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"Asking for help from anyone is a big step especially when it comes to mental health. This site is a community in its own, and the forums especially a place where anyone can post thoughts and feelings if they choose to and I don't think anyone has the right to chastise someone asking for help. However, it is a swinging site at the end of the day, and there are better and more suited places who can help with problems someone may be suffering from. " Yes its a swinging site and there are more suited places to ask for help but if someone asks for help no matter where or how they do it, we should be able to help. I know I have more than once on here and at the time it was the right thing to do. Lifes crap at times and when a person is down in that hole the slightest bit of light can help. I have said it time and time again and not just here the simplest gesture to a person that is struggling could mean the world to them. | |||
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"OP i definitely would'nt be asking for help here i can sure you. I actually don't think it's a safe space. To many judging others, there is definitely a few who would point someone in the right direction. But in general it's a playground for people who like to prey on the vulnerable. I have seen it with my own eyes and you know the amount of abusers on here is why people don't answer, use all filters and block so much. " If you think this place is so dangerous why do you stay on it ....genuine question. I've never heard it described like that before..a playground for people to pray on the vulnerable If someone reaches out anywhere for help...offer it if you can. Its about them and where they feel comfortable in asking | |||
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"OP i definitely would'nt be asking for help here i can sure you. I actually don't think it's a safe space. To many judging others, there is definitely a few who would point someone in the right direction. But in general it's a playground for people who like to prey on the vulnerable. I have seen it with my own eyes and you know the amount of abusers on here is why people don't answer, use all filters and block so much. If you think this place is so dangerous why do you stay on it ....genuine question. I've never heard it described like that before..a playground for people to pray on the vulnerable If someone reaches out anywhere for help...offer it if you can. Its about them and where they feel comfortable in asking" I do offer it if i see someone i didn't say it was dangerous, you are putting words in my mouth there, i just said i don't think it's a safe space. There is just so much abuse. | |||
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"OP i definitely would'nt be asking for help here i can sure you. I actually don't think it's a safe space. To many judging others, there is definitely a few who would point someone in the right direction. But in general it's a playground for people who like to prey on the vulnerable. I have seen it with my own eyes and you know the amount of abusers on here is why people don't answer, use all filters and block so much. " I largely agree with this. There are too many on here with agendas. Sadly I also think there are a significant amount of vulnerable individuals on fab. | |||
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"OP i definitely would'nt be asking for help here i can sure you. I actually don't think it's a safe space. To many judging others, there is definitely a few who would point someone in the right direction. But in general it's a playground for people who like to prey on the vulnerable. I have seen it with my own eyes and you know the amount of abusers on here is why people don't answer, use all filters and block so much. I largely agree with this. There are too many on here with agendas. Sadly I also think there are a significant amount of vulnerable individuals on fab. " Yes example of a guy meeting a woman on here on the paper the other day look how that turn out. Not saying all are like that of course god i have made some really good friends here but i choose them wisely . It's just how i see it lots of manipulation, bullying and abuse on all social media it can be just so dangerous. Social media is a playground in general for sick individuals it is how it is reality. | |||
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"OP i definitely would'nt be asking for help here i can sure you. I actually don't think it's a safe space. To many judging others, there is definitely a few who would point someone in the right direction. But in general it's a playground for people who like to prey on the vulnerable. I have seen it with my own eyes and you know the amount of abusers on here is why people don't answer, use all filters and block so much. If you think this place is so dangerous why do you stay on it ....genuine question. I've never heard it described like that before..a playground for people to pray on the vulnerable If someone reaches out anywhere for help...offer it if you can. Its about them and where they feel comfortable in asking" Genuine answer i come and go here i come to enjoy the forums, look at pictures and profiles. I interact with my friends i go to parties isn't that what everyone does. | |||
