FabSwingers.com forum: Should we lockdown now?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So, I just seen we had 7 new deaths from Covid and almost 1000 new cases confirmed here in the north in the last 24 hours. Is it now time for a full island wide lockdown?

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By *ratos87Man
over a year ago

Galway

I would rather see it happrn sooner than later. If it is done now there is the small chance of having a decent Xmas.

Look at New Zealand having a full stadium for the All Blacks game last weekend. No masks in sight. They really did everything right. If we keep going the way we're going its not going to stop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's long past the time of a full lockdown for the North. Not sure about the South but the numbers up there are out of control!

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By *oft_sexy_sweetWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

Any sort of enforced UK lockdown would be beneficial and also help numbers in the border counties, which are completely out of control.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"I would rather see it happrn sooner than later. If it is done now there is the small chance of having a decent Xmas.

Look at New Zealand having a full stadium for the All Blacks game last weekend. No masks in sight. They really did everything right. If we keep going the way we're going its not going to stop."
new Zealand is a stand alone country. They did alot right but it's totally diff. I'd hate the thoughts of another level 5 lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, I just seen we had 7 new deaths from Covid and almost 1000 new cases confirmed here in the north in the last 24 hours. Is it now time for a full island wide lockdown? "

No. Our death rate and hospitalization rate is nothing like crisis level. Indeed, the WHO just advised against lockdowns the other day.

They really should be used as a last resort and are a hammer. Not everything is a nail tho.

There are people who want to get seen or are being discouraged from getting seen (about that breast lump they found, or that high cholesterol or those headaches for e.g.) because of lockdown status.

IMO, I don't think C19 justifies mass lockdown anymore. Besides, we'll be right back where we started when we open up again. We need a different approach. But let's see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

New Zealand tested all arrivals and put them in a hotel room for 14 days. Ireland didn't quarantine arrivals. They were asked to quarantine and give a contact number and address. Stay safe folks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"New Zealand tested all arrivals and put them in a hotel room for 14 days. Ireland didn't quarantine arrivals. They were asked to quarantine and give a contact number and address. Stay safe folks"

Impossible in Ireland with the North. Zero Covid is a pipe dream.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would rather see it happrn sooner than later. If it is done now there is the small chance of having a decent Xmas.

Look at New Zealand having a full stadium for the All Blacks game last weekend. No masks in sight. They really did everything right. If we keep going the way we're going its not going to stop.new Zealand is a stand alone country. They did alot right but it's totally diff. I'd hate the thoughts of another level 5 lockdown."

We live on an island?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck Christmas, I'd rather see people having jobs. However, since a considerable proportion of people are seemingly unable or unwilling to follow simple guidelines about mask-wearing, social distancing and hand hygiene, lockdown is probably where we're headed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"New Zealand tested all arrivals and put them in a hotel room for 14 days. Ireland didn't quarantine arrivals. They were asked to quarantine and give a contact number and address. Stay safe folks

Impossible in Ireland with the North. Zero Covid is a pipe dream."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"New Zealand tested all arrivals and put them in a hotel room for 14 days. Ireland didn't quarantine arrivals. They were asked to quarantine and give a contact number and address. Stay safe folks

Impossible in Ireland with the North. Zero Covid is a pipe dream."

We don't have the manpower to do anything in this country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's kinda strange that everywhere that the virus is known to be NOT spreading, i.e. Restaurants, Hotels, Bars are closed and yet that inevitably drives people to socialise where its known to spread the most....Houses

The HSE covid report after the first week in October had 2 or 3 cases in total from bars, restaurants and hotels and nearly 400 from houses.

Christmas might actually be something like it was supposed to be this year and not that mad shite that goes on year after year.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"I would rather see it happrn sooner than later. If it is done now there is the small chance of having a decent Xmas.

Look at New Zealand having a full stadium for the All Blacks game last weekend. No masks in sight. They really did everything right. If we keep going the way we're going its not going to stop.new Zealand is a stand alone country. They did alot right but it's totally diff. I'd hate the thoughts of another level 5 lockdown.

We live on an island? "
we rely on resources been shipped in. We also are joined by the north who are under diff rule

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By *yesgreenMan
over a year ago

north and south

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Yes it’s about people losing There livelihoods That I would worry about, Mortgages bank loans car loans General bills, I can miss Xmas drinks, But also people suffering with depression cancer multitude of illnesses been forgotten , It’s not easy going at the moment

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By *irkmcquickleyMan
over a year ago

drogheda

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes we should go back into lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would rather see it happrn sooner than later. If it is done now there is the small chance of having a decent Xmas.

Look at New Zealand having a full stadium for the All Blacks game last weekend. No masks in sight. They really did everything right. If we keep going the way we're going its not going to stop."

Fuck..never knew the All Black's played to a full non masked crowd ...that's fantastic.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Anyone who says yes is not looking at it from the bigger picture. A full lockdown has to be a last resort. Yes, people are dying still but there is a 99.8% recovery rate. The economy is on its last legs, people loosing their jobs right left and centre, mental health suffering, appointments for other ailments been put on the back burner. It has to stop. NPHET meeting Thursday, we will know more then. I'd say some counties will def hit a L5.

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By *he English OneMan
over a year ago

west

I feel at this stage we should be more focused on the deaths than the cases people are gunna get cases for a very long time even with a vaccine the thing about full lockdown is its literally a temporary measure to lower the cases but as soon as things reopen again the cases will rise again then what another full lockdown and repeat the cycle over and over again covid is gunna simply be a part of our daily lives the same way the flu is

I doubt very much there will be a cure look how long the flu has been around but yet there is no cure from it just simply something we get to be more immune to it

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By *ofusplusCouple
over a year ago

Limerick

No more lockdowns, they only work temporarily and destroy the economy. At least wait the 14 days to see if Level 3 shows any improvement. If no improvement, then open the pubs and restaurants so that house parties are reduced and come down hard on any that happen.

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

I am firmly in the camp of just letting everyone get on with their life. Selfish I know but I have my reasons.

In saying that I do wear a mask when required and wash my hands often.

However, something I wonder regarding masks and perhaps someone can answer this. The virus can enter through your eyes. Correct?

Surely then if this is the case, perhaps this is the source of some of the community transmission.

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By *andy905Man
over a year ago

City Centre

We sorted this once before, everyone came together and despite the usual whingers we did what needed to be done.

Lockdown should be introduced if that's the experts advice, christ knows I'm not going near pubs or restaurants till this is all over anyway. If the economy depended on waiters and flight stewards then we were fucked to begin with!

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth

"So, I just seen we had 7 new deaths from Covid and almost 1000 new cases confirmed here in the north in the last 24 hours. Is it now time for a full island wide lockdown? "

There was talk over the past few days of locking down the 6 counties along with louth.. Monaghan..Cavan and Donegal reason being that people north of the border would cross into the republic to avoid the northern lockdown.. 1 things for sure that border is a mess and should not exist when it comes to public health matters we should all be on the same page

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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago

South Dublin Area

"We sorted this once before, everyone came together and despite the usual whingers we did what needed to be done.

It was the same thing with abortion, on the one hand you had the quibblers and on the other the people who said fuck it: first priority is caring for our people. It's why most polls show people are okay with this, and a few govs have been playing catch up with their public!"
Ahh yes, thats cause we closed the schools amongst other things(which is very unlikely gonna happen again) and 99.9% of the Population bought into the restrictions.

And as for the polls, these are from state sponsored bodies putting a spin on it. The one on private radio station last week had 86% against further restrictions.

It depends on who the ask, its so devisive. No one employeed In private sector wants it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am firmly in the camp of just letting everyone get on with their life. Selfish I know but I have my reasons.

In saying that I do wear a mask when required and wash my hands often.

However, something I wonder regarding masks and perhaps someone can answer this. The virus can enter through your eyes. Correct?

Surely then if this is the case, perhaps this is the source of some of the community transmission."

Yes it can.

