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"Yes. It's very much the norm for leftover vaccine at the end of the day. Better someone uses it than it going to waste" I get that part but it's the friend part that causes me to say no. Do it officially and ring someone local in the target group. | |||
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"No, there are clear guidelines on what should happen with leftover vaccines." I've already had my first but I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as guidelines were followed. | |||
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"I was asked why I started the thread so honestly it's because I was wavering between the two But the more I realised what was wrong about the Beacon Hospital story,the more I realised my answer would be no." Nice one, you are the hope. P.s. just to clarify, not a hope would i take it. Not enough long term studies. I'm not anti vat, just anti this vat till maybe ten years. Think thalidomide | |||
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"I know a married couple who said if they could get vaccinated fully, they'd be off foreign for a month. get away from here until things improve. " Can't say I blame them, once they did what they are supposed to on their return | |||
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"I know a married couple who said if they could get vaccinated fully, they'd be off foreign for a month. get away from here until things improve. Can't say I blame them, once they did what they are supposed to on their return " ud wonder how long that mandatory quarantine will stay in place here. | |||
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"A friend calls,she works in a hospital,she has some left over vaccine and say its yours if you can make it in an hour.. Yes or no....no other option....she'll ring other friends on her phone Would you ....no explanation needed" Yes | |||
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"I was asked why I started the thread so honestly it's because I was wavering between the two But the more I realised what was wrong about the Beacon Hospital story,the more I realised my answer would be no." I wasn't aware of the story. Having read it, maybe I'd feel differently if I didn't live in NI. I'd still prefer they go in arms rather than bins though | |||
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"I was asked why I started the thread so honestly it's because I was wavering between the two But the more I realised what was wrong about the Beacon Hospital story,the more I realised my answer would be no. I wasn't aware of the story. Having read it, maybe I'd feel differently if I didn't live in NI. I'd still prefer they go in arms rather than bins though" this is it. a disgrace if vaccines are dumped. | |||
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"I was asked why I started the thread so honestly it's because I was wavering between the two But the more I realised what was wrong about the Beacon Hospital story,the more I realised my answer would be no. Nice one, you are the hope. P.s. just to clarify, not a hope would i take it. Not enough long term studies. I'm not anti vat, just anti this vat till maybe ten years. Think thalidomide " The Thalidomide tragedy catalysed the formation of the FDA. The FDA and EMA have given emergency approval to these vaccines. I'll have no problem taking it when my time comes. Mrs. | |||
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"The Ops question is you can take it or its horsed into the bin!
No other option "No the ops question was would you take it if your buddy offered it to you? | |||
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"The Ops question is you can take it or its horsed into the bin!
No other option "No she said that she will call other friends on her phone if you say no. | |||
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"The Ops question is you can take it or its horsed into the bin!
No other option
No the ops question was would you take it if your buddy offered it to you? ""Yes or no....no other option....she'll ring other friends on her phone" Kaizer read yes or no other option | |||
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"The Ops question is you can take it or its horsed into the bin!
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No she said that she will call other friends on her phone if you say no. " | |||
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"The Ops question is you can take it or its horsed into the bin!
No other option "Yea Manbeast i read that too... Options are yes or no!! | |||
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"I may have worded it wrong but meant it wouldn't go to waste because if you say no...then she rings the next number " How long has she got until it perishes?  | |||
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"The Ops question is you can take it or its horsed into the bin!
