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"Not ashamed of being white. Wasn't something I chose before birth. Might be disgusted by the actions of people but I find that it is perpetrated by many different colours of skin, against many other colours of skin. Inhumanity to.fellow humans is classless, reprehensible and unexcusable. At the same time, rioting and killing is not the way to react." All to their own I guess but learning as you grow up that the cause of chaos caused through history are by white people and still still carrying on today 2020 I'm sorry but being white is nothing to be proud about | |||
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"Not ashamed of being white. Wasn't something I chose before birth. Might be disgusted by the actions of people but I find that it is perpetrated by many different colours of skin, against many other colours of skin. Inhumanity to.fellow humans is classless, reprehensible and unexcusable. At the same time, rioting and killing is not the way to react." Just to add a little something what if you was black seeing them images with George knowing what has happened through the years imagine how they are feeling I don't blame them for the way they have reacted tbh no we don't choose what colour we are born into but doesn't change the fact of what's going on | |||
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"It's an absolute disgrace how this man met his fate I swear I'm ashamed of being white are we not human beings in the end would i fuck judge someone for the color of their skin I'm all for the protests where the fuck is love huh what's your thoughts? " By saying you're ashamed to be white is judging all white people. there for you're judging people by the colour of their skin. What happened, and is still happening in America and all over the world is disgusting. Race plays a part as does poverty. It shouldn't happen but it does happen. it's happened with the Irish who are white, it's happened with the Native American people. The African, The Indigenous people of Australia, to countless others throughout the ages. Greed, Power, bigotry. It needs to end. but violence begetting violence is not the way. I don't know what is the way, but more violence is not the answer. Our Future generations need to learn to change. But its up to us to help lead this change. Too many people have already died because of Race or Religious percussion. We all need to change. We are all people of earth. We should not be judged by the colour of our skin but by our actions. If we don't bring about change each generation will keep making the same mistakes again and again. The hate needs to end. I'm not ashamed to be white. I didn't choose my race. I am ashamed of the actions of people, of the Hate. By the hate that is fuel to the fires that will pass down from this generation to the next. By the So called leaders of our Society. pushing the division between us. Trump for one has ignited the fires of hate in America since he took office, and still does so to this day. We don't get to choose our race, but we do get to choose who we become as people. do we grow to hate, and pass that on? Or do we help heal the damage caused by generations past? | |||
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"It's an absolute disgrace how this man met his fate I swear I'm ashamed of being white are we not human beings in the end would i fuck judge someone for the color of their skin I'm all for the protests where the fuck is love huh what's your thoughts? By saying you're ashamed to be white is judging all white people. there for you're judging people by the colour of their skin. What happened, and is still happening in America and all over the world is disgusting. Race plays a part as does poverty. It shouldn't happen but it does happen. it's happened with the Irish who are white, it's happened with the Native American people. The African, The Indigenous people of Australia, to countless others throughout the ages. Greed, Power, bigotry. It needs to end. but violence begetting violence is not the way. I don't know what is the way, but more violence is not the answer. Our Future generations need to learn to change. But its up to us to help lead this change. Too many people have already died because of Race or Religious percussion. We all need to change. We are all people of earth. We should not be judged by the colour of our skin but by our actions. If we don't bring about change each generation will keep making the same mistakes again and again. The hate needs to end. I'm not ashamed to be white. I didn't choose my race. I am ashamed of the actions of people, of the Hate. By the hate that is fuel to the fires that will pass down from this generation to the next. By the So called leaders of our Society. pushing the division between us. Trump for one has ignited the fires of hate in America since he took office, and still does so to this day. We don't get to choose our race, but we do get to choose who we become as people. do we grow to hate, and pass that on? Or do we help heal the damage caused by generations past? " | |||
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"It's an absolute disgrace how this man met his fate I swear I'm ashamed of being white are we not human beings in the end would i fuck judge someone for the color of their skin I'm all for the protests where the fuck is love huh what's your thoughts? " Nice ragegasm as 3am in the morning.. Is that the wine talking | |||
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"America is a pit of dispair... It has worst racism, healthcare, education system, gun violence etc of any country in the developed world. Land of the Free me arse. " And some, if not most actually believe they're living in the greatest country in the world USA! USA! We're #1! | |||
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"America is a pit of dispair... It has worst racism, healthcare, education system, gun violence etc of any country in the developed world. Land of the Free me arse. " It went downhill since the Reagan era and has now reached another sad peak. | |||
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"America is a pit of dispair... It has worst racism, healthcare, education system, gun violence etc of any country in the developed world. Land of the Free me arse. " It's an appalling place | |||