Masks can only do so much and if you don't handle them properly (i.e., the way a nurse would), then they aren't much use since the virus is incredibly tiny and airborne and can seemingly transmit on surfaces too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel at this stage we should be more focused on the deaths than the cases people are gunna get cases for a very long time even with a vaccine the thing about full lockdown is its literally a temporary measure to lower the cases but as soon as things reopen again the cases will rise again then what another full lockdown and repeat the cycle over and over again covid is gunna simply be a part of our daily lives the same way the flu is

I doubt very much there will be a cure look how long the flu has been around but yet there is no cure from it just simply something we get to be more immune to it "

The virus is endemic. We have to protect the old and vulnerable now and try the herd immunity approach. Lockdowns are pointless.

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By *anFromMarsMan
over a year ago

North

"I am firmly in the camp of just letting everyone get on with their life. Selfish I know but I have my reasons.

In saying that I do wear a mask when required and wash my hands often.

However, something I wonder regarding masks and perhaps someone can answer this. The virus can enter through your eyes. Correct?

Surely then if this is the case, perhaps this is the source of some of the community transmission."

The virus can only get through your eyes when you touch them with your hands after touching a contaminated surface. This goes back to the importance of washing/sanitizing your hands regularly when out and about and in contact with surfaces other people are touching. When you think about it that's a lot of potential contaminated surfaces so best to avoid touching things as much a possible when out and about, santise regularly and avoid to touching your face and eyes.

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By *DGF20Man
over a year ago

Dublin

Oh lockdown warriors again...God please help them

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

I hope we dont see a L5. Waterford for eg doing very good on the scheme of things compared to some other counties. Remains to be seen what will happen.

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By *rmrs1234Couple
over a year ago

Waterford

"I hope we dont see a L5. Waterford for eg doing very good on the scheme of things compared to some other counties. Remains to be seen what will happen. "

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"I hope we dont see a L5. Waterford for eg doing very good on the scheme of things compared to some other counties. Remains to be seen what will happen.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

"I hope we dont see a L5. Waterford for eg doing very good on the scheme of things compared to some other counties. Remains to be seen what will happen.

Waterford has the lowest incidence rate so far in the country and i dont think they recorded any cases today. I get why they would look at upping levels but I thought the whole idea behind this level plan was that counties that was doing reasonably well wouldnt be facing the same restrictions as counties that werent?exactly my thinking also. "
just cause a county is doing well now don't mean it will stay like that... it can change very quickly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we lockdown again it will destroy lives, more jobs lost and a wreck of an economy, and unfortunately with people crippled financially the suicide rate goes up because people feel they have no way out.There should be an all Ireland approach, how we balance the economy against lives lost is a tough one,but with idiots still having house parties and socialising we need to start getting tough on them.

And for anyone who has lost a loved one from this just remember, they are never truely gone if you can still smile at a happy memory of them

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"I hope we dont see a L5. Waterford for eg doing very good on the scheme of things compared to some other counties. Remains to be seen what will happen.

Waterford has the lowest incidence rate so far in the country and i dont think they recorded any cases today. I get why they would look at upping levels but I thought the whole idea behind this level plan was that counties that was doing reasonably well wouldnt be facing the same restrictions as counties that werent?exactly my thinking also. just cause a county is doing well now don't mean it will stay like that... it can change very quickly "
that's my whole point. U change it as u see fit.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

"I hope we dont see a L5. Waterford for eg doing very good on the scheme of things compared to some other counties. Remains to be seen what will happen.

Waterford has the lowest incidence rate so far in the country and i dont think they recorded any cases today. I get why they would look at upping levels but I thought the whole idea behind this level plan was that counties that was doing reasonably well wouldnt be facing the same restrictions as counties that werent?exactly my thinking also. just cause a county is doing well now don't mean it will stay like that... it can change very quickly that's my whole point. U change it as u see fit. "
I change nothing ...

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By *rmrs1234Couple
over a year ago

Waterford

"I hope we dont see a L5. Waterford for eg doing very good on the scheme of things compared to some other counties. Remains to be seen what will happen.

Waterford has the lowest incidence rate so far in the country and i dont think they recorded any cases today. I get why they would look at upping levels but I thought the whole idea behind this level plan was that counties that was doing reasonably well wouldnt be facing the same restrictions as counties that werent?exactly my thinking also. just cause a county is doing well now don't mean it will stay like that... it can change very quickly "

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

"I hope we dont see a L5. Waterford for eg doing very good on the scheme of things compared to some other counties. Remains to be seen what will happen.

Waterford has the lowest incidence rate so far in the country and i dont think they recorded any cases today. I get why they would look at upping levels but I thought the whole idea behind this level plan was that counties that was doing reasonably well wouldnt be facing the same restrictions as counties that werent?exactly my thinking also. just cause a county is doing well now don't mean it will stay like that... it can change very quickly

yes but was that not the point of the levels. If the numbers started getting out of control then they would be moved up a level and restrictions brought in to curb the numbers again and it would be done on a county by county basis. "
some county's are moving to level 4

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

House visits have just been banned for anything other than essential reasons such as childcare etc

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"I hope we dont see a L5. Waterford for eg doing very good on the scheme of things compared to some other counties. Remains to be seen what will happen.

Waterford has the lowest incidence rate so far in the country and i dont think they recorded any cases today. I get why they would look at upping levels but I thought the whole idea behind this level plan was that counties that was doing reasonably well wouldnt be facing the same restrictions as counties that werent?exactly my thinking also. just cause a county is doing well now don't mean it will stay like that... it can change very quickly

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"House visits have just been banned for anything other than essential reasons such as childcare etc"
yep, that's a level 4 restriction.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"I hope we dont see a L5. Waterford for eg doing very good on the scheme of things compared to some other counties. Remains to be seen what will happen.

Waterford has the lowest incidence rate so far in the country and i dont think they recorded any cases today. I get why they would look at upping levels but I thought the whole idea behind this level plan was that counties that was doing reasonably well wouldnt be facing the same restrictions as counties that werent?exactly my thinking also. just cause a county is doing well now don't mean it will stay like that... it can change very quickly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I doubt very much there will be a cure look how long the flu has been around but yet there is no cure from it just simply something we get to be more immune to it "

Copied from a similar thread:

"People are so fixated on the death rate that they are forgetting about the number of Covid related hospitalisations that are happening... and since those numbers are the ones that are rapidly increasing that is putting more strain on the nhs in general..."

Noticing this rather than the deaths will also help people understand why many of the other important services and treatments (Operations/cancer treatments/ scanning etc) have been put on hold. Sadly delaying of these service are a direct result of people's social behaviour. The knock on result will also be increased premature deaths."

If the health system can't cope then no matter how much the economy is slowly moving forward the country will come to a complete standstill and wide spread non covid deaths will be unimaginable.

Couple that with widespread covid triggered illness of the future. No one knows what long term lasting illnesses Covid is doing as it attacks vital organs and immune system.

Is it really worth that risk? We're talking 3-6 weeks of heavy control because many people didn't act responsibly when they got it or were knowingly in contact with someone who did. We're now all paying the price.

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By *im tim timMan
over a year ago

"House visits have just been banned for anything other than essential reasons such as childcare etcyep, that's a level 4 restriction."

yes thats is a level 4 rule not a level 3 rule.

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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

"I am firmly in the camp of just letting everyone get on with their life. Selfish I know but I have my reasons.

In saying that I do wear a mask when required and wash my hands often.

However, something I wonder regarding masks and perhaps someone can answer this. The virus can enter through your eyes. Correct?

Surely then if this is the case, perhaps this is the source of some of the community transmission."

Hence u wear a mask so that if u contract the virus u limit the droplets u exhale and prevent others from contracting the virus.

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

Instead of whinging about lockdowns and what the goverment are doing. Isn't it about time people actually starting taking responsibility themselves for this.It is spreading because people are not doing what they have been asked to do for months.

The minute the pubs opened how many flocked to them with fuck all regard towards social distancing or wearing masks etc. People held house parties. Even people who bloody tested positive because they weren't feeling ill decided it was bullshit and they must be negative and went to work and yes I know of an instance when this did happen and they spread it into a care home. Others who are positive have gone into shops etc spreading it even more.The lists go on and on but not one person who has done these things seems to be taking any responsibility and just carry on regardless.

