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By *osmicGate OP   Man
over a year ago

louth

So the government has made a bollix of the vaccine roll out.. Its at a snails pace.. Many elderly peoples vaccines have been cancelled.. Should we be surprised?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not at all

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Not a fan of the government, quite contrary but not sure about this can be blamed on them as the major f**k up was done by the EU by messing up procurement of the vaccine. We're close to 450'000 people having got at least the first jab, that's a 10% of the population, that's at least a start.

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By *edro50Man
over a year ago

enniskillen

Are you against taking the vaccine or are you pissed off that the government isn't getting it in quick enough?

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By *osmicGate OP   Man
over a year ago

louth


"Are you against taking the vaccine or are you pissed off that the government isn't getting it in quick enough?"

Just not quick enough

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By *edro50Man
over a year ago

enniskillen

Well that's simple it's supply and demand and it's a worldwide crisis! and only the countries that are actually manufacturing the vaccine seem to be ahead except USA because they can't organise a piss up in a brewery! that's how it's coming across to me anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its an EU level procurement of vaccine and the HSE have kept very close to administrating the number of vaccines as they come into the country..

We are well above average in the EU for doses provided per population.

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By *edro50Man
over a year ago

enniskillen

Exactly but like everything else they can only fill orders so quickly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

EU have made a mess of it no doubt but nothing stopping us breaking ranks and going after our own. Like Denmark are doing. Our shower of muppets dont have that in them. But even with the supply issues from manufacturers we are still making a balls of it. Even the vaccines already here are not being administered properly. It's a total shambles and sadly not at all unexpected. Has there been one thing in this government's and hse's track record so far to suggest they will get this right?? No chance. The way it's being handled worldwide in general I wouldnt be at all surprised if a new strain comes along immune to these vaccines. This Brazlian one sounds worrying by all accounts

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By *edro50Man
over a year ago

enniskillen

It's like the Sars virus years ago they're still fighting that in parts of the world! it's simple we have been very lucky with viruses in recent years and once we get the vaccine we will still be wearing masks in public places for a very long time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have two incompetent bodies involved with the vaccine rollout.

Government

HSE

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

3% fully vaxed since December. donnelly on today seeing can ireland get extra doses of vaccines besides the EU doses. the UK model is giving as many as possible the first shot. they are doing their own thing. Good luck to them if it works but the speed here would seriously need to ramp up in the next few months.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

question, do you think things will return to normal without 90% or more taking the vaccine?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Define normal? I don't think so

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"Define normal? I don't think so "
normal is normal life pre covid. living life without restriction.

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By *inxnmasterCouple
over a year ago

naughty valley


"question, do you think things will return to normal without 90% or more taking the vaccine?"

yes, I believe we could open up Ireland immediately .

Whilst I don’t deny that the virus can be lethal for some - make your math . There is a decease out there so deadly that you need to be tested whether you have it and statistics published which have been proven to be rather dodgy , i cannot see any longer the hype about it .

Someone who has been tested over three weeks several times - each test counts as new incident ! See TD McNamarra interviewing NPHET. Announced death cases contain almost every time numbers from prior periods . What’s this for ? Why reporting 209 dead in february which include fatalities from last year Didn’t they knew last year ? And how come they know now after the person is cremated and can no longer be researched for the true cause of death . People going to hospital for a broken leg who apparently are positive tested are accounted as Covid case in hospital , not for his leg

Death certificate stating Covid though very one knew the person was terminal stage of cancer ...I can go on and in .

those in charge got away with screwing the economy in the financial crisis , screwed the public in austerity , got away with the mother and child houses , the cervical cancer scandal and you really belief all this hoohaa is about them being concern about Sean and Deirdres healthy well being ? Or of those in nursery homes ? Does anyone really belief they are worried about nurses being overwhelmed with the @pandemic? The same scroungers who give themself pay rises and deny nurses a long deserved pay raise Or refuse to pay trainees in frontline in excessive hour shifts to get paid for it ?

These are the one who tell you how mortal this killer virus is which may has killed 0.4 % per annum or less ?

...and most measures taken are in fact decreasing the strength of your immunity system - in such a deadly decease should that not be the first thing we should take care off. Then offering salvation by vaccination with vaccines who went they accelerated approval process - mind you the orders to buy were placed long before approval .

It’s up to this country’s people to turn matters as those in charge have only one single concern - the sustainment of their status quo . If everyone wakes up to this horrific fuckup , these guys have to run for cover

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There will be a new normal. People will be very careful how they mix. Working remotely has become more important where productivity is maintained

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"There will be a new normal. People will be very careful how they mix. Working remotely has become more important where productivity is maintained "
I know many who would get back to the old normal of mixing non stop in the morning. talk of mixing. a big party in a pub or a celebration. the idea of vaccines is a return to normal. its upto companies if they adopt the fear process.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Define normal? I don't think so normal is normal life pre covid. living life without restriction. "

No, restrictions as we have now, hopefully not, but certainly a lot of changes as even with 100% vaccinated the virus will most certainly still exist and be transmittable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"question, do you think things will return to normal without 90% or more taking the vaccine?

yes, I believe we could open up Ireland immediately .

Whilst I don’t deny that the virus can be lethal for some - make your math . There is a decease out there so deadly that you need to be tested whether you have it and statistics published which have been proven to be rather dodgy , i cannot see any longer the hype about it .