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"It's an absolute disgrace how this man met his fate I swear I'm ashamed of being white are we not human beings in the end would i fuck judge someone for the color of their skin I'm all for the protests where the fuck is love huh what's your thoughts? " | |||
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"America is a pit of dispair... It has worst racism, healthcare, education system, gun violence etc of any country in the developed world. Land of the Free me arse. It's an appalling place" It's not a bad country.. I'd pick America to live in over South Sudan or Eritrea do you get me? All countries have problems.. | |||
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"America is a pit of dispair... It has worst racism, healthcare, education system, gun violence etc of any country in the developed world. Land of the Free me arse. It's an appalling place It's not a bad country.. I'd pick America to live in over South Sudan or Eritrea do you get me? All countries have problems.. " Yes they do, we have problems here too, but neither Ireland nor those countries are claiming some kind of world leadership status. | |||
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"America is a pit of dispair... It has worst racism, healthcare, education system, gun violence etc of any country in the developed world. Land of the Free me arse. It went downhill since the Reagan era and has now reached another sad peak. " I think the only time it would have been a great place was between the dinosaurs and being discovered by columbus... we dont want to upset him by telling him the vikings got there 1st lol | |||
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"In a devoleped country of 300 odd million people you will have a % of nutjobs.. Racism will always be part of humanity.. Where you have difference you will have adversity.. " The nutjobs aren't always running the place | |||
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"It's an absolute disgrace how this man met his fate I swear I'm ashamed of being white are we not human beings in the end would i fuck judge someone for the color of their skin I'm all for the protests where the fuck is love huh what's your thoughts? Nice ragegasm as 3am in the morning.. Is that the wine talking " Wine talking? Ragegasm? Why because I'm speaking my mind I'm very much sober I've asked others on their thoughts of the situation not someone like you acting the gimp | |||
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"Of course there is good in everyone in every race the same way there is bad just the things white people have done through history it's just something that can't be forgotten no the rioting and violence isn't the answer but I guess to them nothing is gunna change and never gunna be listened to there is only so much people can take " But every race has committed these acts through the years, it’s a human trait not a race one. | |||
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"Of course there is good in everyone in every race the same way there is bad just the things white people have done through history it's just something that can't be forgotten no the rioting and violence isn't the answer but I guess to them nothing is gunna change and never gunna be listened to there is only so much people can take But every race has committed these acts through the years, it’s a human trait not a race one. " Therein lies the problem I remember reading about a zoo in America that had a sign saying most dangerous animal on the planet this way, a path led to a large mirror. | |||
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"Not ashamed of being white. Wasn't something I chose before birth. Might be disgusted by the actions of people but I find that it is perpetrated by many different colours of skin, against many other colours of skin. Inhumanity to.fellow humans is classless, reprehensible and unexcusable. At the same time, rioting and killing is not the way to react. All to their own I guess but learning as you grow up that the cause of chaos caused through history are by white people and still still carrying on today 2020 I'm sorry but being white is nothing to be proud about " Someone needs a history lesson. | |||
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"All to their own I guess but learning as you grow up that the cause of chaos caused through history are by white people and still still carrying on today 2020 I'm sorry but being white is nothing to be proud about " Hmm, interesting to know that on a planet with different regions and different peoples it's only the white people that have ever caused atrocities to happen. I suppose there were no genocides in central Africa, there was never oppression of the Chinese by the Japanese. Or that the Khamir Rouge is just fictional? C'mon man, you can't honestly say that white people are the cause of all the bad shit throughout history. | |||
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"What happened to FG was an absolute disgrace and an abomination but just addressing the rioting I think it was just waiting to explode The death of Floyd sparked the fury that was just simmering under the surface The massive inequality both socially and financially in the country, then Covid with people being laid off with no safety net and then a callous murder of an unarmed black civilian made people just explode The looting and chaos is like some type of catharsis I think as it makes no sense for people to destroy their own neighbourhoods I will say though there clearly is systemic racism that the African Americans suffer under compared to their white counterparts Not that poor whites, Latinos etc have it easy Imagine growing up where people you grandparents knew may have been lynched, murdered etc in the 60s with little to no repercussions in many cases Not that things haven't improved but growing up in communities were this was your past then seeing so many black men being killed by police with a chaos baiting fuckwit as President no wonder mayhem ensued Feeling your outside the system looking in etc It's all fucked up" Is this why this case has blown up such a racial issue? I just see it as a cuffed thief was murdered by a policeman. At the end of the day, he was still an alleged criminal, regardless of his race. . This case seems to remind me of the London rioting in 2011. That started after an alleged (black)criminal was shot dead by police too. | |||