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"OP i definitely would'nt be asking for help here i can sure you. I actually don't think it's a safe space. To many judging others, there is definitely a few who would point someone in the right direction. But in general it's a playground for people who like to prey on the vulnerable. I have seen it with my own eyes and you know the amount of abusers on here is why people don't answer, use all filters and block so much. If you think this place is so dangerous why do you stay on it ....genuine question. I've never heard it described like that before..a playground for people to pray on the vulnerable If someone reaches out anywhere for help...offer it if you can. Its about them and where they feel comfortable in asking Genuine answer i come and go here i come to enjoy the forums, look at pictures and profiles. I interact with my friends i go to parties isn't that what everyone does. " No, for some it is their virtually their whole social life and where they consider the majority of their (virtual) friends are too. | |||
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"OP i definitely would'nt be asking for help here i can sure you. I actually don't think it's a safe space. To many judging others, there is definitely a few who would point someone in the right direction. But in general it's a playground for people who like to prey on the vulnerable. I have seen it with my own eyes and you know the amount of abusers on here is why people don't answer, use all filters and block so much. If you think this place is so dangerous why do you stay on it ....genuine question. I've never heard it described like that before..a playground for people to pray on the vulnerable If someone reaches out anywhere for help...offer it if you can. Its about them and where they feel comfortable in asking Genuine answer i come and go here i come to enjoy the forums, look at pictures and profiles. I interact with my friends i go to parties isn't that what everyone does. No, for some it is their virtually their whole social life and where they consider the majority of their (virtual) friends are too. " Yes i said interaction with friends. | |||
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"Any forum where people feel comfortable to do so is the appropriate one to ask for help. Personally, I don't get involved with these threads other than to offer general advice, I'm here to enjoy myself and be entertained, not to get mired in other people's troubles or dramas, whatever shape they take, but I don't doubt there are those of a more generous spirit who will get personally involved. And there are also dangerous individuals here who would prey on the vulnerable, I would advise anyone to be careful of strangers online, that includes the ones asking for help as well as those offering it." Yes those offering help can be just as vulnerable, intersting thread OP thank you. But like said already i wouldn't get to involved personally all that much. It is such a pity the way this world is today that people can't even be themselves without some sort of judgement, bullying etc. | |||
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"Speaking as someone who lost his 21 year old daughter two years ago, who battled mental health problems for years, I think this is an ideal place to ask like minded people for help. We’re all human beings, going through the changing sea of life. I know some people on here are judgemental, but if someone mocks or judges a struggling human for reaching out, then fuck’em! That says more about them than the person who reached out." Sorry for your loss x As I said earlier its not the ideal place but it could be the right time at the right place. For anyone struggling the hardest step is to actually say 'I'm not okay". If by talking to someone here even if just a random chat about nothing gives them a little bit of hope till they can make contact with their doctor etc than I'm all for it. The beginning of this year every social media platform was shocked by the suicide of Caroline flack and the amount of people who posted be kind etc I wonder how many posted them words and genuinely meant them. | |||
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"Here here im helping a friend who has mentle health issues. She told me if she had not got me she would be at the end of a rope. " I actually think this is the very sort of scenario that should be avoided on here. For someone to tell another person, a "friend" on fab that, it is dangerous for all sorts of reasons and potentially for your own mental wellbeing included. There is professional help out there for people who unfortunately feel so low and can be a dangerous burden to carry yourself. But let's get this straight no one should ever laugh or mock or tell someone to do one who has the courage to ask for help. All I'm saying is to be careful, it's often much more complex than it appears on the surface and sometimes the advice given with good intent is counter productive. People study and train and specialise in all sorts of aspects of mental health and devote their professional lives to it. Anyone with a concerning problem should be pointed on the direction of these people at the soonest opportunity. | |||