The simple truth is it is spreading because people are not caring about it. How many times have we seen the comment on here that the vulnerable can look after themselves and let the others carry on. Seems so many don't have anyone who is vulnerable or don't care if they spread it to another person who does. As long as it doesn't effect them then to hell with the people who die drowning in their beds when their lungs fill with fluid. It's a horrific way for anyone to die with no family to help comfort them. But ack sure it is only a few and they were ill anyhow seems to be the attitude of some.

The simple truth is if people followed guidelines this lockdown would not have to happen.

And I feel so sorry for the businesses who did do everything right and now they have to shut again because others wouldn't.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

"Instead of whinging about lockdowns and what the goverment are doing. Isn't it about time people actually starting taking responsibility themselves for this.It is spreading because people are not doing what they have been asked to do for months.

The simple truth is if people followed guidelines this lockdown would not have to happen.

And I feel so sorry for the businesses who did do everything right and now they have to shut again because others wouldn't."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The simple truth is if people followed guidelines this lockdown would not have to happen.

And I feel so sorry for the businesses who did do everything right and now they have to shut again because others wouldn't."

Exactly Bo

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

The simple truth is if people followed guidelines this lockdown would not have to happen.

And I feel so sorry for the businesses who did do everything right and now they have to shut again because others wouldn't."
the simple truth is and I have said it numerous times. You will never ever get EVERYBODY doing the one thing, no matter what. I'm on social media, people giving out left right and centre over the new rule about nobody in your household while ferry ports and airports remain freely open to do what you like. It's the inconsistencies are annoying people. We got the virus down to single figures through a lockdown with very little open and very little to do. It was great but that's not a way to live at all and peoples mental health and sanity suffered. I have said before, if you're a person who goes to work and does little all else when you're home, maybe watch some tv and or head for a walk, this wont effect u so much. If you're a person with huge involvement in life on a weekly basis, this will effect you hugely. Your life was turned upside down for 3.5 months and now you're back in the one bracket again. There has to be fines introduced for people blatantly breaking the rules because the line "the government and NEPHET request you to do this and that" means jack shit.

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By *onedbodMan
over a year ago

co Galway

Can't meet anyone at your home but you can in a crowded shopping centre ffs ! Bringing in a Lockdown numbers might go down "slightly" but then open things up and bang numbers increase! If the country wasn't run by a shower of clowns things wouldn't be as bad as they are now!

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

The simple truth is if people followed guidelines this lockdown would not have to happen.

And I feel so sorry for the businesses who did do everything right and now they have to shut again because others wouldn't.the simple truth is and I have said it numerous times. You will never ever get EVERYBODY doing the one thing, no matter what. I'm on social media, people giving out left right and centre over the new rule about nobody in your household while ferry ports and airports remain freely open to do what you like. It's the inconsistencies are annoying people. We got the virus down to single figures through a lockdown with very little open and very little to do. It was great but that's not a way to live at all and peoples mental health and sanity suffered. I have said before, if you're a person who goes to work and does little all else when you're home, maybe watch some tv and or head for a walk, this wont effect u so much. If you're a person with huge involvement in life on a weekly basis, this will effect you hugely. Your life was turned upside down for 3.5 months and now you're back in the one bracket again. There has to be fines introduced for people blatantly breaking the rules because the line "the government and NEPHET request you to do this and that" means jack shit. "
but who's gonna police it people gonna be curtain twitching on neighbours who's going in and out. I actually agree with you as it means Jack shit to most. But there are people who will stick to the rules its not just one county there are people in level 4 and 3 that stick to guidelines and then the one's that don't give a shit.

Ive seen it om social media people calling the government muppets for the restrictions and I'm not following them... then you get the ones screaming for total lockdown

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

The simple truth is if people followed guidelines this lockdown would not have to happen.

And I feel so sorry for the businesses who did do everything right and now they have to shut again because others wouldn't.the simple truth is and I have said it numerous times. You will never ever get EVERYBODY doing the one thing, no matter what. I'm on social media, people giving out left right and centre over the new rule about nobody in your household while ferry ports and airports remain freely open to do what you like. It's the inconsistencies are annoying people. We got the virus down to single figures through a lockdown with very little open and very little to do. It was great but that's not a way to live at all and peoples mental health and sanity suffered. I have said before, if you're a person who goes to work and does little all else when you're home, maybe watch some tv and or head for a walk, this wont effect u so much. If you're a person with huge involvement in life on a weekly basis, this will effect you hugely. Your life was turned upside down for 3.5 months and now you're back in the one bracket again. There has to be fines introduced for people blatantly breaking the rules because the line "the government and NEPHET request you to do this and that" means jack shit. but who's gonna police it people gonna be curtain twitching on neighbours who's going in and out. I actually agree with you as it means Jack shit to most. But there are people who will stick to the rules its not just one county there are people in level 4 and 3 that stick to guidelines and then the one's that don't give a shit.

Ive seen it om social media people calling the government muppets for the restrictions and I'm not following them... then you get the ones screaming for total lockdown "
its as simple as this. Since we exited lockdown people are trying to do the things they couldnt when in full lockdown and living as normal a life as possible.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

I lost my job as a direct result of covid. After 6 months of uncertainty and not knowing what was happening I was made redundant for the first time in my life.

Unlike many others I was extremely lucky to find another job on half my previous salary but still better than the dole.

Because of yesterdays announcement that job is now at risk too and I'm not covered by any of the government packages.

I don't believe the increased restrictions are the answer but they should be a slap in the face or kick in the balls for those who take pleasure in ignoring guidelines for whatever reason.

Those people who are meeting in large groups or still insisting they don't need a mask as they feel fine and our friendly neighborhood fabbers flaunting their latest party verification.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

The simple truth is if people followed guidelines this lockdown would not have to happen.

And I feel so sorry for the businesses who did do everything right and now they have to shut again because others wouldn't.the simple truth is and I have said it numerous times. You will never ever get EVERYBODY doing the one thing, no matter what. I'm on social media, people giving out left right and centre over the new rule about nobody in your household while ferry ports and airports remain freely open to do what you like. It's the inconsistencies are annoying people. We got the virus down to single figures through a lockdown with very little open and very little to do. It was great but that's not a way to live at all and peoples mental health and sanity suffered. I have said before, if you're a person who goes to work and does little all else when you're home, maybe watch some tv and or head for a walk, this wont effect u so much. If you're a person with huge involvement in life on a weekly basis, this will effect you hugely. Your life was turned upside down for 3.5 months and now you're back in the one bracket again. There has to be fines introduced for people blatantly breaking the rules because the line "the government and NEPHET request you to do this and that" means jack shit. but who's gonna police it people gonna be curtain twitching on neighbours who's going in and out. I actually agree with you as it means Jack shit to most. But there are people who will stick to the rules its not just one county there are people in level 4 and 3 that stick to guidelines and then the one's that don't give a shit.

Ive seen it om social media people calling the government muppets for the restrictions and I'm not following them... then you get the ones screaming for total lockdown its as simple as this. Since we exited lockdown people are trying to do the things they couldnt when in full lockdown and living as normal a life as possible. "
but its not that easy my daughters birthday next Friday she will be able to sit in her classroom and see various teachers throughout the day, she can't see her dad as he lives in another country he can't come to the house either she don't understand that and quite frankly neither do I.... so what do I go with the guidelines or break them.

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By *cottybear74Man
over a year ago

kilkenny

People at house parties €100 on the spot fines.

People in large groups €100 on the spot fines.

That should stop all that.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

The simple truth is if people followed guidelines this lockdown would not have to happen.