Someone who has been tested over three weeks several times - each test counts as new incident ! See TD McNamarra interviewing NPHET. Announced death cases contain almost every time numbers from prior periods . What’s this for ? Why reporting 209 dead in february which include fatalities from last year Didn’t they knew last year ? And how come they know now after the person is cremated and can no longer be researched for the true cause of death . People going to hospital for a broken leg who apparently are positive tested are accounted as Covid case in hospital , not for his leg

Death certificate stating Covid though very one knew the person was terminal stage of cancer ...I can go on and in .

those in charge got away with screwing the economy in the financial crisis , screwed the public in austerity , got away with the mother and child houses , the cervical cancer scandal and you really belief all this hoohaa is about them being concern about Sean and Deirdres healthy well being ? Or of those in nursery homes ? Does anyone really belief they are worried about nurses being overwhelmed with the @pandemic? The same scroungers who give themself pay rises and deny nurses a long deserved pay raise Or refuse to pay trainees in frontline in excessive hour shifts to get paid for it ?

These are the one who tell you how mortal this killer virus is which may has killed 0.4 % per annum or less ?

...and most measures taken are in fact decreasing the strength of your immunity system - in such a deadly decease should that not be the first thing we should take care off. Then offering salvation by vaccination with vaccines who went they accelerated approval process - mind you the orders to buy were placed long before approval .

It’s up to this country’s people to turn matters as those in charge have only one single concern - the sustainment of their status quo . If everyone wakes up to this horrific fuckup , these guys have to run for cover

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Private hospitals are getting paid for treating covid patients so anyone that dies there get a covid sticker even if they had other serious illness

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"Define normal? I don't think so normal is normal life pre covid. living life without restriction.

No, restrictions as we have now, hopefully not, but certainly a lot of changes as even with 100% vaccinated the virus will most certainly still exist and be transmittable. "
the idea of vaccine is to stop hospital treatment and a return to normal. more then likely a booster shot will be needed each year just like a normal flu. I can't wait for the day of living life without restriction. level 2 3 4 and 5 are all restrictions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree, it's painful but that's life sometimes, it's up and it's down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ll wait 6 months before I cast judgement on the success or failure of the vaccine rollout. I think it’s too soon to judge.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"I’ll wait 6 months before I cast judgement on the success or failure of the vaccine rollout. I think it’s too soon to judge."
it is but the outlook doesn't look good. something drastic will have to change and the sad thing is, reopening will be based on vacc % rollout.

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By *ungry CatCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

Never mind vaccine roll out. It took us 6 weeks to get a new dishwasher delivered ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never mind vaccine roll out. It took us 6 weeks to get a new dishwasher delivered ffs "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I believe we could open up Ireland immediately .

Whilst I don’t deny that the virus can be lethal for some - make your math . There is a decease out there so deadly that you need to be tested whether you have it and statistics published which have been proven to be rather dodgy , i cannot see any longer the hype about it .

Someone who has been tested over three weeks several times - each test counts as new incident ! See TD McNamarra interviewing NPHET. Announced death cases contain almost every time numbers from prior periods . What’s this for ? Why reporting 209 dead in february which include fatalities from last year   Didn’t they knew last year ? And how come they know now after the person is cremated and can no longer be researched for the true cause of death . People going to hospital for a broken leg who apparently are positive tested are accounted as Covid case in hospital , not for his leg

Death certificate stating Covid though very one knew the person was terminal stage of cancer ...I can go on and in .

those in charge got away with screwing the economy in the financial crisis , screwed the public in austerity , got away with the mother and child houses , the cervical cancer scandal and you really belief all this hoohaa is about them being concern about Sean and Deirdres healthy well being ? Or of those in nursery homes ? Does anyone really belief they are worried about nurses being overwhelmed with the @pandemic? The same scroungers who give themself pay rises and deny nurses a long deserved pay raise   Or refuse to pay trainees in frontline in excessive hour shifts to get paid for it ?

These are the one who tell you how mortal this killer virus is which may has killed 0.4 % per annum or less ?

...and most measures taken are in fact decreasing the strength of your immunity system - in such a deadly decease should that not be the first thing we should take care off. Then offering salvation by vaccination with vaccines who went they accelerated approval process - mind you the orders to buy were placed long before approval .

It’s up to this country’s people to turn matters as those in charge have only one single concern - the sustainment of their status quo . If everyone wakes up to this horrific fuckup , these guys have to run for cover

"

Who do you follow for news, Gemma or Doherty? Christ its worrying how many tin foil hat wearing, conspiracy theorist sheep's we have developed through social media these days.

1. They report deaths from periods in the past because in Ireland you have up to 90 days to register a death, usually by next of kin. Some people have other things on their mind that they are not rushing down to the birts and death Office to register a loved ones death. Thats why it can be reported up to 3 months back. No conspiracy there.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/death/after_a_death/death_cert.html

2. The Word Health Organisation WHO recommend that heath officials in each country report CV19 as cause of death even if it is reported as secondary or third reason for death. Because someone died of a preexisting heart condition doesn't mean that because they contracted COVID and the pressure from serious respiratory condition didn't overload the heart to cause or be part of the cause of death.

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/WHO-2019-nCoV-mortality-reporting-2020-1

3. The only reason the death count here is 'only' 4000+ deaths is because the vast majority in this country have compiled with the health and safety recommendations put in place. You can see within short space of time from December to February how bad this could get if people let their guard down as they did in build up to Christmas and over Xmas. We have over 2000 deaths since Christmas so do the maths to see what the numbers could have been if preventative measures were not taken before and after this. The mortality rate here stands at 2% of people who have contracted covid or 90 per 100,000 of population. Belgium have nearly 200 per 100,000 people who have died. These are not insignificant numbers even though its 'just' older people or people with underlying conditions who are dying.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

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By *iamo69Man
over a year ago

South

Got my vaccine today in work.. Was in two minds but fuck it took the plunge

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"I believe we could open up Ireland immediately .

