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"For the next few weeks: 1. Cut your daily contacts in half and you could be cutting the infection rates in half 2. Increase the number of times you wash your hands per day 3. Treat everyone as a potentially infected person by keeping distance. The virus spreads mostly at shorter distances 4. Always wear a mask in public and make sure you can wear it correctly to avoid accidently infecting yourself through incorrect wearing It's not fun but we need to protect the elderly and vunerable population and if that is putting potential fun on hold during this time then it's the right thing to do " and what if there’s never a vaccine? WHO admitted as much yesterday | |||
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"and what if there’s never a vaccine? WHO admitted as much yesterday " Life is all about weighing up daily risks. We are only 6 months into a global pandemic so i think it is not such a big ask on people to restrict themselves over the next few months. There is huge momentium globally in the race to secure a vaccine so i don't share the view there will never be a vaccine. To answer your question though, if we are into early next year and still no sign of a vaccine we will obviously need to adapt our lives to try have the right balance of risk and enjoyment. For now, as someone with vunerable family members, i think it is the right thing to do | |||
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"and what if there’s never a vaccine? WHO admitted as much yesterday Life is all about weighing up daily risks. We are only 6 months into a global pandemic so i think it is not such a big ask on people to restrict themselves over the next few months. There is huge momentium globally in the race to secure a vaccine so i don't share the view there will never be a vaccine. To answer your question though, if we are into early next year and still no sign of a vaccine we will obviously need to adapt our lives to try have the right balance of risk and enjoyment. For now, as someone with vunerable family members, i think it is the right thing to do " I think 6 months is enough for most people at this stage a different strategy is required. And yes I agree with you about vulnerable people but alas that situation doesnt effect a huge amount of the population. | |||
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" And yes I agree with you about vulnerable people but alas that situation doesnt effect a huge amount of the population. " About 13% of the population is 65+ A large portion of the remaining 87% are related to that 13% in some way. I think the majority of the population would be impacted in some way if the older or vunerable people contract and die of C19. | |||
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"and what if there’s never a vaccine? WHO admitted as much yesterday Life is all about weighing up daily risks. We are only 6 months into a global pandemic so i think it is not such a big ask on people to restrict themselves over the next few months. There is huge momentium globally in the race to secure a vaccine so i don't share the view there will never be a vaccine. To answer your question though, if we are into early next year and still no sign of a vaccine we will obviously need to adapt our lives to try have the right balance of risk and enjoyment. For now, as someone with vunerable family members, i think it is the right thing to do I think 6 months is enough for most people at this stage a different strategy is required. And yes I agree with you about vulnerable people but alas that situation doesnt effect a huge amount of the population. " There isn't much of an alternative though, is there? It's all about keeping the health system somehow functioning and with mismanagement, underinvestment and privatisation over decades we don't have a very strong one. Besides the group of vulnerable is quite substantial if you take not only the elderly into account but also those with underlying conditions. | |||
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"There isn't much of an alternative though, is there? It's all about keeping the health system somehow functioning and with mismanagement, underinvestment and privatisation over decades we don't have a very strong one. Besides the group of vulnerable is quite substantial if you take not only the elderly into account but also those with underlying conditions. " This exactly | |||
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"The scary thing is, one of Mr's work colleagues has tested positive for it but he has zero symptoms and said he is not in anyway feeling sick. How many other's are walking around asymptomatic and unknowingly spreading it." Probably about 200 thousand at this stage. The entire staff of a well known restaurant in Donegal tested positive for it and only one had minor symptoms. It was the same with the meat factories. The majority of people are not getting sick with it. | |||
