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"We are just wondering what people's views are on this, as the swinging world is a world for open minded people but we're curious to see what other people think" Open minded? You're having a laugh! 
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"Ah god not this again "It's an honest question as we see that clubs and group meet are starting to happen. Just curious are we going to have a two tier society, if you don't like the thread we ain't forcing you to comment | |||
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"Somebody distract me quick "Maybe someone my pop a surprise pic in your inbox | |||
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"I don’t think the vaccinated/unvaccinated issue gives rise to a two tier society since everyone is equally entitled to avail of it. It would be a problem if it was means tested or only available to certain classes of individuals. After that everyone is free to make their own personal choice and as is right those choices have repercussions/consequences. "This.  | |||
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"I don’t think the vaccinated/unvaccinated issue gives rise to a two tier society since everyone is equally entitled to avail of it. It would be a problem if it was means tested or only available to certain classes of individuals. After that everyone is free to make their own personal choice and as is right those choices have repercussions/consequences.
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"I don’t think the vaccinated/unvaccinated issue gives rise to a two tier society since everyone is equally entitled to avail of it. It would be a problem if it was means tested or only available to certain classes of individuals. After that everyone is free to make their own personal choice and as is right those choices have repercussions/consequences. "I would have to disagree a little as we can see that events that are be organised now are only for vaccinated people, just like indoor dinning etc, and I get your point it's everyone own choice to either take or not take a vaccine but if you don't opt to take it then we can see we have restrictions in place. Now on the other side if you are vaccinated what difference would it make to with been in the same room as someone who isn't. And let's not argue its just a discussion. | |||
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"I don’t think the vaccinated/unvaccinated issue gives rise to a two tier society since everyone is equally entitled to avail of it. It would be a problem if it was means tested or only available to certain classes of individuals. After that everyone is free to make their own personal choice and as is right those choices have repercussions/consequences.
I would have to disagree a little as we can see that events that are be organised now are only for vaccinated people, just like indoor dinning etc, and I get your point it's everyone own choice to either take or not take a vaccine but if you don't opt to take it then we can see we have restrictions in place. Now on the other side if you are vaccinated what difference would it make to with been in the same room as someone who isn't. And let's not argue its just a discussion."The vaccaine isn't 100% effective so there is still a risk of catching it and hanging around with unvaccinated people unnecessarily increases that risk. | |||
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"Somebody distract me quick "There's a crocodile behind you!!!!! | |||
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"Had a lovely indoors meal (in a restaurant) yesterday, nice to be back "Oh excellent..what did you have?  | |||
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"I don’t think the vaccinated/unvaccinated issue gives rise to a two tier society since everyone is equally entitled to avail of it. It would be a problem if it was means tested or only available to certain classes of individuals. After that everyone is free to make their own personal choice and as is right those choices have repercussions/consequences.
I would have to disagree a little as we can see that events that are be organised now are only for vaccinated people, just like indoor dinning etc, and I get your point it's everyone own choice to either take or not take a vaccine but if you don't opt to take it then we can see we have restrictions in place. Now on the other side if you are vaccinated what difference would it make to with been in the same room as someone who isn't. And let's not argue its just a discussion."My son is a super healthy rugby playing 19 yr old who is getting vaccinated Friday..he signed up the minute it was available to protect his grandparents who he is moving in with to attend college ..his words not mine and also he takes the possibility of long covid very seriously | |||
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"It's seems to be a thing on here now as well. Are we living in a two tier society today?" I don't especially agree with restrictions based on vaccination status, but if people aren't willing to be vaccinated they at a minimum have to wait until those who are have had the opportunity to get it to raise the % to a level where everyone is protected. I agree that getting the vaccine is a choice but you can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're not part of the solution... | |||
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"It's seems to be a thing on here now as well. Are we living in a two tier society today? I don't especially agree with restrictions based on vaccination status, but if people aren't willing to be vaccinated they at a minimum have to wait until those who are have had the opportunity to get it to raise the % to a level where everyone is protected. I agree that getting the vaccine is a choice but you can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're not part of the solution... " Exactly | |||
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"I don’t think the vaccinated/unvaccinated issue gives rise to a two tier society since everyone is equally entitled to avail of it. It would be a problem if it was means tested or only available to certain classes of individuals. After that everyone is free to make their own personal choice and as is right those choices have repercussions/consequences.
I would have to disagree a little as we can see that events that are be organised now are only for vaccinated people, just like indoor dinning etc, and I get your point it's everyone own choice to either take or not take a vaccine but if you don't opt to take it then we can see we have restrictions in place. Now on the other side if you are vaccinated what difference would it make to with been in the same room as someone who isn't. And let's not argue its just a discussion.
My son is a super healthy rugby playing 19 yr old who is getting vaccinated Friday..he signed up the minute it was available to protect his grandparents who he is moving in with to attend college ..his words not mine and also he takes the possibility of long covid very seriously "Seems a Very caring and responsible young man. | |||
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"I don’t think the vaccinated/unvaccinated issue gives rise to a two tier society since everyone is equally entitled to avail of it. It would be a problem if it was means tested or only available to certain classes of individuals. After that everyone is free to make their own personal choice and as is right those choices have repercussions/consequences.
I would have to disagree a little as we can see that events that are be organised now are only for vaccinated people, just like indoor dinning etc, and I get your point it's everyone own choice to either take or not take a vaccine but if you don't opt to take it then we can see we have restrictions in place. Now on the other side if you are vaccinated what difference would it make to with been in the same room as someone who isn't. And let's not argue its just a discussion."There are safeguards in place for most things in life… for the greater good if you will, so for example you can drink yourself to oblivion but you cannot drive a car on a public road if you do. Why? Because you needlessly put others at risk by your actions. You can choose not to have the vaccine but in doing so you shouldn’t put others at risk cos you want to have dinner inside a restaurant. Life isn’t always about the individual… as a wise person once said, “no man is an island” | |||
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"I don’t think the vaccinated/unvaccinated issue gives rise to a two tier society since everyone is equally entitled to avail of it. It would be a problem if it was means tested or only available to certain classes of individuals. After that everyone is free to make their own personal choice and as is right those choices have repercussions/consequences.
