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"I've been on the subs bench twice without knowing until the new veries appeared the next day. Haven't spoken to either woman since because it was a shitty thing to do. If I commit to meeting I expect the other person to do likewise rather than a first come first served attitude. " Happened to me recently "Forgot" we had a meet arranged My arse! | |||
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"I've been on the subs bench twice without knowing until the new veries appeared the next day. Haven't spoken to either woman since because it was a shitty thing to do. If I commit to meeting I expect the other person to do likewise rather than a first come first served attitude. Happened to me recently "Forgot" we had a meet arranged My arse!" Funny that's exactly the response I got when she went quiet and I messaged to confirm. The first time it happened was a work related excuse but by that time I already knew she wouldn't be there because of her attitude and so I went home after work rather than across the city. The veri next day named the coffee shop we were to meet in. | |||
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"Im been a few times and was told more or less that I was a back up... 1. I was only offering a coffee meet and the other person was offering a bj.. 2. If I didn't want to fuck him in the car he'd know someone else who was willing to... So I was to let them know so they could decide..... " Jesus thats awful what complete wankers | |||
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"Im been a few times and was told more or less that I was a back up... 1. I was only offering a coffee meet and the other person was offering a bj.. 2. If I didn't want to fuck him in the car he'd know someone else who was willing to... So I was to let them know so they could decide..... " That’s fairly awful | |||
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"I've been on the subs bench twice without knowing until the new veries appeared the next day. Haven't spoken to either woman since because it was a shitty thing to do. If I commit to meeting I expect the other person to do likewise rather than a first come first served attitude. Happened to me recently "Forgot" we had a meet arranged My arse! Funny that's exactly the response I got when she went quiet and I messaged to confirm. The first time it happened was a work related excuse but by that time I already knew she wouldn't be there because of her attitude and so I went home after work rather than across the city. The veri next day named the coffee shop we were to meet in. " Quite similar here, except 3 times yep I'm an eejit. | |||
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"If you have freed up a day for a meet or a social , whether it’s a 1:1 or a group , do you have a subs bench ? A way to insure that last minute non-availability if person/people invited don’t lead to The event collapsing ? Are you transparent in your conversations with people about them being on the subs bench as it were ? How do they feel about this ? " . Hard enough to get 1 meet, never mind a Back up. | |||
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"I've been on the subs bench twice without knowing until the new veries appeared the next day. Haven't spoken to either woman since because it was a shitty thing to do. If I commit to meeting I expect the other person to do likewise rather than a first come first served attitude. Happened to me recently "Forgot" we had a meet arranged My arse! Funny that's exactly the response I got when she went quiet and I messaged to confirm. The first time it happened was a work related excuse but by that time I already knew she wouldn't be there because of her attitude and so I went home after work rather than across the city. The veri next day named the coffee shop we were to meet in. Quite similar here, except 3 times yep I'm an eejit. " Nope...they're the eejits. | |||
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"While it must be shite finding out you’re someone’s second choice (think how I feel - I’ve not been anyone’s choice!) there is nobody on this site worth getting annoyed over. If you feel there is, you’re taking fab far too seriously…" I don't get annoyed over people, I get annoyed over crap attitudes. An attiude that says it's ok to complain publicly about being let down or ghosted or had yet another no show and to then do exactly what they accused others of doing? It's one of the reasons why I won't take part in helping unverified fabbers when well verified fabbers are capable of things like that. It's one of the reasons I remove myself from self created drama. | |||
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"Anyone has any thoughts about transparency ? I express an interest in a gathering/social , the organizer tells me I am back up/subs bench in case anyone drops out ? " I actually thought you do the exact same | |||
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"Anyone has any thoughts about transparency ? I express an interest in a gathering/social , the organizer tells me I am back up/subs bench in case anyone drops out ? I actually thought you do the exact same " Sorry I got a call Surely who ever is organising a meet its their rules...so either you agree and go on the bench or disagree and don't even tog out If you get annoyed with the offer you don't go Even Ronaldo won't start every match | |||