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"What happened to FG was an absolute disgrace and an abomination but just addressing the rioting I think it was just waiting to explode The death of Floyd sparked the fury that was just simmering under the surface The massive inequality both socially and financially in the country, then Covid with people being laid off with no safety net and then a callous murder of an unarmed black civilian made people just explode The looting and chaos is like some type of catharsis I think as it makes no sense for people to destroy their own neighbourhoods I will say though there clearly is systemic racism that the African Americans suffer under compared to their white counterparts Not that poor whites, Latinos etc have it easy Imagine growing up where people you grandparents knew may have been lynched, murdered etc in the 60s with little to no repercussions in many cases Not that things haven't improved but growing up in communities were this was your past then seeing so many black men being killed by police with a chaos baiting fuckwit as President no wonder mayhem ensued Feeling your outside the system looking in etc It's all fucked up Is this why this case has blown up such a racial issue? I just see it as a cuffed thief was murdered by a policeman. At the end of the day, he was still an alleged criminal, regardless of his race. . This case seems to remind me of the London rioting in 2011. That started after an alleged (black)criminal was shot dead by police too." It's a racial issue man because a mental amount of black men (some women too) have been killed by trigger happy or vindictive police who's actions seem pretty racist no? I'll give the African American community the benefit of the doubt in that they say there are ongoing issues like this that have a disproportionate effect on their communities Obviously if a white guy was killed in the same way it wouldn't be seen as a racist incident But the guy was black. Black communities see subjugation or at least unfair treatment by the police as typical so when this happens like many other deaths its bound to spill over | |||
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" At the same time, rioting and killing is not the way to react." It's called revolution, and without revolution you cannot have change. It's sad, but unfortunately violence is sometimes the only option. Do you think Ireland would be independent without violence? Do you think the north would have a power sharing government without violence? I mean the peaceful civil rights marches were attacked at every opportunity, do you think that would have worked eventually? People also seem to have no problem when its state "legal violence" such as wars and occupation, or the ott violence when arresting somebody, why is that violence okay? It's not. What's happening in the US at the moment is a rebellion, a revolution, not "a riot" as the media likes to describe it as, and the reason they use that word is because it immediately demonizises these protesters, these human beings seeking a better society for all like they deserve. Yes there is looting, by a small percentage of opportunists, again a big focus by media, but they dont show the tens of thousands of peaceful marchers because that is not going to get views. So please stop falling for their agenda. Where would the world be today without revolution? | |||
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"I knew this thread would be here, I knew exactly what would be said on it, and yet I'm still disappointed to see it. People on this site are so edgy and anti establishment when it comes to their own lives but when it doesn't affect them they defend the status quo to the last. If you think a building, a store, or a business is more important than the right to life, and right to freedom, of oppressed people.. I don't have the words for how sick that makes me. There is no way in which black people have protested that has ever been ok for white supremacy. Martin Luther King was a pacifist, he was murdered. Colin Kapernick led the ultimate in peaceful protests and was ripped to shreds by the media. Nothing changes and nobody listens when revolutionaries ask nicely, as Irish people we know this. Our country was established by violent uprising. This is no different. Stop treating this as a fun thought experiment, stop playing devil's advocate, stop "debating" and moralising about the losses of multi billion dollar corporations and simply listen to what is being asked of you by people whose lives are in danger. Park your ego and listen. " Great post and well said it's infuriating to see the media and many other people focussing on the small number of looter's rather than the number of peaceful protests taking place across America. This clip say's it all imo, if someone is more offended by looting than the murder of an innocent unarmed man there is truly something wrong with them. https://youtu.be/3enEMUyWZk8 | |||
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"I knew this thread would be here, I knew exactly what would be said on it, and yet I'm still disappointed to see it. People on this site are so edgy and anti establishment when it comes to their own lives but when it doesn't affect them they defend the status quo to the last. If you think a building, a store, or a business is more important than the right to life, and right to freedom, of oppressed people.. I don't have the words for how sick that makes me. There is no way in which black people have protested that has ever been ok for white supremacy. Martin Luther King was a pacifist, he was murdered. Colin Kapernick led the ultimate in peaceful protests and was ripped to shreds by the media. Nothing changes and nobody listens when revolutionaries ask nicely, as Irish people we know this. Our country was established by violent uprising. This is no different. Stop treating this as a fun thought experiment, stop playing devil's advocate, stop "debating" and moralising about the losses of multi billion dollar corporations and simply listen to what is being asked of you by people whose lives are in danger. Park your ego and listen. " Never a truer word spoken | |||