I would have to disagree a little as we can see that events that are be organised now are only for vaccinated people, just like indoor dinning etc, and I get your point it's everyone own choice to either take or not take a vaccine but if you don't opt to take it then we can see we have restrictions in place. Now on the other side if you are vaccinated what difference would it make to with been in the same room as someone who isn't. And let's not argue its just a discussion.
There are safeguards in place for most things in life… for the greater good if you will, so for example you can drink yourself to oblivion but you cannot drive a car on a public road if you do. Why? Because you needlessly put others at risk by your actions. You can choose not to have the vaccine but in doing so you shouldn’t put others at risk cos you want to have dinner inside a restaurant. Life isn’t always about the individual… as a wise person once said, “no man is an island”"That is so well put fair play | |||
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"I don’t think the vaccinated/unvaccinated issue gives rise to a two tier society since everyone is equally entitled to avail of it. It would be a problem if it was means tested or only available to certain classes of individuals. After that everyone is free to make their own personal choice and as is right those choices have repercussions/consequences.
I would have to disagree a little as we can see that events that are be organised now are only for vaccinated people, just like indoor dinning etc, and I get your point it's everyone own choice to either take or not take a vaccine but if you don't opt to take it then we can see we have restrictions in place. Now on the other side if you are vaccinated what difference would it make to with been in the same room as someone who isn't. And let's not argue its just a discussion.
My son is a super healthy rugby playing 19 yr old who is getting vaccinated Friday..he signed up the minute it was available to protect his grandparents who he is moving in with to attend college ..his words not mine and also he takes the possibility of long covid very seriously
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person." But they *are* more of a risk. They are much more likely to catch and spread the virus than a vaccinated person. | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person." That statement simply isn't true. | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person." The vaccination is a choice. The issue is unvaccinated people are more likely to become seriously ill and/or hospitalised. | |||
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"(Note to self : Use profile notes section for antivaxers) " I do this in reverse for the hard line rte followers | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. The vaccination is a choice. The issue is unvaccinated people are more likely to become seriously ill and/or hospitalised. " the vast majority of younger who refuse to take it won't but I see alot of younger people who originally didn't want it are now taking it for the soul purpose of getting back inside pubs to socialise properly again. what I can't wait to see is how many are vaccinated when we're fully through the adult population and what the stipulations are then because I'd be very surprised if there was a high uptake on vaccines with children. | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. The vaccination is a choice. The issue is unvaccinated people are more likely to become seriously ill and/or hospitalised. the vast majority of younger who refuse to take it won't but I see alot of younger people who originally didn't want it are now taking it for the soul purpose of getting back inside pubs to socialise properly again. what I can't wait to see is how many are vaccinated when we're fully through the adult population and what the stipulations are then because I'd be very surprised if there was a high uptake on vaccines with children. " I'd love to see actual figures on how many who didn't want to take it are doing it now just because of the indoor dining.... | |||
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"(Note to self : Use profile notes section for antivaxers) I do this in reverse for the hard line rte followers" What about the rest of the entire planet Earth. Do you think they are sitting watching RTE at night? | |||
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"Yep not true, the only risk the unvaccinated person is..is to themselves. And its up to each person to have autonomy over their own body, so its their choice." I got vaccinated for the Mumps as a child, but i still caught the mumps as an adult. Vaccines are not 100% effective. Please refrain from spreading dangerous misinformation. Or at least take the time to at least 'try' to understand the very simple logic behind how vaccines work | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person." Wow!! | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. The vaccination is a choice. The issue is unvaccinated people are more likely to become seriously ill and/or hospitalised. " I still don't know anyone who has became seriously ill from it or died. I know lots of people who are unvaccanited and have tested poistive for covid. None serious and didn't even know they had it | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. The vaccination is a choice. The issue is unvaccinated people are more likely to become seriously ill and/or hospitalised. I still don't know anyone who has became seriously ill from it or died. I know lots of people who are unvaccanited and have tested poistive for covid. None serious and didn't even know they had it" Sure if you don't know them Nancy they mustn't exist | |||
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"It's seems to be a thing on here now as well. Are we living in a two tier society today?" We've being living in a two tier society ever before covid landed. | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. The vaccination is a choice. The issue is unvaccinated people are more likely to become seriously ill and/or hospitalised. I still don't know anyone who has became seriously ill from it or died. I know lots of people who are unvaccanited and have tested poistive for covid. None serious and didn't even know they had it" I do...u know people who got seriously ill from it and my best friends dad who ive known since i was 3 died from it...so with the greatest respect cop the fuck on | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. The vaccination is a choice. The issue is unvaccinated people are more likely to become seriously ill and/or hospitalised. I still don't know anyone who has became seriously ill from it or died. I know lots of people who are unvaccanited and have tested poistive for covid. None serious and didn't even know they had it I do...u know people who got seriously ill from it and my best friends dad who ive known since i was 3 died from it...so with the greatest respect cop the fuck on " Apologies for the typo...i know people..not u in your bubble | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. The vaccination is a choice. The issue is unvaccinated people are more likely to become seriously ill and/or hospitalised. I still don't know anyone who has became seriously ill from it or died. I know lots of people who are unvaccanited and have tested poistive for covid. None serious and didn't even know they had it Sure if you don't know them Nancy they mustn't exist "I did not say this. I am not a covid denier. I am just stating my facts. | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. The vaccination is a choice. The issue is unvaccinated people are more likely to become seriously ill and/or hospitalised. I still don't know anyone who has became seriously ill from it or died. I know lots of people who are unvaccanited and have tested poistive for covid. None serious and didn't even know they had it I do...u know people who got seriously ill from it and my best friends dad who ive known since i was 3 died from it...so with the greatest respect cop the fuck on " Can I ask you why you are using such colourful language. All I have said is I still don't know anyone who has died of it or has been seriously ill from it. I know lots of people who have tested poistive from it but haven't had any symptoms. Why would you talk to me like that for me giving my honest opinion. I'm actually shocked. | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. The vaccination is a choice. The issue is unvaccinated people are more likely to become seriously ill and/or hospitalised. I still don't know anyone who has became seriously ill from it or died. I know lots of people who are unvaccanited and have tested poistive for covid. None serious and didn't even know they had it I do...u know people who got seriously ill from it and my best friends dad who ive known since i was 3 died from it...so with the greatest respect cop the fuck on Can I ask you why you are using such colourful language. All I have said is I still don't know anyone who has died of it or has been seriously ill from it. I know lots of people who have tested poistive from it but haven't had any symptoms. Why would you talk to me like that for me giving my honest opinion. I'm actually shocked. " I assume you don't know anyone who has died from tooth decay... does this mean you don't believe in brushing your teeth either?  | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. The vaccination is a choice. The issue is unvaccinated people are more likely to become seriously ill and/or hospitalised. I still don't know anyone who has became seriously ill from it or died. I know lots of people who are unvaccanited and have tested poistive for covid. None serious and didn't even know they had it I do...u know people who got seriously ill from it and my best friends dad who ive known since i was 3 died from it...so with the greatest respect cop the fuck on Can I ask you why you are using such colourful language. All I have said is I still don't know anyone who has died of it or has been seriously ill from it. I know lots of people who have tested poistive from it but haven't had any symptoms. Why would you talk to me like that for me giving my honest opinion. I'm actually shocked. " Omg bambi u are easily shocked...my teenagers are well used to me using what i never realised was such a shocking turn of phrase..go lie down for a minute love to get over it | |||
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"I’m vaccinated and most of my family at home. Since indoor dining was announced with the wet pubs opening, what I’m amazed at was the anti Vaxers preaching no way will I have it done. But since the certs are now mandatory the amount I know trying to get the vaccine done ASAP " It's amazing what the prospect of no drink does to people  | |||
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"I’m vaccinated and most of my family at home. Since indoor dining was announced with the wet pubs opening, what I’m amazed at was the anti Vaxers preaching no way will I have it done. But since the certs are now mandatory the amount I know trying to get the vaccine done ASAP " True like all the people preaching anti vax on all the social media sites for the last year and a half and then the same people posting up pictures that they got the vaccine I think people just feel like they have to moan about something. | |||
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"It makes me uneasy to see the people divided into two groups and one has more privileges than the other. Yes you could argue that we already have a two tier system, doesn't mean we've to introduce another layer. It's perfect playground for divide and conquer tactics and ideal conditions to shift to extremes, to set precedents and to grow conspiracies. It also unnecessarily increases the tension between those two groups, the name calling has long started and it's not getting any better. You can already feel the hostile tone in some answers on here, and some read like every unvaccinated person has covid and is a super spreader or worse has the plague on top of it. I don't think it's needed or the way to go. It's a tough and lonely time and we would be better of with a strong and integrating society. Just my 2 cents. " I don’t get this “divide and conquer” comment! Surely people are being encouraged to get the vaccine as it will reduce the chance of spread/infection and severity of. It really annoys that people that want to go back to normal but they expect everyone else get the jab so they can dodge the risks it may have. Do you really think that the government is out to get you??? | |||
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"I’m vaccinated and most of my family at home. Since indoor dining was announced with the wet pubs opening, what I’m amazed at was the anti Vaxers preaching no way will I have it done. But since the certs are now mandatory the amount I know trying to get the vaccine done ASAP It's amazing what the prospect of no drink does to people "its nothing to do with no drink, it's mostly young people getting into venues with no limitations, enjoying themselves which is what they should be doing if they want to. you only live once. the bigger question Is should you have to be vaccinated to do it. thats a separate issue. | |||
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"It makes me uneasy to see the people divided into two groups and one has more privileges than the other. Yes you could argue that we already have a two tier system, doesn't mean we've to introduce another layer. It's perfect playground for divide and conquer tactics and ideal conditions to shift to extremes, to set precedents and to grow conspiracies. It also unnecessarily increases the tension between those two groups, the name calling has long started and it's not getting any better. You can already feel the hostile tone in some answers on here, and some read like every unvaccinated person has covid and is a super spreader or worse has the plague on top of it. I don't think it's needed or the way to go. It's a tough and lonely time and we would be better of with a strong and integrating society. Just my 2 cents. " I'm looking forward to seeing the day you can do stuff at free will without regulations. | |||
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"It makes me uneasy to see the people divided into two groups and one has more privileges than the other. Yes you could argue that we already have a two tier system, doesn't mean we've to introduce another layer. It's perfect playground for divide and conquer tactics and ideal conditions to shift to extremes, to set precedents and to grow conspiracies. It also unnecessarily increases the tension between those two groups, the name calling has long started and it's not getting any better. You can already feel the hostile tone in some answers on here, and some read like every unvaccinated person has covid and is a super spreader or worse has the plague on top of it. I don't think it's needed or the way to go. It's a tough and lonely time and we would be better of with a strong and integrating society. Just my 2 cents. " totally agree let's not forget all the families touched by bereavement n people still dying .no point blaming each other or government it's a world wide pandemic n we slowly but surely coming out the other side .support each other n be positive | |||
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"It makes me uneasy to see the people divided into two groups and one has more privileges than the other. Yes you could argue that we already have a two tier system, doesn't mean we've to introduce another layer. It's perfect playground for divide and conquer tactics and ideal conditions to shift to extremes, to set precedents and to grow conspiracies. It also unnecessarily increases the tension between those two groups, the name calling has long started and it's not getting any better. You can already feel the hostile tone in some answers on here, and some read like every unvaccinated person has covid and is a super spreader or worse has the plague on top of it. I don't think it's needed or the way to go. It's a tough and lonely time and we would be better of with a strong and integrating society. Just my 2 cents. I don’t get this “divide and conquer” comment! Surely people are being encouraged to get the vaccine as it will reduce the chance of spread/infection and severity of. It really annoys that people that want to go back to normal but they expect everyone else get the jab so they can dodge the risks it may have. Do you really think that the government is out to get you???" There's a difference between pressuring and encouraging, I've no problem with encouraging people to get vaccinated. The divide and conquer is a common tactic in Irish politics and often delivers a prefect screen of distraction to push other stuff on the agenda. " Do you really think that the government is out to get you???" Did I give you that impression? I only pointed out the tactics used and their negative consequences. Btw I'm fully vaccinated, yet doesn't mean that I've no understanding for those who are not able to get vaccinated, those that are more critical or cautious towards the vaccine and even those who don't want the vaccine. | |||
