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"Do you think it's necessary to use a vpn these days? Which one are you using and what's the cost? I just recently got one included with my antivirus but is it worth upgrading?" I never use a vpn and I download and watch the latest movies and tv shows on my laptop All the time but then again I'm using a Linux os.. Supposedly more private and safer from a hacking or virus perspective than windows anyday | |||
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"I work in Cyber. My advice is stay far away from VPN's no matter what your need for one is. The idea that your data is encrypted and safe is far from true. For example say a highly advertised VPN provider .. NordVPN You turn on the VPN, you traffic is encrypted to Nords server, decrypted to read the data, re-encrypted and forwarded on to site you wish to visit. That piece where it is decrypted is where the issue lies, at that point Nord can read all your data that you are sending. Messages,banking details,images or videos. I know most people use VPN's so they can watch content in other countries but if you forget to turn it off as you browse your normal daily things .. Facebook banking fab email messaging etc then Nord have the potential to read all your data and potentially steal your data. " Hey devor. Fabs is 'HTTPS' encrypted using an SSL certificate. Same with most reputable sites and definitely financial and ecommerce sites. So when I enter my login details on the fabs login page, the request (login data) is sent to the Fabs server and is encrypted using the SSL certificate. So from my laptop/phone across the internet 'cloud' to the Fabs server, a 'person in the middle' cannot decrypt the login data and read it. So if I leave my VPN on, and I send the same request to Fabs, when the request reaches the VPN server, the cannot decrypt and read it either (public/private key etc) The VPN service should add a 2nd layer of encryption, but they cannot decrypt the Fabs HTTPS request so it is still secure. Would that be correct? For non IT, a website is secure when you see the little padlock to the right of the search bar and the site name begins with 'https://' You should get into the habit of checking this as its extremely important. | |||
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"I work in Cyber. My advice is stay far away from VPN's no matter what your need for one is. The idea that your data is encrypted and safe is far from true. For example say a highly advertised VPN provider .. NordVPN You turn on the VPN, you traffic is encrypted to Nords server, decrypted to read the data, re-encrypted and forwarded on to site you wish to visit. That piece where it is decrypted is where the issue lies, at that point Nord can read all your data that you are sending. Messages,banking details,images or videos. I know most people use VPN's so they can watch content in other countries but if you forget to turn it off as you browse your normal daily things .. Facebook banking fab email messaging etc then Nord have the potential to read all your data and potentially steal your data. Hey devor. Fabs is 'HTTPS' encrypted using an SSL certificate. Same with most reputable sites and definitely financial and ecommerce sites. So when I enter my login details on the fabs login page, the request (login data) is sent to the Fabs server and is encrypted using the SSL certificate. So from my laptop/phone across the internet 'cloud' to the Fabs server, a 'person in the middle' cannot decrypt the login data and read it. So if I leave my VPN on, and I send the same request to Fabs, when the request reaches the VPN server, the cannot decrypt and read it either (public/private key etc) The VPN service should add a 2nd layer of encryption, but they cannot decrypt the Fabs HTTPS request so it is still secure. Would that be correct? For non IT, a website is secure when you see the little padlock to the right of the search bar and the site name begins with 'https://' You should get into the habit of checking this as its extremely important. " The vpn provider can see the sites visited, but not the data itself if its SSL encrypted. They still have quite a lot of metadata even if they done have the ACTUAL data. | |||
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"For example, this is the URL for this forum thread. You can see the 'https://' at the beginning. I simply copy/pasted this from the mobile site browser search bar on my phone browser: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/ireland/1077668" This is the misconception Ordinarily yes, the public private key is exchanged between you and Fab but by using a VPN you have set up an opportunity for a man in the middle. Once you connect to a VPN provider the key exchange is between you and their server(Nord). They have the key to decrypt. Their server the encrypts again originating from the geolocation IP to the site you wish to visit. | |||
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"For example, this is the URL for this forum thread. You can see the 'https://' at the beginning. I simply copy/pasted this from the mobile site browser search bar on my phone browser: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/ireland/1077668 This is the misconception Ordinarily yes, the public private key is exchanged between you and Fab but by using a VPN you have set up an opportunity for a man in the middle. Once you connect to a VPN provider the key exchange is between you and their server(Nord). They have the key to decrypt. Their server the encrypts again originating from the geolocation IP to the site you wish to visit. " So this is not good to say the least I don't use a VPN for anything. Looked into them but most got poor reviews. I would like to watch BBC (steady on ladies) so was looking for a Geo service. A mate recommended Getflix. Would you be aware of them and if they are decent? Or another service to look at geo restricted media players? | |||
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"For example, this is the URL for this forum thread. You can see the 'https://' at the beginning. I simply copy/pasted this from the mobile site browser search bar on my phone browser: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/ireland/1077668 This is the misconception Ordinarily yes, the public private key is exchanged between you and Fab but by using a VPN you have set up an opportunity for a man in the middle. Once you connect to a VPN provider the key exchange is between you and their server(Nord). They have the key to decrypt. Their server the encrypts again originating from the geolocation IP to the site you wish to visit. So this is not good to say the least I don't use a VPN for anything. Looked into them but most got poor reviews. I would like to watch BBC (steady on ladies) so was looking for a Geo service. A mate recommended Getflix. Would you be aware of them and if they are decent? Or another service to look at geo restricted media players?" Its just open to manipulation, we're trusting out security with 3rd parties Anything out there that offers a way to download content or access restricted content comes with risk. My stance is to stay far away from them | |||
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"For example, this is the URL for this forum thread. You can see the 'https://' at the beginning. I simply copy/pasted this from the mobile site browser search bar on my phone browser: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/ireland/1077668 This is the misconception Ordinarily yes, the public private key is exchanged between you and Fab but by using a VPN you have set up an opportunity for a man in the middle. Once you connect to a VPN provider the key exchange is between you and their server(Nord). They have the key to decrypt. Their server the encrypts again originating from the geolocation IP to the site you wish to visit. So this is not good to say the least I don't use a VPN for anything. Looked into them but most got poor reviews. I would like to watch BBC (steady on ladies) so was looking for a Geo service. A mate recommended Getflix. Would you be aware of them and if they are decent? Or another service to look at geo restricted media players? Its just open to manipulation, we're trusting out security with 3rd parties Anything out there that offers a way to download content or access restricted content comes with risk. My stance is to stay far away from them " Thanks for the sound advice | |||
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"Depends what you want. If you want american Netflix or the likes, use a VPN. If you are doing dodgy stuff on the interwebs, then your most secure bet is to instal Tails Linux on a USB drive and boot up from that. This OS will completely delete everything stored in your RAM etc when logging out and leave zero trace of your activity on your laptop once you log out of the session. Use the TOR browser which basically acts as 10 VPNs scrambled in one to hide your IP address and never saves passwords, internet history, cookies etc. Finally a Mac Spoofer to change the Mac address of your network card. And remember, the only sure way to wipe a hard drive, is to put a drill through it. " Thanks Gary. Nothing dodge. Just getting around geo restrictions would be good | |||
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