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"I’m not blaming the women. Both parties have to take responsibility for sexual protection. " Agreed, but that's certainly not how you phrased it. | |||
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It is just as easy to spread sti's in a group scenario that way, wearing condoms only protects one who's wearing it, doesn't stop that person from passing it on | |||
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"Its gas we'd frown on teenagers for doing it" What the having multiple sexual partners, group sex, parties couple swapping? It almost like it's a different scenario for younger people unable to full weight the risks of certain activities isnt it | |||
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"Spread of STIs with oral is much lower risk . Deep throating an exception " Lower but far from zero. Syphilis being one of the mor prevalent ones that can be transmitted through oral. The point is any sex with multiple partners carries a risk. Each individual is responsible for their own assessment of that risk but we all take some level of chance | |||
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"I agree but practically putting on condoms with oral which I tried a couple of years ago for a while is extremely frustrating . The aftertaste is unacceptable for many Given risk profile I think this is a side issue . We wouldn’t meet anyone with bareback pics , regardless of context . The risk is too high plus it’s just promoting something unsafe You could argue meets during the pandemic is the same but vaccinations are the condom equivalent " I disagree with the safesex vaccine comparison to be honest. Covid can be passed unknowingly to complete strangers. Sexual contact is by the type we are talking about here consensual and planned. I wouldnt have unsafe sex or meet someone I know who is. But I'm not going to slam them for making that choice either. Plus I'd much rather someone is upfront about it and has it on their profile so I can make that choice than someone to professes to practice safe sex but behind closed doors doesn't. And the type of rethoric that is repeated on here about unprotected sex fosters that duplicity | |||
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"It's their decision to not use them and condoms don't stop all Sti's anyhow. If you don't agree with what other people have on their profiles all you have to do is pass them by. I really don't get the need to slate people over what they choose to show on their own profile. And btw it's both people's responsibility to bring condoms and use them if that's what they choose to do."  | |||
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"... You're blaming the women for not wearing condoms? Surely it's the bare cocks that need to wise up? " Can you please message me. Thanks | |||
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"I agree but practically putting on condoms with oral which I tried a couple of years ago for a while is extremely frustrating . The aftertaste is unacceptable for many Given risk profile I think this is a side issue . We wouldn’t meet anyone with bareback pics , regardless of context . The risk is too high plus it’s just promoting something unsafe You could argue meets during the pandemic is the same but vaccinations are the condom equivalent I disagree with the safesex vaccine comparison to be honest. Covid can be passed unknowingly to complete strangers. Sexual contact is by the type we are talking about here consensual and planned. I wouldnt have unsafe sex or meet someone I know who is. But I'm not going to slam them for making that choice either. Plus I'd much rather someone is upfront about it and has it on their profile so I can make that choice than someone to professes to practice safe sex but behind closed doors doesn't. And the type of rethoric that is repeated on here about unprotected sex fosters that duplicity"
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"I agree but practically putting on condoms with oral which I tried a couple of years ago for a while is extremely frustrating . The aftertaste is unacceptable for many Given risk profile I think this is a side issue . We wouldn’t meet anyone with bareback pics , regardless of context . The risk is too high plus it’s just promoting something unsafe You could argue meets during the pandemic is the same but vaccinations are the condom equivalent I disagree with the safesex vaccine comparison to be honest. Covid can be passed unknowingly to complete strangers. Sexual contact is by the type we are talking about here consensual and planned. I wouldnt have unsafe sex or meet someone I know who is. But I'm not going to slam them for making that choice either. Plus I'd much rather someone is upfront about it and has it on their profile so I can make that choice than someone to professes to practice safe sex but behind closed doors doesn't. And the type of rethoric that is repeated on here about unprotected sex fosters that duplicity
100% this"Yup, but far too sensical for on here.  | |||
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"Bareback pics = no conversation " Really?! Even singletons may have had committed exclusive relationships, where STI status is regularly checked, and may just put up photos from times gone by... In saying that, I admit that obvious action shots on a profile put me off to an extent, regardless of condom use... However, I wouldn't go near a profile advertising or actively looking for bareback. | |||
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"People watch a lot of porn too I think most of which is bare but after the actors have been tested. It's a case of real life trying to imatate art (art used in the loosed sense of the word). It's so important to play safe and get tested regularly. " For most of human existance sex has always been bare. It's what we have nearly always done. It IS normal. We didn't need porn to show us how to not use condoms. I've had sex thousands of times (in long term relationships) bare, and only on occasion with a condom. There is nothing wrong with bare sex in proper trusting relationships. It doesn't need to be demonised. | |||