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"Here here im helping a friend who has mentle health issues. She told me if she had not got me she would be at the end of a rope. I actually think this is the very sort of scenario that should be avoided on here. For someone to tell another person, a "friend" on fab that, it is dangerous for all sorts of reasons and potentially for your own mental wellbeing included. There is professional help out there for people who unfortunately feel so low and can be a dangerous burden to carry yourself. But let's get this straight no one should ever laugh or mock or tell someone to do one who has the courage to ask for help. All I'm saying is to be careful, it's often much more complex than it appears on the surface and sometimes the advice given with good intent is counter productive. People study and train and specialise in all sorts of aspects of mental health and devote their professional lives to it. Anyone with a concerning problem should be pointed on the direction of these people at the soonest opportunity. " Yes i too believe professional is the only correct way to help, I listen to people regularly and always recommend reaching out to the services that are there. I just fear for people with hidden agendas when trying to help others. Whether be a sex site or any other platform. There is only so much a regular person with his/hers own life experiences one can do for someone before it may effect ones own mental health subconsciously even. Without the correct professional skills set as much as one may think the advice they are giving is effective it may not and may have opposite effect also. | |||
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"Here here im helping a friend who has mentle health issues. She told me if she had not got me she would be at the end of a rope. I actually think this is the very sort of scenario that should be avoided on here. For someone to tell another person, a "friend" on fab that, it is dangerous for all sorts of reasons and potentially for your own mental wellbeing included. There is professional help out there for people who unfortunately feel so low and can be a dangerous burden to carry yourself. But let's get this straight no one should ever laugh or mock or tell someone to do one who has the courage to ask for help. All I'm saying is to be careful, it's often much more complex than it appears on the surface and sometimes the advice given with good intent is counter productive. People study and train and specialise in all sorts of aspects of mental health and devote their professional lives to it. Anyone with a concerning problem should be pointed on the direction of these people at the soonest opportunity. Yes i too believe professional is the only correct way to help, I listen to people regularly and always recommend reaching out to the services that are there. I just fear for people with hidden agendas when trying to help others. Whether be a sex site or any other platform. There is only so much a regular person with his/hers own life experiences one can do for someone before it may effect ones own mental health subconsciously even. Without the correct professional skills set as much as one may think the advice they are giving is effective it may not and may have opposite effect also. " Yep! Same page | |||
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"Here here im helping a friend who has mentle health issues. She told me if she had not got me she would be at the end of a rope. I actually think this is the very sort of scenario that should be avoided on here. For someone to tell another person, a "friend" on fab that, it is dangerous for all sorts of reasons and potentially for your own mental wellbeing included. There is professional help out there for people who unfortunately feel so low and can be a dangerous burden to carry yourself. But let's get this straight no one should ever laugh or mock or tell someone to do one who has the courage to ask for help. All I'm saying is to be careful, it's often much more complex than it appears on the surface and sometimes the advice given with good intent is counter productive. People study and train and specialise in all sorts of aspects of mental health and devote their professional lives to it. Anyone with a concerning problem should be pointed on the direction of these people at the soonest opportunity. " Kaizer is unsure if anyone on this thread claimed to be a part time psychotherapist. The point being, no one should be feel vilified for airing a personal issue. It's sometimes easier to initially talk to strangers thank those close or a professional, maybe then offer advice and suggest a more certified approach. It's tough times we are in, we should all pull together! | |||
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"Here here im helping a friend who has mentle health issues. She told me if she had not got me she would be at the end of a rope. I actually think this is the very sort of scenario that should be avoided on here. For someone to tell another person, a "friend" on fab that, it is dangerous for all sorts of reasons and potentially for your own mental wellbeing included. There is professional help out there for people who unfortunately feel so low and can be a dangerous burden to carry yourself. But let's get this straight no one should ever laugh or mock or tell someone to do one who has the courage to ask for help. All I'm saying is to be careful, it's often much more complex than it appears on the surface and sometimes the advice given with good intent is counter productive. People study and train and specialise in all sorts of aspects of mental health and devote their professional lives to it. Anyone with a concerning problem should be pointed on the direction of these people at the soonest opportunity. Kaizer is unsure if anyone on this thread claimed to be a part time psychotherapist. The point being, no one should be feel vilified for airing a personal issue. It's sometimes easier to initially talk to strangers thank those close or a professional, maybe then offer advice and suggest a more certified approach. It's tough times we are in, we should all pull together! " I think you've missed my point completely. And no one on here has said anyone should be vilified. But it can be counterproductive and even dangerous in some instances to give advice on some issues to "strangers". | |||