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"Nope it’s a shitty thing to do to someone. If you have a meet cancelled, look at that stage for a replacement. Don’t treat people like spare parts. " I’d agree with this | |||
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"While it must be shite finding out you’re someone’s second choice (think how I feel - I’ve not been anyone’s choice!) there is nobody on this site worth getting annoyed over. If you feel there is, you’re taking fab far too seriously… I don't get annoyed over people, I get annoyed over crap attitudes. An attiude that says it's ok to complain publicly about being let down or ghosted or had yet another no show and to then do exactly what they accused others of doing? It's one of the reasons why I won't take part in helping unverified fabbers when well verified fabbers are capable of things like that. It's one of the reasons I remove myself from self created drama. " I’d say you’re taking fab too seriously then. The place is full of crap attitudes, egos, spoofers, liars and people with their heads up their own holes. | |||
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"While it must be shite finding out you’re someone’s second choice (think how I feel - I’ve not been anyone’s choice!) there is nobody on this site worth getting annoyed over. If you feel there is, you’re taking fab far too seriously… I don't get annoyed over people, I get annoyed over crap attitudes. An attiude that says it's ok to complain publicly about being let down or ghosted or had yet another no show and to then do exactly what they accused others of doing? It's one of the reasons why I won't take part in helping unverified fabbers when well verified fabbers are capable of things like that. It's one of the reasons I remove myself from self created drama. I’d say you’re taking fab too seriously then. The place is full of crap attitudes, egos, spoofers, liars and people with their heads up their own holes. " I'm not actually. That's what the last line meant. It's all a tragic comedy now. | |||
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"Im been a few times and was told more or less that I was a back up... 1. I was only offering a coffee meet and the other person was offering a bj.. 2. If I didn't want to fuck him in the car he'd know someone else who was willing to... So I was to let them know so they could decide..... " Just when I think fab couldn’t shock me anymore … this is just wrong on so many levels x | |||
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"I remember when first on Fab there was a lady I was chatting too for.long time and due to distance between work and family was virtually impossible to meet had asked.many times for coffee.... then I arrange a Play meet with another fabber which meant I would be passing by her aera... so I asked if she was around the next day after meet as I would pass her aera for a coffee... she asked why you up here and I was honest because it would come up on veri why I was up her side of country... She took offence that so ya come up fuck someone and then wanna meet me, I have more class than that and then said we never meet... at time was thinking Jesus did I do something wrong... it wasn't a play meet it was just a coffee why she take offence to having a coffee all because I played with someone night before. Still don't know till this day lol " Venus | |||
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"Im not sure I've ever been a back up plan for someone but id be seriously pissed off if i was. I'd also never have a guy waiting in the wings in case i was let down. That's an insult to someone in my opinion. " Top of the queue | |||
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"Anyone wanna keep me as a plan B, fire away. Just gimme a bell if you are in need of a ride and I'll see what I can do." What if you're already plan A though? | |||
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"I remember when first on Fab there was a lady I was chatting too for.long time and due to distance between work and family was virtually impossible to meet had asked.many times for coffee.... then I arrange a Play meet with another fabber which meant I would be passing by her aera... so I asked if she was around the next day after meet as I would pass her aera for a coffee... she asked why you up here and I was honest because it would come up on veri why I was up her side of country... She took offence that so ya come up fuck someone and then wanna meet me, I have more class than that and then said we never meet... at time was thinking Jesus did I do something wrong... it wasn't a play meet it was just a coffee why she take offence to having a coffee all because I played with someone night before. Still don't know till this day lol " A post coital coffee meet is soooo fab | |||
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"Im not sure I've ever been a back up plan for someone but id be seriously pissed off if i was. I'd also never have a guy waiting in the wings in case i was let down. That's an insult to someone in my opinion. " | |||