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"It makes me uneasy to see the people divided into two groups and one has more privileges than the other. Yes you could argue that we already have a two tier system, doesn't mean we've to introduce another layer. It's perfect playground for divide and conquer tactics and ideal conditions to shift to extremes, to set precedents and to grow conspiracies. It also unnecessarily increases the tension between those two groups, the name calling has long started and it's not getting any better. You can already feel the hostile tone in some answers on here, and some read like every unvaccinated person has covid and is a super spreader or worse has the plague on top of it. I don't think it's needed or the way to go. It's a tough and lonely time and we would be better of with a strong and integrating society. Just my 2 cents. " I don't think it's people think that unvaccinated people are super spreaders or anything like that. Well for me anyway. It's just, when people intentionally try to scare monger people from taking a vaccine, and spread misinformation, lies, and wild anecdotes. That sort of stuff grinds my gears, when people clearly haven't taken the time to try understand very simple concepts, but blab on with their insane predictions and state them as fact. | |||
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"It makes me uneasy to see the people divided into two groups and one has more privileges than the other. Yes you could argue that we already have a two tier system, doesn't mean we've to introduce another layer. It's perfect playground for divide and conquer tactics and ideal conditions to shift to extremes, to set precedents and to grow conspiracies. It also unnecessarily increases the tension between those two groups, the name calling has long started and it's not getting any better. You can already feel the hostile tone in some answers on here, and some read like every unvaccinated person has covid and is a super spreader or worse has the plague on top of it. I don't think it's needed or the way to go. It's a tough and lonely time and we would be better of with a strong and integrating society. Just my 2 cents. I don't think it's people think that unvaccinated people are super spreaders or anything like that. Well for me anyway. It's just, when people intentionally try to scare monger people from taking a vaccine, and spread misinformation, lies, and wild anecdotes. That sort of stuff grinds my gears, when people clearly haven't taken the time to try understand very simple concepts, but blab on with their insane predictions and state them as fact. " the vast majority of people down through the years who have taken a vaccine for anything from childhood to adulthood havnt a clue what goes inside their body. | |||
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"It makes me uneasy to see the people divided into two groups and one has more privileges than the other. Yes you could argue that we already have a two tier system, doesn't mean we've to introduce another layer. It's perfect playground for divide and conquer tactics and ideal conditions to shift to extremes, to set precedents and to grow conspiracies. It also unnecessarily increases the tension between those two groups, the name calling has long started and it's not getting any better. You can already feel the hostile tone in some answers on here, and some read like every unvaccinated person has covid and is a super spreader or worse has the plague on top of it. I don't think it's needed or the way to go. It's a tough and lonely time and we would be better of with a strong and integrating society. Just my 2 cents. I don't think it's people think that unvaccinated people are super spreaders or anything like that. Well for me anyway. It's just, when people intentionally try to scare monger people from taking a vaccine, and spread misinformation, lies, and wild anecdotes. That sort of stuff grinds my gears, when people clearly haven't taken the time to try understand very simple concepts, but blab on with their insane predictions and state them as fact. " | |||
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"the vast majority of people down through the years who have taken a vaccine for anything from childhood to adulthood havnt a clue what goes inside their body. " You could say the same about every medicine, sweet, processed piece of food and drink (including baby milk formula) that people happily guzzle down, doesn’t cause them a moments reflection yet mention vaccines and suddenly everyones an expert! | |||
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"the vast majority of people down through the years who have taken a vaccine for anything from childhood to adulthood havnt a clue what goes inside their body. You could say the same about every medicine, sweet, processed piece of food and drink (including baby milk formula) that people happily guzzle down, doesn’t cause them a moments reflection yet mention vaccines and suddenly everyones an expert! " exactly. | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. But they *are* more of a risk. They are much more likely to catch and spread the virus than a vaccinated person. " Say's who? | |||
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"Well.. Vaccinated ppl can still get and spread covid... Just the same as unvaccinated ppl can.. So if ppl want to get the vaccine get.. If ppl don't... Don't. Simple x" While technically that is correct, but there is a significant difference. When In contact with any virus, it will remain in your body until you eliminate it. Vaccinated,you could eliminate it instantly, or within a number of hours/days. Unvaccinated,you will have to wait at least a month while it takes over your whole body, before your immune system finally figures out how to defeat it. Meanwhile you are coughing and snottering all over the place, spreading it further. The difference is, unvaccinated you are far more contagious, and for a much longer time. | |||
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"Well.. Vaccinated ppl can still get and spread covid... Just the same as unvaccinated ppl can.. So if ppl want to get the vaccine get.. If ppl don't... Don't. Simple x While technically that is correct, but there is a significant difference. When In contact with any virus, it will remain in your body until you eliminate it. Vaccinated,you could eliminate it instantly, or within a number of hours/days. Unvaccinated,you will have to wait at least a month while it takes over your whole body, before your immune system finally figures out how to defeat it. Meanwhile you are coughing and snottering all over the place, spreading it further. The difference is, unvaccinated you are far more contagious, and for a much longer time." But this differs from something I read on the back of a box of cornflakes once so I feel like I should be outraged
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"Well.. Vaccinated ppl can still get and spread covid... Just the same as unvaccinated ppl can.. So if ppl want to get the vaccine get.. If ppl don't... Don't. Simple x While technically that is correct, but there is a significant difference. When In contact with any virus, it will remain in your body until you eliminate it. Vaccinated,you could eliminate it instantly, or within a number of hours/days. Unvaccinated,you will have to wait at least a month while it takes over your whole body, before your immune system finally figures out how to defeat it. Meanwhile you are coughing and snottering all over the place, spreading it further. The difference is, unvaccinated you are far more contagious, and for a much longer time. But this differs from something I read on the back of a box of cornflakes once so I feel like I should be outraged
And of course I didn't buy that box of cornflakes cause as everyone knows they make your ears shrink "I heard cornflakes were invented as a tool to stop people masterbating. What does it say about you if you didn't have your cornflakes this morning??? | |||
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"Well.. Vaccinated ppl can still get and spread covid... Just the same as unvaccinated ppl can.. So if ppl want to get the vaccine get.. If ppl don't... Don't. Simple x While technically that is correct, but there is a significant difference. When In contact with any virus, it will remain in your body until you eliminate it. Vaccinated,you could eliminate it instantly, or within a number of hours/days. Unvaccinated,you will have to wait at least a month while it takes over your whole body, before your immune system finally figures out how to defeat it. Meanwhile you are coughing and snottering all over the place, spreading it further. The difference is, unvaccinated you are far more contagious, and for a much longer time. But this differs from something I read on the back of a box of cornflakes once so I feel like I should be outraged
And of course I didn't buy that box of cornflakes cause as everyone knows they make your ears shrink
I heard cornflakes were invented as a tool to stop people masterbating.