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"I think it raises a concern , and I don’t want to go into a meet concerned. " I completely understand that, I don't think anyone wants to go into a meet concerned in any way, shape or form, be that sexual health, be that personal safety - but let's face it - we're meeting strangers through a swinging/sex site (however you choose to use the site obviously). There are many on this site who meet for a social to suss out the opposition, if chemistry is there a meet might be organised, or possibly action even happens on the day of the social - are you honestly telling me that you trust a person after one or two meetings what they tell you about having safe sex, regardless of if they clearly state safe sex only on their profile and don't display unprotected sex photos? Do you ask for proof of a most recent health check? Because frankly, I don't, nor would I necessarily trust a person if they told me - "hey, all clean"...THAT's why I have protected sex when meeting strangers full stop and get tested regularly when sexually active... Just because it's not displayed on a profile, doesn't mean it's not there. | |||
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"That’s all true , but a bareback pic is a good way of narrowing down my search . We already have something fundamentally different in the way we approach things This could easily turn into a brexit type thread btw which surprises me . Perhaps it’s a deal breaker for some and not others . Like shaved pubes " I suppose that's where the layout and approach to the individual's profile comes in and how it is perceived and interpreted by its viewers - which may be a completely wrong interpretation! I prefer not to judge a book by its cover, though obviously I do too, in my own little way 
Unkempt pubes on a profile are a turn-off but again, maybe they're someone who are happy to turn up to a meet perfectly trimmed 
For me, it starts with the gut feeling based on the combination of profile and first message exchange and what I see in the Forum (if active in the Forum)... | |||
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"I agree but practically putting on condoms with oral which I tried a couple of years ago for a while is extremely frustrating . The aftertaste is unacceptable for many Given risk profile I think this is a side issue . We wouldn’t meet anyone with bareback pics , regardless of context . The risk is too high plus it’s just promoting something unsafe You could argue meets during the pandemic is the same but vaccinations are the condom equivalent " Regardless of context? Really? Does that include between long term couples? Are there many couples in committed long term relationships who regularly use condoms when having sex with each other? | |||
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"it’s often difficult to work out in profiles if the bareback pic is of the long term couple rather than during the meet. I don’t think this is a huge issue btw. You have one/two fabbers saying they have a preference to not meet bareback pic profile members . There are so many preferences left right and centre , at least this one has a bit (I know you think it’s overstated ) of a sexual health context. Very much like brexit I/we have no intention of changing our mind and I am sure those who contextualise bareback pic profiles have no intention of changing theirs. " Are you a couple or a single male? | |||
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"Thé answer is in the profile. Single male profile for a long time then a recent couple profile started about 2 months ago " As a couple.. do you guys never have unprotected sex? | |||
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"No as we are an FWB/fab couple not living together. This is a Circular argument as I said and no one is changing their mind so I am happy to leave it at that . " Do you think that it's ok for couples that ARE proper fulltime couples who live together to have unprotected sex with each other? Or is it just the pics of such that puts you off? | |||
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"Bareback pics = no conversation " Interestingly i just looked at your couples profile and found you are verified by a couple who are displaying bareback pics  | |||
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"Bareback pics = no conversation Interestingly i just looked at your couples profile and found you are verified by a couple who are displaying bareback pics "Mic drop | |||
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"Bareback pics = no conversation Interestingly i just looked at your couples profile and found you are verified by a couple who are displaying bareback pics
Mic drop "haha a proper Jessica fletcher | |||
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"Bareback pics = no conversation Interestingly i just looked at your couples profile and found you are verified by a couple who are displaying bareback pics "The ‘circular argument’ has just been ended!!!!  | |||
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"it’s often difficult to work out in profiles if the bareback pic is of the long term couple rather than during the meet. I don’t think this is a huge issue btw. You have one/two fabbers saying they have a preference to not meet bareback pic profile members . There are so many preferences left right and centre , at least this one has a bit (I know you think it’s overstated ) of a sexual health context. Very much like brexit I/we have no intention of changing our mind and I am sure those who contextualise bareback pic profiles have no intention of changing theirs. " I'm not trying to change your mind
I was just thinking out loud that there are perhaps not many committed long term couples who use condoms every time they have sex together. I could of course be wrong.
But, as Filthy Nights has already pointed out, it seems that you've already been swayed on at least one occasion | |||
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