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"I knew this thread would be here, I knew exactly what would be said on it, and yet I'm still disappointed to see it. People on this site are so edgy and anti establishment when it comes to their own lives but when it doesn't affect them they defend the status quo to the last. If you think a building, a store, or a business is more important than the right to life, and right to freedom, of oppressed people.. I don't have the words for how sick that makes me. There is no way in which black people have protested that has ever been ok for white supremacy. Martin Luther King was a pacifist, he was murdered. Colin Kapernick led the ultimate in peaceful protests and was ripped to shreds by the media. Nothing changes and nobody listens when revolutionaries ask nicely, as Irish people we know this. Our country was established by violent uprising. This is no different. Stop treating this as a fun thought experiment, stop playing devil's advocate, stop "debating" and moralising about the losses of multi billion dollar corporations and simply listen to what is being asked of you by people whose lives are in danger. Park your ego and listen. " This right here. Saves me from writing it all out myself. | |||
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"What happened to FG was an absolute disgrace and an abomination but just addressing the rioting I think it was just waiting to explode The death of Floyd sparked the fury that was just simmering under the surface The massive inequality both socially and financially in the country, then Covid with people being laid off with no safety net and then a callous murder of an unarmed black civilian made people just explode The looting and chaos is like some type of catharsis I think as it makes no sense for people to destroy their own neighbourhoods I will say though there clearly is systemic racism that the African Americans suffer under compared to their white counterparts Not that poor whites, Latinos etc have it easy Imagine growing up where people you grandparents knew may have been lynched, murdered etc in the 60s with little to no repercussions in many cases Not that things haven't improved but growing up in communities were this was your past then seeing so many black men being killed by police with a chaos baiting fuckwit as President no wonder mayhem ensued Feeling your outside the system looking in etc It's all fucked up Is this why this case has blown up such a racial issue? I just see it as a cuffed thief was murdered by a policeman. At the end of the day, he was still an alleged criminal, regardless of his race. . This case seems to remind me of the London rioting in 2011. That started after an alleged (black)criminal was shot dead by police too. It's a racial issue man because a mental amount of black men (some women too) have been killed by trigger happy or vindictive police who's actions seem pretty racist no? I'll give the African American community the benefit of the doubt in that they say there are ongoing issues like this that have a disproportionate effect on their communities Obviously if a white guy was killed in the same way it wouldn't be seen as a racist incident But the guy was black. Black communities see subjugation or at least unfair treatment by the police as typical so when this happens like many other deaths its bound to spill over" more white people are killed by police every year in the states than Black people. | |||
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"more white people are killed by police every year in the states than Black people. " You're comparing absolute figures, set those in context with the percentage of white respectively black people in the US population. Then you get a complete different picture, a scary one. | |||
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"more white people are killed by police every year in the states than Black people. You're comparing absolute figures, set those in context with the percentage of white respectively black people in the US population. Then you get a complete different picture, a scary one. " It's been like this since slavery has been abolished.. The war on drugs was actually a war on black people.. African Americans are over represented in the prison system | |||
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"It's atrocious what's happening. There's protests next Saturday at the spire and the US embassy. " Yeah and all the news is covering is mainly the so called rioting and not the main point of the protest is about its easy to say oh but its happening everywhere but doesn't mean it makes it right | |||
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"more white people are killed by police every year in the states than Black people. You're comparing absolute figures, set those in context with the percentage of white respectively black people in the US population. Then you get a complete different picture, a scary one. " Yes I am stating the number of actual deaths not the percentage. But if you wish to delve further and compare the number of deaths where the deceased was brandishing a weapon or engaging in a violent act rather than "innocent bystanders" then the figure changes dramatically. Of course some cases warrant disgust and protest but its an injustice to think that all are killed innocently. | |||