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"So our government have decided to separate the vaccinated people from the unvaccinated to protect the vaccinated from a virus they have been already been vaccinated against...... Seems legit "It's to protect the unvaccinated, actually. Unvaccinated people can't dine indoors because they are at higher risk of contracting covid from each other. That has always been the case throughout the pandemic. The difference now is that there's two ways of protecting the population - restrictions, and vaccinations. Since some folks won't get vaccinated, they will have to continue to rely on the restrictions for protection. Anti vaxxers and covid deniers complaining about restrictions is like someone in a Range Rover complaining about being "stuck in traffic" on a five minute school run. They're not stuck in traffic - they ARE the traffic. Unvaccinated people are not the victim of unfair restrictions - they're the reason for them. | |||
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"So our government have decided to separate the vaccinated people from the unvaccinated to protect the vaccinated from a virus they have been already been vaccinated against...... Seems legit
It's to protect the unvaccinated, actually. Unvaccinated people can't dine indoors because they are at higher risk of contracting covid from each other. That has always been the case throughout the pandemic. The difference now is that there's two ways of protecting the population - restrictions, and vaccinations. Since some folks won't get vaccinated, they will have to continue to rely on the restrictions for protection.
Anti vaxxers and covid deniers complaining about restrictions is like someone in a Range Rover complaining about being "stuck in traffic" on a five minute school run. They're not stuck in traffic - they ARE the traffic.
Unvaccinated people are not the victim of unfair restrictions - they're the reason for them.
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"So our government have decided to separate the vaccinated people from the unvaccinated to protect the vaccinated from a virus they have been already been vaccinated against...... Seems legit
It's to protect the unvaccinated, actually. Unvaccinated people can't dine indoors because they are at higher risk of contracting covid from each other. That has always been the case throughout the pandemic. The difference now is that there's two ways of protecting the population - restrictions, and vaccinations. Since some folks won't get vaccinated, they will have to continue to rely on the restrictions for protection.
Anti vaxxers and covid deniers complaining about restrictions is like someone in a Range Rover complaining about being "stuck in traffic" on a five minute school run. They're not stuck in traffic - they ARE the traffic.
Unvaccinated people are not the victim of unfair restrictions - they're the reason for them.
"In other words, take all Range Rovers off the streets (5m in length) and give them a Renault Twizy (2.3m in length)... though in reality the average length of car is between 4.2 and 4.9m - should they all be removed too to bring down the average and speed up traffic (if you actually think that's what's slowing traffic down - I thought it was numbers rather than size that "made traffic")? | |||
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It's to protect the unvaccinated, actually. Unvaccinated people can't dine indoors because they are at higher risk of contracting covid from each other. That has always been the case throughout the pandemic. The difference now is that there's two ways of protecting the population - restrictions, and vaccinations. Since some folks won't get vaccinated, they will have to continue to rely on the restrictions for protection.
Anti vaxxers and covid deniers complaining about restrictions is like someone in a Range Rover complaining about being "stuck in traffic" on a five minute school run. They're not stuck in traffic - they ARE the traffic.
Unvaccinated people are not the victim of unfair restrictions - they're the reason for them.