And I feel so sorry for the businesses who did do everything right and now they have to shut again because others wouldn't.the simple truth is and I have said it numerous times. You will never ever get EVERYBODY doing the one thing, no matter what. I'm on social media, people giving out left right and centre over the new rule about nobody in your household while ferry ports and airports remain freely open to do what you like. It's the inconsistencies are annoying people. We got the virus down to single figures through a lockdown with very little open and very little to do. It was great but that's not a way to live at all and peoples mental health and sanity suffered. I have said before, if you're a person who goes to work and does little all else when you're home, maybe watch some tv and or head for a walk, this wont effect u so much. If you're a person with huge involvement in life on a weekly basis, this will effect you hugely. Your life was turned upside down for 3.5 months and now you're back in the one bracket again. There has to be fines introduced for people blatantly breaking the rules because the line "the government and NEPHET request you to do this and that" means jack shit. but who's gonna police it people gonna be curtain twitching on neighbours who's going in and out. I actually agree with you as it means Jack shit to most. But there are people who will stick to the rules its not just one county there are people in level 4 and 3 that stick to guidelines and then the one's that don't give a shit.

Ive seen it om social media people calling the government muppets for the restrictions and I'm not following them... then you get the ones screaming for total lockdown its as simple as this. Since we exited lockdown people are trying to do the things they couldnt when in full lockdown and living as normal a life as possible. but its not that easy my daughters birthday next Friday she will be able to sit in her classroom and see various teachers throughout the day, she can't see her dad as he lives in another country he can't come to the house either she don't understand that and quite frankly neither do I.... so what do I go with the guidelines or break them. "
that's totally upto yourself.

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over a year ago

Went to pick up kuds from national school yesterday and again there was ony about 20% of parents with face masks and total lack of social distancing. The school is doin their best by letting kids out in 5 or 10 minute intervals. But parents are ignoring the protocols put in place. Guess you cant teach Stupid!!

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"Went to pick up kuds from national school yesterday and again there was ony about 20% of parents with face masks and total lack of social distancing. The school is doin their best by letting kids out in 5 or 10 minute intervals. But parents are ignoring the protocols put in place. Guess you cant teach Stupid!!"
were the parents outdoors waiting for kids?

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

There never was an indoor picking up kids, not even before covid-19.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

There never was an indoor picking up kids, not even before covid-19.

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that's why they had no masks on then.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Speaking to a HSE worker yesterday, covid effects you many times more indoor she told me. Also if you're less then 2m from a person for over 15 minutes. I think some people have complete paranoia how near or how long they're with a person.

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over a year ago

"Speaking to a HSE worker yesterday, covid effects you many times more indoor she told me. Also if you're less then 2m from a person for over 15 minutes. I think some people have complete paranoia how near or how long they're with a person. "

Yes, and others are stupid enough to think you won't get it from people you know and "trust"

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Yes that's correct, but it's wise to social distance even in an outdoor setting.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Yes that's correct, but it's wise to social distance even in an outdoor setting. "
again that's my point. If you're a parent collecting a child and your chatting to other parents who you know while waiting, naturally you will stand next to them while chatting unless you have extreme paranoia and you bring a measuring tape.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Yes, and others are stupid enough to think you won't get it from people you know and "trust""
I dont think they are. I think they're gone beyond the point of "thinking" before you do everything.

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

Yes that's correct, but it's wise to social distance even in an outdoor setting. again that's my point. If you're a parent collecting a child and your chatting to other parents who you know while waiting, naturally you will stand next to them while chatting unless you have extreme paranoia and you bring a measuring tape. "

Ah ffs now I heard it all..if people don't have the intelligence to social distance even when having a conversation outdoors then it's no bloody surprise that it is spreading. All these excuses people are rolling out are just that excuses. You don't need a measuring tape to know roughly what distance you should be away from people. If you are in a crowded area even outdoors to pick your kids or whatever up surely it is common sense to wear a mask. If someone coughs in your close vicinity and they have covid and they aren't wearing a mask well guess what chances are you will pick it up even if you aren't near them for 15 mins.

But ya know what carry on do whatever ye want make all the excuses under the sun as to why ye should be exempt from the simple measures that actually do help stop the spread of it. But don't be whinging and boo hooing about how tough it is on you when everyone is forced back into lockdown because you decided to just carry on.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

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ah dont be so exagerative. You have a few parents outdoors waiting to pick their kids up from school, not hundreds huddled in a ball together. You have people every single day commenting on what everybody else is doing. Its also worth thinking are schools and colleges returning an issue, huge spikes in cases a few weeks after returning. This comment is interesting also

What about the Fact that Covid levels have risen since the schools opened. Risen further with colleges. What about Factories riddled with The virus. What about the Fact that 150,000 people travelled to Ireland just last week from hotspot countries!!! Well This Unelected shower of Twats can go take a run and jump if they think I'm not visiting my Family.

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By *ohn400Man
over a year ago

Dublin or anywhere

we should have had full lockdown 2 months ago for about a month...it would be all over by now // its out of control now as it is.

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

ah dont be so exagerative. You have a few parents outdoors waiting to pick their kids up from school, not hundreds huddled in a ball together. You have people every single day commenting on what everybody else is doing. Its also worth thinking are schools and colleges returning an issue, huge spikes in cases a few weeks after returning. This comment is interesting also

Why is saying just social distance when out exaggerating exactly? Is that too hard for you to understand or are you just looking to pick argumenta with anyone who doesn't fully agree with you.

And yes I agree allowing people into the country is ridiculous and definitely not helping the situation. But then people flying off for their holidays and coming back and not self isolating is happening as well

There's faults everywhere.But until people start taking responsibility for their actions then it's going to keep spreading.

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over a year ago

Why is saying just social distance when out exaggerating exactly? Is that too hard for you to understand or are you just looking to pick argumenta with anyone who doesn't fully agree with you.

There's faults everywhere.But until people start taking responsibility for their actions then it's going to keep spreading. "

Yep, everyone is brandishing their "well he's doing this, so I should be able to do that", grow the fuck up and take responsibility for your own actions. People complain about a nanny state while behaving like petulant children

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Why is saying just social distance when out exaggerating exactly? Is that too hard for you to understand or are you just looking to pick argumenta with anyone who doesn't fully agree with you.

There's faults everywhere.But until people start taking responsibility for their actions then it's going to keep spreading. "
as I said to u a few posts ago, you will never ever get everybody doing the one thing. Social distancing? When people go out and stop to chat, chances are the stand next to each other while talking. While out working this morning I have seen loads stop to chat. Stand a couple of feet away and natter for a few mins. That's not looking for an argument, that's what is happening. You can have 6 people at the one table in a pub from 2 diff households and on you go with it.

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

Why is saying just social distance when out exaggerating exactly? Is that too hard for you to understand or are you just looking to pick argumenta with anyone who doesn't fully agree with you.

There's faults everywhere.But until people start taking responsibility for their actions then it's going to keep spreading.

exactly.

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By *r tayt2Man
over a year ago

Trim

"I lost my job as a direct result of covid. After 6 months of uncertainty and not knowing what was happening I was made redundant for the first time in my life.

Unlike many others I was extremely lucky to find another job on half my previous salary but still better than the dole.

Because of yesterdays announcement that job is now at risk too and I'm not covered by any of the government packages.

I don't believe the increased restrictions are the answer but they should be a slap in the face or kick in the balls for those who take pleasure in ignoring guidelines for whatever reason.

Those people who are meeting in large groups or still insisting they don't need a mask as they feel fine and our friendly neighborhood fabbers flaunting their latest party verification.

