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"I got mine and was annoyed I didn't get a badge fml " Ah jaysus they had a ton of badges down here. If you know someone getting their second vax soon get them to take a second  | |||
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"Very messed up that people are so fickle to change their views on science when offered an incentive. They obviously weren’t that concerned about the vaccine in the first place. Like those cunning gits in the blood transfusion board offering us free club milks in return for blood "We used to get pints of beer never mind club milks | |||
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"Very messed up that people are so fickle to change their views on science when offered an incentive. They obviously weren’t that concerned about the vaccine in the first place. Like those cunning gits in the blood transfusion board offering us free club milks in return for blood "Oh I used to be very jealous of the blood transfusion pencils and pens | |||
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"Very messed up that people are so fickle to change their views on science when offered an incentive. They obviously weren’t that concerned about the vaccine in the first place. Like those cunning gits in the blood transfusion board offering us free club milks in return for blood
Oh I used to be very jealous of the blood transfusion pencils and pens"I used to enjoy a lot of second hand pride stealing them from my parents to bring to school getting my first pin/necklace for x donations was a proud moment | |||
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"I got mine and was annoyed I didn't get a badge fml " Never got a badge either | |||
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"One vaccine.. One shot.. One beer.. Got the makings of good blues song there.. "Pubs will have to start offering vaccines now a jab while you wait for your Guinness to settle | |||
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"As if death is the only bad outcome of getting the virus. "It's the only one that majority of people and govs are really caring about to be honest. | |||
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"As if death is the only bad outcome of getting the virus.
It's the only one that majority of people and govs are really caring about to be honest. "And that's a problem. | |||
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"I had covid in April 2020 and the only symptoms I experienced were a mildly irritating dry cough and an unpleasant taste in my mouth that lingered for nearly two weeks. Even though covid 19 only had a 0.5 mortality rate, this was enough to stretch the resources of most countries beyond their limits. Only the well funded Scandinavian and Germans health services has enough spare capacity to deal with the resultant spike in hospital admissions. " Careful now with the 0.5 mortality.. theres people out there and on here that believe we have had 5000 deaths from it and only the 300000 cases... | |||
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"As if death is the only bad outcome of getting the virus. "I would definitely have serious concerns about long covid, we really don't know anything about that how it could effect a significant percentage of population  | |||
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"And When did they stop rewarding women with guinness for having babies. "Never heard of that before... | |||
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"And When did they stop rewarding women with guinness for having babies.
Never heard of that before..."ah it was tongue in cheek 
but they did used to get a half pint after labour, for the iron apparently!! | |||
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"And When did they stop rewarding women with guinness for having babies.
Never heard of that before...
ah it was tongue in cheek
but they did used to get a half pint after labour, for the iron apparently!!"I was thinking for the iron...is there anything that stuff couldn't sort out | |||
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"A death rate of 0.05% is 1/200 of the population. Imagine if 1 out of every 200 cans of Coke or loafs of bread or trips in a car caused somebody to die. " Jesus scaremongering at its best.... our national death rate is 0.64% per year and its been that for least last five years and will still be same over next few years also our Avg Life Expectancy actually increased by 13% last year. | |||
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"A death rate of 0.05% is 1/200 of the population. Imagine if 1 out of every 200 cans of Coke or loafs of bread or trips in a car caused somebody to die. " Your maths are out by a good bit.0.5% would be 1 in 200, you forgot the other decimal place,it's 0.05%.Shall I let you figure it out? | |||
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"With respect at this end I hope you'll take the apology offered. It was just that for so long a significant amount of the deniers were trotting out an unsubstantiated and uncredited figure circa 99.5% and not this new unsubstantiated one of 99.95. My bad "What's the population of.world 7.9 billion ( going by world facts) total recored deaths 4.2million (facts from WHO) 4.2million / 7.9Billion = 0.0005 Now times that by 100 for % Comes to 0.05% Did I make this fact up or have I used proper stats given out in public | |||
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"Very messed up that people are so fickle to change their views on science when offered an incentive. They obviously weren’t that concerned about the vaccine in the first place. Like those cunning gits in the blood transfusion board offering us free club milks in return for blood "I used to go with my Mum - just for the food afterwards.. | |||