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Yea Manbeast i read that too... Options are yes or no!! "These things happen | |||
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"I may have worded it wrong but meant it wouldn't go to waste because if you say no...then she rings the next number " no vaccine should be wasted. | |||
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"Yes. It's very much the norm for leftover vaccine at the end of the day. Better someone uses it than it going to waste" my thinking | |||
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"No vaccine should ever be wasted. They should have had a proper equitable system in place in the event of free vaccines, which apparently is a regular occurrence due to non attendance on any given day. Mr. " Do they, I wonder. This is the ideal but in reality how easy is it for all elderly and/or vulnerable to get to a hospital or surgery at short notice  | |||
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"No vaccine should ever be wasted. They should have had a proper equitable system in place in the event of free vaccines, which apparently is a regular occurrence due to non attendance on any given day. Mr. Do they, I wonder. This is the ideal but in reality how easy is it for all elderly and/or vulnerable to get to a hospital or surgery at short notice "Unfortunately, some unused vaccine does go to waste as it has a limited life expectancy  | |||
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"No vaccine should ever be wasted. They should have had a proper equitable system in place in the event of free vaccines, which apparently is a regular occurrence due to non attendance on any given day. Mr. Do they, I wonder. This is the ideal but in reality how easy is it for all elderly and/or vulnerable to get to a hospital or surgery at short notice
Unfortunately, some unused vaccine does go to waste as it has a limited life expectancy "Which is why I answered 'yes' to this^^ | |||
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"No vaccine should ever be wasted. They should have had a proper equitable system in place in the event of free vaccines, which apparently is a regular occurrence due to non attendance on any given day. Mr. Do they, I wonder. This is the ideal but in reality how easy is it for all elderly and/or vulnerable to get to a hospital or surgery at short notice
Unfortunately, some unused vaccine does go to waste as it has a limited life expectancy
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"No. The "left over" vaccines should go to the people on the back up list which should be prepared in advance. There is no acceptable situation in which there are "left over" vaccines. " I agree . | |||
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"No. The "left over" vaccines should go to the people on the back up list which should be prepared in advance. There is no acceptable situation in which there are "left over" vaccines. " Exactly what I said above and why I said no. There shouldn't be a friend option. That's right up there with " jobs for the boys" | |||
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"No. The "left over" vaccines should go to the people on the back up list which should be prepared in advance. There is no acceptable situation in which there are "left over" vaccines. Exactly what I said above and why I said no. There shouldn't be a friend option. That's right up there with " jobs for the boys"" One of the headlines in a paper was " Jabs for the boys " | |||
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"No. The "left over" vaccines should go to the people on the back up list which should be prepared in advance. There is no acceptable situation in which there are "left over" vaccines. Exactly what I said above and why I said no. There shouldn't be a friend option. That's right up there with " jobs for the boys"" | |||
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"Unfortunately due to its short life expectancy, a portion of unused vaccine gets dumped on a daily basis "I am not condoning in any way what happened at the Beacon. However, stick it in any near arm I say if you cannot get hold of someone next on the rollout plan. Better than it going to waste. | |||
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"Unfortunately due to its short life expectancy, a portion of unused vaccine gets dumped on a daily basis
I am not condoning in any way what happened at the Beacon.
However, stick it in any near arm I say if you cannot get hold of someone next on the rollout plan. Better than it going to waste."Quite incredible to think Ireland hasn't got its shit together on this! | |||
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"Unfortunately due to its short life expectancy, a portion of unused vaccine gets dumped on a daily basis
I am not condoning in any way what happened at the Beacon.
However, stick it in any near arm I say if you cannot get hold of someone next on the rollout plan. Better than it going to waste."This was my reasoning too. Taking Beacon out of the equation, there will be circumstances where it is not possible to get those leftover vaccinations to people who are next on the priority list and in that case get them in arms. Any arms. Because to throw them in the bin is just as scandalous. | |||
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"Unfortunately due to its short life expectancy, a portion of unused vaccine gets dumped on a daily basis
I am not condoning in any way what happened at the Beacon.
However, stick it in any near arm I say if you cannot get hold of someone next on the rollout plan. Better than it going to waste.
This was my reasoning too. Taking Beacon out of the equation, there will be circumstances where it is not possible to get those leftover vaccinations to people who are next on the priority list and in that case get them in arms. Any arms. Because to throw them in the bin is just as scandalous."That's why they're obliged to have a back up list in place, updated regularly during the day. The majority of vaccination centres don't have a problem doing that. | |||
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I am not condoning in any way what happened at the Beacon.