We can't rely on people taking responsibility because so many have already proven they aren't capable of doing that because they are above all that and so they batter on with their beligerant attitudes. With you there mate work been same for me lost a shit load as some of my work is in exhibition sector got totally wiped and nothing was said here's your covid and fuck off

And nothing goin to happen in that sector untill may 21 maybe lockdown was wasted we mite not have bothered

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

At the end of the day people are going to do what they want to do, guidelines or no guidlines.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

"At the end of the day people are going to do what they want to do, guidelines or no guidlines. "
and that is precisely why we are in the position we are in today

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

"At the end of the day people are going to do what they want to do, guidelines or no guidlines. and that is precisely why we are in the position we are in today "

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"At the end of the day people are going to do what they want to do, guidelines or no guidlines. and that is precisely why we are in the position we are in today "
no point complaining. I keep saying the one thing since day 1. You will never get everybody doing the one thing. Sorry, u did for a 3.5 month lockdown but not any more.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"At the end of the day people are going to do what they want to do, guidelines or no guidlines. and that is precisely why we are in the position we are in today no point complaining. I keep saying the one thing since day 1. You will never get everybody doing the one thing. Sorry, u did for a 3.5 month lockdown but not any more. "

I'd say most people with some sort of sense of responsibility will stick to the guidelines to keep themselves and their loved ones safe as good as they can and to keep our health system functioning.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

I'd say most people with some sort of sense of responsibility will stick to the guidelines to keep themselves and their loved ones safe as good as they can and to keep our health system functioning. "
but that's not enough. You need more then "most people".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd say most people with some sort of sense of responsibility will stick to the guidelines to keep themselves and their loved ones safe as good as they can and to keep our health system functioning. but that's not enough. You need more then "most people". "

Well unfortunately, we're stuck with the selfish and stupid.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

I'd say most people with some sort of sense of responsibility will stick to the guidelines to keep themselves and their loved ones safe as good as they can and to keep our health system functioning. but that's not enough. You need more then "most people".

Well unfortunately, we're stuck with the selfish and stupid."
and the only way to deal with that is like what Australia did, heavy fines.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just think it's funny how do many just think it's unfair that they have to take responsibility for their own actions, whether it's because they have behave responsibly and others have ruined it for them or others who behaved irresponsibly and put us back where we are and don't like that fact. Then there are those who want others to placate being irresponsible.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

What's funny also is from a cabinet meeting yesterday and record daily numbers, the only thing they come up with is you cannot go to another person's house. Surely to god at this stage NEPHET know the problem areas or is it a case they havnt a clue how to stop it as there is so much community transmission and also so many asymptomatic people.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"What's funny also is from a cabinet meeting yesterday and record daily numbers, the only thing they come up with is you cannot go to another person's house. Surely to god at this stage NEPHET know the problem areas or is it a case they havnt a clue how to stop it as there is so much community transmission and also so many asymptomatic people. NEPHET want level 5 on all county's they advise the goverment it's the goverment decision..if it was down to NEPHET solely we would all be on level 5 ."
and I heard some on the radio (counties who are doing relatively good) saying everybody cannot be punished the same way. I think the reason were not in L5 is the government are trying to save businesses and the economy.

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

I think they should have locked down 2 weeks ago and brought in heavy fines for anyone not wearing a mask and for anyone breaking the non essential travel rules.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"I think they should have locked down 2 weeks ago and brought in heavy fines for anyone not wearing a mask and for anyone breaking the non essential travel rules. "
WHO even came out last week criticising country wide full lockdowns and said county by country full lockdowns is the way to go. Dublin has huge numbers, Waterford doing reasonably well. It makes no sense on putting both those counties on the one level but I absolutely agree with u, fines should be introduced.

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By *P_80Man
over a year ago

Waterford

I'd say most people with some sort of sense of responsibility will stick to the guidelines to keep themselves and their loved ones safe as good as they can and to keep our health system functioning. but that's not enough. You need more then "most people".

Well unfortunately, we're stuck with the selfish and stupid.and the only way to deal with that is like what Australia did, heavy fines. "

Can't fine people if they're not breaking any law.

Whatever anyone thinks, the fact is that everything the government tells you to do is just guidelines, or advising us not to do certain things.

For example, you're free to travel anywhere in the country, but you're advised not to. There's no law against it.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

I'd say most people with some sort of sense of responsibility will stick to the guidelines to keep themselves and their loved ones safe as good as they can and to keep our health system functioning. but that's not enough. You need more then "most people".

Well unfortunately, we're stuck with the selfish and stupid.and the only way to deal with that is like what Australia did, heavy fines.

Can't fine people if they're not breaking any law.

Whatever anyone thinks, the fact is that everything the government tells you to do is just guidelines, or advising us not to do certain things.

For example, you're free to travel anywhere in the country, but you're advised not to. There's no law against it.

All you have to do is look around any Supermacs, Burger King etc. to see that some people don't even have the decency to clean up after themselves, so why would we expect them to follow a few simple guidelines?"
they must of introduced something in aus so as have relation there and he said they were struggling to get people to comply and then brought in fines and everything is flying now

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over a year ago

"I think they should have locked down 2 weeks ago and brought in heavy fines for anyone not wearing a mask and for anyone breaking the non essential travel rules. WHO even came out last week criticising country wide full lockdowns and said county by country full lockdowns is the way to go. Dublin has huge numbers, Waterford doing reasonably well. It makes no sense on putting both those counties on the one level but I absolutely agree with u, fines should be introduced. "

The WHO didn't actually criticise those doing it at all, what they said in their memo was its not recommended for most but chould be used as the last resort. Some have then interpreted it as if it shouldn't be done at all.

I agree it's unfair for the lines of Waterford and others but the problem is those in Dublin and other high infected areas sadly won't just stay and keep it to themselves.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

I agree it's unfair for the lines of Waterford and others but the problem is those in Dublin and other high infected areas sadly won't just stay and keep it to themselves.

This is the bottom line issue, there are many people who aren't adhering to the rules and guidelines, many are just trying to find ways around them. All it could take is a few take it to Waterford and pass it around."
the WHO recommended stricter county by county guidlines first. Thats what the 5 level plan is about but NEPHET just wanted everyone put into level 5. If you have everyone at the one level it's easier manage but very unfair on counties doing reasonably well. People continuously saying "we are where we are because some wont follow guidlines". That wont change as you'll never get everybody doing the one thing.

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By *rnyladniMan
over a year ago

Limavady

Should have been done a long time ago.

Although I fail to see how a lockdown works with airports and ports open and a self quarantine system in place.

It should be a forced quarantine

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By *P_80Man
over a year ago

Waterford

I'd say most people with some sort of sense of responsibility will stick to the guidelines to keep themselves and their loved ones safe as good as they can and to keep our health system functioning. but that's not enough. You need more then "most people".

Well unfortunately, we're stuck with the selfish and stupid.and the only way to deal with that is like what Australia did, heavy fines.

Can't fine people if they're not breaking any law.

Whatever anyone thinks, the fact is that everything the government tells you to do is just guidelines, or advising us not to do certain things.

For example, you're free to travel anywhere in the country, but you're advised not to. There's no law against it.

All you have to do is look around any Supermacs, Burger King etc. to see that some people don't even have the decency to clean up after themselves, so why would we expect them to follow a few simple guidelines?they must of introduced something in aus so as have relation there and he said they were struggling to get people to comply and then brought in fines and everything is flying now "

I was only talking about Ireland, don't know how Australia went about it.

It's just a mess from the government here. Telling you not to do something but you're free to do it if you choose to.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

I'd say most people with some sort of sense of responsibility will stick to the guidelines to keep themselves and their loved ones safe as good as they can and to keep our health system functioning. but that's not enough. You need more then "most people".

Well unfortunately, we're stuck with the selfish and stupid.and the only way to deal with that is like what Australia did, heavy fines.

Can't fine people if they're not breaking any law.

Whatever anyone thinks, the fact is that everything the government tells you to do is just guidelines, or advising us not to do certain things.

For example, you're free to travel anywhere in the country, but you're advised not to. There's no law against it.

All you have to do is look around any Supermacs, Burger King etc. to see that some people don't even have the decency to clean up after themselves, so why would we expect them to follow a few simple guidelines?they must of introduced something in aus so as have relation there and he said they were struggling to get people to comply and then brought in fines and everything is flying now

I was only talking about Ireland, don't know how Australia went about it.

It's just a mess from the government here. Telling you not to do something but you're free to do it if you choose to."
its like I said earlier. I think people complied for the full lockdown but then things opened up, people started living their lives and now cases rise. Realistically if you stopped and thought about it, you could easily see what was going to happen.

