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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So this morning I was just thinking back to a friends qoute from his father "never trust a man that doesn't drink qoute " and thought of a few more completely baffling Irish traits (atleast I feel they're Irish).

Theres the trait of Irish people refusing to tell you what they earn.

Then theres Irish people who buy a car or piece of furniture etc...for a good price but when asked say it was alot more or people that have come into money and let people know but let on it's a lot less.

Why are we like this?

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

These things arent particularly Irish and would be said in half serious ways in other countries too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So this morning I was just thinking back to a friends qoute from his father "never trust a man that doesn't drink qoute " and thought of a few more completely baffling Irish traits (atleast I feel they're Irish).

Theres the trait of Irish people refusing to tell you what they earn.

Then theres Irish people who buy a car or piece of furniture etc...for a good price but when asked say it was alot more or people that have come into money and let people know but let on it's a lot less.

Why are we like this? "

Talk of earnings, income, wealth etc was always seen as crass and to a large extent it really isn't anyone else's business.

So I would think it's a combination of people trying to keep their private lives private while at the same time presenting the outward image of keeping up with the Jones' (or O'Malleys depending which end of the country)

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Talking or asking about earnings is considered bad form pretty much universally.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So this morning I was just thinking back to a friends qoute from his father "never trust a man that doesn't drink qoute " and thought of a few more completely baffling Irish traits (atleast I feel they're Irish).

Theres the trait of Irish people refusing to tell you what they earn.

Then theres Irish people who buy a car or piece of furniture etc...for a good price but when asked say it was alot more or people that have come into money and let people know but let on it's a lot less.

Why are we like this?

Talk of earnings, income, wealth etc was always seen as crass and to a large extent it really isn't anyone else's business.

So I would think it's a combination of people trying to keep their private lives private while at the same time presenting the outward image of keeping up with the Jones' (or O'Malleys depending which end of the country)

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Tbf I'm talking about even people I work with who do the same job ,they wont talk about the money per hour or even bonuses that we all get more or less the same. We all know we're far from rich and just get by ,I find it weird but agree it's their own business

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I trust people MORE that don't drink, or don't drink much. I drink at most once a month, unless I'm away on holidays then it's most days, ha

People that don't drink much I think have more sense and decency in them. I mean I known I don't whether I was tee total or an alcoholic I still don't have much sense haha but I always get that feeling from people that don't.

A friend of mine doesn't drink at all and he's 100% one of those guys that will do anything for anyone and no one says a bad word about him. Me, I don't need to know what people say about me, I know I'm a cunt! Haha

With regards about not telling people what they earn, I have no problem telling my friends or family but if someone that isn't in that bracket asked me I wouldn't tell them.

I think that's soemthing quite personal and none of their business and anyone that asked that isn't someone I would end up being friends with after that.

Don't think any of my friends have asked me how much I earn, they have more sense, haha but I'm sure I've probably told them myself without be prompted, when there's a discussion about jobs and such.

Family I know have asked but they're concerned that I'm making enough to look after myself

With regards to the other stuff, I haven't had much experience with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So this morning I was just thinking back to a friends qoute from his father "never trust a man that doesn't drink qoute " and thought of a few more completely baffling Irish traits (atleast I feel they're Irish).

Theres the trait of Irish people refusing to tell you what they earn.

Then theres Irish people who buy a car or piece of furniture etc...for a good price but when asked say it was alot more or people that have come into money and let people know but let on it's a lot less.

Why are we like this? "
Earn 96759€ last thing I bought that I think was a bargain was a tv €470. Anyone got more questions??

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By *eaAndBenCouple
over a year ago

Dublin

I was brought up to believe discussing money or what someone earns is bad manners. Saying that, if people were more open about it the wage gap mightn’t be as bad as it is! I don’t know know what the men doing the equivalent of my job earn!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was brought up to believe discussing money or what someone earns is bad manners. Saying that, if people were more open about it the wage gap mightn’t be as bad as it is! I don’t know know what the men doing the equivalent of my job earn! "

My job has published payscales and everyone with the same length of time done and at the same level gets the same irrelevant of gender. Overtime is generally either optional or whoever is in at the time again regardless of gender. But likely because I'm a fella I had never thought of this. If open discussion helps right the gender pay gap disparity I'm all for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm happy with my salary, it's nobody else's business, and I, in turn, couldn't care less what others are earning, it's a contract between a person and their employer.