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"Discussing the death rate and the impact of Covid while ignoring the lockdowns seems very stupid. " Virtually nearly every person in the world did not follow the guidelines and quickly amended laws 100% in relation to Covid throughout all lockdown. So no-one has the moral high ground... IMO don't have to agree but this is now going to be treated as Flu There will be variants from now to end of time... these variants will get more spreadable but will be weaker and every year their will be a new booster shot to take. Say People will still wear masks,say people will increase their hygiene habits, say people will ask to work from home now and say there will people who will expect 2m at all times from them in public but also expect the exact opposite as well from people. At what point do we start living again and not get made to feel we are reason deaths happen in the world | |||
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"Discussing the death rate and the impact of Covid while ignoring the lockdowns seems very stupid. Virtually nearly every person in the world did not follow the guidelines and quickly amended laws 100% in relation to Covid throughout all lockdown. So no-one has the moral high ground... IMO don't have to agree but this is now going to be treated as Flu There will be variants from now to end of time... these variants will get more spreadable but will be weaker and every year their will be a new booster shot to take. Say People will still wear masks,say people will increase their hygiene habits, say people will ask to work from home now and say there will people who will expect 2m at all times from them in public but also expect the exact opposite as well from people. At what point do we start living again and not get made to feel we are reason deaths happen in the world " Well you can't shift the goalposts really. If you're argument is that we should open because the death rate is low and the low death rate is a justification for a lockdown then the lockdown is what helped achieve the low death rate. However if your argument is that we should open everything up because you want to get back to normal life and you are happy for older and less health people to die as a trade off then just say that. | |||
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"Discussing the death rate and the impact of Covid while ignoring the lockdowns seems very stupid. Virtually nearly every person in the world did not follow the guidelines and quickly amended laws 100% in relation to Covid throughout all lockdown. So no-one has the moral high ground... IMO don't have to agree but this is now going to be treated as Flu There will be variants from now to end of time... these variants will get more spreadable but will be weaker and every year their will be a new booster shot to take. Say People will still wear masks,say people will increase their hygiene habits, say people will ask to work from home now and say there will people who will expect 2m at all times from them in public but also expect the exact opposite as well from people. At what point do we start living again and not get made to feel we are reason deaths happen in the world Well you can't shift the goalposts really. If you're argument is that we should open because the death rate is low and the low death rate is a justification for a lockdown then the lockdown is what helped achieve the low death rate. However if your argument is that we should open everything up because you want to get back to normal life and you are happy for older and less health people to die as a trade off then just say that. "The feckin government are saying the exact same thing when they opened up after lockdown they decided that number of deaths was unavoidable so why is my opinion any different as there's deaths are unavoidable either way....... | |||
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"With respect at this end I hope you'll take the apology offered. It was just that for so long a significant amount of the deniers were trotting out an unsubstantiated and uncredited figure circa 99.5% and not this new unsubstantiated one of 99.95. My bad
What's the population of.world 7.9 billion ( going by world facts) total recored deaths 4.2million (facts from WHO)
4.2million / 7.9Billion
= 0.0005
Now times that by 100 for %
Comes to 0.05%
Did I make this fact up or have I used proper stats given out in public "Never posted here before so sorry if this comes out wrong. you’ve just assumed the entire population of the world has had COVID to make this calculation and to arrive at your heavily diluted death rate. Only around just under a billion or so worldwide have had COVID, not 7.9billion, which gives a resulting death rate of about 8 times what you’ve estimated here, about 0.42 or so | |||
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"With respect at this end I hope you'll take the apology offered. It was just that for so long a significant amount of the deniers were trotting out an unsubstantiated and uncredited figure circa 99.5% and not this new unsubstantiated one of 99.95. My bad
What's the population of.world 7.9 billion ( going by world facts) total recored deaths 4.2million (facts from WHO)
4.2million / 7.9Billion
= 0.0005
Now times that by 100 for %
Comes to 0.05%
Did I make this fact up or have I used proper stats given out in public
Never posted here before so sorry if this comes out wrong.
you’ve just assumed the entire population of the world has had COVID to make this calculation and to arrive at your heavily diluted death rate.
