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"The post has been deleted but if The FA has to be seen to be consistent then he has to be banned. He's using the exact same defence so it should have the same outcome " Maybe an investigation should be done first ? And then if he's found guilty all the United players can do the same as the Liverpool squad, get his name printed on a jersey to support a racist | |||
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"The post has been deleted but if The FA has to be seen to be consistent then he has to be banned. He's using the exact same defence so it should have the same outcome Maybe an investigation should be done first ? And then if he's found guilty all the United players can do the same as the Liverpool squad, get his name printed on a jersey to support a racist " Totally wrong there alright and made the club look stupid I think the difference this time is the BLM Campaign | |||
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"The post has been deleted but if The FA has to be seen to be consistent then he has to be banned. He's using the exact same defence so it should have the same outcome Maybe an investigation should be done first ? And then if he's found guilty all the United players can do the same as the Liverpool squad, get his name printed on a jersey to support a racist Totally wrong there alright and made the club look stupid I think the difference this time is the BLM Campaign" That didn't actually come into my mind as I posted it and you'd imagine that campaign will have the impact of amplifying this even more than it might have done so . Good point. | |||
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"Apparently there is an automatic 3 match ban for racist or inappropriate social media posts so there probably won't be an investigation." Apparently ? So no due process ? If he's found guilty by all means throw him to the wolves but even the worst of the worst should have a chance to explain themselves | |||
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"Apparently there is an automatic 3 match ban for racist or inappropriate social media posts so there probably won't be an investigation. Apparently ? So no due process ? If he's found guilty by all means throw him to the wolves but even the worst of the worst should have a chance to explain themselves " Ah Wolves might need him alright with Raul injured!!!!!  | |||
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"Apparently there is an automatic 3 match ban for racist or inappropriate social media posts so there probably won't be an investigation. Apparently ? So no due process ? If he's found guilty by all means throw him to the wolves but even the worst of the worst should have a chance to explain themselves Ah Wolves might need him alright with Raul injured!!!!! "Fractured skull. Nasty one | |||
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"By the look on salahs face when he was hauled off by klopp yesterday Liverpool might be looking for a new strikr" Don't be ridiculous  | |||
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"By the look on salahs face when he was hauled off by klopp yesterday Liverpool might be looking for a new strikr" Nonsense. Though he's definitely the weakest of the front 4 in comparison to Mane, firmino and Jota. I also think he knows it. I'm not a fan tbh, he's definitely a stat padder, a real flat track bully and plays for himself. He has a stellar support case around him to make him look good and what he brings to the rest of the team is nowhere near what the other 3 I've listed above do. But he's going nowhere. | |||
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"By the look on salahs face when he was hauled off by klopp yesterday Liverpool might be looking for a new strikr Nonsense. Though he's definitely the weakest of the front 4 in comparison to Mane, firmino and Jota. I also think he knows it. I'm not a fan tbh, he's definitely a stat padder, a real flat track bully and plays for himself. He has a stellar support case around him to make him look good and what he brings to the rest of the team is nowhere near what the other 3 I've listed above do. But he's going nowhere. " Did you really just say that Salah is the weakest of Liverpool's front 4 . Really, I am not a Liverpool fan but you can't honestly think that. He has broken all goal scoring records and is consistently not only the top goal scorer but also always in the top 3 for assists. | |||
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"By the look on salahs face when he was hauled off by klopp yesterday Liverpool might be looking for a new strikr Nonsense. Though he's definitely the weakest of the front 4 in comparison to Mane, firmino and Jota. I also think he knows it. I'm not a fan tbh, he's definitely a stat padder, a real flat track bully and plays for himself. He has a stellar support case around him to make him look good and what he brings to the rest of the team is nowhere near what the other 3 I've listed above do. But he's going nowhere. Did you really just say that Salah is the weakest of Liverpool's front 4 . Really, I am not a Liverpool fan but you can't honestly think that. He has broken all goal scoring records and is consistently not only the top goal scorer but also always in the top 3 for assists. " Have you analysed his statistics? Do you watch his contribution to the game? You're just quoting statistics and as I've said, he's the ultimate stat padder and he does this as a flat track bully or my piling it on against the weak teams ie he'll score 4 agaisnt tbe likes of Bournemouth. He couldn't not score goals with the system that Liverpool play and the chances they make but my point is the other 3 bring more to the team. You'll probably look at firmino's stats on paper and disagree with me but watch the games and watch what he brings to the team. The other 3 can do what he does and more. How many times in big games does he score the big goal, the first goal, or when they're getting beaten does he score the goal to get them back into it, or when they're not playing well and need to grind something out, how often is it him? Virtually never. That man is usually Sadio Mane and has been all along. | |||