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"Speaking as a person who happens to be black NOT on behalf of anyone but myself.....I'm struck by how angry I still am a week after George Floyd was murdered. I never have and never will have the desire for any person to feel guilty for the actions of others. However when I hear people focusing more on condemning the riots and the frustrations that they stem from I feel my blood boiling. I judge a person by the extent to which they focus their attention on the riots and not the words of the peaceful demonstrators. My judgement of that person is based on how quickly their attention is focused on the reckless rioters, how quickly they pass judgement and how quickly they forget how this all started. My judgement of that person is based on how dismissive they are of peoples expressions of pain and to what extent they are defensive of the status quo. My judgement is based on how open that person is to replace ignorance with knowledge. The list of black people who have died at the hands of police in America is a long one that spans decades. The difference now is that its now occasionally captured on camera. My judgement is based on whether or not it takes a ten minute live murder before that person ever so grudgingly accepts the teeny weeny possibility that blacks in the US are systematically treated unfairly by the state. Dialogue not guilt Action not inaction " | |||
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"Well done to all the protesters that showed up in Dublin today and didn’t give a shit about social distancing or that we are in a pandemic. We might aswell open up everything tomorrow and pretend the virus never existed. " In about 2 to 3 weeks when their is a spike in covid deaths , we know who to blame...aparently black lives matter..but your grannies doesnt ... | |||
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"Well done to all the protesters that showed up in Dublin today and didn’t give a shit about social distancing or that we are in a pandemic. We might aswell open up everything tomorrow and pretend the virus never existed. " In fairness,I don't think the protesters were the only ones ignoring social distancing over the weekend (and plenty ignoring it before now, including my garda neighbour) | |||
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"Well done to all the protesters that showed up in Dublin today and didn’t give a shit about social distancing or that we are in a pandemic. We might aswell open up everything tomorrow and pretend the virus never existed. In fairness,I don't think the protesters were the only ones ignoring social distancing over the weekend (and plenty ignoring it before now, including my garda neighbour)" And including the taoiseach last week. Bit of sunbathing in the park and a few cans with the lads be graaaaaaand shur. Do as I say not as I do | |||
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"Well done to all the protesters that showed up in Dublin today and didn’t give a shit about social distancing or that we are in a pandemic. We might aswell open up everything tomorrow and pretend the virus never existed. In fairness,I don't think the protesters were the only ones ignoring social distancing over the weekend (and plenty ignoring it before now, including my garda neighbour) And including the taoiseach last week. Bit of sunbathing in the park and a few cans with the lads be graaaaaaand shur. Do as I say not as I do" I'm not aware Leo was breaking any rules in meeting a couple of friends outdoors within 5 km of where he's living right now | |||
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"Well done to all the protesters that showed up in Dublin today and didn’t give a shit about social distancing or that we are in a pandemic. We might aswell open up everything tomorrow and pretend the virus never existed. In fairness,I don't think the protesters were the only ones ignoring social distancing over the weekend (and plenty ignoring it before now, including my garda neighbour) And including the taoiseach last week. Bit of sunbathing in the park and a few cans with the lads be graaaaaaand shur. Do as I say not as I do I'm not aware Leo was breaking any rules in meeting a couple of friends outdoors within 5 km of where he's living right now" The house that he moved into in the middle of all this u mean? Not the house he ACTUALLY lives in. I was pretty sure he said do your exercise and go home. Dont be hanging around. Not meeting your mates in the park for a few cans and a picnic. He is meant to be the leader of the country. Be a good idea to lead by example no? | |||
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"Well done to all the protesters that showed up in Dublin today and didn’t give a shit about social distancing or that we are in a pandemic. We might aswell open up everything tomorrow and pretend the virus never existed. In fairness,I don't think the protesters were the only ones ignoring social distancing over the weekend (and plenty ignoring it before now, including my garda neighbour) And including the taoiseach last week. Bit of sunbathing in the park and a few cans with the lads be graaaaaaand shur. Do as I say not as I do I'm not aware Leo was breaking any rules in meeting a couple of friends outdoors within 5 km of where he's living right now The house that he moved into in the middle of all this u mean? Not the house he ACTUALLY lives in. I was pretty sure he said do your exercise and go home. Dont be hanging around. Not meeting your mates in the park for a few cans and a picnic. He is meant to be the leader of the country. Be a good idea to lead by example no?" Of what relevance is it that he is staying somewhere else apart from his usual residence during lockdown? So long as you stay there it's not an issue. Also, the rules were relaxed on May 18th to allow a meeting of up to four people from different households outdoors. This utter non-event happened on May 24th. | |||