However, stick it in any near arm I say if you cannot get hold of someone next on the rollout plan. Better than it going to waste.".. Why not contact another hospital or care home or GP who still have queues of vulnerable people waiting...Giving it to your buddies in a private school is not a priority now | |||
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"I was asked why I started the thread so honestly it's because I was wavering between the two But the more I realised what was wrong about the Beacon Hospital story,the more I realised my answer would be no. I wasn't aware of the story. Having read it, maybe I'd feel differently if I didn't live in NI. I'd still prefer they go in arms rather than bins though" Theres no way they would be binned there is clear and concise instruction as to who is to be called up for extra vax doses | |||
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"....there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem." There ya go! Like it of not, it's happening on a daily basis | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem." ... Exactly. I know plenty of vulnerable still waiting. If we take the attitude of "sure as long as its not wasted" then it becomes a dog eat dog situation. And one thing we have learned is the wealthy and greedy will win out in that situation. A proper structure in place means they won't be wasted and the vaccines go into arms of people that need it first | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem." There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. " you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. " Have you checked everywhere or are you just buying into the hype? | |||
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"My mother got 2 hours notice for her vaccine. She is almost 80 . So there are lists and some GPs are following guidelines. " that's what I'm saying. there are categories of people for vaccines working from the vulnerable down and if for whatever a person cant take the shot, phonecalls should be made and if the person can make it in, they get it. | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. Have you checked everywhere or are you just buying into the hype? " I have relations working in healthcare. I have one relative a doctor. I'm not talking about offering the vaccines to anyone. there should be a list on a computer system from top to bottom. do you think every single vaccine vile is been used? | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. Have you checked everywhere or are you just buying into the hype? I have relations working in healthcare. I have one relative a doctor. I'm not talking about offering the vaccines to anyone. there should be a list on a computer system from top to bottom. do you think every single vaccine vile is been used?" My point is that there is a list. If you're doctor relative is telling you there's not then he's telling porkies. Every vaccination centre has to have a stand by list and given that we're only doing cohort 4 as yet then it's not difficult to compile such a list. I suggest you should report this doctor to the HSE if you know they're breaching HSE guidelines. | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. Have you checked everywhere or are you just buying into the hype? I have relations working in healthcare. I have one relative a doctor. I'm not talking about offering the vaccines to anyone. there should be a list on a computer system from top to bottom. do you think every single vaccine vile is been used? My point is that there is a list. If you're doctor relative is telling you there's not then he's telling porkies. Every vaccination centre has to have a stand by list and given that we're only doing cohort 4 as yet then it's not difficult to compile such a list. I suggest you should report this doctor to the HSE if you know they're breaching HSE guidelines. " Well you tell me then, how come some vaccine viles on a daily basis are been binned? no matter who, the vaccine should be going in somebody's arm and not a bin. | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. Have you checked everywhere or are you just buying into the hype? I have relations working in healthcare. I have one relative a doctor. I'm not talking about offering the vaccines to anyone. there should be a list on a computer system from top to bottom. do you think every single vaccine vile is been used? My point is that there is a list. If you're doctor relative is telling you there's not then he's telling porkies. Every vaccination centre has to have a stand by list and given that we're only doing cohort 4 as yet then it's not difficult to compile such a list. I suggest you should report this doctor to the HSE if you know they're breaching HSE guidelines. Well you tell me then, how come some vaccine viles on a daily basis are been binned? no matter who, the vaccine should be going in somebody's arm and not a bin. " where exactly is this happening? | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. Have you checked everywhere or are you just buying into the hype? I have relations working in healthcare. I have one relative a doctor. I'm not talking about offering the vaccines to anyone. there should be a list on a computer system from top to bottom. do you think every single vaccine vile is been used? My point is that there is a list. If you're doctor relative is telling you there's not then he's telling porkies. Every vaccination centre has to have a stand by list and given that we're only doing cohort 4 as yet then it's not difficult to compile such a list. I suggest you should report this doctor to the HSE if you know they're breaching HSE guidelines. Well you tell me