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"By the look on salahs face when he was hauled off by klopp yesterday Liverpool might be looking for a new strikr Nonsense. Though he's definitely the weakest of the front 4 in comparison to Mane, firmino and Jota. I also think he knows it. I'm not a fan tbh, he's definitely a stat padder, a real flat track bully and plays for himself. He has a stellar support case around him to make him look good and what he brings to the rest of the team is nowhere near what the other 3 I've listed above do. But he's going nowhere. Did you really just say that Salah is the weakest of Liverpool's front 4 . Really, I am not a Liverpool fan but you can't honestly think that. He has broken all goal scoring records and is consistently not only the top goal scorer but also always in the top 3 for assists. Have you analysed his statistics? Do you watch his contribution to the game? You're just quoting statistics and as I've said, he's the ultimate stat padder and he does this as a flat track bully or my piling it on against the weak teams ie he'll score 4 agaisnt tbe likes of Bournemouth. He couldn't not score goals with the system that Liverpool play and the chances they make but my point is the other 3 bring more to the team. You'll probably look at firmino's stats on paper and disagree with me but watch the games and watch what he brings to the team. The other 3 can do what he does and more. How many times in big games does he score the big goal, the first goal, or when they're getting beaten does he score the goal to get them back into it, or when they're not playing well and need to grind something out, how often is it him? Virtually never. That man is usually Sadio Mane and has been all along. " So he's Robbie Keane? | |||
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"FFS typical of those fans. Man Utd forwards a racist insult on social media....club fans start talking about Salah to ignore the actual subject at hand. Cavani should get at least equal what Saurez got which was 9 or 10 game ban. Absolutely no excuse in 2020 for this type of abuse, fuck all to do with different cultures or coming from different countries. EVERYONE around the world knows what that word means." Suarez received an 8 match ban for what he said to Evra . In an era when the sensitivity of racial slurs is more understood than ever then surely a similar ban should be handed out to Cavani . Also from Uruguay so it's hard to argue he meant something entirely different to Suarez. Liverpool fucked up big time with that incident but I'm sure Utd won't accept the same from one of their own players after Evra had been subjected to that same slur by Suarez. Are people trying to argye that racism is subjective ? | |||
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" Suarez received an 8 match ban for what he said to Evra . In an era when the sensitivity of racial slurs is more understood than ever then surely a similar ban should be handed out to Cavani . Also from Uruguay so it's hard to argue he meant something entirely different to Suarez. Liverpool fucked up big time with that incident but I'm sure Utd won't accept the same from one of their own players after Evra had been subjected to that same slur by Suarez. Are people trying to argye that racism is subjective ?" Oh was it 8, thought it was a bit longer. Cavani has to get at least that for the very point you made that of the era we're living in. We're 8 or so years on from the Suarez/Evra incident so people simply should not be making comments like that. Cavani & Suarez are both international team mates, they've probably spoken about it or at the very least Cavani would have known about his team mate being banned from football and the reason! Liverpool didn't come out looking good, maybe the fault of naive owners very new to football. At the time there was no evidence(although Suarez later admitted what he said) of what was said. There really is nothing to argue except how long the ban is. I would say it Cavani deserves more because every one of us should be better informed in 2020 and it has now been seen by 100s of 1000s of people, maybe millions. 1 person heard Suarez' insult. Both players are absolutely wrong in their actions and words. | |||
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"FFS typical of those fans. Man Utd forwards a racist insult on social media....club fans start talking about Salah to ignore the actual subject at hand. Cavani should get at least equal what Saurez got which was 9 or 10 game ban. Absolutely no excuse in 2020 for this type of abuse, fuck all to do with different cultures or coming from different countries. EVERYONE around the world knows what that word means." Give over, I'm not a United or Liverpool fan, I replied to another post on the forum. Are you some sort of forum police or forum patrol warden?? Plus you don't speak for "EVERYONE" and their culture. I'm not condoning racism whatsoever but there is a language barrier involved here and the circumstances of the post should be taken into consideration. You've used the term "this type of abuse", who was he "abusing"? Who was his post directed at? You've gone off on one without even stopping to think. | |||
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"Cavani is a Man u legend after wat he did at Southampton match hopefully more to come. " Shiver me timbers, the bar has dropped! 
