to be sane sound and respectful and put the effort in to reap the rewards"

Something amazing happened at today’s meet

Everyone who was meant to turn up did as planned !!

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By *happy2021Woman
over a year ago

Dublin


"I've being asked to keep the thread going as it was going so well. Here's original post

I had a rather delicious threesome lately so got me thinking to set up the threesome club on a thread. Kinda like a sports social but for fucking. So many of my friends would love a threesome but struggle here to find decent guys. So post below what you're looking for and let's see can we do some match making

Now lads if you have a blank profile don't post and think horny girls in your area are going to be messaging you! The first rule of threesome club as a single man is to be sane sound and respectful and put the effort in to reap the rewards

Something amazing happened at today’s meet

Everyone who was meant to turn up did as planned !!"

Oh yeah just rub it in!!!

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By *ofusplusCouple
over a year ago

Limerick


"In a threesome, from what limited experience Ive had in that scenario the priorities for the lady I assume is both respect and being comfortable with the two gentlemen involved. Also everyone should be getting equal satisfaction and everyone getting the attention they want and also deserve.

Having a ‘spare tyre’ there isn’t gonna make for a great time and would diminish the very definition of a threesome if one individual was left shading there and ignored. Abviously in a cuckold scenario this is what is probably going on (I don’t know) but for this comment I assume it’s three people wanting and equally playing. (I think this applies to MMF, MFM, FFM or any other variation of those letters I have inadvertently left out)

Having read most of the comments, I have to agree with this one (and disagree with others) insofar as it's not ALL about the lady (assume that was said to get kudos). I would say it's about equal exploration/fantasies met for all three and also equal respect for all three. This is what makes for an amazing MFM in my view and limited experience. Mrs

I agree AND I disagree lol

I love being the centre of attention in a MFM and being spoilt.

That said I love pleasing, hearing the men’s pleasure, seeing it and above all making a man come

So I guess a bit of give and take there… it’s a dance really… a very erotic one… "

So you agree with me then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m very interested in being a part of a threesome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think it's always key that everyone is comfortable and at ease. Also chemistry and sex appeal always makes it so much better.

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By *eturn of Sir PumpsMan
over a year ago

outside banbridge

Had a 3sum with a couple from here super fun interested more in a mfm but wouldnt rule out a mmf if that helps anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d be very interested in MFM or MMF. I’m willing to try some Bi activities if it means fulfilling my ultimate threesome fantasy. From what I have read it’s a must that one person takes charge and even before that discuss the rules and do’s and do nots. I think threesomes could be great craic and I hope I have the opportunity to try one day. If anyone is interested I have a camper van for real discreet fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me it's all about boundaries.

Boundaries should be clearly set out before a meet, therefore communication is key. Before a meet and ideally during it. I'm mostly interested in MFM meets so the woman's pleasure and comfort takes priority

I've had several 3some experiences pre-Fab and pre-Covid. The best ones were when everything was set out beforehand and everyone knew where they stood before the fun began, so there was no awkward moments

It's usually the husband arranging things, so when organizing a meet with a couple I would have to ensure that the wife is fully onboard with what the husband wants. Several times I've had to cancel a meet when the husband says something about "surprising" her. Absolutely no way - to me it suggests there's consent issues.

So I would have to confirm that both partners are fully onboard before arranging anything.

Also, I'm not bi but I wouldn't object to himself sucking my dick...just don't ask me to reciprocate!

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By *ajRallying555Man
over a year ago

Galway .Limerick

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By *ajRallying555Man
over a year ago

Galway .Limerick

Hi. Definitely Looking For MFM. Been a while , unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d love to do it if it’s straight mmf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For me it's all about boundaries.

