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20% of Ireland's population born elsewhere

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So the 2016 Census showed just under 20% of Ireland's population was born elsewhere. Nearly one in every five people.

This data has likely changed since 2016, CSO figures show we had 80,000+ migrants arrived in April 2020 alone (during lockdown). I think Ireland has had a very positive experience with multi-cultural-ism relative to other places, but this seems like a break-neck pace of change.

I was having a discussion with someone a while back about this, and was wondering has there been any comparable shifts in population in modern times? The Rep of Ireland was founded in 1930s, started becoming 'western' in terms of economy in the '90s...any comparable shifts in such a short time?

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By *iscuits8Man
over a year ago

Meath / Dublin / Birmingham

The 80,000 figure sounds huge but over 56,000 also left the country that month so net migration was under 29k. That's down over 10% on the figure of the April previous.

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

There was the brain drain here in the 50s/60s that's why the Irish government lobbied the USA to make it harder to emigrate to the US and to this day we have to take part in the green card lottery

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quite a few people of my generation were born abroad and returned to Ireland with their parents while still children, as in fact did my eldest child and many of our friends' children too. Being born abroad doesn't necessarily mean they were of non-Irish descent.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The 80,000 figure sounds huge but over 56,000 also left the country that month so net migration was under 29k. That's down over 10% on the figure of the April previous."

True you could also look at it as a change of 130k because 80 arrived and 50 left? I don’t think any data was kept on origins.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There was the brain drain here in the 50s/60s that's why the Irish government lobbied the USA to make it harder to emigrate to the US and to this day we have to take part in the green card lottery"

I didn’t know that. When did you return yourself?

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"There was the brain drain here in the 50s/60s that's why the Irish government lobbied the USA to make it harder to emigrate to the US and to this day we have to take part in the green card lottery

I didn’t know that. When did you return yourself? "

Me ?? Shortly after I served in Nam, so probably around 1972

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"The 80,000 figure sounds huge but over 56,000 also left the country that month so net migration was under 29k. That's down over 10% on the figure of the April previous.

True you could also look at it as a change of 130k because 80 arrived and 50 left? I don’t think any data was kept on origins. "

That would be a rather ridiculous way to look at it though

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan


"There was the brain drain here in the 50s/60s that's why the Irish government lobbied the USA to make it harder to emigrate to the US and to this day we have to take part in the green card lottery

I didn’t know that. When did you return yourself?

Me ?? Shortly after I served in Nam, so probably around 1972 "

I was psychologically damaged after my tour of 'nam...

Birmin 'nam

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By *ineapple_PrincessWoman
over a year ago

in the waves


"There was the brain drain here in the 50s/60s that's why the Irish government lobbied the USA to make it harder to emigrate to the US and to this day we have to take part in the green card lottery

I didn’t know that. When did you return yourself?

Me ?? Shortly after I served in Nam, so probably around 1972 "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was the brain drain here in the 50s/60s that's why the Irish government lobbied the USA to make it harder to emigrate to the US and to this day we have to take part in the green card lottery

I didn’t know that. When did you return yourself?

Me ?? Shortly after I served in Nam, so probably around 1972

I was psychologically damaged after my tour of 'nam...

Birmin 'nam "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There was the brain drain here in the 50s/60s that's why the Irish government lobbied the USA to make it harder to emigrate to the US and to this day we have to take part in the green card lottery

I didn’t know that. When did you return yourself?

Me ?? Shortly after I served in Nam, so probably around 1972 "

So not after 2016, when the census happened.

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"There was the brain drain here in the 50s/60s that's why the Irish government lobbied the USA to make it harder to emigrate to the US and to this day we have to take part in the green card lottery

I didn’t know that. When did you return yourself?

Me ?? Shortly after I served in Nam, so probably around 1972

So not after 2016, when the census happened. "

No but why is the census the cut off point when your question was about a comparable population change in a similar time frame. So my point of Ireland in the 50s/60s when there was mass outward emigration to the US/UK is still a comparable population change

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By *iscuits8Man
over a year ago

Meath / Dublin / Birmingham


"The 80,000 figure sounds huge but over 56,000 also left the country that month so net migration was under 29k. That's down over 10% on the figure of the April previous.

True you could also look at it as a change of 130k because 80 arrived and 50 left? I don’t think any data was kept on origins.

That would be a rather ridiculous way to look at it though "

Yep. I mean, opening post says there was an influx of 80,000 in one month and that the rate is 'break-neck'.

Yet, the population of Ireland actually only increased by less than 56,000 in the year to April 2020.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The 80,000 figure sounds huge but over 56,000 also left the country that month so net migration was under 29k. That's down over 10% on the figure of the April previous.

True you could also look at it as a change of 130k because 80 arrived and 50 left? I don’t think any data was kept on origins.

That would be a rather ridiculous way to look at it though

Yep. I mean, opening post says there was an influx of 80,000 in one month and that the rate is 'break-neck'.

Yet, the population of Ireland actually only increased by less than 56,000 in the year to April 2020."

That was net migration for the month of of April. Births etc not included.

My original question, if we could get back to it, was has there been such a shift elsewhere?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There was the brain drain here in the 50s/60s that's why the Irish government lobbied the USA to make it harder to emigrate to the US and to this day we have to take part in the green card lottery

I didn’t know that. When did you return yourself?

Me ?? Shortly after I served in Nam, so probably around 1972

So not after 2016, when the census happened. "

It’s not a cut off point it’s a pint and the point of reference for now. If those that left in the 60s came back in the 80s. And the US had plugged emigration...it might not be useful to apply the anecdotal info of your case and that generation?

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By *otwife85Couple
over a year ago

Galway

I don't think it's break-neck.

That migration statistic was probably just Irish people returning home because of Covid.

And the percentage of people born outside of ireland hasn't increased that much since the last census.

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