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 and unfortunately for him it was quite a stupid thing to say..he should be and will be fined and banned and made an example of, otherwise why are they taking the knee every week when the point has firmly been made.. but leave it there and don't condemn the man..I'm not racist btw, I just think the knee thing is losing its image doing it every single game..  | |||
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"United should do what liverpool players did when suarez was accused of being a racist . .. supportshim with matching tops beforea game" Edinson has already received the full backing of his club in a well written statement | |||
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" You've gone off on one without even stopping to think. " Were you staring into the mirror when you went off on one in your very own comment? Who thinks they're the forum police now? I never said anything remotely to that effect or that I think I am
IF you really need to be told what this abuse is, and are excuseing it, then that says an awful lot about you and your own character. | |||
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" You've gone off on one without even stopping to think. Were you staring into the mirror when you went off on one in your very own comment? Who thinks they're the forum police now? I never said anything remotely to that effect or that I think I am
IF you really need to be told what this abuse is, and are excuseing it, then that says an awful lot about you and your own character."What's the "abuse" here?? Who was it directed at? Are you unaware of the circumstances of the post and who he said it to? Because it seems so. Don't question my character, I'm not racist and work with colleagues of all colours and from all backgrounds. However, before slamming the man in question have the insight to look at the context of it. The fact you are prejudging someone from another culture and the language they use without any insight actually makes you out to be the intolerant one and one with the problem. | |||
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" Don't question my character, I'm not racist ....... look at the context of it. " So racism is acceptable in certain contexts....whatever! Sounds exactly what a racist would claim to justify themselves and their attitudes. The rest of us don't notice or pay attention if we work with people of other colours. There simply is NO justification to what Cavani sent, same as Suarez. Its wrong in EVERY context. I'm not going to discuss this any further with people so blind to the modern world and simple rights and wrongs. | |||
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"World gone mad everybody is hyper sensitive.. Can't say this can't say that.. How many years have they this anti racism campaign and incidents keep occurring so it's not working.. Racism is part of humanity a very ugly part and no campaigns will ever stamp it out..." That's very true !! They put brakes in cars and there is still car crashes ! Abandon them at once . Now that you mentuin it. There is still hospitals and people still keep getting ill. It's ridiculoys | |||
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"Cavani is a Man u legend after wat he did at Southampton match hopefully more to come. " Doesn’t take much to be a legend in your eyes does it? | |||
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"Cavani is a Man u legend after wat he did at Southampton match hopefully more to come. Doesn’t take much to be a legend in your eyes does it? " At this rate Bruno Fernandes will get a statue in May | |||
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"Cavani is a Man u legend after wat he did at Southampton match hopefully more to come. Doesn’t take much to be a legend in your eyes does it? " Wait and see sure look what Zlatan did and Manchester United and everyone said he was past it when he signed | |||
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"Cavani is a Man u legend after wat he did at Southampton match hopefully more to come. Doesn’t take much to be a legend in your eyes does it? At this rate Bruno Fernandes will get a statue in May "Well I think its Zlatan going to get the Statue in May ha ha | |||
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"What an angry thread! Jeez the pubs better open up soon or we'll all kill eachother "Hopefully Vixen will be in the pub wearing her black underwear and maybe I will look away from Cavani playing for Manchester United. Ha ha | |||
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"World gone mad everybody is hyper sensitive.. Can't say this can't say that.. How many years have they this anti racism campaign and incidents keep occurring so it's not working.. Racism is part of humanity a very ugly part and no campaigns will ever stamp it out... That's very true !! They put brakes in cars and there is still car crashes ! Abandon them at once . Now that you mentuin it. There is still hospitals and people still keep getting ill. It's ridiculoys " Exactly cars have brakes but they still crash.. Hospitals are full of sick people and people will always be racist | |||
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"World gone mad everybody is hyper sensitive.. Can't say this can't say that.. How many years have they this anti racism campaign and incidents keep occurring so it's not working.. Racism is part of humanity a very ugly part and no campaigns will ever stamp it out... That's very true !! They put brakes in cars and there is still car crashes ! Abandon them at once . Now that you mentuin it. There is still hospitals and people still keep getting ill. It's ridiculoys Exactly cars have brakes but they still crash.. Hospitals are full of sick people and people will always be racist "Unfortunately we can not help educate and improve the attitudes of car brakes and sickness. | |||