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"Well done to all the protesters that showed up in Dublin today and didn’t give a shit about social distancing or that we are in a pandemic. We might aswell open up everything tomorrow and pretend the virus never existed. In fairness,I don't think the protesters were the only ones ignoring social distancing over the weekend (and plenty ignoring it before now, including my garda neighbour) And including the taoiseach last week. Bit of sunbathing in the park and a few cans with the lads be graaaaaaand shur. Do as I say not as I do I'm not aware Leo was breaking any rules in meeting a couple of friends outdoors within 5 km of where he's living right now The house that he moved into in the middle of all this u mean? Not the house he ACTUALLY lives in. I was pretty sure he said do your exercise and go home. Dont be hanging around. Not meeting your mates in the park for a few cans and a picnic. He is meant to be the leader of the country. Be a good idea to lead by example no? Of what relevance is it that he is staying somewhere else apart from his usual residence during lockdown? So long as you stay there it's not an issue. Also, the rules were relaxed on May 18th to allow a meeting of up to four people from different households outdoors. This utter non-event happened on May 24th. " On the 18th of May when he changed the travel restrictions from 2 to 5km Leo said "this doesn't mean you should sit around in parks having picnics. The park is for exercise only. Get there. Dont hang around and get back home as soon as possible. If you are lucky enough to have your own garden stay there". Even in normal times, top of in the park having cans with the lads isn't very statesmanlike. But in the middle of a pandemic when u are preaching health and safety guidelines. Can look for all the loopholes he wants to say he wasn't breaking any rules but he shouldn't have done it. | |||
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"Well done to all the protesters that showed up in Dublin today and didn’t give a shit about social distancing or that we are in a pandemic. We might aswell open up everything tomorrow and pretend the virus never existed. In about 2 to 3 weeks when their is a spike in covid deaths , we know who to blame...aparently black lives matter..but your grannies doesnt ..." I think it's great that so many turned up and protested peacefully against racism and police brutality despite covid-19. We don't have to tolerate injustice and there's such thing as freedom of speech even during a pandemic. There was protests in different countries against covid-19 restrictions, not one reported a peak of cases after demonstrations. The corona scaremongering worked a bit to well on some people.... | |||
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"Well done to all the protesters that showed up in Dublin today and didn’t give a shit about social distancing or that we are in a pandemic. We might aswell open up everything tomorrow and pretend the virus never existed. In fairness,I don't think the protesters were the only ones ignoring social distancing over the weekend (and plenty ignoring it before now, including my garda neighbour) And including the taoiseach last week. Bit of sunbathing in the park and a few cans with the lads be graaaaaaand shur. Do as I say not as I do I'm not aware Leo was breaking any rules in meeting a couple of friends outdoors within 5 km of where he's living right now The house that he moved into in the middle of all this u mean? Not the house he ACTUALLY lives in. I was pretty sure he said do your exercise and go home. Dont be hanging around. Not meeting your mates in the park for a few cans and a picnic. He is meant to be the leader of the country. Be a good idea to lead by example no? Of what relevance is it that he is staying somewhere else apart from his usual residence during lockdown? So long as you stay there it's not an issue. Also, the rules were relaxed on May 18th to allow a meeting of up to four people from different households outdoors. This utter non-event happened on May 24th. On the 18th of May when he changed the travel restrictions from 2 to 5km Leo said "this doesn't mean you should sit around in parks having picnics. The park is for exercise only. Get there. Dont hang around and get back home as soon as possible. If you are lucky enough to have your own garden stay there". Even in normal times, top of in the park having cans with the lads isn't very statesmanlike. But in the middle of a pandemic when u are preaching health and safety guidelines. Can look for all the loopholes he wants to say he wasn't breaking any rules but he shouldn't have done it. " In fact, it was not the Taoiseach himself who said this, and when asked to clarify, the person concerned said "we are asking people to use common sense". I dont see any issue with what the Taoiseach did and frankly, he's as entitled as any other member of the population to take off his shirt and relax on his day off. | |||
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"It's an absolute disgrace how this man met his fate I swear I'm ashamed of being white are we not human beings in the end would i fuck judge someone for the color of their skin I'm all for the protests where the fuck is love huh what's your thoughts? " OK but what have you done? Have you protested? Have you donated to anti-racism organizations? Have you educated yourself on the dozens of other poc who've died in America this year as a direct result of police brutality and racism? Have you brought this topic up at the dinner table with family members who you know won't want to talk about it? The time for online virtue signalling has been and gone. If you don't match your posts with real action, it's empty, shallow and shameful. | |||
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"Not ashamed of being white. Wasn't something I chose before birth. Might be disgusted by the actions of people but I find that it is perpetrated by many different colours of skin, against many other colours of skin. Inhumanity to.fellow humans is classless, reprehensible and unexcusable. At the same time, rioting and killing is not the way to react." Very disappointing. | |||
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"I'm not ashamed of being white as others have said it's circumstances of birth.Tarring all whites with the same brush is just as bad in my opinion. What happened is horrific and disgusting and needs to dealt with. But the rioting and looting and destruction is no better either and is no better it's the act of thugs. If you seriously think it's been done because of what happened I think you mistaken. It's been used as an excuse by many who are doing it. " Sorry? Are you saying that looting and murder are equal? | |||
