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"went on facebook this morning and my wall was flooded with boycott keelings posts. Theyre getting dragged in their statement post yesterday. a lot of people are very very pissed off No wonder either. Its disgraceful. " theyll pay for it in the pocket for their decision. overpriced anyway. i always wait for the wexford strawberries. yum yum | |||
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"Can't understand why they don't use Irish workers while observing social distancing? Probably have to pay them a decent wage...Keelings always prided themselves on being a family business...very disappointed with how they've dealt with this" They know that the Bulgarians who are brought over will work longer hours and put up with poor working conditionsthat the Irish workforce wouldnt tolerate. There will be other companies doing the same in this industry. | |||
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"Can't understand why they don't use Irish workers while observing social distancing? Probably have to pay them a decent wage...Keelings always prided themselves on being a family business...very disappointed with how they've dealt with thisThey know that the Bulgarians who are brought over will work longer hours and put up with poor working conditionsthat the Irish workforce wouldnt tolerate. There will be other companies doing the same in this industry. " Horticultural experts excuse me hahaha | |||
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"What have they done?" only what’s below posted by a Ryan Air worker and you should see the video of them coming through Dublin airport I work for Ryanair, we had a charter flight yesterday out from Dublin to Sofia (Bulgaria), the flight was chartered by and paid for by Keelings in St. Margarets, Co. Dublin. The flight flew out from Dublin empty and came back in with a full compliment of passengers, 189 in total. There was no social distancing on board, putting all the cabin crew at risk, there was also 200 bags in the hold of the aircraft putting the ground handling agents at risk. All passengers on board were holding letters from Keelings stating that they were coming to start work picking strawberries for them. As a member of staff still working at Dublin Airport, I find this quite unsettling for myself and all my work colleagues as it’s putting us at risk and extra stress which we should not have to deal with it during this time of Covid-19, I alone have a wife and kids at home and an elderly mother that I can pass on C-19 to without knowing, same as most of my other work colleagues. None of these passengers have/are getting medical clearance, plus they won’t be self quarantining for the next 14 days, they’ll be heading straight to work. I don’t know how interested you are in knowing this but I just wanted to highlight it to you as it just shows the likes of Ryanair and Keelings are only worried about money and not staff health and safety, this was not an essential journey for any of these passengers. I don’t mind if you bring this to peoples attention but I ask if you could keep me anonymous, if you do bring it to anyones attention. We have a clause in our contract that we be disciplined upto and including dismissal for sharing stuff on social media or to the news companies. The flight number was FR6015 SOF - DUB, full 189 passengers on board and the aircraft that operated the flight was EI-EVP, flight date 13/04/20 and arrival time 15:05. On Facebook | |||
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"In fairness to keelings they advertise these jobs every year and nobody wants them even now The people that come over live on the farm,earn minimum wage for all hours worked and go back home after the season having saved as much as they can Its also a family thing from Bulgaria andvthey travel across europe doing the same thing every year. The other side of the equation is that people want 2 boxes of strawberries for a fiver " Now is not the time to travel let alone putting people’s life at risk for some strawberries ffs | |||
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"In fairness to keelings they advertise these jobs every year and nobody wants them even now The people that come over live on the farm,earn minimum wage for all hours worked and go back home after the season having saved as much as they can Its also a family thing from Bulgaria andvthey travel across europe doing the same thing every year. The other side of the equation is that people want 2 boxes of strawberries for a fiver " Thats not the point . They were all on the one flight no social distancing . Putting Ryanair staff at risk . And airport staff and people who bought them to the farm . Using facilities in the airport toilets . All we hear now is practice social distancing 2m apart from each other and this is allowed to happen | |||
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"In fairness to keelings they advertise these jobs every year and nobody wants them even now The people that come over live on the farm,earn minimum wage for all hours worked and go back home after the season having saved as much as they can Its also a family thing from Bulgaria andvthey travel across europe doing the same thing every year. The other side of the equation is that people want 2 boxes of strawberries for a fiver Thats not the point . They were all on the one flight no social distancing . Putting Ryanair staff at risk . And airport staff and people who bought them to the farm . Using facilities in the airport toilets . All we hear now is practice social distancing 2m apart from each other and this is allowed to happen " Seen the guards have put up on their site they didn't break any regulations which definitely isn't true.. | |||