Boundaries should be clearly set out before a meet, therefore communication is key. Before a meet and ideally during it. I'm mostly interested in MFM meets so the woman's pleasure and comfort takes priority

I've had several 3some experiences pre-Fab and pre-Covid. The best ones were when everything was set out beforehand and everyone knew where they stood before the fun began, so there was no awkward moments

It's usually the husband arranging things, so when organizing a meet with a couple I would have to ensure that the wife is fully onboard with what the husband wants. Several times I've had to cancel a meet when the husband says something about "surprising" her. Absolutely no way - to me it suggests there's consent issues.

So I would have to confirm that both partners are fully onboard before arranging anything.

Also, I'm not bi but I wouldn't object to himself sucking my dick...just don't ask me to reciprocate! "

Yep I’m not bi either but I certainly don’t object to my cock being sucked by a man and woman at the same time

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By *tanonieMan
over a year ago

killorglin

same here making sure all parties must be comfortable and chilled out

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By *asual777Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

There is just so much romance on this thread

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By *happy2021Woman
over a year ago

Dublin


"There is just so much romance on this thread "

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By *ofusplusCouple
over a year ago

Limerick


" It's usually the husband arranging things"

As 'the wife', I really don't get that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" It's usually the husband arranging things

As 'the wife', I really don't get that "

I'm not saying it's the rule, it's just been my experience. Outside of fab anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I used to"surprise" ex my lover (never a fuck buddy!!)!! 2 out of 3 of the mfms she enjoyed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" It's usually the husband arranging things

As 'the wife', I really don't get that "

Likewise!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Male. 46 here. Citywest. Can accommodate in my own place. MFF and MFM experience. Also had one MFMMFM, that was fun

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By *uperchampMan
over a year ago

dublin


"In a threesome, from what limited experience Ive had in that scenario the priorities for the lady I assume is both respect and being comfortable with the two gentlemen involved. Also everyone should be getting equal satisfaction and everyone getting the attention they want and also deserve.

Having a ‘spare tyre’ there isn’t gonna make for a great time and would diminish the very definition of a threesome if one individual was left shading there and ignored. Abviously in a cuckold scenario this is what is probably going on (I don’t know) but for this comment I assume it’s three people wanting and equally playing. (I think this applies to MMF, MFM, FFM or any other variation of those letters I have inadvertently left out)

Having read most of the comments, I have to agree with this one (and disagree with others) insofar as it's not ALL about the lady (assume that was said to get kudos). I would say it's about equal exploration/fantasies met for all three and also equal respect for all three. This is what makes for an amazing MFM in my view and limited experience. Mrs "

Total respect has to be paid to everyone involved, it's a matter of being mannerly,polite,safe and hygienic.

Communication is the key to this.

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By *attooYouMan
over a year ago

just about northside

Okay Rosy, nice idea. Profile is dedicated to MFM. For me, its nature's way really. Therefore a MFM or mmfm is our way as men to show our appreciation for women and in fun and kinky manner. Everyone's happy

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By *ala123!!Man
over a year ago

Raheny

What about mff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How can it be so hard to find, as you say decent fellas. Some profiles are not covered in pics or unverified but do they fuck themselves over by not turning up or what? The amount of stories of men not arriving or cancelling late. What is wrong with you guys ?? "

1) Have no intention of meeting judt want the sexy chat

2) Intimated by the other guy going if he has big cock etc

3) Attached and can't get away

4) Chickens out at the last minute

5) Talked the big talk and now can't deliver

6) His granny dies there's just so many dead Granny's dying at the weekends!

Just replying to rosy on the above. I see your point. But guys come on

1 ridiculous

2 always gonna be someone bigger

3 ok I see that issue

4 what A pussy lol

5 again come on guys.

First 3 sim at 18 with an older couple and it’s always a learning experience. Stop letting the side down lads

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How can it be so hard to find, as you say decent fellas. Some profiles are not covered in pics or unverified but do they fuck themselves over by not turning up or what? The amount of stories of men not arriving or cancelling late. What is wrong with you guys ?? "

1) Have no intention of meeting judt want the sexy chat

2) Intimated by the other guy going if he has big cock etc

3) Attached and can't get away

4) Chickens out at the last minute

5) Talked the big talk and now can't deliver

6) His granny dies there's just so many dead Granny's dying at the weekends!