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"What an angry thread! Jeez the pubs better open up soon or we'll all kill eachother "Frustration is the mother of all evil | |||
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"World gone mad everybody is hyper sensitive.. Can't say this can't say that.. How many years have they this anti racism campaign and incidents keep occurring so it's not working.. Racism is part of humanity a very ugly part and no campaigns will ever stamp it out... That's very true !! They put brakes in cars and there is still car crashes ! Abandon them at once . Now that you mentuin it. There is still hospitals and people still keep getting ill. It's ridiculoys Exactly cars have brakes but they still crash.. Hospitals are full of sick people and people will always be racist
Unfortunately we can not help educate and improve the attitudes of car brakes and sickness."No amount of education will change racist views.. All it does is silence racist people.. They will still hold racist beliefs and hatred inside but won't vocalise it for fear of being castigated.. So do campaigns like these work? No..people will always be racist | |||
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"World gone mad everybody is hyper sensitive.. Can't say this can't say that.. How many years have they this anti racism campaign and incidents keep occurring so it's not working.. Racism is part of humanity a very ugly part and no campaigns will ever stamp it out... That's very true !! They put brakes in cars and there is still car crashes ! Abandon them at once . Now that you mentuin it. There is still hospitals and people still keep getting ill. It's ridiculoys Exactly cars have brakes but they still crash.. Hospitals are full of sick people and people will always be racist
Unfortunately we can not help educate and improve the attitudes of car brakes and sickness."
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"Cultures and languages have different meaning to ours.Im not sure if he meant anything bad from it,who knows,but it does have a different interpretation in some cultures. " Diff scenarios... one was online and deleted the other said directly to a black man ..... cavani in the country a few months can be excused for not knowing better ... Suarez was at Liverpool quite a few seasons at that stage ... no comparison IMO | |||
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"Cultures and languages have different meaning to ours.Im not sure if he meant anything bad from it,who knows,but it does have a different interpretation in some cultures. Diff scenarios... one was online and deleted the other said directly to a black man ..... cavani in the country a few months can be excused for not knowing better ... Suarez was at Liverpool quite a few seasons at that stage ... no comparison IMO" Suarez and Cavani played together for Uruguay . Unless Cavani took a bump to the head and totally forgot the incident that got Suarez an 8 match ban then I don't buy that excuse for a milisecond. It being online or not has got fuck all to do with it . If it's a racial slur for Suarez to use then same applies for Cavani . | |||
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"World gone mad everybody is hyper sensitive.. Can't say this can't say that.. How many years have they this anti racism campaign and incidents keep occurring so it's not working.. Racism is part of humanity a very ugly part and no campaigns will ever stamp it out... That's very true !! They put brakes in cars and there is still car crashes ! Abandon them at once . Now that you mentuin it. There is still hospitals and people still keep getting ill. It's ridiculoys Exactly cars have brakes but they still crash.. Hospitals are full of sick people and people will always be racist
Unfortunately we can not help educate and improve the attitudes of car brakes and sickness.
No amount of education will change racist views.. All it does is silence racist people.. They will still hold racist beliefs and hatred inside but won't vocalise it for fear of being castigated.. So do campaigns like these work? No..people will always be racist "So in your distorted view of the world it is better for racists to be racist rather than shut their mouths ? Does the same apply to pedos ? Would you suggest they also act on their urges ? | |||
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" No amount of education will change racist views.. All it does is silence racist people.. They will still hold racist beliefs and hatred inside but won't vocalise it for fear of being castigated.. So do campaigns like these work? No..people will always be racist "You may be right in some cases but that can't be the case for every one of them. Maybe I'm too optimistic but I like to hold onto some hope for them. | |||
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"World gone mad everybody is hyper sensitive.. Can't say this can't say that.. How many years have they this anti racism campaign and incidents keep occurring so it's not working.. Racism is part of humanity a very ugly part and no campaigns will ever stamp it out... That's very true !! They put brakes in cars and there is still car crashes ! Abandon them at once . Now that you mentuin it. There is still hospitals and people still keep getting ill. It's ridiculoys Exactly cars have brakes but they still crash.. Hospitals are full of sick people and people will always be racist
Unfortunately we can not help educate and improve the attitudes of car brakes and sickness.