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"Well done to all the protesters that showed up in Dublin today and didn’t give a shit about social distancing or that we are in a pandemic. We might aswell open up everything tomorrow and pretend the virus never existed. In about 2 to 3 weeks when their is a spike in covid deaths , we know who to blame...aparently black lives matter..but your grannies doesnt ..." Apparently all lives matter except for when Republicans protest during covid-19, then the weak must be sacrificed for the economy... and because they cant get a haircut.. In the context of what has happened and continues to happen to black people in America. I support the protest. At least they have a significant reason to be out there showing solidarity unlike the thousands out in the park and at the beaches... who aren't wearing any masks btw, unlike most of the protestors... but you'll never hear a conservative pipe up until a liberal does exactly what they do, even if its for a significant cause. | |||
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"Anyone see the video of the two cops arresting a black lad because he 'fit the description' and it turns out he works for the FBI? Can't be sure if it's staged or not but it looks pretty convincing and it's so sweet to see the pigs recoil as they realized they fucked up big time. Here's the link if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLhoR7kegkg" I saw that alright, they weren’t giving up easily either. Convinced they had their man. | |||
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"Did anyone see the george Floyd porno.. Its habibshow.. Quick Google search will find it.. He must have had heart trouble cause he couldn't keep his dick hard " Wow, talk about distasteful and ignorant. | |||
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"Did anyone see the george Floyd porno.. Its habibshow.. Quick Google search will find it.. He must have had heart trouble cause he couldn't keep his dick hard Wow, talk about distasteful and ignorant." What do you expect from a pig but a grunt?! | |||
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"Did anyone see the george Floyd porno.. Its habibshow.. Quick Google search will find it.. He must have had heart trouble cause he couldn't keep his dick hard Wow, talk about distasteful and ignorant." First time Ive ever agreed with you. The only video to care about is the one where he was murdered. | |||
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"Did anyone see the george Floyd porno.. Its habibshow.. Quick Google search will find it.. He must have had heart trouble cause he couldn't keep his dick hard Wow, talk about distasteful and ignorant. First time Ive ever agreed with you. The only video to care about is the one where he was murdered. " Well you have to take a break from being wrong all the time at some point. | |||
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"Did anyone see the george Floyd porno.. Its habibshow.. Quick Google search will find it.. He must have had heart trouble cause he couldn't keep his dick hard Wow, talk about distasteful and ignorant. First time Ive ever agreed with you. The only video to care about is the one where he was murdered. Well you have to take a break from being wrong all the time at some point. " | |||
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"Did anyone see the george Floyd porno.. Its habibshow.. Quick Google search will find it.. He must have had heart trouble cause he couldn't keep his dick hard " What the fuck does that have to do with him being murdered you fucking cretin | |||
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"What happened to FG was an absolute disgrace and an abomination but just addressing the rioting I think it was just waiting to explode The death of Floyd sparked the fury that was just simmering under the surface The massive inequality both socially and financially in the country, then Covid with people being laid off with no safety net and then a callous murder of an unarmed black civilian made people just explode The looting and chaos is like some type of catharsis I think as it makes no sense for people to destroy their own neighbourhoods I will say though there clearly is systemic racism that the African Americans suffer under compared to their white counterparts Not that poor whites, Latinos etc have it easy Imagine growing up where people you grandparents knew may have been lynched, murdered etc in the 60s with little to no repercussions in many cases Not that things haven't improved but growing up in communities were this was your past then seeing so many black men being killed by police with a chaos baiting fuckwit as President no wonder mayhem ensued Feeling your outside the system looking in etc It's all fucked up Is this why this case has blown up such a racial issue? I just see it as a cuffed thief was murdered by a policeman. At the end of the day, he was still an alleged criminal, regardless of his race. . This case seems to remind me of the London rioting in 2011. That started after an alleged (black)criminal was shot dead by police too. It's a racial issue man because a mental amount of black men (some women too) have been killed by trigger happy or vindictive police who's actions seem pretty racist no? I'll give the African American community the benefit of the doubt in that they say there are ongoing issues like this that have a disproportionate effect on their communities Obviously if a white guy was killed in the same way it wouldn't be seen as a racist incident But the guy was black. Black communities see subjugation or at least unfair treatment by the police as typical so when this happens like many other deaths its bound to spill over more white people are killed by police every year in the states than Black people. " There's a lot more white people living in the U.S Deaths per million Of U.S police shootings. Black 30 Hispanic 22 White 12 Other 3 Source washington post May 28 2020 | |||