Only around just under a billion or so worldwide have had COVID, not 7.9billion, which gives a resulting death rate of about 8 times what you’ve estimated here, about 0.42 or so"Your assuming people who haven't been tested haven't had covid .... for.such a transmissible disease that was around before 2020... so.your estimate of only 1 billion people having it its underestimating and guessing as well... | |||
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"With respect at this end I hope you'll take the apology offered. It was just that for so long a significant amount of the deniers were trotting out an unsubstantiated and uncredited figure circa 99.5% and not this new unsubstantiated one of 99.95. My bad
What's the population of.world 7.9 billion ( going by world facts) total recored deaths 4.2million (facts from WHO)
4.2million / 7.9Billion
= 0.0005
Now times that by 100 for %
Comes to 0.05%
Did I make this fact up or have I used proper stats given out in public
Never posted here before so sorry if this comes out wrong.
you’ve just assumed the entire population of the world has had COVID to make this calculation and to arrive at your heavily diluted death rate.
Only around just under a billion or so worldwide have had COVID, not 7.9billion, which gives a resulting death rate of about 8 times what you’ve estimated here, about 0.42 or so
Your assuming people who haven't been tested haven't had covid .... for.such a transmissible disease that was around before 2020... so.your estimate of only 1 billion people having it its underestimating and guessing as well... "Lets call it an even 100 +/- a clatter | |||
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"With respect at this end I hope you'll take the apology offered. It was just that for so long a significant amount of the deniers were trotting out an unsubstantiated and uncredited figure circa 99.5% and not this new unsubstantiated one of 99.95. My bad
What's the population of.world 7.9 billion ( going by world facts) total recored deaths 4.2million (facts from WHO)
4.2million / 7.9Billion
= 0.0005
Now times that by 100 for %
Comes to 0.05%
Did I make this fact up or have I used proper stats given out in public
Never posted here before so sorry if this comes out wrong.
you’ve just assumed the entire population of the world has had COVID to make this calculation and to arrive at your heavily diluted death rate.
Only around just under a billion or so worldwide have had COVID, not 7.9billion, which gives a resulting death rate of about 8 times what you’ve estimated here, about 0.42 or so
Your assuming people who haven't been tested haven't had covid .... for.such a transmissible disease that was around before 2020... so.your estimate of only 1 billion people having it its underestimating and guessing as well...
Lets call it an even 100 +/- a clatter"Anyone else feel like running face first into a wall? | |||
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"With respect at this end I hope you'll take the apology offered. It was just that for so long a significant amount of the deniers were trotting out an unsubstantiated and uncredited figure circa 99.5% and not this new unsubstantiated one of 99.95. My bad
What's the population of.world 7.9 billion ( going by world facts) total recored deaths 4.2million (facts from WHO)
4.2million / 7.9Billion
= 0.0005
Now times that by 100 for %
Comes to 0.05%
Did I make this fact up or have I used proper stats given out in public
Never posted here before so sorry if this comes out wrong.
you’ve just assumed the entire population of the world has had COVID to make this calculation and to arrive at your heavily diluted death rate.
Only around just under a billion or so worldwide have had COVID, not 7.9billion, which gives a resulting death rate of about 8 times what you’ve estimated here, about 0.42 or so
Your assuming people who haven't been tested haven't had covid .... for.such a transmissible disease that was around before 2020... so.your estimate of only 1 billion people having it its underestimating and guessing as well... "That’s possibly true that the actual figure might be higher but not very likely to be 8 times higher as you’re suggesting, even if we double the currently accepted worldwide figure, (that’s adding 1billion cases btw) it would still makes the death rate 4 times what you’re suggesting. Also there’ll be deaths in underdeveloped countries and even in countries at the start of the pandemic that will have been due to COVID and not recorded, you don’t account for this either | |||
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" The feckin government are saying the exact same thing when they opened up after lockdown they decided that number of deaths was unavoidable so why is my opinion any different as there's deaths are unavoidable either way....... " Still not really sure what your fully trying to get at tbh. Vacaaines are not necessary, things should be more open. Bit unsure. The hospitalisations rate, and subsequently the death rate have both been important measures and necessary ones to use to make decisions. Death rates have dropped with the vaccaine uptake. However hospitalisations rates can still be an issues among younger people, and that's another issue that could cause problems if it gets out of control. Hence the importance of the vacaine and limiting the spread of the virus. | |||
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" The feckin government are saying the exact same thing when they opened up after lockdown they decided that number of deaths was unavoidable so why is my opinion any different as there's deaths are unavoidable either way....... Still not really sure what your fully trying to get at tbh. Vacaaines are not necessary, things should be more open. Bit unsure. The hospitalisations rate, and subsequently the death rate have both been important measures and necessary ones to use to make decisions. Death rates have dropped with the vaccaine uptake. However hospitalisations rates can still be an issues among younger people, and that's another issue that could cause problems if it gets out of control. Hence the importance of the vacaine and limiting the spread of the virus. " So when is your conscious ready to stop Blaming people going out as reason old and sick are dying... In yer head you have criteria that ... what is that point that you have decided unavoidable deaths and hospitalizations are going to occur but its not people going out fault anymore | |||