Whilst I don’t deny that the virus can be lethal for some - make your math . There is a decease out there so deadly that you need to be tested whether you have it and statistics published which have been proven to be rather dodgy , i cannot see any longer the hype about it .

Someone who has been tested over three weeks several times - each test counts as new incident ! See TD McNamarra interviewing NPHET. Announced death cases contain almost every time numbers from prior periods . What’s this for ? Why reporting 209 dead in february which include fatalities from last year   Didn’t they knew last year ? And how come they know now after the person is cremated and can no longer be researched for the true cause of death . People going to hospital for a broken leg who apparently are positive tested are accounted as Covid case in hospital , not for his leg

Death certificate stating Covid though very one knew the person was terminal stage of cancer ...I can go on and in .

those in charge got away with screwing the economy in the financial crisis , screwed the public in austerity , got away with the mother and child houses , the cervical cancer scandal and you really belief all this hoohaa is about them being concern about Sean and Deirdres healthy well being ? Or of those in nursery homes ? Does anyone really belief they are worried about nurses being overwhelmed with the @pandemic? The same scroungers who give themself pay rises and deny nurses a long deserved pay raise   Or refuse to pay trainees in frontline in excessive hour shifts to get paid for it ?

These are the one who tell you how mortal this killer virus is which may has killed 0.4 % per annum or less ?

...and most measures taken are in fact decreasing the strength of your immunity system - in such a deadly decease should that not be the first thing we should take care off. Then offering salvation by vaccination with vaccines who went they accelerated approval process - mind you the orders to buy were placed long before approval .

It’s up to this country’s people to turn matters as those in charge have only one single concern - the sustainment of their status quo . If everyone wakes up to this horrific fuckup , these guys have to run for cover

Who do you follow for news, Gemma or Doherty? Christ its worrying how many tin foil hat wearing, conspiracy theorist sheep's we have developed through social media these days.

1. They report deaths from periods in the past because in Ireland you have up to 90 days to register a death, usually by next of kin. Some people have other things on their mind that they are not rushing down to the birts and death Office to register a loved ones death. Thats why it can be reported up to 3 months back. No conspiracy there.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/death/after_a_death/death_cert.html

2. The Word Health Organisation WHO recommend that heath officials in each country report CV19 as cause of death even if it is reported as secondary or third reason for death. Because someone died of a preexisting heart condition doesn't mean that because they contracted COVID and the pressure from serious respiratory condition didn't overload the heart to cause or be part of the cause of death.

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/WHO-2019-nCoV-mortality-reporting-2020-1

3. The only reason the death count here is 'only' 4000+ deaths is because the vast majority in this country have compiled with the health and safety recommendations put in place. You can see within short space of time from December to February how bad this could get if people let their guard down as they did in build up to Christmas and over Xmas. We have over 2000 deaths since Christmas so do the maths to see what the numbers could have been if preventative measures were not taken before and after this. The mortality rate here stands at 2% of people who have contracted covid or 90 per 100,000 of population. Belgium have nearly 200 per 100,000 people who have died. These are not insignificant numbers even though its 'just' older people or people with underlying conditions who are dying.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

"

I don't understand why being critical and questioning figures always needs to result in name calling and insults. Do you know we wouldn't evolve if nobody questions authorities and highlights matters from a different angle. We still would believe the earth is flat.

Speaking of sheeple believe how do you know the sites you are quoting are reliable? Do you believe everything the government is putting out there?

You cite the WHO, an organisation which was very slow at the beginning of the pandemic to react and held information back for waybtoo long. How can we be sure now that their approach to count death is the best way and let's be honest it does blurr the figures. Behind every organisation are human beings and unfortunately we're all fallible. Here a little link how worldwide authorities have failed over the last year. And I don't even start with the Irish one.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/world/europe/virus-WHO-report-failures.amp.html

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By *rictheking20Man
over a year ago

Galway

Ye all still laughing at the brits so lads and ladies?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Getting my second jab on Monday. The first one went fine. No sickness just tender at injection spot

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Ireland left behind again in their supposed supply of vaccine. well short of the total they were to receive. how are your local GPS doing?

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By *upermanslovechildMan
over a year ago

Glasnevin


"Ye all still laughing at the brits so lads and ladies?

"

Well yeah, because fuck 'em.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"Ye all still laughing at the brits so lads and ladies?

Well yeah, because fuck 'em."
remains to be seen does the Brits way work out for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have had my second jab. Just the arm tenderness and temperature up slightly

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

Shortage of vaccines . America 90 million vaccinated. Uk millions northern Ireland half population done . Poor paddy lagging behind . As usual

. Could any if there people in mayo . Bullshitting about joe bidon . Get on to their relative and ask him for a few million doses .. please

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By *osmicGate OP   Man
over a year ago

louth


"Ye all still laughing at the brits so lads and ladies?

"

Funny how Ireland goes running to the brits cap in hand in times of need.. Think we forget we are not part of UK anymore.. Only 100 years out of it.. Why would they help Ireland?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have two incompetent bodies involved with the vaccine rollout.

Government

HSE "
would you like to suggest how to give out more vaccines than they have

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"We have two incompetent bodies involved with the vaccine rollout.

Government

HSE would you like to suggest how to give out more vaccines than they have "
the EU fucked up and were part of the EU. i think there was an option though to buy in extras and we didn't go there. martin announcing today that level 5 mostly will last till mid May is another nail into peoples hearts. fuck knows when you'll get reprieve.