Just replying to rosy on the above. I see your point. But guys come on

1 ridiculous

2 always gonna be someone bigger

3 ok I see that issue

4 what A pussy lol

5 again come on guys.

First 3 sim at 18 with an older couple and it’s always a learning experience. Stop letting the side down lads "

Neverleavingagain is right in what he's said!!! Too many time wasters!!! A simple yes or no answer is all is needed!!. Not what's she like? Any pictures? What does she do? All shit questions and then they can't make it!! Plus I do think it's a lot better when the lady involved does the arranging???

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

Except he thinks that if a man doesn't show he's letting the side down

He's not..he's letting who ever he was meant to meet down

If I'm not getting praised for being on the side of all the men getting the ride then I'm not being let down when a man doesnt show

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me it's all about connecting and being open about it so when things get hot and steamy everyone is comfortable with eachother.

I'm interested in both MFM/MFF.

And I subscribe to the idea that more practice is the key to success - or multiple orgasm in this case

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fact that’s it’s being said “can’t find decent men for a three some” means we are being thrown in together so i stand by the letting the side down comment.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The fact that’s it’s being said “can’t find decent men for a three some” means we are being thrown in together so i stand by the letting the side down comment. "

You'll see the same guys meeting for MFM and MMF as they are so reliable and word gets around how dependable they are. So the flaky ones makes their lives easier as it really makes them stand out what gems they are

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By *iego100Man
over a year ago

idaho

Do love a mmf …

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The fact that’s it’s being said “can’t find decent men for a three some” means we are being thrown in together so i stand by the letting the side down comment.

You'll see the same guys meeting for MFM and MMF as they are so reliable and word gets around how dependable they are. So the flaky ones makes their lives easier as it really makes them stand out what gems they are "

Well now, that’s a better way to look at it. Just prove your worth so. I like it

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By *shoreMan
over a year ago

cork

Still looking for that mfm 3 sum.... Its turning into a quest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am assuming there will be a 'third rule'............it cannot be a threesome club without three rules. The holy trinity. Amen!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Make the same effort as us and respect the dynamics of couples with understanding of what it takes for us to welcome another person into something that's very intimate will be reciprocated. This will go a very long way fellas

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By *avan5Man
over a year ago

cavan

I had mff threesome and it was a disaster. It wasn’t planned, it just kinda happened and a few drinks.

All I can say is, if the ladies are not bi-sexual, don’t even bother. On that night the ladies were not into each other and it ended up that one was waiting for me to finish fucking the other, so she could have a turn. Not my best threesome but I didn’t loose faith, the next one was great

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By *shoreMan
over a year ago

cork

Well my experience was not great.. Mfm.. The guy was all talk and eager to get going then would not get undressed or take part... Its ruined the whole evening as it was planned to be all for her.... All I can say is if your going to go for this be very sure its what you want before getting to the bedroom...

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By *loki_38Man
over a year ago

Rural

Lucky enough to experience both. Might sound strange coming from a bloke but i prefer MMF. Maybe its the dom side in me. Awkward conversation, but setting out the ground rules and whats on the cards before the meet always helps. Especially if its a new couple.

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By *rue lies 75400Man
over a year ago

meath

Mmf is ur gay ? Mfm? Not judging

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By *errardNo8Man
over a year ago

Galway/Mayo

Never had 1 but its one of the reasons why I actually joined fab.

So im delighted to have wandered upon this topic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mmf is ur gay ? Mfm? Not judging "

Ahhh...not quite!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Mmf is ur gay ? Mfm? Not judging "

You can be bicurious or bisexual or in some cases be straight and then in the heat of the moment decide to explore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mmf is ur gay ? Mfm? Not judging

You can be bicurious or bisexual or in some cases be straight and then in the heat of the moment decide to explore. "

Yup it happens

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By *outheast adventureMan
over a year ago

Waterford

Great part of the forum.