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"No one is answering the question At what point do people allowed to start living normally amd not be blamed for deaths of sick and elderly ... Because there will always be unavoidable deaths from Covid At what point are people's conscious ready to accept these deaths as unavoidable trade off as someone put it. Vaccine 80% of people ( this mystical herd immunity figure) 90% , 95% or 100% ???? Or we should stay in lockdown forever cause going out means ya are reason people are dying... " I’m gonna guess it will be when the new daily case load is at a low enough figure that it won’t overwhelm the health service when we go totally back to normal. I’m not quite understanding what you’re talking about, are people in the south not allowed back into pubs and restaurants this week? We’re all not far off being back to normal already really There will most likely be many more deaths from COVID but the point of lockdown was to not have avoidable deaths, which is what has been achieved I get that you’re annoyed about the last year or so, and everyone is fed up at this stage but misquoting figures and waxing lyrical about our current pseudo-dystopian society will not fix the problem | |||
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"So when is your conscious ready to stop Blaming people going out as reason old and sick are dying... In yer head you have criteria that ... what is that point that you have decided unavoidable deaths and hospitalizations are going to occur but its not people going out fault anymore " Actions have consequences. People need to accept that. If people don't want to get a vacaaines, don't want to wear masks, don't want to social distance then they need to accept those actions can, and do, have consequences to other people. I don't understand why you point blank refuse to accept those facts though. | |||
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"No one is answering the question At what point do people allowed to start living normally amd not be blamed for deaths of sick and elderly ... Because there will always be unavoidable deaths from Covid At what point are people's conscious ready to accept these deaths as unavoidable trade off as someone put it. Vaccine 80% of people ( this mystical herd immunity figure) 90% , 95% or 100% ???? Or we should stay in lockdown forever cause going out means ya are reason people are dying... I’m gonna guess it will be when the new daily case load is at a low enough figure that it won’t overwhelm the health service when we go totally back to normal. I’m not quite understanding what you’re talking about, are people in the south not allowed back into pubs and restaurants this week? We’re all not far off being back to normal already really There will most likely be many more deaths from COVID but the point of lockdown was to not have avoidable deaths, which is what has been achieved I get that you’re annoyed about the last year or so, and everyone is fed up at this stage but misquoting figures and waxing lyrical about our current pseudo-dystopian society will not fix the problem " First lockdown was using government words... to protect health service and give time to help improve services so to cope with future outbreaks while also delaying spread savin lives...fully agreed with approach and all country was behind it Few lockdowns later health service not even close to be able cope with any major outbreak , government started playing Russian roulette in implementations of guidelines causing division in people and what ya get now is a blame game. We have been scaremongered with facts... my knowledge is public information out there not made up, like from wikipedia states global population lost to Covid is 0.05 to 0.1% , yearly death rate hasn't changed Ireland substantially from 2014 was 0.63% then 2020 0.64% that's from Ireland own CSO... Avg Life Expectancy in Ireland increased by 13% last year again Ireland own CSO... Enough is Enough with the bloody blame game and now unethical division of vaccinated or unvaccinated in what someone can do or not do... either close everything down until this mystical figure of acceptance is achieved or open everything up. | |||
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"So when is your conscious ready to stop Blaming people going out as reason old and sick are dying... In yer head you have criteria that ... what is that point that you have decided unavoidable deaths and hospitalizations are going to occur but its not people going out fault anymore Actions have consequences. People need to accept that. If people don't want to get a vacaaines, don't want to wear masks, don't want to social distance then they need to accept those actions can, and do, have consequences to other people. I don't understand why you point blank refuse to accept those facts though. " I dont understand why twice I have asked you when is your conscious ready to stop blaming people going out for deaths. When are ya ready to.end this bloody blame game for.something a virus person has no 100% control of | |||
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" I dont understand why twice I have asked you when is your conscious ready to stop blaming people going out for deaths. When are ya ready to.end this bloody blame game for.something a virus person has no 100% control of " You can ask a third time and see how you get on. actions have consequences. If you take actions that increase the likelyhood of spreading a virus when will you accept that has consequences? | |||
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" I dont understand why twice I have asked you when is your conscious ready to stop blaming people going out for deaths. When are ya ready to.end this bloody blame game for.something a virus person has no 100% control of You can ask a third time and see how you get on. actions have consequences. If you take actions that increase the likelyhood of spreading a virus when will you accept that has consequences? "Everything we decide to do has consequences, like getting in a car is technically a dangerous weapon that can kill, should I feel guilty that I possibly might kill someone today because of my actions so i shouldnt drive at all. Think people are aware of actions but this isn't a risk free world anything we do might come as a risk... if you were asked if you there is 99.9% chance your actions won't affect anyone... would you not do it | |||
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" I dont understand why twice I have asked you when is your conscious ready to stop blaming people going out for deaths. When are ya ready to.end this bloody blame game for.something a virus person has no 100% control of You can ask a third time and see how you get on. actions have consequences. If you take actions that increase the likelyhood of spreading a virus when will you accept that has consequences?