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

They didn't take up the option of ordering more at the start ... ..

As for the hse . Paul reid should be sacked . Fingal co Council couldn't wait to get rid of him .

Gp . Down the country received a box of vaccines when opened. It contained leaflets . Its being run like Faulty Towers

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By *lay2018Couple
over a year ago

westmeath & roscommon.


"question, do you think things will return to normal without 90% or more taking the vaccine?"

The normal we knew is over. There is going to be a new normal were all going to have to live with. The life we knew is over!

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"question, do you think things will return to normal without 90% or more taking the vaccine?

The normal we knew is over. There is going to be a new normal were all going to have to live with. The life we knew is over! "
I would wholeheartedly disagree with that. if there is a new normal then you're going to be living some type of restrictive life forever. never have the free will of doing what u want in life ever again. I can't see that happening. I see today the EU have approved the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. could make a big difference in the speed up process in the sense u only need one jab.

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By *cean1963Man
over a year ago

n6

This government are a scandal. The hardest lockdown in europe and we are still no betrer off than 12 months ago. Its time for we the people to demand accountability and get this country back from these clowns

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our government aren't the only ones making a mess. Over 600k doses of the vaccine dumped in France

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"Our government aren't the only ones making a mess. Over 600k doses of the vaccine dumped in France "
most of the fresh wont take it. r o gara (rugby) coaches la Rochelle in France. 35 of backroom team are French. only one took the vaccine.

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By *inxnmasterCouple
over a year ago

naughty valley


"question, do you think things will return to normal without 90% or more taking the vaccine?

The normal we knew is over. There is going to be a new normal were all going to have to live with. The life we knew is over! I would wholeheartedly disagree with that. if there is a new normal then you're going to be living some type of restrictive life forever. never have the free will of doing what u want in life ever again. I can't see that happening. I see today the EU have approved the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. could make a big difference in the speed up process in the sense u only need one jab. "

No one can take your natural rights from you as defined by human rights charter and constitution - though there maybe attempts . However no government nor state authority is in the legal position to determine which of your natural rights shall be granted to you in return for whatever compliance . No law issued by an elected government can overrule this natural right . Any attempt to do so is nothing short of a dictatorial approach . This is why the “Covid rules” set are difficult to police as it crosses the line. E.g the forced isolation of people arriving in Ireland cannot be enforced by gardai as this would be illegitimate imprisonment. Arriving in Ireland us not a criminal offense . Even not staying in a hotel at one own cost but going home instead will hardly have legal success to be prosecuted

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"question, do you think things will return to normal without 90% or more taking the vaccine?

The normal we knew is over. There is going to be a new normal were all going to have to live with. The life we knew is over! I would wholeheartedly disagree with that. if there is a new normal then you're going to be living some type of restrictive life forever. never have the free will of doing what u want in life ever again. I can't see that happening. I see today the EU have approved the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. could make a big difference in the speed up process in the sense u only need one jab.

No one can take your natural rights from you as defined by human rights charter and constitution - though there maybe attempts . However no government nor state authority is in the legal position to determine which of your natural rights shall be granted to you in return for whatever compliance . No law issued by an elected government can overrule this natural right . Any attempt to do so is nothing short of a dictatorial approach . This is why the “Covid rules” set are difficult to police as it crosses the line. E.g the forced isolation of people arriving in Ireland cannot be enforced by gardai as this would be illegitimate imprisonment. Arriving in Ireland us not a criminal offense . Even not staying in a hotel at one own cost but going home instead will hardly have legal success to be prosecuted "
I get your post but with so many places closed, and you're been told what u cant do, life is refined. I also feel and this is the hardest part, you'll have no big amount of normality until a big % are vaccinated where as alot thought once the vulnerable were jabbed, a huge amount would return.

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By *ohng69Man
over a year ago

athenry


"Our government aren't the only ones making a mess. Over 600k doses of the vaccine dumped in France most of the fresh wont take it. r o gara (rugby) coaches la Rochelle in France. 35 of backroom team are French. only one took the vaccine. "
and these are an accurate representation of the whole French population??

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"Our government aren't the only ones making a mess. Over 600k doses of the vaccine dumped in France most of the fresh wont take it. r o gara (rugby) coaches la Rochelle in France. 35 of backroom team are French. only one took the vaccine. and these are an accurate representation of the whole French population?? "
no. Read the news article this morning and read the post. tonnes of French people won't take it. thats why the vaccines are been dumped.

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By *ohng69Man
over a year ago

athenry


"Our government aren't the only ones making a mess. Over 600k doses of the vaccine dumped in France most of the fresh wont take it. r o gara (rugby) coaches la Rochelle in France. 35 of backroom team are French. only one took the vaccine. and these are an accurate representation of the whole French population?? no. Read the news article this morning and read the post. tonnes of French people won't take it. thats why the vaccines are been dumped. "
ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Our government aren't the only ones making a mess. Over 600k doses of the vaccine dumped in France most of the fresh wont take it. r o gara (rugby) coaches la Rochelle in France. 35 of backroom team are French. only one took the vaccine. and these are an accurate representation of the whole French population?? no. Read the news article this morning and read the post. tonnes of French people won't take it. thats why the vaccines are been dumped. "

It was actually to do with the use of a different syringe and there was a qty of doses given with some remaining when it was suggested to use the remaining vaccine the government said no and dumped it

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"Our government aren't the only ones making a mess. Over 600k doses of the vaccine dumped in France most of the fresh wont take it. r o gara (rugby) coaches la Rochelle in France. 35 of backroom team are French. only one took the vaccine. and these are an accurate representation of the whole French population?? no. Read the news article this morning and read the post. tonnes of French people won't take it. thats why the vaccines are been dumped.