In other words, take all Range Rovers off the streets (5m in length) and give them a Renault Twizy (2.3m in length)... though in reality the average length of car is between 4.2 and 4.9m - should they all be removed too to bring down the average and speed up traffic (if you actually think that's what's slowing traffic down - I thought it was numbers rather than size that "made traffic")? "The actual Range Rover is irrelevant to the analogy... although there's something to be said about those with the most privilege shouting the loudest and doing the least  | |||
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"The vaccination should be a choice, it doesnt stop you getting or spreading covid so unvaccinated people arent a risk to anybody else more than a vaccinated person. But they *are* more of a risk. They are much more likely to catch and spread the virus than a vaccinated person. " That is declaring one guilty for the possibility he could do something wrong - no need for him to do something wrong .Taking the example in Israel with the majority of hospitalised cases being fully vaccinated, there is no justification to discriminate been faxed and non-vaxed other than splitting the society with great success . | |||
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"I'm not an activist in any way. I drive everywhere, I eat meat, and I buy cloths and electronics, and cheap shit online, knowing full well somebody somewhere is being exploited, and I don't give a shit. Anyone who wears diamonds or takes dr*gs does so, knowing full well that industry is plagued with death and suffering. Everyone, everyday, choses convenience over the suffering of others. If an anti covid person said to me, that they simply dont give a shit about others, and don't want to be inconvenienced, so are against restrictions, I would at least respect that. Because I do the exact same thing every day. However, when they invent a warped view of reality, and try to bend the facts and spread misinformation, just to justify their decision to others, that's what bugs me. I wish these protesters would just step up and admit that they simply don't give a shit. Because that is more believable that the nonsense I hear being spouted." I think your wrong here. And I agree with pretty much 99% of what you say. I dont think anyone is not getting the vaccine due to it being an inconvenience and not giving a shit. I think a large % believe the stuff they read and hear and regurgitate back to us. Others are taking a misguided and mistimed stance against authority. I think some people also are genuinely just more afraid of a vaccine than covid. | |||
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"So our government have decided to separate the vaccinated people from the unvaccinated to protect the vaccinated from a virus they have been already been vaccinated against...... Seems legit
It's to protect the unvaccinated, actually. Unvaccinated people can't dine indoors because they are at higher risk of contracting covid from each other. That has always been the case throughout the pandemic. The difference now is that there's two ways of protecting the population - restrictions, and vaccinations. Since some folks won't get vaccinated, they will have to continue to rely on the restrictions for protection.
Anti vaxxers and covid deniers complaining about restrictions is like someone in a Range Rover complaining about being "stuck in traffic" on a five minute school run. They're not stuck in traffic - they ARE the traffic.
Unvaccinated people are not the victim of unfair restrictions - they're the reason for them.
In other words, take all Range Rovers off the streets (5m in length) and give them a Renault Twizy (2.3m in length)... though in reality the average length of car is between 4.2 and 4.9m - should they all be removed too to bring down the average and speed up traffic (if you actually think that's what's slowing traffic down - I thought it was numbers rather than size that "made traffic")?
The actual Range Rover is irrelevant to the analogy... although there's something to be said about those with the most privilege shouting the loudest and doing the least "Eh, it was your analogy. I'm afraid if you take the Range Rover out of the analogy and insert a Lada for example, it makes just as little sense...some Range Rover drivers, I'm sure, have worked bloody hard to drive a Range Rover and I'm sure there are others who've had it handed to them. But both the Range Rover driver and the Lada driver ARE the traffic, along with everyone else using the roads. If the analogy is about privilege or entitlement, what's the comparison to non vaccinated people - are they too privileged or entitled to decide on what they can or cannot put in their bodies? Does not everybody in this case have the same privilege to decide to take the vaccine, or not - as the case may be? Yet, following your analogy, the non vaccinated should be "restricted", shouldn't Range Rover drivers be also? I really don't understand the analogy using traffic... | |||
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"there will come a time where x % are fully vaxed when they have moved through everybody in the cohorts. then we will see what kinda life we have. Yes, 90% of the population is the current herd immunity threshold for Delta variant - this will need to include children as they the % is so high. Good news on that this weekend as vaccination centres are taking walk-ins for first doses for anyone over 16 which will give people another opportunity to access the jab. Of course once we hit that threshold and restrictions ease, covid deniers will say they were right all along and they didn't give in... When in actuality, they'll owe their freedom to those who did get vaccinated. " id have strong doubts we will hit 90% of full poloulation. lots of parents will not vax their children. | |||
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" I really don't understand the analogy using traffic... " Someone in traffic complaining that there is traffic. Being a road user creates the traffic. Someone refusing a vaccine complaining about ongoing restrictions when they are causing extentions to restrictions by refusing the vaccine. Agree or not the analogy isn't too hard to follow I don't think. | |||
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" I really don't understand the analogy using traffic... Someone in traffic complaining that there is traffic. Being a road user creates the traffic. Someone refusing a vaccine complaining about ongoing restrictions when they are causing extentions to restrictions by refusing the vaccine. Agree or not the analogy isn't too hard to follow I don't think." Mmmmmh, ok...simplest answer to both problems - blow up earth - no more traffic, no more people spreading virus | |||
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" I really don't understand the analogy using traffic... Someone in traffic complaining that there is traffic. Being a road user creates the traffic. Someone refusing a vaccine complaining about ongoing restrictions when they are causing extentions to restrictions by refusing the vaccine. Agree or not the analogy isn't too hard to follow I don't think. Mmmmmh, ok...simplest answer to both problems - blow up earth - no more traffic, no more people spreading virus "I mean... walk and get the vaccine but ya know... each to their own I guess | |||
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" I really don't understand the analogy using traffic... Someone in traffic complaining that there is traffic. Being a road user creates the traffic. Someone refusing a vaccine complaining about ongoing restrictions when they are causing extentions to restrictions by refusing the vaccine. Agree or not the analogy isn't too hard to follow I don't think. Mmmmmh, ok...simplest answer to both problems - blow up earth - no more traffic, no more people spreading virus