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"The job has been advertised since before March though,Irish people don't want to do it. I seen alot of they are taking our job comment's on social media today which is not true. The only issue is that they were allowed into the Country during lockdown and that they are not being quarantined for 14 day's." Have to agree, Irish people don't want the jobs. It's exactly the same situation in the UK but to let people into the country without quarantine is ridiculous. | |||
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"Wow I am so pissed off with that wreck less stunt Keelings pulled, well done to that Ryan Air worked for making it known " I doubt covid 19 is a big problem in Bulgaria where these workers are from and they will keep to themselves when they get to their accommodation.. Don't see what the what the outrage is all about.. They have more chance of catching said virus here than in their home place.. Its rampant in Dublin anyway they are essential workers.. Alternative is to let the crop spoil and no produce for us the customer to eat.. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face | |||
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"Wow I am so pissed off with that wreck less stunt Keelings pulled, well done to that Ryan Air worked for making it known I doubt covid 19 is a big problem in Bulgaria where these workers are from and they will keep to themselves when they get to their accommodation.. Don't see what the what the outrage is all about.. They have more chance of catching said virus here than in their home place.. Its rampant in Dublin anyway they are essential workers.. Alternative is to let the crop spoil and no produce for us the customer to eat.. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face " bullshit as most here will agree | |||
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"Wow I am so pissed off with that wreck less stunt Keelings pulled, well done to that Ryan Air worked for making it known I doubt covid 19 is a big problem in Bulgaria where these workers are from and they will keep to themselves when they get to their accommodation.. Don't see what the what the outrage is all about.. They have more chance of catching said virus here than in their home place.. Its rampant in Dublin anyway they are essential workers.. Alternative is to let the crop spoil and no produce for us the customer to eat.. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face " If you can't see where the outrage lies in this, you're naive..Keelings have made a major balls of this and there isn't even a thought of sending these people back..Simon Coveneys influence is strong. I'd rather see the strawberries rot than one single person go down due to this...a life is far more important than a punnet of soft fruit. | |||
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"Wow I am so pissed off with that wreck less stunt Keelings pulled, well done to that Ryan Air worked for making it known I doubt covid 19 is a big problem in Bulgaria where these workers are from and they will keep to themselves when they get to their accommodation.. Don't see what the what the outrage is all about.. They have more chance of catching said virus here than in their home place.. Its rampant in Dublin anyway they are essential workers.. Alternative is to let the crop spoil and no produce for us the customer to eat.. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face bullshit as most here will agree" How is it bullshit? Amazing how some people have no common sense whatsoever just want to blame "foreigners" as the source of this disease when it's here already.. Are you paying attention to the news at all.. Fear does strange things to people they all close ranks. First port of call is discrimination against "foreigners".. Will you pick the fruit then if they send them back? Not like that will happen as they are essential workers in farming.. We all need to eat | |||
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"Cosmic . Do you fancy going up and doing a bit of work with them .on minimum wage.. and maybe spend the night in the over crowded cabin accommodation with them trying to stay 2meters away . I don't blame them I blame the greedy keeling brothers " Keeling brothers are not greedy they provide many people with fresh fruit and veg.. We all need to eat | |||
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"Wow I am so pissed off with that wreck less stunt Keelings pulled, well done to that Ryan Air worked for making it known I doubt covid 19 is a big problem in Bulgaria where these workers are from and they will keep to themselves when they get to their accommodation.. Don't see what the what the outrage is all about.. They have more chance of catching said virus here than in their home place.. Its rampant in Dublin anyway they are essential workers.. Alternative is to let the crop spoil and no produce for us the customer to eat.. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face If you can't see where the outrage lies in this, you're naive..Keelings have made a major balls of this and there isn't even a thought of sending these people back..Simon Coveneys influence is strong. I'd rather see the strawberries rot than one single person go down due to this...a life is far more important than a punnet of soft fruit. " Well I don't fancy dying of scurvy we all need vitamin C which strawberries have in abundance and that's how we can strengthen our immune systems so we can fight off covid 19 | |||