It was actually to do with the use of a different syringe and there was a qty of doses given with some remaining when it was suggested to use the remaining vaccine the government said no and dumped it "
there was a vaccine survey done last month in France and loads said they would refuse the vaccine. someone else said they're not surprised as its a French mentality but the vaccine here in Ireland and most taking it seems to be the only way back

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By *entleman PoliteMan
over a year ago

Mars

Well it might be better to be slow because the news from others countries reports(which countries are showing details). AstraZeneca is now banned in few countries.

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By *ofusplusCouple
over a year ago

Limerick


"question, do you think things will return to normal without 90% or more taking the vaccine?

The normal we knew is over. There is going to be a new normal were all going to have to live with. The life we knew is over! "

A bit negative

I disagree by the way, normal life shall return.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Johnson and Johnson vaccine just been approved for use in Europe so that might speed things up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"question, do you think things will return to normal without 90% or more taking the vaccine?

The normal we knew is over. There is going to be a new normal were all going to have to live with. The life we knew is over!

A bit negative

I disagree by the way, normal life shall return."

Besides which, most people spent their time whinging about it when they had it!!

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By *ajobMan
over a year ago

Newtownabbey


"Ye all still laughing at the brits so lads and ladies?

Well yeah, because fuck 'em.remains to be seen does the Brits way work out for them."

Seems to be working....getting as many folk jabbed asap will help reduce the severity off anyone catching covid after a few weeks from the 1st jab.. then its bout a 10 week wait...studies have shown percentage ways to be very good....besides...anything is better than nothing atm.....itll take sone time for places to be concidered to have herd immunity...i watched and read dr faucci in america say anything from 75 to 85% population vaccinated to be concidered reaching herd immunity...more nearer the 85% going by measles and flu standards..so yeah

Get your jabs when they come and lets hope for a better summer and so on

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary


"Ye all still laughing at the brits so lads and ladies?

Well yeah, because fuck 'em.remains to be seen does the Brits way work out for them.

Seems to be working....getting as many folk jabbed asap will help reduce the severity off anyone catching covid after a few weeks from the 1st jab.. then its bout a 10 week wait...studies have shown percentage ways to be very good....besides...anything is better than nothing atm.....itll take sone time for places to be concidered to have herd immunity...i watched and read dr faucci in america say anything from 75 to 85% population vaccinated to be concidered reaching herd immunity...more nearer the 85% going by measles and flu standards..so yeah

Get your jabs when they come and lets hope for a better summer and so on "
if it works for them fair play. it seems to be flying at the moment.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1st dose alone is meant to provide very substantial protection.

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By *inxnmasterCouple
over a year ago

naughty valley


"1st dose alone is meant to provide very substantial protection. "

i dare to doubt it. A German staff member of mine has taken time off to bury his mother . She got the Pfizer jab end of January and the second mid February . She passed away age 82 two days ago - cause of death Covid 19! She was tested negative before first and second jab . His aunt who hit the jab same days as her sister is still in process of dying .

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

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over a year ago


"1st dose alone is meant to provide very substantial protection.

i dare to doubt it. A German staff member of mine has taken time off to bury his mother . She got the Pfizer jab end of January and the second mid February . She passed away age 82 two days ago - cause of death Covid 19! She was tested negative before first and second jab . His aunt who hit the jab same days as her sister is still in process of dying .

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

"

Unfortunately with all vaccines, some immune systems simply wont respond to it. This has always been the case and we need to rely on the rest of the population getting vaccinated to protect these people. If I was to hazard a guess, id say these two sisters suffered the same genetics and were one of the unfortunate ones

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By *osmicGate OP   Man
over a year ago

louth


"1st dose alone is meant to provide very substantial protection.

i dare to doubt it. A German staff member of mine has taken time off to bury his mother . She got the Pfizer jab end of January and the second mid February . She passed away age 82 two days ago - cause of death Covid 19! She was tested negative before first and second jab . His aunt who hit the jab same days as her sister is still in process of dying .

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

"

I've been saying all along the vaccine wont work.. In 2 or 3 years time the vaccines of today will be useless as covid is constantly mutating and will bypass the immune system and keep on killing.. People think once they get a vaccine everything will go back to normal but its only a sticking plaster for the time being until new variants arrive to cause havoc..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

"

It's well documented that Pfizer efficacy is ~95% so those ladies could unfortunately be in the 5% or could have picked up the virus before it was fully effective on them. There is plenty of real world evidence showing it works rather than 2nd or 3rd hand stories shared on a swingers forum.

Without knowing the full details of their cases probably best not speculating on Internet maybe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

It's well documented that Pfizer efficacy is ~95% so those ladies could unfortunately be in the 5% or could have picked up the virus before it was fully effective on them. There is plenty of real world evidence showing it works rather than 2nd or 3rd hand stories shared on a swingers forum.

Without knowing the full details of their cases probably best not speculating on Internet maybe?

"

Yeah, I don't personally recall any vaccine manufacturer claiming 100% protection. I wonder if people actually understand what that means.

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By *inxnmasterCouple
over a year ago

naughty valley


"

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

It's well documented that Pfizer efficacy is ~95% so those ladies could unfortunately be in the 5% or could have picked up the virus before it was fully effective on them. There is plenty of real world evidence showing it works rather than 2nd or 3rd hand stories shared on a swingers forum.

Without knowing the full details of their cases probably best not speculating on Internet maybe?