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"It's an absolute disgrace how this man met his fate I swear I'm ashamed of being white are we not human beings in the end would i fuck judge someone for the color of their skin I'm all for the protests where the fuck is love huh what's your thoughts? By saying you're ashamed to be white is judging all white people. there for you're judging people by the colour of their skin. What happened, and is still happening in America and all over the world is disgusting. Race plays a part as does poverty. It shouldn't happen but it does happen. it's happened with the Irish who are white, it's happened with the Native American people. The African, The Indigenous people of Australia, to countless others throughout the ages. Greed, Power, bigotry. It needs to end. but violence begetting violence is not the way. I don't know what is the way, but more violence is not the answer. Our Future generations need to learn to change. But its up to us to help lead this change. Too many people have already died because of Race or Religious percussion. We all need to change. We are all people of earth. We should not be judged by the colour of our skin but by our actions. If we don't bring about change each generation will keep making the same mistakes again and again. The hate needs to end. I'm not ashamed to be white. I didn't choose my race. I am ashamed of the actions of people, of the Hate. By the hate that is fuel to the fires that will pass down from this generation to the next. By the So called leaders of our Society. pushing the division between us. Trump for one has ignited the fires of hate in America since he took office, and still does so to this day. We don't get to choose our race, but we do get to choose who we become as people. do we grow to hate, and pass that on? Or do we help heal the damage caused by generations past? " | |||
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"Was that him really got sent the video just taught it was another WhatsApp thing " Yea that was him big dude too 6'6 in height | |||
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"Got to say he didn't deserve to die the way he did but for a man that was willing to put a gun to a pregnant women's belly while he robbed her won't be getting any sympathy from me black,white or made of cheese I don't care. life long violent criminal and the media is portraying him as a saint " What about the rest of the unjust murders of black people in america. | |||
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"Got to say he didn't deserve to die the way he did but for a man that was willing to put a gun to a pregnant women's belly while he robbed her won't be getting any sympathy from me black,white or made of cheese I don't care. life long violent criminal and the media is portraying him as a saint What about the rest of the unjust murders of black people in america. " That's not what this thread is about it's about George floyd. You need to look for the unjust murders of black people in America thread. | |||
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"That poor lad in cork stabbed by that black gang..scumbags and they videod it...and posted blatent racist comments on their social media...funny how there will be very little about that in the media..." Yeah that was a horrible, awful incident BUT its not really funny in the way you mean it (Blacks making out that they deserve special treatment, sure this lad was white and nothing...) As unfortunately people get stabbed all the time - white on white, black on black, black on white and so on However we all should know that stabbings don't get too much media attention unless someone dies Is this right? Perhaps a discussion for another thread However FG was slowly murdered by the hands of a police officer over a minor incident, the Police being the arm of the state that deals with 'Law and Order', historically another murder of an unarmed black man by the police The incident has sparked the biggest, global reaction to police brutality towards minorities and POC in ever really (ie newsworthy) So to say something to the extent that its funny we won't hear about the incident in Cork like its somewhat comparable to whats going on in America and elsewhere if 'ducking' moronic But since you're probably a whiney little puss that can only slip out little not quite obvious racist comments i'll throw you a bone before you start commenting more veiled shite And say that white people, blue collar etc are often the subjects of systemic oppression too But like I said on another thread maybe we should give these communities the benefit of the doubt You'd think us (the majority on here being Irish) could sympathise with our history of being on the wrong end of colonialism | |||
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"That poor lad in cork stabbed by that black gang..scumbags and they videod it...and posted blatent racist comments on their social media...funny how there will be very little about that in the media... Yeah that was a horrible, awful incident BUT its not really funny in the way you mean it (Blacks making out that they deserve special treatment, sure this lad was white and nothing...) As unfortunately people get stabbed all the time - white on white, black on black, black on white and so on However we all should know that stabbings don't get too much media attention unless someone dies Is this right? Perhaps a discussion for another thread However FG was slowly murdered by the hands of a police officer over a minor incident, the Police being the arm of the state that deals with 'Law and Order', historically another murder of an unarmed black man by the police The incident has sparked the biggest, global reaction to police brutality towards minorities and POC in ever really (ie newsworthy) So to say something to the extent that its funny we won't hear about the incident in Cork like its somewhat comparable to whats going on in America and elsewhere if 'ducking' moronic But since you're probably a whiney little puss that can only slip out little not quite obvious racist comments i'll throw you a bone before you start commenting more veiled shite And say that white people, blue collar etc are often the subjects of systemic oppression too But like I said on another thread maybe we should give these communities the benefit of the doubt You'd think us (the majority on here being Irish) could sympathise with our history of being on the wrong end of colonialism " Well said! The riots in the US arent because someone was murdered.. people get murdered all the time. It's because the police are free to murder who they want and get away with it. It takes a heavy dose of racism not to be able to see the difference. | |||
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