then, how come some vaccine viles on a daily basis are been binned? no matter who, the vaccine should be going in somebody's arm and not a bin. " Where are these vaccines being binned? Have you evidence of this? Have you reported it to the HSE? How many are you talking about? | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. Have you checked everywhere or are you just buying into the hype? I have relations working in healthcare. I have one relative a doctor. I'm not talking about offering the vaccines to anyone. there should be a list on a computer system from top to bottom. do you think every single vaccine vile is been used? My point is that there is a list. If you're doctor relative is telling you there's not then he's telling porkies. Every vaccination centre has to have a stand by list and given that we're only doing cohort 4 as yet then it's not difficult to compile such a list. I suggest you should report this doctor to the HSE if you know they're breaching HSE guidelines. Well you tell me then, how come some vaccine viles on a daily basis are been binned? no matter who, the vaccine should be going in somebody's arm and not a bin. Where are these vaccines being binned? Have you evidence of this? Have you reported it to the HSE? How many are you talking about? " i think he overheard 2 auld wans saying it outside the post office | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. Have you checked everywhere or are you just buying into the hype? I have relations working in healthcare. I have one relative a doctor. I'm not talking about offering the vaccines to anyone. there should be a list on a computer system from top to bottom. do you think every single vaccine vile is been used? My point is that there is a list. If you're doctor relative is telling you there's not then he's telling porkies. Every vaccination centre has to have a stand by list and given that we're only doing cohort 4 as yet then it's not difficult to compile such a list. I suggest you should report this doctor to the HSE if you know they're breaching HSE guidelines. Well you tell me then, how come some vaccine viles on a daily basis are been binned? no matter who, the vaccine should be going in somebody's arm and not a bin. Where are these vaccines being binned? Have you evidence of this? Have you reported it to the HSE? How many are you talking about? " there is ample news stories over the weeks of people not showing for vaccines. are you telling me all these vaccine viles are been used on other people and some not ending up in a bin? | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. Have you checked everywhere or are you just buying into the hype? I have relations working in healthcare. I have one relative a doctor. I'm not talking about offering the vaccines to anyone. there should be a list on a computer system from top to bottom. do you think every single vaccine vile is been used? My point is that there is a list. If you're doctor relative is telling you there's not then he's telling porkies. Every vaccination centre has to have a stand by list and given that we're only doing cohort 4 as yet then it's not difficult to compile such a list. I suggest you should report this doctor to the HSE if you know they're breaching HSE guidelines. Well you tell me then, how come some vaccine viles on a daily basis are been binned? no matter who, the vaccine should be going in somebody's arm and not a bin. Where are these vaccines being binned? Have you evidence of this? Have you reported it to the HSE? How many are you talking about? there is ample news stories over the weeks of people not showing for vaccines. are you telling me all these vaccine viles are been used on other people and some not ending up in a bin? " So you're presuming they're thrown in the bin instead of the protocols being followed? That's why they have to have standby lists before starting. | |||
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"I got my first through the GP surgery nearly a month ago. I have mild asthma. I got an hour's notice asking me to come in. I live 5 mins from the surgery but was working an hour away and made it with minutes to spare. I asked what would have happened if I hadn't made it and they said almost every person they contacted at short notice had made it and as it was the astra zeneca one there aren't the same storage issues. " that's good so. | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. Have you checked everywhere or are you just buying into the hype? I have relations working in healthcare. I have one relative a doctor. I'm not talking about offering the vaccines to anyone. there should be a list on a computer system from top to bottom. do you think every single vaccine vile is been used? My point is that there is a list. If you're doctor relative is telling you there's not then he's telling porkies. Every vaccination centre has to have a stand by list and given that we're only doing cohort 4 as yet then it's not difficult to compile such a list. I suggest you should report this doctor to the HSE if you know they're breaching HSE guidelines. Well you tell me then, how come some vaccine viles on a daily basis are been binned? no matter who, the vaccine should be going in somebody's arm and not a bin. Where are these vaccines being binned? Have you evidence of this? Have you reported it to the HSE? How many are you talking about? there is ample news stories over the weeks of people not showing for vaccines. are you telling me all these vaccine viles are been used on other people and some not ending up in a bin? So you're presuming they're thrown in the bin instead of the protocols being followed? That's why they have to have standby lists before