"

Actually I am the employer of this poor German fellow, so I got this story first hand and not hearsay . You don’t know me and whilst you are entitled your opinion you ate not qualified to degrade my statement to hearsay nor are you entitled to regulate me where and when I state what I want to say to the subject on a public thread covering this matter

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By *kcoupleCouple
over a year ago

.....


"

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

It's well documented that Pfizer efficacy is ~95% so those ladies could unfortunately be in the 5% or could have picked up the virus before it was fully effective on them. There is plenty of real world evidence showing it works rather than 2nd or 3rd hand stories shared on a swingers forum.

Without knowing the full details of their cases probably best not speculating on Internet maybe?

Actually I am the employer of this poor German fellow, so I got this story first hand and not hearsay . You don’t know me and whilst you are entitled your opinion you ate not qualified to degrade my statement to hearsay nor are you entitled to regulate me where and when I state what I want to say to the subject on a public thread covering this matter "

Can I ask if this in some way changes your opinion towards the vaccine. I don't actually know what your views on it are but I'm just interested to know how other people's experiences change how they view the vaccine itself.

Mrs had the vaccine last week and got most of not all of the ten most common side effects and still doesn't feel great. That said we would both still take it as in our view the known risks are far outweighed by the benifits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

It's well documented that Pfizer efficacy is ~95% so those ladies could unfortunately be in the 5% or could have picked up the virus before it was fully effective on them. There is plenty of real world evidence showing it works rather than 2nd or 3rd hand stories shared on a swingers forum.

Without knowing the full details of their cases probably best not speculating on Internet maybe?

Actually I am the employer of this poor German fellow, so I got this story first hand and not hearsay . You don’t know me and whilst you are entitled your opinion you ate not qualified to degrade my statement to hearsay nor are you entitled to regulate me where and when I state what I want to say to the subject on a public thread covering this matter "

1. I didn't degrade your statement. You asked for people to come up with new conspiracies theories and I tried to give you potential reasoning based of vaccine efficacy for what you stated.

2. Although you haven't mentioned names there are probably only a very small subset of German guys working in Ireland who's 82 year old mother has recently died of covid and aunt who is currently dying. Not sure id be comfortable with my employer using my family tradegy to stir online conspiracy regarding vaccine efficacy

3. I'm done with these covid/vaccine debates as neither side will change their views and all it does is increases the stress levels of people reading this shit

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By *appytoadsCouple
over a year ago

West Dublin

I believe we missed a trick by not employing a successful logistic firm to manage the roll out, don't believe HSE has the experience or knowledge to manage the roll out, a girl I know got the vaccine because she is front line worker, also volunteers with a another organisation which helps elderly or sick, she has been contacted twice since to come for a vaccine although she already got done. Dosent fill me with a lot of confidence that this is happening. But good new J&J vaccine is on the way

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

a work colleague of mines daughter ended up in hospital last night after first shot of vaccine. at the end of the day its your own personal choice. if your not in a high risk category some wont take it but the country won't resume to normality without 80% or so taking it so in a way, if you want normality your hands are tied.

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By *inxnmasterCouple
over a year ago

naughty valley


"

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

It's well documented that Pfizer efficacy is ~95% so those ladies could unfortunately be in the 5% or could have picked up the virus before it was fully effective on them. There is plenty of real world evidence showing it works rather than 2nd or 3rd hand stories shared on a swingers forum.

Without knowing the full details of their cases probably best not speculating on Internet maybe?

Actually I am the employer of this poor German fellow, so I got this story first hand and not hearsay . You don’t know me and whilst you are entitled your opinion you ate not qualified to degrade my statement to hearsay nor are you entitled to regulate me where and when I state what I want to say to the subject on a public thread covering this matter

Can I ask if this in some way changes your opinion towards the vaccine. I don't actually know what your views on it are but I'm just interested to know how other people's experiences change how they view the vaccine itself.

Mrs had the vaccine last week and got most of not all of the ten most common side effects and still doesn't feel great. That said we would both still take it as in our view the known risks are far outweighed by the benifits"

I am not an anti vaxxer, as I travel all around the world and have had all kind of jabs for various deadly deceases. However I am fully aware that those vaccinations I got are not pretending that I couldn’t get one of the decease , they are meant to ensure a mild or manageable impact in case I catch one . All the vaccines went thru a lengthy process of scrutiny before deployed . That is not the case on any of those new COV19 vaccines .

Since I have no illusions that all Europe will be forced directly or indirectly to get vaccinated as the majority of its population handed in their natural rights for an illusion of safety against a media hyped threat( mind you Cov19 is real and can be dangerous for some )

Therefor I am waiting for Sputnik V to become available . Russian medical research is well advanced , by far beyond Western imagination and - since it was developed for the purpose of finding a solution for the problem rather than profit I have more trust that side effects maybe manageable . Sputnik V is most used across LatAm and according to my sources on the ground there , no major complication has occurred - and I am sure it would be all over the press if there were any

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By *kcoupleCouple
over a year ago

.....


"

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

It's well documented that Pfizer efficacy is ~95% so those ladies could unfortunately be in the 5% or could have picked up the virus before it was fully effective on them. There is plenty of real world evidence showing it works rather than 2nd or 3rd hand stories shared on a swingers forum.

Without knowing the full details of their cases probably best not speculating on Internet maybe?

Actually I am the employer of this poor German fellow, so I got this story first hand and not hearsay . You don’t know me and whilst you are entitled your opinion you ate not qualified to degrade my statement to hearsay nor are you entitled to regulate me where and when I state what I want to say to the subject on a public thread covering this matter

Can I ask if this in some way changes your opinion towards the vaccine. I don't actually know what your views on it are but I'm just interested to know how other people's experiences change how they view the vaccine itself.