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"Here here im helping a friend who has mentle health issues. She told me if she had not got me she would be at the end of a rope. I actually think this is the very sort of scenario that should be avoided on here. For someone to tell another person, a "friend" on fab that, it is dangerous for all sorts of reasons and potentially for your own mental wellbeing included. There is professional help out there for people who unfortunately feel so low and can be a dangerous burden to carry yourself. But let's get this straight no one should ever laugh or mock or tell someone to do one who has the courage to ask for help. All I'm saying is to be careful, it's often much more complex than it appears on the surface and sometimes the advice given with good intent is counter productive. People study and train and specialise in all sorts of aspects of mental health and devote their professional lives to it. Anyone with a concerning problem should be pointed on the direction of these people at the soonest opportunity. Kaizer is unsure if anyone on this thread claimed to be a part time psychotherapist. The point being, no one should be feel vilified for airing a personal issue. It's sometimes easier to initially talk to strangers thank those close or a professional, maybe then offer advice and suggest a more certified approach. It's tough times we are in, we should all pull together! I think you've missed my point completely. And no one on here has said anyone should be vilified. But it can be counterproductive and even dangerous in some instances to give advice on some issues to "strangers". " The retort wasn't just to you there is a broader discussion goin on here also It can also be very counter productive for someone to say STFU etc. If anyone ever wants to talk to a ridiculously handsome and humble individual then Kaizer is here | |||
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"Here here im helping a friend who has mentle health issues. She told me if she had not got me she would be at the end of a rope. I actually think this is the very sort of scenario that should be avoided on here. For someone to tell another person, a "friend" on fab that, it is dangerous for all sorts of reasons and potentially for your own mental wellbeing included. There is professional help out there for people who unfortunately feel so low and can be a dangerous burden to carry yourself. But let's get this straight no one should ever laugh or mock or tell someone to do one who has the courage to ask for help. All I'm saying is to be careful, it's often much more complex than it appears on the surface and sometimes the advice given with good intent is counter productive. People study and train and specialise in all sorts of aspects of mental health and devote their professional lives to it. Anyone with a concerning problem should be pointed on the direction of these people at the soonest opportunity. Kaizer is unsure if anyone on this thread claimed to be a part time psychotherapist. The point being, no one should be feel vilified for airing a personal issue. It's sometimes easier to initially talk to strangers thank those close or a professional, maybe then offer advice and suggest a more certified approach. It's tough times we are in, we should all pull together! I think you've missed my point completely. And no one on here has said anyone should be vilified. But it can be counterproductive and even dangerous in some instances to give advice on some issues to "strangers". " I agree. But I also think that there ia no harm in reaching out if someone feels they need to. I think most of us have seen posts where someone has reached out on here. And to be fair a lot of the times people have given out numbers etc of places that the person can contact. A kind word does no harm to anyone. And yes I agree with your point that it is a lot more complex and there is only so much a non professional can help. But a kind word can also make a big difference when someone is feeling that low and finally do take the first step to reach out it can help them make that step to contact a professional and get the help they need. As for those who prey on the vinerable they are the lowest of the low. | |||
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"Here here im helping a friend who has mentle health issues. She told me if she had not got me she would be at the end of a rope. I actually think this is the very sort of scenario that should be avoided on here. For someone to tell another person, a "friend" on fab that, it is dangerous for all sorts of reasons and potentially for your own mental wellbeing included. There is professional help out there for people who unfortunately feel so low and can be a dangerous burden to carry yourself. But let's get this straight no one should ever laugh or mock or tell someone to do one who has the courage to ask for help. All I'm saying is to be careful, it's often much more complex than it appears on the surface and sometimes the advice given with good intent is counter productive. People study and train and specialise in all sorts of aspects of mental health and devote their professional lives to it. Anyone with a concerning problem should be pointed on the direction of these people at the soonest opportunity. Kaizer is unsure if anyone on this thread claimed to be a part time psychotherapist. The point being, no one should be feel vilified for airing a personal issue. It's sometimes easier to initially talk to strangers thank those close or a professional, maybe then offer advice and suggest a more certified approach. It's tough times we are in, we should all pull together! I think you've missed my point completely. And no one on here has said anyone should be vilified. But it can be counterproductive and even dangerous in some instances to give advice on some issues to "strangers". The retort wasn't just to you there is a broader discussion goin on here also It can also be very counter productive for someone to say STFU etc. If anyone ever wants to talk to a ridiculously handsome and humble individual then Kaizer is here " If it wasn't to me but to the wider group you should have just posted then rather than quoting my post as a starting point to your post? | |||