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"and what if there’s never a vaccine? WHO admitted as much yesterday Life is all about weighing up daily risks. We are only 6 months into a global pandemic so i think it is not such a big ask on people to restrict themselves over the next few months. There is huge momentium globally in the race to secure a vaccine so i don't share the view there will never be a vaccine. To answer your question though, if we are into early next year and still no sign of a vaccine we will obviously need to adapt our lives to try have the right balance of risk and enjoyment. For now, as someone with vunerable family members, i think it is the right thing to do I think 6 months is enough for most people at this stage a different strategy is required. And yes I agree with you about vulnerable people but alas that situation doesnt effect a huge amount of the population. There isn't much of an alternative though, is there? It's all about keeping the health system somehow functioning and with mismanagement, underinvestment and privatisation over decades we don't have a very strong one. Besides the group of vulnerable is quite substantial if you take not only the elderly into account but also those with underlying conditions. " Lockdowns do not work, numbers will go down with restrictions. Restrictions get relaxed numbers go up. | |||
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"The scary thing is, one of Mr's work colleagues has tested positive for it but he has zero symptoms and said he is not in anyway feeling sick. How many other's are walking around asymptomatic and unknowingly spreading it. Probably about 200 thousand at this stage. " Testing positivity rate is still @ 2% of the 80,000 tested last week so its very unlikely the numbers are anyehere near 200,000 | |||
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"Lockdowns do not work, numbers will go down with restrictions. Restrictions get relaxed numbers go up. " Lockdowns or restrctions reduce the flow of transmission and the exponetial growth that can be seen when the R number goes above 1.6. As above, our healthcare system can't handle that number of addmissions so ICU wont be able to cope and you soon will be making decisions on who gets preference of treatment based on age etc.. It may be a slight yoyo effect of restrictions and then opening up again but if it keeps some capacity in the healthcare system its worth doing IMO | |||
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"Lockdowns do not work, numbers will go down with restrictions. Restrictions get relaxed numbers go up. Lockdowns or restrctions reduce the flow of transmission and the exponetial growth that can be seen when the R number goes above 1.6. As above, our healthcare system can't handle that number of addmissions so ICU wont be able to cope and you soon will be making decisions on who gets preference of treatment based on age etc.. It may be a slight yoyo effect of restrictions and then opening up again but if it keeps some capacity in the healthcare system its worth doing IMO " Ssshhh your talking sense. People don't like that | |||
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"Cop on that life as we knew it pre March is not possible until a vaccine/treatment/burn-out is possible. " I don't think burn out will happen. A lot of the actual experts are saying it won't burn out like other viruses have before | |||
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"The scary thing is, one of Mr's work colleagues has tested positive for it but he has zero symptoms and said he is not in anyway feeling sick. How many other's are walking around asymptomatic and unknowingly spreading it. Probably about 200 thousand at this stage. Testing positivity rate is still @ 2% of the 80,000 tested last week so its very unlikely the numbers are anyehere near 200,000 " 200,000 probably had it. I didnt mean currently. All evidence currently is suggesting 90% are asymptomatic. So theres a huge percent that havent even realized they have it. | |||
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"Lockdowns do not work, numbers will go down with restrictions. Restrictions get relaxed numbers go up. Lockdowns or restrctions reduce the flow of transmission and the exponetial growth that can be seen when the R number goes above 1.6. As above, our healthcare system can't handle that number of addmissions so ICU wont be able to cope and you soon will be making decisions on who gets preference of treatment based on age etc.. It may be a slight yoyo effect of restrictions and then opening up again but if it keeps some capacity in the healthcare system its worth doing IMO " The man speaks sense. | |||
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" Lockdowns do not work, numbers will go down with restrictions. Restrictions get relaxed numbers go up. " The lockdown has worked, it eventually got the situation somehow under control rather than getting out of hand. Now it's about maintaining and I hope and believe we won't go back into a another lockdown - that would be rather detrimental - if we all do our responsible bit. However as others said it will be an up and down with restrictions. | |||
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"200,000 probably had it. I didnt mean currently. All evidence currently is suggesting 90% are asymptomatic. So theres a huge percent that havent even realized they have it." HSE have completed over 1 million tests at this stage and the positivity rate have been anywhere between 0.5% - 2% the last few months. No doubt there are asymptomatic cases but seriously doubting the numbers suggested.. | |||
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