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"I've been on the subs bench twice without knowing until the new veries appeared the next day. Haven't spoken to either woman since because it was a shitty thing to do. If I commit to meeting I expect the other person to do likewise rather than a first come first served attitude. Happened to me recently "Forgot" we had a meet arranged My arse! Funny that's exactly the response I got when she went quiet and I messaged to confirm. The first time it happened was a work related excuse but by that time I already knew she wouldn't be there because of her attitude and so I went home after work rather than across the city. The veri next day named the coffee shop we were to meet in. Quite similar here, except 3 times yep I'm an eejit. " They are the idiots , however I have been let down twice by the same person years apart And the second time I acknowledge that I was partly to blame for clearly coming across as a walk over So since then the new motto is no second chances ! | |||
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"If you have freed up a day for a meet or a social , whether it’s a 1:1 or a group , do you have a subs bench ? A way to insure that last minute non-availability if person/people invited don’t lead to The event collapsing ? Are you transparent in your conversations with people about them being on the subs bench as it were ? How do they feel about this ? " I was speaking to a lady here once who told me that a guy she had been with started texting his next meet with her still in the room ,she went ballistic and said it was a total lack of respect, not the same as being on the subs bench but maybe she felt he had either her or the other lady on the subs bench and was heading there straight away but l just said " isn't that what the jist of being in this joint is about ".. | |||
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"I remember when first on Fab there was a lady I was chatting too for.long time and due to distance between work and family was virtually impossible to meet had asked.many times for coffee.... then I arrange a Play meet with another fabber which meant I would be passing by her aera... so I asked if she was around the next day after meet as I would pass her aera for a coffee... she asked why you up here and I was honest because it would come up on veri why I was up her side of country... She took offence that so ya come up fuck someone and then wanna meet me, I have more class than that and then said we never meet... at time was thinking Jesus did I do something wrong... it wasn't a play meet it was just a coffee why she take offence to having a coffee all because I played with someone night before. Still don't know till this day lol " Your answer should've been you're in the area to meet her that you travelled to show her you were genuine , just tell the lady you met the day before that you didn't want a Veri or leave it a few days and then post it ..IF you wanted or needed it to get a Veri, yes l get it you were honest in your answer to her but there are ladies on here that would make absolutely no issue of doing it and if they wanted to fuck both days with different people..why should they ?... | |||
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"If you have freed up a day for a meet or a social , whether it’s a 1:1 or a group , do you have a subs bench ? A way to insure that last minute non-availability if person/people invited don’t lead to The event collapsing ? Are you transparent in your conversations with people about them being on the subs bench as it were ? How do they feel about this ? I was speaking to a lady here once who told me that a guy she had been with started texting his next meet with her still in the room ,she went ballistic and said it was a total lack of respect, not the same as being on the subs bench but maybe she felt he had either her or the other lady on the subs bench and was heading there straight away but l just said " isn't that what the jist of being in this joint is about ".." I had an occasion here years ago when I met a guy for a social drink. While we were chatting he was also on fab answering mails. Now i had taken time and effort to go and meet him, if someone cant give me their full attention, whether it be for an hour or for a night, ive no desire to make any effort for them and i make no apologies for it. | |||
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"I remember when first on Fab there was a lady I was chatting too for.long time and due to distance between work and family was virtually impossible to meet had asked.many times for coffee.... then I arrange a Play meet with another fabber which meant I would be passing by her aera... so I asked if she was around the next day after meet as I would pass her aera for a coffee... she asked why you up here and I was honest because it would come up on veri why I was up her side of country... She took offence that so ya come up fuck someone and then wanna meet me, I have more class than that and then said we never meet... at time was thinking Jesus did I do something wrong... it wasn't a play meet it was just a coffee why she take offence to having a coffee all because I played with someone night before. Still don't know till this day lol Your answer should've been you're in the area to meet her that you travelled to show her you were genuine , just tell the lady you met the day before that you didn't want a Veri or leave it a few days and then post it ..IF you wanted or needed it to get a Veri, yes l get it you were honest in your answer to her but there are ladies on here that would make absolutely no issue of doing it and if they wanted to fuck both days with different people..why should they ?..." BUT ..that scenario is NOT the way l work .. RESPECT is key always ..l was just making the point that if someone wants to go about their business here they do so without giving a rat's ass about what anyone else thinks.. | |||