I mean... walk and get the vaccine but ya know... each to their own I guess "You'd still get people bitching and moaning - maybe that's what I need to shut out Now to Google how to make a bomb  (I am kidding for anyone worried I might blow up the world - I do enjoy sitting in my nice, warm car on a rainy day, bringing the children to school - even if I'd prefer to drive a Range Rover - any suitors driving a Range Rover, get in touch here  - could do swapsies ) | |||
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"I'm not an activist in any way. I drive everywhere, I eat meat, and I buy cloths and electronics, and cheap shit online, knowing full well somebody somewhere is being exploited, and I don't give a shit. Anyone who wears diamonds or takes dr*gs does so, knowing full well that industry is plagued with death and suffering. Everyone, everyday, choses convenience over the suffering of others. If an anti covid person said to me, that they simply dont give a shit about others, and don't want to be inconvenienced, so are against restrictions, I would at least respect that. Because I do the exact same thing every day. However, when they invent a warped view of reality, and try to bend the facts and spread misinformation, just to justify their decision to others, that's what bugs me. I wish these protesters would just step up and admit that they simply don't give a shit. Because that is more believable that the nonsense I hear being spouted. I think your wrong here. And I agree with pretty much 99% of what you say. I dont think anyone is not getting the vaccine due to it being an inconvenience and not giving a shit. I think a large % believe the stuff they read and hear and regurgitate back to us. Others are taking a misguided and mistimed stance against authority. I think some people also are genuinely just more afraid of a vaccine than covid." True, there are obviously countless reasons why people come to their own decision. And you can't tar everyone with the same brush. But I actually was in Dublin last weekend and saw protest go by. Anyone who will gather in masses of 1000s with every covid denier in the country, no masks or social distancing. Knowing this could only be counter productive to their cause, by increasing cases, and further slowing the ease of restrictions... these people are not acting out of logic, but due to an ulterior motive. | |||
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"Please correct me if I am wrong, but getting vaccinated protects an individual from covid 19. But that person can be a carrier. As previously mentioned, vaccinations are available to all citizens. Indoor dining should open to both vaccinated and unvaccinated. If a person does not want to get vaccinated for whatever reason, let that person take the risk of dining or drinking indoors and potentially contracting Covid and having to deal with the reprocussions. The Government can only do so much. Then it is down to an individuals free choice. I am vaccinated and it was not taken just so I could dine indoors. It was to protect me. That is my choice. " Yes they should be open for everyone or no one ... Vaccine is meant to reduce the risk of getting severe symptoms which means you can still catch virus and even get severe symptoms. As not all vaccines are 100%. Just every year from now.on the virus will have variants and eveey year booster shots will be administored... every government endgame is to treat it as another know virus that changes variants every year and booster shots given every year. So meaning people will still get sick and people will still die. Post Covid Life | |||
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"Please correct me if I am wrong, but getting vaccinated protects an individual from covid 19. But that person can be a carrier. As previously mentioned, vaccinations are available to all citizens. Indoor dining should open to both vaccinated and unvaccinated. If a person does not want to get vaccinated for whatever reason, let that person take the risk of dining or drinking indoors and potentially contracting Covid and having to deal with the reprocussions. The Government can only do so much. Then it is down to an individuals free choice. I am vaccinated and it was not taken just so I could dine indoors. It was to protect me. That is my choice. Yes they should be open for everyone or no one ... Vaccine is meant to reduce the risk of getting severe symptoms which means you can still catch virus and even get severe symptoms. As not all vaccines are 100%. Just every year from now.on the virus will have variants and eveey year booster shots will be administored... every government endgame is to treat it as another know virus that changes variants every year and booster shots given every year. So meaning people will still get sick and people will still die. Post Covid Life " this | |||
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"It's like the people with hiv, they are on here, attend parties, bareback and are popular at the parties. People just either take them at their word that they are on prep or don't know, no one ever asks them to take a blood test to prove it. So I don't see why anyone would ask you to prove you have a vaccine? They can get vaccine if they are worried. They can take prep if they are worried a out hiv. " Are you saying that you know people are on here that are HIV positive,bareback at parties and other people know this and don't mind | |||
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" Firstly it was rushed and is still in a trial period till 2023 (long term side effects aren't known) " All drugs, including vaccines, remain in a long term trial period after they have been clinically trialled and released to market. In general, vaccine side effects make themselves known within a short period of time. The vaccine may be new but the science is not. " Next we are been made take 2 jabs a year for us to keep these certs, as they only last for 180 days for each jab after that restrictions will be put back in place. " Where are you getting your information about the cert lasting for 180 days? | |||
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"So our government have decided to separate the vaccinated people from the unvaccinated to protect the vaccinated from a virus they have been already been vaccinated against...... Seems legit
It's to protect the unvaccinated, actually. Unvaccinated people can't dine indoors because they are at higher risk of contracting covid from each other. That has always been the case throughout the pandemic. The difference now is that there's two ways of protecting the population - restrictions, and vaccinations. Since some folks won't get vaccinated, they will have to continue to rely on the restrictions for protection.
Anti vaxxers and covid deniers complaining about restrictions is like someone in a Range Rover complaining about being "stuck in traffic" on a five minute school run. They're not stuck in traffic - they ARE the traffic.
Unvaccinated people are not the victim of unfair restrictions - they're the reason for them.
In other words, take all Range Rovers off the streets (5m in length) and give them a Renault Twizy (2.3m in length)... though in reality the average length of car is between 4.2 and 4.9m - should they all be removed too to bring down the average and speed up traffic (if you actually think that's what's slowing traffic down - I thought it was numbers rather than size that "made traffic")?