Everything we decide to do has consequences, like getting in a car is technically a dangerous weapon that can kill, should I feel guilty that I possibly might kill someone today because of my actions so i shouldnt drive at all.
Think people are aware of actions but this isn't a risk free world anything we do might come as a risk...
if you were asked if you there is 99.9% chance your actions won't affect anyone... would you not do it
"If you get into a car d*unk or broke the speed limit while in your car and killed someone the would be to blame. You might never haven intended to kill someone but clearly your actions increased the likelyhood of that happening so you are to blame. Are you going gto try and argue that people should be allowed drink and drive now or drive as fast as they feel like? The reality is, that anyone who ignored guidelines and did it recklessly then they are very likely to responsible for people dying. That's just a fact. | |||
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" I dont understand why twice I have asked you when is your conscious ready to stop blaming people going out for deaths. When are ya ready to.end this bloody blame game for.something a virus person has no 100% control of You can ask a third time and see how you get on. actions have consequences. If you take actions that increase the likelyhood of spreading a virus when will you accept that has consequences?
Everything we decide to do has consequences, like getting in a car is technically a dangerous weapon that can kill, should I feel guilty that I possibly might kill someone today because of my actions so i shouldnt drive at all.
Think people are aware of actions but this isn't a risk free world anything we do might come as a risk...
if you were asked if you there is 99.9% chance your actions won't affect anyone... would you not do it
If you get into a car d*unk or broke the speed limit while in your car and killed someone the would be to blame. You might never haven intended to kill someone but clearly your actions increased the likelyhood of that happening so you are to blame.
Are you going gto try and argue that people should be allowed drink and drive now or drive as fast as they feel like?
The reality is, that anyone who ignored guidelines and did it recklessly then they are very likely to responsible for people dying. That's just a fact. "Now your statin laws with d&d etc you break a law then clearly you are.to blame and accept Consequences for your choices not condoning anything like that. So it's the reckless breaking guidelines people to blame but not the people who occasionally broke guidelines those don't get blamed for.deaths | |||
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"This is what pisses me off the people who have followed ,this blaming people for other peoples death for a Virus that no one will ever have control of, retric... its sick tbh " Then stop making threads about the stupid thing. We all know where everyone else stands on it at this stage. I'm not sure why anyone would start a covid thread these days other than looking for an argument | |||
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" Now your statin laws with d&d etc you break a law then clearly you are.to blame and accept Consequences for your choices not condoning anything like that. So it's the reckless breaking guidelines people to blame but not the people who occasionally broke guidelines those don't get blamed for.deaths " Laws were established for Covid, hence the reason people could be fined and prosecuted. So you agree that people who broke those Covid laws are to blame then? Well it depends on the details of how they did it, and how occasional they did it. | |||
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"This is what pisses me off the people who have followed ,this blaming people for other peoples death for a Virus that no one will ever have control of, retric... its sick tbh Then stop making threads about the stupid thing. We all know where everyone else stands on it at this stage. I'm not sure why anyone would start a covid thread these days other than looking for an argument " Good point done | |||
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