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"If you have freed up a day for a meet or a social , whether it’s a 1:1 or a group , do you have a subs bench ? A way to insure that last minute non-availability if person/people invited don’t lead to The event collapsing ? Are you transparent in your conversations with people about them being on the subs bench as it were ? How do they feel about this ? " If I have a meet planned I wouldn't have someone else waiting in the wings just incase the first lady didn't show. I'd be lucky enough to get the first lady to agree to a meet never mind two now if that lady had someone else waiting just incase I didn't show up I have no problem with that what so ever | |||
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"I remember as a single lady here I arranged a play meet with someone who I met at an event and had great chemistry with. Booked a hotel room, got myself ready and then that afternoon got the message. Apparently had a match to coach or something. Veris went up the next day that he was at a threesome. Luckily I had a longterm meet who was free to join that night so it wasn't wasted. If you can't commit to plans then simply don't meet. " Not defending him for a second , and he sounds like a twat , but There are some who Find a larger meets preferable , not to notch up posts , but to avoid any risks of an emotional attachment | |||
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"I remember as a single lady here I arranged a play meet with someone who I met at an event and had great chemistry with. Booked a hotel room, got myself ready and then that afternoon got the message. Apparently had a match to coach or something. Veris went up the next day that he was at a threesome. Luckily I had a longterm meet who was free to join that night so it wasn't wasted. If you can't commit to plans then simply don't meet. Not defending him for a second , and he sounds like a twat , but There are some who Find a larger meets preferable , not to notch up posts , but to avoid any risks of an emotional attachment " Then they should only be arranging group meets | |||
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"I remember as a single lady here I arranged a play meet with someone who I met at an event and had great chemistry with. Booked a hotel room, got myself ready and then that afternoon got the message. Apparently had a match to coach or something. Veris went up the next day that he was at a threesome. Luckily I had a longterm meet who was free to join that night so it wasn't wasted. If you can't commit to plans then simply don't meet. Not defending him for a second , and he sounds like a twat , but There are some who Find a larger meets preferable , not to notch up posts , but to avoid any risks of an emotional attachment Then they should only be arranging group meets " I have to agree. You don't arrange unless willing to go through and to make up a bull excuse shows the type of person. If he had of said he had another meet before then I wouldnt have been as annoyed. | |||
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"I remember as a single lady here I arranged a play meet with someone who I met at an event and had great chemistry with. Booked a hotel room, got myself ready and then that afternoon got the message. Apparently had a match to coach or something. Veris went up the next day that he was at a threesome. Luckily I had a longterm meet who was free to join that night so it wasn't wasted. If you can't commit to plans then simply don't meet. Not defending him for a second , and he sounds like a twat , but There are some who Find a larger meets preferable , not to notch up posts , but to avoid any risks of an emotional attachment Then they should only be arranging group meets I have to agree. You don't arrange unless willing to go through and to make up a bull excuse shows the type of person. If he had of said he had another meet before then I wouldnt have been as annoyed. " Oh yes that’s exactly what he ought to have done And he is a twat And you shouldn’t arrange anything before you know what you want I just wonder if it wasn’t 2 is better than 1 though , just that 1 is scarier than 2 | |||
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"If you have freed up a day for a meet or a social , whether it’s a 1:1 or a group , do you have a subs bench ? A way to insure that last minute non-availability if person/people invited don’t lead to The event collapsing ? Are you transparent in your conversations with people about them being on the subs bench as it were ? How do they feel about this ? " Me personally, No. But I can see why people would. People have normal and busy personal lives and sometimes have to cancel. It's seriously frustrating haha | |||
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"My meets turn up so no need to have a standby, besides wouldn't be my style. Pretty stupid to pop a veri shortly after meet that gives away your double line up, though tells you a lot about the person..." There's a certain level of arrogance about it too. Look at how popular I am. | |||
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"My meets turn up so no need to have a standby, besides wouldn't be my style. Pretty stupid to pop a veri shortly after meet that gives away your double line up, though tells you a lot about the person... There's a certain level of arrogance about it too. Look at how popular I am. " Of course, and the combo of arrogance and ignorance is one of the worst. With a bit of fab experience it can be easily enough spotted though, before even contemplating a meet. | |||