Part of the reason for secrecy in this country is the petty jealousy and begrudgery of anyone perceived as doing better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was brought up to believe discussing money or what someone earns is bad manners. Saying that, if people were more open about it the wage gap mightn’t be as bad as it is! I don’t know know what the men doing the equivalent of my job earn! "

IMO, the wage gap is less about employers being discriminatory and more about women still being expected to bear the bulk of the burden of care for children and elderly relatives.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"I'm happy with my salary, it's nobody else's business, and I, in turn, couldn't care less what others are earning, it's a contract between a person and their employer.

Part of the reason for secrecy in this country is the petty jealousy and begrudgery of anyone perceived as doing better. "

This. Pay is a relationship between an employee and an employer. It's noone else's business. Don't like your pay then ask for more or move and do something somewhere else. Get overpaid? Awesome. Don't be an asshole and brag. Simples.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm happy with my salary, it's nobody else's business, and I, in turn, couldn't care less what others are earning, it's a contract between a person and their employer.

Part of the reason for secrecy in this country is the petty jealousy and begrudgery of anyone perceived as doing better.

This. Pay is a relationship between an employee and an employer. It's noone else's business. Don't like your pay then ask for more or move and do something somewhere else. Get overpaid? Awesome. Don't be an asshole and brag. Simples. "

Exactly

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

To be honest most conversations about Money are no one elses business

There's people that borrow money just to keep up with the neighbours and once you start that nonsense you're on a slippery slope

Having said that you do get a certain amount of begrudgery in Ireland when someone does well ....sometimes it's like they need to be knocked down a peg or two for making a hell of a lot of money ....

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By *razy-88Man
over a year ago

belfast

Always think “let people think they have a pound more than you and you’ll be fine”

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere


"I was brought up to believe discussing money or what someone earns is bad manners. Saying that, if people were more open about it the wage gap mightn’t be as bad as it is! I don’t know know what the men doing the equivalent of my job earn!

IMO, the wage gap is less about employers being discriminatory and more about women still being expected to bear the bulk of the burden of care for children and elderly relatives."

No experience of the elderly relatives yet but agree with you on the childcare

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Being discreet about your earnings isn't a particularly Irish trait at all. It's exactly the same in my home country and my best guess in almost every European country.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple
over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"Being discreet about your earnings isn't a particularly Irish trait at all. It's exactly the same in my home country and my best guess in almost every European country. "

It's the same in the entire western world as far as I know.

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By *unkerbobMan
over a year ago

belfast

Am I missing the point ere??are you all prostitutes here or some form of sex workers???whats the big discussion about wages doing on a swinging/sex site??the mind boggles!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Am I missing the point ere??are you all prostitutes here or some form of sex workers???whats the big discussion about wages doing on a swinging/sex site??the mind boggles!!!!"

Cos the Irish forum is more like our lounge rather than a week wants to meet forum.

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By *unkerbobMan
over a year ago

belfast

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere


"Am I missing the point ere??are you all prostitutes here or some form of sex workers???whats the big discussion about wages doing on a swinging/sex site??the mind boggles!!!!"

You'd have to be Irish to understand Bob

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down


"I'm happy with my salary, it's nobody else's business, and I, in turn, couldn't care less what others are earning, it's a contract between a person and their employer.

Part of the reason for secrecy in this country is the petty jealousy and begrudgery of anyone perceived as doing better.

This. Pay is a relationship between an employee and an employer. It's noone else's business. Don't like your pay then ask for more or move and do something somewhere else. Get overpaid? Awesome. Don't be an asshole and brag. Simples. "

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