Can accom next week in Waterford if there is a couple or a group of singles interested x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have had 3some where guy sucks me off with the girl (awesome)..I reckon I'm just sexual.

I love women but don't mind if a guy wants to play with me.

Respectful guys with the lady calling the shots should be very achievable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks @roseyred for the thread, very helpful and informative.

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

I'm in as long as the other fella is game for an Eiffel Tower

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm in as long as the other fella is game for an Eiffel Tower "

You have the hand up already for the high five!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have had 3some where guy sucks me off with the girl (awesome)..I reckon I'm just sexual.

I love women but don't mind if a guy wants to play with me.

Respectful guys with the lady calling the shots should be very achievable "

"I reckon I'm just sexual" I can identify with this

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By *shoreMan
over a year ago

cork

Go with the monent... Always have a safe word...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Go with the monent... Always have a safe word... "

My safeword is Meatloaf

......because I would do anything for love but I won't do that no I won't do that

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By *errardNo8Man
over a year ago

Galway/Mayo

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout


"I'm in as long as the other fella is game for an Eiffel Tower

You have the hand up already for the high five!"

Finally, someone gets it

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout


"Go with the monent... Always have a safe word...

My safeword is Meatloaf

......because I would do anything for love but I won't do that no I won't do that "

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By *murphMan
over a year ago

drogheda


"In a threesome, from what limited experience Ive had in that scenario the priorities for the lady I assume is both respect and being comfortable with the two gentlemen involved. Also everyone should be getting equal satisfaction and everyone getting the attention they want and also deserve.

Having a ‘spare tyre’ there isn’t gonna make for a great time and would diminish the very definition of a threesome if one individual was left shading there and ignored. Abviously in a cuckold scenario this is what is probably going on (I don’t know) but for this comment I assume it’s three people wanting and equally playing. (I think this applies to MMF, MFM, FFM or any other variation of those letters I have inadvertently left out)

Having read most of the comments, I have to agree with this one (and disagree with others) insofar as it's not ALL about the lady (assume that was said to get kudos). I would say it's about equal exploration/fantasies met for all three and also equal respect for all three. This is what makes for an amazing MFM in my view and limited experience. Mrs "

I wholeheartedly agree

many on here one parthner is keen to try it but other parthner not so keen I have met couples with a view to mmf but didn’t go ahead with it because it didn’t feel that both were comfortable with it if both are not comfortable with it it isn’t fun

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By *irty_mindMan
over a year ago

in the sticks


"I have had 3some where guy sucks me off with the girl (awesome)..I reckon I'm just sexual.

I love women but don't mind if a guy wants to play with me.

Respectful guys with the lady calling the shots should be very achievable "

I would love that.

Bookings are open, haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would love to experience my first threesome always been on my bucket list

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By *eijaWoman
over a year ago

City Centre


"Mmf is ur gay ? Mfm? Not judging

You can be bicurious or bisexual or in some cases be straight and then in the heat of the moment decide to explore. "

I like to call it bendy/ hetro flexible or situationally bi

Going with the flow...

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By *asual777Man
over a year ago

i travel all over


"Mmf is ur gay ? Mfm? Not judging

You can be bicurious or bisexual or in some cases be straight and then in the heat of the moment decide to explore.

I like to call it bendy/ hetro flexible or situationally bi

Going with the flow...

"

I am dying to do the ‘can you do this and still be straight ?’thread but you know , it won’t be all that classy

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By *shoreMan
over a year ago

cork

Your not gay if you just run with the monent... Its just passion and if it feels right at the time it's right...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have had 3some where guy sucks me off with the girl (awesome)..I reckon I'm just sexual.

I love women but don't mind if a guy wants to play with me.

Respectful guys with the lady calling the shots should be very achievable

"I reckon I'm just sexual" I can identify with this

"

A common point of interest Rub, and both in Galway, must be in the water here?

Good people are most important

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