The actual Range Rover is irrelevant to the analogy... although there's something to be said about those with the most privilege shouting the loudest and doing the least "I’m not sure I understand this, are you saying that people who drive Range Rover are automatically the most privileged, shout the loudest and do the least? | |||
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"I've heard that one a few times..."it was rushed" but this was not their first attempt at a vaccine for corona viruses. They have been testing on multiple strains for well over a decade. They already had 95% of the puzzle for covid19. Personally I took it not for myself but for the people around me. I couldn't live with myself if I found I passed it on to a friend or family member and they died or had long term symptoms. " You can still be a carrier and pass it on to others. The vaccine is designed to stop a person getting severe symptoms if they get Covid. | |||
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"If we need to be persuaded, reminded, pressured, lied to, incentivised, coerced, bullied, socially shamed, guilt tripped, threatened, punished and criminalised ... to gain our compliance, can we be absolutely certain that it is all solely for our best interests? " Yes. | |||
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"Consent, not coercion. Yes, two tier society. People being 'rewarded for doing the right thing'. This is just the beginning of what will become a social credit score system like in China. Until the medical trials are over in 2023 people have every right to wait to see what the longterm effects are before choosing whether or not they want it. There will be private events organised for the unjabbed so we won't be left out, there are far too many of us who want to party with likeminded people! And the jabbed who agree with us will be welcome because we don't judge people on whether or not they have had a medical procedure done. "But. But what about.....aahh, what's the point. Doctors differ,opinions differ, patients die. Wish you continued good health. | |||
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"Well here is our take on it. The vaccines were needed for the old and the sick in this country, especially after what happened in the nursing homes. And was great to see. Plus it should be a person's choice but as we can see it doesn't seem to be. As now we have a system where we have to show a vaccine card to avail of certain services, this seems to just wrong as if your vaccinated you are protected, so it should make no difference who sits near you, now before anyone calls us antivaxers, we have all our jabs taken and our kids (except for the flu jab) but we won't be taken this for a number of reasons. Firstly it was rushed and is still in a trial period till 2023 (long term side effects aren't known) Secondly the companies that make these covid vaccines aren't willing to stand over them would make anyone nervous of taken one. These were rushed and not put through a proper trial period, so long-term side effects aren't known just yet. Next we are been made take 2 jabs a year for us to keep these certs, as they only last for 180 days for each jab after that restrictions will be put back in place. This year will be free but we will have to pay next year. But the real question here is would you meet up with a non vaccinated person if you were vaccinated. " I have no intention of getting the vax till at least 2023, myself. Personally I don't think any one should judge anybody for what ever they choose, but the way that it has been pushed I feel it ain't right. Big pharma are among the biggest lobbyists in the world and have been found to be far from having good ethics at the best of times. If I had the confidence in the vax and took it myself, I would defo have no problem meeting people who weren't vaxxed. Sure it is only the media, government, political scientists and big pharma that are dividing people. | |||
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"If you want to vax..get it. If you dont want the vax..dont. Its nobody elses business Personally i dont discriminate against anybody, well except for assholes" Annnnd keep notes let's not forget.... | |||
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"I see electric picnic is going to discriminate between vac n unvac" Delighted since I'll be working at it and especially great to see the youth of this country queuing to get their first jab yesterday | |||
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"Once again, more pick n mix from the same posters than Woolworths ever had. "If your going to call stuff out call it out directly. This gossip stuff is tedious | |||
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"Once again, more pick n mix from the same posters than Woolworths ever had.
If your going to call stuff out call it out directly.
This gossip stuff is tedious "I've called it out directly many times. Keep up. | |||
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"Once again, more pick n mix from the same posters than Woolworths ever had.
If your going to call stuff out call it out directly.
This gossip stuff is tedious
I've called it out directly many times. Keep up. "I dont have as much dedication to the whole thing as you to keep up it seems. But I have noticed about 5 threads this week alone with these vauge shots. I just think if your gonna say "well know poster" "same posters" and similar constantly you should just address them directly. Otherwise it just comes off as school yard gossip | |||
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"Once again, more pick n mix from the same posters than Woolworths ever had.
If your going to call stuff out call it out directly.
This gossip stuff is tedious
I've called it out directly many times. Keep up.
I dont have as much dedication to the whole thing as you to keep up it seems.
But I have noticed about 5 threads this week alone with these vauge shots. I just think if your gonna say "well know poster" "same posters" and similar constantly you should just address them directly. Otherwise it just comes off as school yard gossip "You seem pretty well invested at the moment. | |||
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"Once again, more pick n mix from the same posters than Woolworths ever had.
If your going to call stuff out call it out directly.
This gossip stuff is tedious
I've called it out directly many times. Keep up.
I dont have as much dedication to the whole thing as you to keep up it seems.
But I have noticed about 5 threads this week alone with these vauge shots. I just think if your gonna say "well know poster" "same posters" and similar constantly you should just address them directly. Otherwise it just comes off as school yard gossip
You seem pretty well invested at the moment. "I'm like a distracted puppy I don't have the attention span to he invested here. You may have a point I have no idea. I just think you'd certainly across with more credibility if you actually addressed the people and avoided the subtle shade. I'm sure you don't care either way though. Have a good one | |||
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"I see electric picnic is going to discriminate between vac n unvac And thank god for that. I can't wait for festivals to restart " To be honest I still don't think it will happen this year ...hopefully proved wrong | |||
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"I see electric picnic is going to discriminate between vac n unvac And thank god for that. I can't wait for festivals to restart To be honest I still don't think it will happen this year ...hopefully proved wrong " Forever young and The rock festival both postponed again recently until 2021 They were for Aug and sept this year | |||
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"I see electric picnic is going to discriminate between vac n unvac And thank god for that. I can't wait for festivals to restart To be honest I still don't think it will happen this year ...hopefully proved wrong Forever young and The rock festival both postponed again recently until 2021 They were for Aug and sept this year" Wakey, wakey, it's 2021 already, only 5month left. | |||
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"I see electric picnic is going to discriminate between vac n unvac And thank god for that. I can't wait for festivals to restart To be honest I still don't think it will happen this year ...hopefully proved wrong Forever young and The rock festival both postponed again recently until 2021 They were for Aug and sept this year Wakey, wakey, it's 2021 already, only 5month left. "Doh I ment 2022! leave me alone you  | |||
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"I see electric picnic is going to discriminate between vac n unvac And thank god for that. I can't wait for festivals to restart To be honest I still don't think it will happen this year ...hopefully proved wrong Forever young and The rock festival both postponed again recently until 2021 They were for Aug and sept this year Wakey, wakey, it's 2021 already, only 5month left.
Doh I ment 2022! leave me alone you "Wait till you're at it next year in 2022 and it's called Forever young 2020 | |||
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"I see electric picnic is going to discriminate between vac n unvac And thank god for that. I can't wait for festivals to restart To be honest I still don't think it will happen this year ...hopefully proved wrong Forever young and The rock festival both postponed again recently until 2021 They were for Aug and sept this year Wakey, wakey, it's 2021 already, only 5month left.
Doh I ment 2022! leave me alone you
Wait till you're at it next year in 2022 and it's called Forever young 2020
"In other countries you need to be tested for those events regardless of vaccination status. There's more and more data emerging that the delta variant can be carried and transmitted by a vaccinated person as much as a non vaccinated one. So this whole segregation bs is totally unnecessary. | |||
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