starting. " not presuming. you're taking it for granted every vaccine vile is been used every single day. you could be right but as easily you could be wrong. | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. Have you checked everywhere or are you just buying into the hype? I have relations working in healthcare. I have one relative a doctor. I'm not talking about offering the vaccines to anyone. there should be a list on a computer system from top to bottom. do you think every single vaccine vile is been used? My point is that there is a list. If you're doctor relative is telling you there's not then he's telling porkies. Every vaccination centre has to have a stand by list and given that we're only doing cohort 4 as yet then it's not difficult to compile such a list. I suggest you should report this doctor to the HSE if you know they're breaching HSE guidelines. Well you tell me then, how come some vaccine viles on a daily basis are been binned? no matter who, the vaccine should be going in somebody's arm and not a bin. Where are these vaccines being binned? Have you evidence of this? Have you reported it to the HSE? How many are you talking about? there is ample news stories over the weeks of people not showing for vaccines. are you telling me all these vaccine viles are been used on other people and some not ending up in a bin? " Why do you think the story broke ...people were double booked but all the vaccines were used in the end My father was getting his but my mother wasnt The doctor told her to turn up with my dad anyway She got done instead of waiting on the late call in the evening They've just left the house to go for their second dose | |||
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"let's not forget, once the vaccine is out it has to be used within hours. " That is once its prepared for use at the vaccine location.... Not all doses are prepared at once... so yes you may have the remains of a prepared vile that needs to be binned at the end of the day but that's going to happen even if everyone shows up | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. " It does happen. Grandad got a call at 5.15pm.....could he be in the surgery within 20 minutes. Someone had cancelled and he was next on the list.....why do you think it doesn't work like that? | |||
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"Anyway back on track If you got a call from a friend offering you the vaccine that was left over If you say no...she rings the next friend No vaccines go to waste someone gets them ....would you say yes " Well she's rang Kaizer so next in her phone book is probably that jinnit she hangs around with at Pilates called Louie. Hes such a wanker, back in primary school he ate Kaizer's kit-kat one day, spat it in the bin, cos the dope didn't remove all the foil wrapping. So yes, hold on dear nurse friend! Kaizer is on the way, don't give it to that prick. | |||
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. It does happen. Grandad got a call at 5.15pm.....could he be in the surgery within 20 minutes. Someone had cancelled and he was next on the list.....why do you think it doesn't work like that?" And after that phone call the next person has 18 minutes and so on
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"unused vaccines that have a life expectancy of a few hours. there should be a list in each GP surgery, you contact people and ask are they available to come in and take a vaccine. if not, you move to the next person, so on so forth. I bet ud have people jumping to take them. there is not a proper structure in place. that's the problem. There is a proper structure in place and it's pretty much as you've described. you think phone calls are been made from GP surgeries to people to ask are they available to accept a spare vaccine? it might be happening in some places but it's not happening everywhere. It does happen. Grandad got a call at 5.15pm.....could he be in the surgery within 20 minutes. Someone had cancelled and he was next on the list.....why do you think it doesn't work like that?" because not every person they ring immediately can come in. I have no doubt, a system is in place, the point I'm making, is that system always followed and does every vaccine get used. | |||
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"Were the Beacon vaccines actually 'left over'? Wasn't it strange that all 19 teachers were available at such short notice? Why didn't he phone his family/friends, or were they already vaccinated? All it does is raise more questions, hopefully it will all come out "of course they weren't left overs. | |||
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"Were the Beacon vaccines actually 'left over'? Wasn't it strange that all 19 teachers were available at such short notice? Why didn't he phone his family/friends, or were they already vaccinated? All it does is raise more questions, hopefully it will all come out "... Exactly. There are a lot more questions than answers. Nobody wants waste of vaccine when they so precious at moment. These vaccines were transported from sandyford to bray... Whereas if they had made a phone call to St Lukes, Vincent's or Blackrock clinc surely they would have taken them for more needed recipients. (all of which are closer but instead they actually went the opposite direction to a school in Bray!) .. It just stinks. | |||
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"No. The "left over" vaccines should go to the people on the back up list which should be prepared in advance. There is no acceptable situation in which there are "left over" vaccines. " What he said. | |||