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By *assion and MoreCouple
over a year ago

Here and There, Monaghan

"So, I just seen we had 7 new deaths from Covid and almost 1000 new cases confirmed here in the north in the last 24 hours. Is it now time for a full island wide lockdown? "

Or maybe the North should get it's act together and the surge

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By *oo32Man
over a year ago

tipperary

I'd say most people with some sort of sense of responsibility will stick to the guidelines to keep themselves and their loved ones safe as good as they can and to keep our health system functioning. but that's not enough. You need more then "most people".

Well unfortunately, we're stuck with the selfish and stupid.and the only way to deal with that is like what Australia did, heavy fines.

Can't fine people if they're not breaking any law.

Whatever anyone thinks, the fact is that everything the government tells you to do is just guidelines, or advising us not to do certain things.

For example, you're free to travel anywhere in the country, but you're advised not to. There's no law against it.

All you have to do is look around any Supermacs, Burger King etc. to see that some people don't even have the decency to clean up after themselves, so why would we expect them to follow a few simple guidelines?they must of introduced something in aus so as have relation there and he said they were struggling to get people to comply and then brought in fines and everything is flying now

I was only talking about Ireland, don't know how Australia went about it.

It's just a mess from the government here. Telling you not to do something but you're free to do it if you choose to."

It means taking responsibility for our own actions....

Some did...others tried to and some didnt bother their arses and wont bother

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Looks like a lot of clusters are linked to GAA celebrations after the matches.

The other bulk of clusters is in family settings where people fail to isolate until they have their results and still attend family festivities.

In both cases stupidity knows no bound!

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By *ohng69Man
over a year ago

athenry

"Looks like a lot of clusters are linked to GAA celebrations after the matches.

The other bulk of clusters is in family settings where people fail to isolate until they have their results and still attend family festivities.

In both cases stupidity knows no bound! "
exactly, and we haven't seen the end of it yet in regards to the gaa celebrations. Communions and confirmations are the other cause of outbreaks in families.

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over a year ago

"Looks like a lot of clusters are linked to GAA celebrations after the matches.

The other bulk of clusters is in family settings where people fail to isolate until they have their results and still attend family festivities.

In both cases stupidity knows no bound! "

There was a deluge of communions and confirmations in the last few weeks. It's natural that virus will spread where large numbers gather in close proximity.

I don't buy Simon Harris point that calling around to someone's house for a coffee has to stop. It's the 6 plus people in a house with lots of alcohol on board that causes more spread....but everyone now has to suffer because of the wreakless behavior of others.

The irony of course is that the parties will continue regardless. People will pick up the virus at a party, and when the contact tracing phone call comes, they will deny they were ever at a party...

It's all fcuked up now until at least next April.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Looks like a lot of clusters are linked to GAA celebrations after the matches.

The other bulk of clusters is in family settings where people fail to isolate until they have their results and still attend family festivities.

In both cases stupidity knows no bound!

There was a deluge of communions and confirmations in the last few weeks. It's natural that virus will spread where large numbers gather in close proximity.

The irony of course is that the parties will continue regardless. People will pick up the virus at a party, and when the contact tracing phone call comes, they will deny they were ever at a party...

It's all fcuked up now until at least next April.

This seems a pretty accurate summery of the situation.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

You had a case yesterday where a child went to school having gotten a test (parents never isolated the child). Child tested positive and now the whole class and teacher are at home. Likewise, a person tests positive. Their close contacts have to isolate and be tested but alot dont. Its alot of stupidity causing the spread.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

"You had a case yesterday where a child went to school having gotten a test (parents never isolated the child). Child tested positive and now the whole class and teacher are at home. Likewise, a person tests positive. Their close contacts have to isolate and be tested but alot dont. Its alot of stupidity causing the spread. "
cases like that if you have been tested positive and you don't isolate and put others at risk then I believe that person should be fined

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Contact tracing is now a waste of time.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Contact tracing is now a waste of time."
its basically if people dont feel sick they continue with life.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

A girl this morning crying nearly, young woman, lost her job, said shes had no proper social life with 8 months, waking up every day to covid this covid that covid the other. She was blunt. She said I'm sick to the teeth of living my life to concern others. I long for the day where I can live my life to please myself. She went on to say we enter a L5, we suppress the numbers but we have to live life and live with covid. Covid will always be here. I think her comments sum up alot of young people. They dont know when theyll get their lives back.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman
over a year ago

My town

"A girl this morning crying nearly, young woman, lost her job, said shes had no proper social life with 8 months, waking up every day to covid this covid that covid the other. She was blunt. She said I'm sick to the teeth of living my life to concern others. I long for the day where I can live my life to please myself. She went on to say we enter a L5, we suppress the numbers but we have to live life and live with covid. Covid will always be here. I think her comments sum up alot of young people. They dont know when theyll get their lives back."
its not just young people I'm far from young i want my life back and for everyone I don't think one single person is living the times we living in. My father has he's elderly mother in UK you don't think its not crossed his mind will he ever see her again.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"A girl this morning crying nearly, young woman, lost her job, said shes had no proper social life with 8 months, waking up every day to covid this covid that covid the other. She was blunt. She said I'm sick to the teeth of living my life to concern others. I long for the day where I can live my life to please myself. She went on to say we enter a L5, we suppress the numbers but we have to live life and live with covid. Covid will always be here. I think her comments sum up alot of young people. They dont know when theyll get their lives back.its not just young people I'm far from young i want my life back and for everyone I don't think one single person is living the times we living in. My father has he's elderly mother in UK you don't think its not crossed his mind will he ever see her again. "
I think her point was in alot of cases young people live a more active life then older ones. A carefree dont want you want attitude to life. Your life stipulations kinda change when u get older, have kids, marry settle that sort of thing.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"A girl this morning crying nearly, young woman, lost her job, said shes had no proper social life with 8 months, waking up every day to covid this covid that covid the other. She was blunt. She said I'm sick to the teeth of living my life to concern others. I long for the day where I can live my life to please myself. She went on to say we enter a L5, we suppress the numbers but we have to live life and live with covid. Covid will always be here. I think her comments sum up alot of young people. They dont know when theyll get their lives back.its not just young people I'm far from young i want my life back and for everyone I don't think one single person is living the times we living in. My father has he's elderly mother in UK you don't think its not crossed his mind will he ever see her again. I think her point was in alot of cases young people live a more active life then older ones. A carefree dont want you want attitude to life. Your life stipulations kinda change when u get older, have kids, marry settle that sort of thing. "
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By *j47Man
over a year ago

limerick

And its terrible that so many young people have to put their life's on hold for the sakes of others. Its not the first time WW1 thousands put their lives on hold wait thousands gave their lives for the sake of others,WW2 yet again thousands gave their lives so that we could survive.

Yes we have to live with covid and that means changes how we work how we socialise how we exist you know and i know that it will never be the same again

Living with covid will change how we function and how we treat mental health how we communicate and yes how we meet and fuck

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Yes we have to live with covid and that means changes how we work how we socialise how we exist you know and i know that it will never be the same again

Living with covid will change how we function and how we treat mental health how we communicate and yes how we meet and fuck "
it most deffo wont for me. There will come a point down the line. It could be January, it could be next summer where I'll say along with many others, fuck this I'm going back to a normal life. Asking people to not live there own life to the full and consider others will only last for so long.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

If you have to continue living like this indefinitely, suicides will go through the roof at an alarming rate.

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over a year ago

Potentially controversial opinion here but, I'm noticed some positive outcomes from covid (as well as many negative ones, obvs).

I think it's really helped us open up the conversation about mental health generally and loneliness in particular. That can only be a good thing.

I think it's forced a lot of us to slow down, stop trying to constantly achieve achieve achieve, be everywhere and everything and lead these compulsively busy but, ultimately, deeply unhealthy lives.

I think it's helped us to appreciate the connections in our lives more. Being unable to see lived ones, or our friends, has given many of us a new appreciation of these people and the joy/comfort/belonging they bring us.

And I think it's helped alot of us get back to basics a bit. Realising that you can sit at home and play board games on a Friday night, instead of doing lines of in some dingey pub, is helping a lot of people to let go of toxic lifestyles and reconnect with themselves.