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"Wow I am so pissed off with that wreck less stunt Keelings pulled, well done to that Ryan Air worked for making it known I doubt covid 19 is a big problem in Bulgaria where these workers are from and they will keep to themselves when they get to their accommodation.. Don't see what the what the outrage is all about.. They have more chance of catching said virus here than in their home place.. Its rampant in Dublin anyway they are essential workers.. Alternative is to let the crop spoil and no produce for us the customer to eat.. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face If you can't see where the outrage lies in this, you're naive..Keelings have made a major balls of this and there isn't even a thought of sending these people back..Simon Coveneys influence is strong. I'd rather see the strawberries rot than one single person go down due to this...a life is far more important than a punnet of soft fruit. Well I don't fancy dying of scurvy we all need vitamin C which strawberries have in abundance and that's how we can strengthen our immune systems so we can fight off covid 19" Doubt scurvy is too high up the list of priorities right now..yellow peppers and thyme can provide you with Vitamin C along with oranges..none of which we depend on Keelings for. | |||
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"Maybe if they played Irish workers a decent wage they would have plenty of people to do the work Yes greedy " The cheaper the labour the cheaper the product.. Would you pay a tenner for a small punnet of strawberries picked by "Irish" people on 15 an hour? Nobody would buy it.. Price is too high as it is.. Minimum wage to pick strawberries is a good deal its not heavy work.. There are no losers here.. The migrant workers get our minimum wage which is equivalent to at least 4 times the minimum wage in their own country.. They come work hard then go home when the season is finished and they've made a lot of money to bring home for their families.. We the consumer then enjoy cheap prices for fruit and veg.. Nobody loses.. Farming labourers are essential workers no matter where they come from | |||
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"Maybe if they played Irish workers a decent wage they would have plenty of people to do the work Yes greedy " So by that logic you are happy to pay 10-15 euro a punnet then? Greed works both ways | |||
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"They are the dearest of fruit in supermarkets im glad today my mother said Get me blueburries in the weekly shopping i went to aldi To get blueberries Big tub of it She text said its actually nicer than keelings. " So aldi are cheaper for blueberries?? Where were they picked? Who picked them? How much were they paid ? How long did they have to work that day? Once we don't know it's all grand So were does all our other fresh fruit & veg come from? All these seasonal workers have been coming to Ireland for years to pick fruit & veg not just in keelings but around the country. Who knew that lettuce didnt grow in the bag We are pissed at the thought of having to bring in cheap labour to ensure we have food on our tables during this crisis. Keelings advertised the jobs and only received about 40 applications from Ireland. Why go work for less than 350euro when you can get it for sitting indoors watching tv or sunbathing in the garden?? If crops of fruit & veg go to waste around the country because of lack of labour, how much to you expect to pay for it when this pandemic is over? | |||
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"What have they done? only what’s below posted by a Ryan Air worker and you should see the video of them coming through Dublin airport I work for Ryanair, we had a charter flight yesterday out from Dublin to Sofia (Bulgaria), the flight was chartered by and paid for by Keelings in St. Margarets, Co. Dublin. The flight flew out from Dublin empty and came back in with a full compliment of passengers, 189 in total. There was no social distancing on board, putting all the cabin crew at risk, there was also 200 bags in the hold of the aircraft putting the ground handling agents at risk. All passengers on board were holding letters from Keelings stating that they were coming to start work picking strawberries for them. As a member of staff still working at Dublin Airport, I find this quite unsettling for myself and all my work colleagues as it’s putting us at risk and extra stress which we should not have to deal with it during this time of Covid-19, I alone have a wife and kids at home and an elderly mother that I can pass on C-19 to without knowing, same as most of my other work colleagues. None of these passengers have/are getting medical clearance, plus they won’t be self quarantining for the next 14 days, they’ll be heading straight to work. I don’t know how interested you are in knowing this but I just wanted to highlight it to you as it just shows the likes of Ryanair and Keelings are only worried about money and not staff health and safety, this was not an essential journey for any of these passengers. I don’t mind if you bring this to peoples attention but I ask if you could keep me anonymous, if you do bring it to anyones attention. We have a clause in our contract that we be disciplined upto and including dismissal for sharing stuff on social media or to the news companies. The flight number was FR6015 SOF - DUB, full 189 passengers on board and the aircraft that operated the flight was EI-EVP, flight date 13/04/20 and arrival time 15:05. On Facebook" And do you think only Keelings done it? German farmers paid for the charter to bring workers from Romania. In Spain situation is the same. Secondly, if there is no workforce in the country, then they have to find it in others. Business id business, there is no sentiments. Just sayin'! | |||