Mrs had the vaccine last week and got most of not all of the ten most common side effects and still doesn't feel great. That said we would both still take it as in our view the known risks are far outweighed by the benifits

I am not an anti vaxxer, as I travel all around the world and have had all kind of jabs for various deadly deceases. However I am fully aware that those vaccinations I got are not pretending that I couldn’t get one of the decease , they are meant to ensure a mild or manageable impact in case I catch one . All the vaccines went thru a lengthy process of scrutiny before deployed . That is not the case on any of those new COV19 vaccines .

Since I have no illusions that all Europe will be forced directly or indirectly to get vaccinated as the majority of its population handed in their natural rights for an illusion of safety against a media hyped threat( mind you Cov19 is real and can be dangerous for some )

Therefor I am waiting for Sputnik V to become available . Russian medical research is well advanced , by far beyond Western imagination and - since it was developed for the purpose of finding a solution for the problem rather than profit I have more trust that side effects maybe manageable . Sputnik V is most used across LatAm and according to my sources on the ground there , no major complication has occurred - and I am sure it would be all over the press if there were any

"

Just to be clear I hadn't even considered asking if you are anti vax but seeing as that's the route you want to take the conversation... so you're not anti vax just anti European vax which was produced in the same time scale as Sputnik by one of the most corrupt governments in the world. Am I right so far ? Do you think the make up of Sputnik will have changed between now and the time it is available here (if it is ever available here) and if so what literature or studies lead you te believe it is a better alternative or is it word of mouth from medical professionals or Joe soaps ?.

To be up front I've spent 20 years working in pharma so while I've zero interest in debating with those who don't. I do however have a great interest in how people form opinions be they right or wrong. Let's call it curiosity

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By *iktikiCouple
over a year ago

cork


"So the government has made a bollix of the vaccine roll out.. Its at a snails pace.. Many elderly peoples vaccines have been cancelled.. Should we be surprised? "

Not cancelled just postponed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think the government lost the people a while back on this one. OK, supply is the issue but they keep putting up target figures and keep missing (is it 18 or something to date) so if they were just honest and told what was really going on then there'd be more respect. Mehole was trumpeting during the week about 46,000 more doses... That 23,000 double doses which us the population of a small town.... Not nearly good enough

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By *ajobMan
over a year ago

Newtownabbey


"

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

It's well documented that Pfizer efficacy is ~95% so those ladies could unfortunately be in the 5% or could have picked up the virus before it was fully effective on them. There is plenty of real world evidence showing it works rather than 2nd or 3rd hand stories shared on a swingers forum.

Without knowing the full details of their cases probably best not speculating on Internet maybe?

Actually I am the employer of this poor German fellow, so I got this story first hand and not hearsay . You don’t know me and whilst you are entitled your opinion you ate not qualified to degrade my statement to hearsay nor are you entitled to regulate me where and when I state what I want to say to the subject on a public thread covering this matter

Can I ask if this in some way changes your opinion towards the vaccine. I don't actually know what your views on it are but I'm just interested to know how other people's experiences change how they view the vaccine itself.

Mrs had the vaccine last week and got most of not all of the ten most common side effects and still doesn't feel great. That said we would both still take it as in our view the known risks are far outweighed by the benifits

I am not an anti vaxxer, as I travel all around the world and have had all kind of jabs for various deadly deceases. However I am fully aware that those vaccinations I got are not pretending that I couldn’t get one of the decease , they are meant to ensure a mild or manageable impact in case I catch one . All the vaccines went thru a lengthy process of scrutiny before deployed . That is not the case on any of those new COV19 vaccines .

Since I have no illusions that all Europe will be forced directly or indirectly to get vaccinated as the majority of its population handed in their natural rights for an illusion of safety against a media hyped threat( mind you Cov19 is real and can be dangerous for some )

Therefor I am waiting for Sputnik V to become available . Russian medical research is well advanced , by far beyond Western imagination and - since it was developed for the purpose of finding a solution for the problem rather than profit I have more trust that side effects maybe manageable . Sputnik V is most used across LatAm and according to my sources on the ground there , no major complication has occurred - and I am sure it would be all over the press if there were any

"

And you think you will get a choice of which vaccine is available to be used....your not asking for much are ya....tbh....all this scare mongering about side effects and long term stuff....is just that....social media fueled all this shit like nothing....these vaccines are here to help the population learn to live with covid,sadly some folk will still perish cause of it...just like most virus's and illness's...this is life.

The more that is available then the better off we will all be...

I couldnt care less if its the pfizer,astra one or whatever other vaccine thats about...there all here thankfully to help the world get out of this pandemic.

These vaccines are the only way out of all these lockdowns and restrictions..get yours when ya get the chance folks

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By *ajobMan
over a year ago

Newtownabbey


"a work colleague of mines daughter ended up in hospital last night after first shot of vaccine. at the end of the day its your own personal choice. if your not in a high risk category some wont take it but the country won't resume to normality without 80% or so taking it so in a way, if you want normality your hands are tied. "

Got 1st jab last month....nothing but but tender round injection spot on shoulder....nothing to worry about....most folk will be like that...some ppl can react within the 15mins of the jab in someway...thats why they get you yo either sit down at a designated seat for 15mins or wait in car 15mins if at a small local vaccination site/GPs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have my two jabs received. No serious side effects. I consider myself lucky,

Don't listen too much to scare mongers

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By *inxnmasterCouple
over a year ago

naughty valley


"

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

It's well documented that Pfizer efficacy is ~95% so those ladies could unfortunately be in the 5% or could have picked up the virus before it was fully effective on them. There is plenty of real world evidence showing it works rather than 2nd or 3rd hand stories shared on a swingers forum.