No amount of education will change racist views.. All it does is silence racist people.. They will still hold racist beliefs and hatred inside but won't vocalise it for fear of being castigated.. So do campaigns like these work? No..people will always be racist
So in your distorted view of the world it is better for racists to be racist rather than shut their mouths ?
Does the same apply to pedos ? Would you suggest they also act on their urges ?"You love to jump to conclusions  | |||
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"World gone mad everybody is hyper sensitive.. Can't say this can't say that.. How many years have they this anti racism campaign and incidents keep occurring so it's not working.. Racism is part of humanity a very ugly part and no campaigns will ever stamp it out... That's very true !! They put brakes in cars and there is still car crashes ! Abandon them at once . Now that you mentuin it. There is still hospitals and people still keep getting ill. It's ridiculoys Exactly cars have brakes but they still crash.. Hospitals are full of sick people and people will always be racist
Unfortunately we can not help educate and improve the attitudes of car brakes and sickness.
No amount of education will change racist views.. All it does is silence racist people.. They will still hold racist beliefs and hatred inside but won't vocalise it for fear of being castigated.. So do campaigns like these work? No..people will always be racist
So in your distorted view of the world it is better for racists to be racist rather than shut their mouths ?
Does the same apply to pedos ? Would you suggest they also act on their urges ?
You love to jump to conclusions "A question isn't a conclusion . It's the answers to the questions that are put that lead to conclusions. | |||
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"World gone mad everybody is hyper sensitive.. Can't say this can't say that.. How many years have they this anti racism campaign and incidents keep occurring so it's not working.. Racism is part of humanity a very ugly part and no campaigns will ever stamp it out... That's very true !! They put brakes in cars and there is still car crashes ! Abandon them at once . Now that you mentuin it. There is still hospitals and people still keep getting ill. It's ridiculoys Exactly cars have brakes but they still crash.. Hospitals are full of sick people and people will always be racist
Unfortunately we can not help educate and improve the attitudes of car brakes and sickness.
No amount of education will change racist views.. All it does is silence racist people.. They will still hold racist beliefs and hatred inside but won't vocalise it for fear of being castigated.. So do campaigns like these work? No..people will always be racist
So in your distorted view of the world it is better for racists to be racist rather than shut their mouths ?
Does the same apply to pedos ? Would you suggest they also act on their urges ?
You love to jump to conclusions
A question isn't a conclusion . It's the answers to the questions that are put that lead to conclusions. "Very good. . There are a couple of crusaders on here speaking for everyone Cavani himself included. I'm willing to bet neither of you know a fucking thing about Cavani as a person outside his football career and what you've read in whatever media you read which is always open dke debate. I'm also willing to bet that said crusaders don't speak his language, come from his background and have any insight into his culture or even know the person he posted his tweet too.
You can shout all you want BUT you simply don't know!!!
No one on here has condoned racism or is defending it in any shape or form. The crux of the matter here is not whether he gets a ban or not, that's secondary, but it's whether he intended anything other than what he claims he intended. You can not simply type it into Google translate and jump to conclusions.
There's no point ranting on a thread on a swingers site to a whole pile of people who have already condemned racsim. Get off your asses and go and get involved in educating the people that need educated and do something about it rather than cheap talk on repeat on here!! | |||
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"World gone mad everybody is hyper sensitive.. Can't say this can't say that.. How many years have they this anti racism campaign and incidents keep occurring so it's not working.. Racism is part of humanity a very ugly part and no campaigns will ever stamp it out... That's very true !! They put brakes in cars and there is still car crashes ! Abandon them at once . Now that you mentuin it. There is still hospitals and people still keep getting ill. It's ridiculoys Exactly cars have brakes but they still crash.. Hospitals are full of sick people and people will always be racist
Unfortunately we can not help educate and improve the attitudes of car brakes and sickness.