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"If someone gets a call to get a vaccine, one that was leftover at the end of the day, when do they get their second dose? Is it at the same rate as a scheduled person gets their second dose 4 -12 weeks later ? " Yes you go into the system as normal with a specified date | |||
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"If someone gets a call to get a vaccine, one that was leftover at the end of the day, when do they get their second dose? Is it at the same rate as a scheduled person gets their second dose 4 -12 weeks later ? Yes you go into the system as normal with a specified date " I got mine a month ago and have no idea when I'll get the second as they couldn't give me a date. | |||
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"If someone gets a call to get a vaccine, one that was leftover at the end of the day, when do they get their second dose? Is it at the same rate as a scheduled person gets their second dose 4 -12 weeks later ? Yes you go into the system as normal with a specified date I got mine a month ago and have no idea when I'll get the second as they couldn't give me a date. " I think down here you get the date based on the numbers of weeks since the first dose My parents got their second dose today 4 weeks after the first | |||
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"Anyone I know who got theirs at a vaccination centre rather than their GP got dates for between 10 and 12 weeks after the first. None of those who got it through the GP like I did have a second date. I assumed the GP couldn't give a date as they didn't know if or when they would have available stock. " RB my Mum and Dad both got theirs through their GP and they were given a card when leaving with their next vaccination appointment on it.. Which was 12 weeks later for them. | |||
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"Anyone I know who got theirs at a vaccination centre rather than their GP got dates for between 10 and 12 weeks after the first. None of those who got it through the GP like I did have a second date. I assumed the GP couldn't give a date as they didn't know if or when they would have available stock. RB my Mum and Dad both got theirs through their GP and they were given a card when leaving with their next vaccination appointment on it.. Which was 12 weeks later for them. " I got a card but the next appt was blank as was each of my family members and others. | |||
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"Anyone I know who got theirs at a vaccination centre rather than their GP got dates for between 10 and 12 weeks after the first. None of those who got it through the GP like I did have a second date. I assumed the GP couldn't give a date as they didn't know if or when they would have available stock. RB my Mum and Dad both got theirs through their GP and they were given a card when leaving with their next vaccination appointment on it.. Which was 12 weeks later for them. I got a card but the next appt was blank as was each of my family members and others. " Oh right maybe different GP practices are working differently then?! | |||
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"Anyone I know who got theirs at a vaccination centre rather than their GP got dates for between 10 and 12 weeks after the first. None of those who got it through the GP like I did have a second date. I assumed the GP couldn't give a date as they didn't know if or when they would have available stock. RB my Mum and Dad both got theirs through their GP and they were given a card when leaving with their next vaccination appointment on it.. Which was 12 weeks later for them. I got a card but the next appt was blank as was each of my family members and others. Oh right maybe different GP practices are working differently then?! " must be. a relation of mine goe vaxed and got his return appointment leaving the GPs office. | |||
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"Anyone I know who got theirs at a vaccination centre rather than their GP got dates for between 10 and 12 weeks after the first. None of those who got it through the GP like I did have a second date. I assumed the GP couldn't give a date as they didn't know if or when they would have available stock. " That's right. When you book online for a vaccination centre (in NI) you automatically receive the date for your second dose at the time of booking your first | |||
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"No. Not because of any moralising. I am perfectly healthy and don't need a vaccine for something that will not make me ill or which in fact, does not make the majority ill. Please don't give me any high ground moralising guff as it will get no response. " You do not know for certain it will not make you ill. I know more than one who were young, extremely fit and well yet ended up in hospital with this thing | |||
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"No. Not because of any moralising. I am perfectly healthy and don't need a vaccine for something that will not make me ill or which in fact, does not make the majority ill. Please don't give me any high ground moralising guff as it will get no response. " So thats a no to the yes or no question.....moving swiftly along | |||
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"A friend calls,she works in a hospital,she has some left over vaccine and say its yours if you can make it in an hour.. Yes or no....no other option....she'll ring other friends on her phone Would you ....no explanation needed" Nope. Far more deserving people in front of us for the vaccine. Yes I want but I'm going not going to be an entitled POS for it. | |||
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