I'm not posting this to in any way diminish the hardship we're all facing right now. Sincerely, I'm not. But I think that it's important to try and find gratitude where we can and see that although we've all lost a lot, we've also gained some things too.

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By *ohn400Man
over a year ago

Dublin or anywhere

Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /

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By *oo32Man
over a year ago

tipperary

Yes we have to live with covid and that means changes how we work how we socialise how we exist you know and i know that it will never be the same again

Living with covid will change how we function and how we treat mental health how we communicate and yes how we meet and fuck it most deffo wont for me. There will come a point down the line. It could be January, it could be next summer where I'll say along with many others, fuck this I'm going back to a normal life. Asking people to not live there own life to the full and consider others will only last for so long. "

That's the attitude that has us close to full lockdown again....

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /"
NEPHET have recommended 6weeks. Government are taking the weekend to consider it.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Yes we have to live with covid and that means changes how we work how we socialise how we exist you know and i know that it will never be the same again

That's the attitude that has us close to full lockdown again....

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its not. The vast majority, me included are doing the right think but as I said if were at the same stage next summer, alot will say enough Is enough. Life is for living and to the fullest.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /NEPHET have recommended 6weeks. Government are taking the weekend to consider it. "

I cant see the government sticking its neck out again and refusing the advice.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /NEPHET have recommended 6weeks. Government are taking the weekend to consider it.

I cant see the government sticking its neck out again and refusing the advice."
I hope they only fully lockdown certain counties but I cant see it. They're under enormous pressure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /NEPHET have recommended 6weeks. Government are taking the weekend to consider it.

I cant see the government sticking its neck out again and refusing the advice."

Nor me, with hospitals edging up to capacity, and winter hasn't even started yet. If some people won't comply willingly with low level restrictions, shutdown will be forced on us all. Sad but true

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By *oo32Man
over a year ago

tipperary

It's coming alright,people havnt copped on....pubs opened and folks went ape

House parties

Gaa....matches and celebrations

Even the simple thing of sanatising your hands seems to be loSt on some people

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By *ohn400Man
over a year ago

Dublin or anywhere

full lockdown sorted for 8wks from next sunday nite /

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"full lockdown sorted for 8wks from next sunday nite /"

Where did you hear that?

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By *ohn400Man
over a year ago

Dublin or anywhere

government buildings /

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

"government buildings /"

Yes thats how it works alright ....I'm in a post office and thats a government building .....they say you're wrong

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"full lockdown sorted for 8wks from next sunday nite /"
that hasn't been decided yet at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes I wonder how many of the men on fab really work in Leinster House. Cos by the looks of things, it's a lot!

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By *atherjackhackettMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /"

I think it will certainly happen this time. Maybe with a tweak of 3 or 4 weeks instead of 6. Or a revision after 3 weeks. But then there will be some serious queuing for xmas shopping. It's a mess.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /

I think it will certainly happen this time. Maybe with a tweak of 3 or 4 weeks instead of 6. Or a revision after 3 weeks. But then there will be some serious queuing for xmas shopping. It's a mess."
a professor yesterday on saying if we go L5, we will be lucky to be out of it in February.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /

I think it will certainly happen this time. Maybe with a tweak of 3 or 4 weeks instead of 6. Or a revision after 3 weeks. But then there will be some serious queuing for xmas shopping. It's a mess."

I imagine it will have to be longer, because people are so fucking stupid we will be back to square one within a month of reopening anyway. And have people not heard of online shopping?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /

I think it will certainly happen this time. Maybe with a tweak of 3 or 4 weeks instead of 6. Or a revision after 3 weeks. But then there will be some serious queuing for xmas shopping. It's a mess.

I imagine it will have to be longer, because people are so fucking stupid we will be back to square one within a month of reopening anyway. And have people not heard of online shopping?"

I think a lot of people are trying to support local businesses this year, and rightly so, and want to do that for Christmas..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /

I think it will certainly happen this time. Maybe with a tweak of 3 or 4 weeks instead of 6. Or a revision after 3 weeks. But then there will be some serious queuing for xmas shopping. It's a mess.

I imagine it will have to be longer, because people are so fucking stupid we will be back to square one within a month of reopening anyway. And have people not heard of online shopping?

I think a lot of people are trying to support local businesses this year, and rightly so, and want to do that for Christmas.. "

I would agree with supporting local businesses, not sure Penney's or Smyth's toys really fit this category though.

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By *owdyboy 890Man
over a year ago

Country West

Nphet couldn't give a flyer about the economy and if we were in level 5 at Xmas it wouldn't worry them whereas the government would want it open at Xmas for the economy and business so have to balance it out and then you'll probably have a no deal Brexit too for more problems...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /

I think it will certainly happen this time. Maybe with a tweak of 3 or 4 weeks instead of 6. Or a revision after 3 weeks. But then there will be some serious queuing for xmas shopping. It's a mess.

I imagine it will have to be longer, because people are so fucking stupid we will be back to square one within a month of reopening anyway. And have people not heard of online shopping?

I think a lot of people are trying to support local businesses this year, and rightly so, and want to do that for Christmas..

I would agree with supporting local businesses, not sure Penney's or Smyth's toys really fit this category though."

Haha true. But they do employ locals so they're important to the local economy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nphet couldn't give a flyer about the economy and if we were in level 5 at Xmas it wouldn't worry them whereas the government would want it open at Xmas for the economy and business so have to balance it out and then you'll probably have a no deal Brexit too for more problems..."

Yeah, we're doubly fucked come January

I'm taking bets here on 6 week level 4 starting tomorrow night, any takers?

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By *ed_AliceWoman
over a year ago

Belfast

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /

I think it will certainly happen this time. Maybe with a tweak of 3 or 4 weeks instead of 6. Or a revision after 3 weeks. But then there will be some serious queuing for xmas shopping. It's a mess.

I imagine it will have to be longer, because people are so fucking stupid we will be back to square one within a month of reopening anyway. And have people not heard of online shopping?

I think a lot of people are trying to support local businesses this year, and rightly so, and want to do that for Christmas.. "

A lot of small local businesses also have online retailing or telephone/mail order services, some through their social media or hosting sites.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Full lockdown is coming this week..its been discussed this morning in government /

I think it will certainly happen this time. Maybe with a tweak of 3 or 4 weeks instead of 6. Or a revision after 3 weeks. But then there will be some serious queuing for xmas shopping. It's a mess.

I imagine it will have to be longer, because people are so fucking stupid we will be back to square one within a month of reopening anyway. And have people not heard of online shopping?

I think a lot of people are trying to support local businesses this year, and rightly so, and want to do that for Christmas..

A lot of small local businesses also have online retailing or telephone/mail order services, some through their social media or hosting sites."

Yes, but most don't. Hopefully this will encourage the ones who are slow to embrace change to move the fuck forward and sell online! Sad to see businesses crash and burn because they weren't ready for lockdown.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

What's the norm in life? Communions , confirmation, wedding, 21sts 30th , 60th, winning a county title etc etc etc. These are naming just some that involve celebrations. Also commemorating a persons life after a funeral. People have celebrated them and now a GP is saying they have caused outbreaks. The thing that bothers people is when can they go back to all these again and more, living their life to the fullest. People are doing their nut as they see no end in sight and let's be honest, it looks like there is no end in sight without a vaccine. Peoples whole lives have been turned upside down and you're asked to live your life in a way that takes into the account others, especially vulnerable and suspectable so what that means is you're not living your own life the way you want. I'm sorry to say but that can only last so long. What if next year, the year after, 5 years time, there is no vaccine... where do we go.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Yeah, we're doubly fucked come January

I'm taking bets here on 6 week level 4 starting tomorrow night, any takers?"
government are taking weekend to consider as far as I'm aware so prob wont be tomorrow night.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What's the norm in life? Communions , confirmation, wedding, 21sts 30th , 60th, winning a county title etc etc etc. These are naming just some that involve celebrations. Also commemorating a persons life after a funeral. People have celebrated them and now a GP is saying they have caused outbreaks. The thing that bothers people is when can they go back to all these again and more, living their life to the fullest. People are doing their nut as they see no end in sight and let's be honest, it looks like there is no end in sight without a vaccine. Peoples whole lives have been turned upside down and you're asked to live your life in a way that takes into the account others, especially vulnerable and suspectable so what that means is you're not living your own life the way you want. I'm sorry to say but that can only last so long. What if next year, the year after, 5 years time, there is no vaccine... where do we go. "

YES. WE KNOW. ITS SHIT. CAN YOH PLEASE TRY PLAYING A DIFFERENT TUNE?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Which is why people need to cop the fuck on and do the basics, it's not rocket science. There's no entitlement to do as you like without regard for the health and welfare of the rest of the population. We can all have a decent quality of life with some restrictions.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

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over a year ago

Yep, and it's because of those people that we all have to suffer

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

L5 will suppress the numbers while crippling the economy and business. We all know that. The country then opens up more and more as time moves along with more and more cases arising. I'd say this will be life until hopefully a vaccine.