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"My meets turn up so no need to have a standby, besides wouldn't be my style. Pretty stupid to pop a veri shortly after meet that gives away your double line up, though tells you a lot about the person... There's a certain level of arrogance about it too. Look at how popular I am. Of course, and the combo of arrogance and ignorance is one of the worst. With a bit of fab experience it can be easily enough spotted though, before even contemplating a meet. " Exactly. Hence why it hasn't happened since | |||
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"If you have freed up a day for a meet or a social , whether it’s a 1:1 or a group , do you have a subs bench ? A way to insure that last minute non-availability if person/people invited don’t lead to The event collapsing ? Are you transparent in your conversations with people about them being on the subs bench as it were ? How do they feel about this ? " Can't speak for group events as I haven't either organised one nor attended one. However I wouldn't knowingly take a seat on the subs bench (and if I arrange a social or meet I turn up unless there's an emergency in which case I have the respect to give as much notice as possible!) nor can I imagine asking someone to be a sub for a possible drop-out, purely because I realize how I'd feel. So if for a group meet numbers become somewhat skewed with a dropout, I'd have the tendency to say, f**k it - go with the flow depending on what the rest of the group are happy with, or cancelling the meet entirely. I certainly wouldn't have a backup planned for a one on one social/meet. I've never stood anyone up or been stood up, while on this site - or otherwise for that matter! But I have been able to read between the lines and see the signs when a social or meet is talked about and things become a little "quieter" on his side so that social/meet is unlikely to happen or be followed up on. I'll usually be quite upfront in my communication. I can understand that some people have limited time for a social or a meet and don't want it wasted. Personally I wouldn't do being a backup or asking someone to be a backup. It doesn't feel right, at all! I believe anyone asking someone to a social/meet, where that person is intended to be a backup plan for whatever reason, be honest and upfront about it, that way that person has at least the opportunity to think about whether they're happy taking on that position as the backup - otherwise you're the a**hole! | |||
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"If you have freed up a day for a meet or a social , whether it’s a 1:1 or a group , do you have a subs bench ? A way to insure that last minute non-availability if person/people invited don’t lead to The event collapsing ? Are you transparent in your conversations with people about them being on the subs bench as it were ? How do they feel about this ? Can't speak for group events as I haven't either organised one nor attended one. However I wouldn't knowingly take a seat on the subs bench (and if I arrange a social or meet I turn up unless there's an emergency in which case I have the respect to give as much notice as possible!) nor can I imagine asking someone to be a sub for a possible drop-out, purely because I realize how I'd feel. So if for a group meet numbers become somewhat skewed with a dropout, I'd have the tendency to say, f**k it - go with the flow depending on what the rest of the group are happy with, or cancelling the meet entirely. I certainly wouldn't have a backup planned for a one on one social/meet. I've never stood anyone up or been stood up, while on this site - or otherwise for that matter! But I have been able to read between the lines and see the signs when a social or meet is talked about and things become a little "quieter" on his side so that social/meet is unlikely to happen or be followed up on. I'll usually be quite upfront in my communication. I can understand that some people have limited time for a social or a meet and don't want it wasted. Personally I wouldn't do being a backup or asking someone to be a backup. It doesn't feel right, at all! I believe anyone asking someone to a social/meet, where that person is intended to be a backup plan for whatever reason, be honest and upfront about it, that way that person has at least the opportunity to think about whether they're happy taking on that position as the backup - otherwise you're the a**hole! " Yes , one of the ninja black belt skills Is the communication when you have something arranged weeks into the future. I like to write every few days to state my continued interest but don’t like coming across as too dependent . If I get winks or views from them I like to acknowledge again Doing the same . But I have experienced situations where the agreement has stagnated and been mutually terminated | |||
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"My meets turn up so no need to have a standby, besides wouldn't be my style." ^^^ This! | |||
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"My meets turn up so no need to have a standby, besides wouldn't be my style. ^^^ This!" Choose more wisely I'm hearing Thats going to be hard! | |||
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