No amount of education will change racist views.. All it does is silence racist people.. They will still hold racist beliefs and hatred inside but won't vocalise it for fear of being castigated.. So do campaigns like these work? No..people will always be racist
So in your distorted view of the world it is better for racists to be racist rather than shut their mouths ?
Does the same apply to pedos ? Would you suggest they also act on their urges ?
You love to jump to conclusions
A question isn't a conclusion . It's the answers to the questions that are put that lead to conclusions. "You did jump to a conclusion with poor reasoning may I add.. you tried to link my stance on racism to paedophilia.. My God woman don't get your knickers in a twist | |||
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"World gone mad everybody is hyper sensitive.. Can't say this can't say that.. How many years have they this anti racism campaign and incidents keep occurring so it's not working.. Racism is part of humanity a very ugly part and no campaigns will ever stamp it out... That's very true !! They put brakes in cars and there is still car crashes ! Abandon them at once . Now that you mentuin it. There is still hospitals and people still keep getting ill. It's ridiculoys Exactly cars have brakes but they still crash.. Hospitals are full of sick people and people will always be racist
Unfortunately we can not help educate and improve the attitudes of car brakes and sickness.
No amount of education will change racist views.. All it does is silence racist people.. They will still hold racist beliefs and hatred inside but won't vocalise it for fear of being castigated.. So do campaigns like these work? No..people will always be racist
So in your distorted view of the world it is better for racists to be racist rather than shut their mouths ?
Does the same apply to pedos ? Would you suggest they also act on their urges ?
You love to jump to conclusions
A question isn't a conclusion . It's the answers to the questions that are put that lead to conclusions.
You did jump to a conclusion with poor reasoning may I add.. you tried to link my stance on racism to paedophilia.. My God woman don't get your knickers in a twist "Again , I asked if you would apply the same to pedos that tou would to racists. I didn't say that you did . The question is not the conclusion. It is a method to get to a conclusion by trying to get answers a conclusion could be soundly based on. As you haven't answered the question and are avoiding the question it would seem you have no interest in answering socratic questions. | |||
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"In Latin America like in many other parts of the globe they breath footbal and it has a huge influence in society. That's why it is so important that their representatives and more those who are always in the spotlight care wholeheartedly about their persona. Including their use of language. In spanish "negrito" has differnet meanings. It depends on the context its used. It can be used in a friendly and a derogatory way. Here's an interesting detail that should be considered. If Cavani's friend doesn't belong to the black "race" then he used this word (friendly or not) to make reference to his friend's darker color of skin, which is completely wrong. Why? This takes a lot to explain and would require to go into the spanish invasion to Latin A. Now if his friend belongs to the black race then he should say if he felt offended or not. Anyway going back to if Cavani should be punished. I'd say yes. Its about time to get rid of the archaic use of language specially that caused disasters for centuries. Education needs to change drastically and anywhere anytime when a person has the chance to throw two cents to contribute to this in a positive way they should f..g do it, even in a swinging site like fab.... I have spoken "Mandalorian fan eh? | |||
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"In Latin America like in many other parts of the globe they breath footbal and it has a huge influence in society. That's why it is so important that their representatives and more those who are always in the spotlight care wholeheartedly about their persona. Including their use of language. In spanish "negrito" has differnet meanings. It depends on the context its used. It can be used in a friendly and a derogatory way. Here's an interesting detail that should be considered. If Cavani's friend doesn't belong to the black "race" then he used this word (friendly or not) to make reference to his friend's darker color of skin, which is completely wrong. Why? This takes a lot to explain and would require to go into the spanish invasion to Latin A. Now if his friend belongs to the black race then he should say if he felt offended or not. Anyway going back to if Cavani should be punished. I'd say yes. Its about time to get rid of the archaic use of language specially that caused disasters for centuries. Education needs to change drastically and anywhere anytime when a person has the chance to throw two cents to contribute to this in a positive way they should f..g do it, even in a swinging site like fab.... I have spoken
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" Education needs to change drastically and anywhere anytime when a person has the chance to throw two cents to contribute to this in a positive way they should f..g do it, even in a swinging site like fab.... I have spoken "
and never give up trying to educate....even if they put their fingers in their ears and start screaming "la la la la la im not racist la la la la la"
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Those who labelled Cavani as a racist without any context or understanding are just as ignorant and intolerant at they tried to portray him as. Total hypocrites. | |||
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