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over a year ago

"L5 will suppress the numbers while crippling the economy and business. We all know that. The country then opens up more and more as time moves along with more and more cases arising. I'd say this will be life until hopefully a vaccine. "

No shit, Sherlock!!

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By *rmrs1234Couple
over a year ago

Waterford

No shit, Sherlock!!"

I love that saying

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Yep, and it's because of those people that we all have to suffer"
sure we all know, even NEPHET and the government, EVERYBODY wont do everything they're asked in life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never wanted to key someone's car more.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

No shit, Sherlock!!"
the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then. "

Nobody knows.

Thats the answer. You can stop asking now. NOBODY KNOWS.

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By *rmrs1234Couple
over a year ago

Waterford

well move into a mad max version of the world and duke it out for a vaccine in the thunderdome

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

Nobody knows.

Thats the answer. You can stop asking now. NOBODY KNOWS. "
I'll keep saying whatever I like. It's a free forum to write what u like same as it's free to ignore what u like. I still cannot for the life of me understand why the country all have to hit a L5.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only 19 more posts to go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Only 19 more posts to go

*weeps

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

Nobody knows.

Thats the answer. You can stop asking now. NOBODY KNOWS. I'll keep saying whatever I like. It's a free forum to write what u like same as it's free to ignore what u like. I still cannot for the life of me understand why the country all have to hit a L5. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

Nobody knows.

I'd imagine this is why the government haven't asked your advice.

Of course it's a free forum and absolutely it is your right to continously repeat yourself over and over rather than actively engage in the conversation.

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By *rmrs1234Couple
over a year ago

Waterford

so its a no to the thunderdome then

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

Nobody knows.

Maybe because there is a mentality among large sections of Joe Public that if your neighbour in the next county has something you don't have, namely a L3 instead of a L5 you'll want a bit of that so you'll expend a lot of effort bypassing guidelines and hop the fence and in doing so undo all the good work that particular county have done up to that point. "
they then shouldnt have introduced a 5 level plan saying it would be county by county. The one thing they said in the summer is the whole country wouldnt hit a full lockdown again even WHO recommended localised heavy lockdowns instead of countrywide ones.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

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By *oo32Man
over a year ago

tipperary

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

Nobody knows.

Maybe because there is a mentality among large sections of Joe Public that if your neighbour in the next county has something you don't have, namely a L3 instead of a L5 you'll want a bit of that so you'll expend a lot of effort bypassing guidelines and hop the fence and in doing so undo all the good work that particular county have done up to that point. they then shouldnt have introduced a 5 level plan saying it would be county by county. The one thing they said in the summer is the whole country wouldnt hit a full lockdown again even WHO recommended localised heavy lockdowns instead of countrywide ones. "

They also said wear masks social distance

Gave guidelines and people couldn't be arsed following them

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By *oft_sexy_sweetWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

Nobody knows.

You don't need to understand it. You just have to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"13"

I love fab. Just when I want to throw my phone at a wall and set myself on fire, the men of fab come to the rescue.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

Nobody knows.

You don't need to understand it. You just have to do it.

People not abiding by guidelines they don't agree with or understand is why we haven't beat this yet. We're not epidemiologists or scientists or doctors or economists so we're not gonna understand. We just have to do what we are told. It's truly very very simple to comprehend. Is it easy to do? No. Is it impossible? Far from it. "
that's the problem "you dont have to understand it, you just have to do it". You have counties doing exceptionally well and they're been put on the one level of counties doing exceptionally poor. Of course, it makes perfect sense...

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

Nobody knows.

Maybe because there is a mentality among large sections of Joe Public that if your neighbour in the next county has something you don't have, namely a L3 instead of a L5 you'll want a bit of that so you'll expend a lot of effort bypassing guidelines and hop the fence and in doing so undo all the good work that particular county have done up to that point. they then shouldnt have introduced a 5 level plan saying it would be county by county. The one thing they said in the summer is the whole country wouldnt hit a full lockdown again even WHO recommended localised heavy lockdowns instead of countrywide ones.

They also said wear masks social distance

Gave guidelines and people couldn't be arsed following them"
have people not grasped it by now? No matter what in life you're asked to do, everybody wont do the one thing. U surely didn't think every single person in Ireland were going to follow guidelines to a tee?

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By *oft_sexy_sweetWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

Nobody knows.

You don't need to understand it. You just have to do it.

People not abiding by guidelines they don't agree with or understand is why we haven't beat this yet. We're not epidemiologists or scientists or doctors or economists so we're not gonna understand. We just have to do what we are told. It's truly very very simple to comprehend. Is it easy to do? No. Is it impossible? Far from it. that's the problem "you dont have to understand it, you just have to do it". You have counties doing exceptionally well and they're been put on the one level of counties doing exceptionally poor. Of course, it makes perfect sense..."

It does make sense. Some suffer because others aren't complying. It's not fair, but it makes sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we should just build a wall around Leitrim and anyone who can't follow the simple guidelines should be sent there

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

Nobody knows.

You don't need to understand it. You just have to do it.

People not abiding by guidelines they don't agree with or understand is why we haven't beat this yet. We're not epidemiologists or scientists or doctors or economists so we're not gonna understand. We just have to do what we are told. It's truly very very simple to comprehend. Is it easy to do? No. Is it impossible? Far from it. that's the problem "you dont have to understand it, you just have to do it". You have counties doing exceptionally well and they're been put on the one level of counties doing exceptionally poor. Of course, it makes perfect sense...

It does make sense. Some suffer because others aren't complying. It's not fair, but it makes sense. "
if it makes sense, they would have said its what would happen. Not, we will put the counties in the most severe restriction where their incidence rate is appalling. Some might not realise it but some counties are doing incredibly well.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Engage thrusters.... 4

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No shit, Sherlock!!the question remains though, we get to a certain point with no progression on a vaccine, what happens then.

Nobody knows.

You don't need to understand it. You just have to do it.

People not abiding by guidelines they don't agree with or understand is why we haven't beat this yet. We're not epidemiologists or scientists or doctors or economists so we're not gonna understand. We just have to do what we are told. It's truly very very simple to comprehend. Is it easy to do? No. Is it impossible? Far from it. that's the problem "you dont have to understand it, you just have to do it". You have counties doing exceptionally well and they're been put on the one level of counties doing exceptionally poor. Of course, it makes perfect sense...

It does make sense. Some suffer because others aren't complying. It's not fair, but it makes sense. if it makes sense, they would have said its what would happen. Not, we will put the counties in the most severe restriction where their incidence rate is appalling. Some might not realise it but some counties are doing incredibly well. "

For that to work, you'd need roadblocks at every road crossing county borders.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How many posts left now?

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

How many before its locked

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By *rmrs1234Couple
over a year ago

Waterford

"How many posts left now? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dontbeasininejustadheretoguidelines

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

"so its a no to the thunderdome then "

I vote yes for that or at least to watch some in there. Socially diatance watchinh and wearing masks of course

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