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"Here here im helping a friend who has mentle health issues. She told me if she had not got me she would be at the end of a rope. I actually think this is the very sort of scenario that should be avoided on here. For someone to tell another person, a "friend" on fab that, it is dangerous for all sorts of reasons and potentially for your own mental wellbeing included. There is professional help out there for people who unfortunately feel so low and can be a dangerous burden to carry yourself. But let's get this straight no one should ever laugh or mock or tell someone to do one who has the courage to ask for help. All I'm saying is to be careful, it's often much more complex than it appears on the surface and sometimes the advice given with good intent is counter productive. People study and train and specialise in all sorts of aspects of mental health and devote their professional lives to it. Anyone with a concerning problem should be pointed on the direction of these people at the soonest opportunity. Kaizer is unsure if anyone on this thread claimed to be a part time psychotherapist. The point being, no one should be feel vilified for airing a personal issue. It's sometimes easier to initially talk to strangers thank those close or a professional, maybe then offer advice and suggest a more certified approach. It's tough times we are in, we should all pull together! I think you've missed my point completely. And no one on here has said anyone should be vilified. But it can be counterproductive and even dangerous in some instances to give advice on some issues to "strangers". The retort wasn't just to you there is a broader discussion goin on here also It can also be very counter productive for someone to say STFU etc. If anyone ever wants to talk to a ridiculously handsome and humble individual then Kaizer is here If it wasn't to me but to the wider group you should have just posted then rather than quoting my post as a starting point to your post? " This an open forum, whilst retorting to you Kaizer tried including a number of valid points made throughout the thread. Try not to take everything so personally perhaps. Apologies if it came across as a personal insinuation, irrespective to the countless previous references on this thread. | |||
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"It's not personal at all. How could it be personal when you refer to some guy Kaiser? Have you assumed his identity? (is he aware of this?) or has he no fingers and you have to type his posts? " Do you need a hug? | |||
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"It's not personal at all. How could it be personal when you refer to some guy Kaiser? Have you assumed his identity? (is he aware of this?) or has he no fingers and you have to type his posts? Do you need a hug? " I'm good thanks. Maybe kaiser does though? You better check with him, being unable to type for himself is bound to get him down sometimes. | |||
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"I've come across a forum post elsewhere on fab. I'll not name any names nor quote anything... Some person is genuinely struggling with their mental health and asked fabbers for support/advice. Do you think it's an appropriate place to ask for help? My own answer is yes. Every place is appropriate. If you don't have any access to professional support, if you don't have any close friends/family in your immediate circle, if you feel alone - fab should be a very good place to ask for help. Should swingers not be the most understanding and compassionate? (Yes, I know there's lots of rocks being thrown due to frustration, but if you would see someone on the ground in the rain, would you not help them up?) If you see someone lonely and struggling - you may walk away thinking someone else may help them, but if that person is actively asking for help- will you stop and help without judgement? I do. One of the hardest things to do when you're suffering from anything is admitting it to others. Even harder is asking for help. We are all too used to pretending that we are okay. It's okay not to be okay. missus " Its great to see a bit of support like this on fab from my own personal experience reaching out is one of the most difficult things to do in life. The fact people here are willing to pull in as a community or circle is brilliant to see restoring my faith in fabbers. Thanks for the positivity | |||
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"It's not personal at all. How could it be personal when you refer to some guy Kaiser? Have you assumed his identity? (is he aware of this?) or has he no fingers and you have to type his posts? Do you need a hug? I'm good thanks. Maybe kaiser does though? You better check with him, being unable to type for himself is bound to get him down sometimes. " Kaizer is well able to type thank you very much Merry Christmas and a very Happy New year to you and yours | |||
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