Without knowing the full details of their cases probably best not speculating on Internet maybe?

Actually I am the employer of this poor German fellow, so I got this story first hand and not hearsay . You don’t know me and whilst you are entitled your opinion you ate not qualified to degrade my statement to hearsay nor are you entitled to regulate me where and when I state what I want to say to the subject on a public thread covering this matter

Can I ask if this in some way changes your opinion towards the vaccine. I don't actually know what your views on it are but I'm just interested to know how other people's experiences change how they view the vaccine itself.

Mrs had the vaccine last week and got most of not all of the ten most common side effects and still doesn't feel great. That said we would both still take it as in our view the known risks are far outweighed by the benifits

I am not an anti vaxxer, as I travel all around the world and have had all kind of jabs for various deadly deceases. However I am fully aware that those vaccinations I got are not pretending that I couldn’t get one of the decease , they are meant to ensure a mild or manageable impact in case I catch one . All the vaccines went thru a lengthy process of scrutiny before deployed . That is not the case on any of those new COV19 vaccines .

Since I have no illusions that all Europe will be forced directly or indirectly to get vaccinated as the majority of its population handed in their natural rights for an illusion of safety against a media hyped threat( mind you Cov19 is real and can be dangerous for some )

Therefor I am waiting for Sputnik V to become available . Russian medical research is well advanced , by far beyond Western imagination and - since it was developed for the purpose of finding a solution for the problem rather than profit I have more trust that side effects maybe manageable . Sputnik V is most used across LatAm and according to my sources on the ground there , no major complication has occurred - and I am sure it would be all over the press if there were any

And you think you will get a choice of which vaccine is available to be used....your not asking for much are ya....tbh....all this scare mongering about side effects and long term stuff....is just that....social media fueled all this shit like nothing....these vaccines are here to help the population learn to live with covid,sadly some folk will still perish cause of it...just like most virus's and illness's...this is life.

The more that is available then the better off we will all be...

I couldnt care less if its the pfizer,astra one or whatever other vaccine thats about...there all here thankfully to help the world get out of this pandemic.

These vaccines are the only way out of all these lockdowns and restrictions..get yours when ya get the chance folks

"

I am in the lucky position to have a choice and will use it. As dontbesilly said - everyone should make his own choices and decision . If you are happy with your choices then who am I to blow against the wind ... even tho I may choose differently

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By *ajobMan
over a year ago

Newtownabbey


"

Can someone come up with some new conspiracies theories? Those I had have turned into reality already .

It's well documented that Pfizer efficacy is ~95% so those ladies could unfortunately be in the 5% or could have picked up the virus before it was fully effective on them. There is plenty of real world evidence showing it works rather than 2nd or 3rd hand stories shared on a swingers forum.

Without knowing the full details of their cases probably best not speculating on Internet maybe?

Actually I am the employer of this poor German fellow, so I got this story first hand and not hearsay . You don’t know me and whilst you are entitled your opinion you ate not qualified to degrade my statement to hearsay nor are you entitled to regulate me where and when I state what I want to say to the subject on a public thread covering this matter

Can I ask if this in some way changes your opinion towards the vaccine. I don't actually know what your views on it are but I'm just interested to know how other people's experiences change how they view the vaccine itself.

Mrs had the vaccine last week and got most of not all of the ten most common side effects and still doesn't feel great. That said we would both still take it as in our view the known risks are far outweighed by the benifits

I am not an anti vaxxer, as I travel all around the world and have had all kind of jabs for various deadly deceases. However I am fully aware that those vaccinations I got are not pretending that I couldn’t get one of the decease , they are meant to ensure a mild or manageable impact in case I catch one . All the vaccines went thru a lengthy process of scrutiny before deployed . That is not the case on any of those new COV19 vaccines .

Since I have no illusions that all Europe will be forced directly or indirectly to get vaccinated as the majority of its population handed in their natural rights for an illusion of safety against a media hyped threat( mind you Cov19 is real and can be dangerous for some )

Therefor I am waiting for Sputnik V to become available . Russian medical research is well advanced , by far beyond Western imagination and - since it was developed for the purpose of finding a solution for the problem rather than profit I have more trust that side effects maybe manageable . Sputnik V is most used across LatAm and according to my sources on the ground there , no major complication has occurred - and I am sure it would be all over the press if there were any

And you think you will get a choice of which vaccine is available to be used....your not asking for much are ya....tbh....all this scare mongering about side effects and long term stuff....is just that....social media fueled all this shit like nothing....these vaccines are here to help the population learn to live with covid,sadly some folk will still perish cause of it...just like most virus's and illness's...this is life.

The more that is available then the better off we will all be...

I couldnt care less if its the pfizer,astra one or whatever other vaccine thats about...there all here thankfully to help the world get out of this pandemic.

These vaccines are the only way out of all these lockdowns and restrictions..get yours when ya get the chance folks

I am in the lucky position to have a choice and will use it. As dontbesilly said - everyone should make his own choices and decision . If you are happy with your choices then who am I to blow against the wind ... even tho I may choose differently "

Everyone has there choices...its not unique for you....were all dealing with it how we can and do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dose everyone know when they reply they can delete some of the text. I just figure it out recently also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dose everyone know when they reply they can delete some of the text. I just figure it out recently also."

Haha, I know what you are saying. It only ends up closing threads early as they get too long very quickly.

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