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"Never ever buy their foods again in our household " What about potatoes, onions, tomatoes, apples, scallions, broccoli, cabbage, brussel sprouts, carrots, 50 shades of lettuces & and whatever other fresh produce that's produced in Ireland? | |||
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"In fairness to keelings they advertise these jobs every year and nobody wants them even now The people that come over live on the farm,earn minimum wage for all hours worked and go back home after the season having saved as much as they can Its also a family thing from Bulgaria andvthey travel across europe doing the same thing every year. The other side of the equation is that people want 2 boxes of strawberries for a fiver " True. Same situation is in other European countries almost every year as far as I know: Spain, Germany, Italy, France. People live in bubble world and wont take the low pay jobs, so there might be immigrants who have very bad situation in own countries and became seasonal workers on the farms, etc Business is business. There is no place for the sentiments. People want eat cheap but quality food Its impossible to deliver it without cutting the costs | |||
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"It’s about safety ffs can you not see that , who gives a shit if keelings lose their empire, it’s about the greater good ????? One company or a nation ??" You want to eat fresh, good quality and cheap veggies and fruits. How do you think does it work? No one cares once the business owners have profits. This is the reality vs utopia | |||
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"It’s about safety ffs can you not see that , who gives a shit if keelings lose their empire, it’s about the greater good ????? One company or a nation ??" It's not all about Keelings.As a country we depend on agricultural seasonal workers. According to reports this evening they were given the appropriate health checks. So its perfectly ok to buy cheaper fruiting local supermarkets, once its picked abroad, in other countries by eastern European seasonal workers? The bottom line in all this is that our whole agricultural business in Ireland could be wiped out, if we can't bring in these people to harvest crops of fruit & veg. Thousands more people unemployed & food could become even more expensive to buy. | |||
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"They are the dearest of fruit in supermarkets im glad today my mother said Get me blueburries in the weekly shopping i went to aldi To get blueberries Big tub of it She text said its actually nicer than keelings. So aldi are cheaper for blueberries?? Where were they picked? Who picked them? How much were they paid ? How long did they have to work that day? Once we don't know it's all grand So were does all our other fresh fruit & veg come from? All these seasonal workers have been coming to Ireland for years to pick fruit & veg not just in keelings but around the country. Who knew that lettuce didnt grow in the bag We are pissed at the thought of having to bring in cheap labour to ensure we have food on our tables during this crisis. Keelings advertised the jobs and only received about 40 applications from Ireland. Why go work for less than 350euro when you can get it for sitting indoors watching tv or sunbathing in the garden?? If crops of fruit & veg go to waste around the country because of lack of labour, how much to you expect to pay for it when this pandemic is over?" Alidis producers pay your average fruit picker at least the minimum wage my hole | |||
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"Lightbulb moment! All the kids are off school/ college. Why can't they be sent to pick the fruit and veg? They get what they consider unbelievable pocket money. They keep exercised and we get all the fruit and veg in shops. Plus parents get the standard 50% of any money coming into house as part of the bill paying. I've just sorted the whole agri business of Ireland! You're welcome Loyalties and gratuities received with kindness. Promises of future shenanigans in gratitude ignored " Because their all to busy playing the playstation | |||
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"Lightbulb moment! All the kids are off school/ college. Why can't they be sent to pick the fruit and veg? They get what they consider unbelievable pocket money. They keep exercised and we get all the fruit and veg in shops. Plus parents get the standard 50% of any money coming into house as part of the bill paying. I've just sorted the whole agri business of Ireland! You're welcome Loyalties and gratuities received with kindness. Promises of future shenanigans in gratitude ignored " Johnny, that's the problem here: no one even thought about it Nor in Germany, France or Italy... | |||
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"Lightbulb moment! All the kids are off school/ college. Why can't they be sent to pick the fruit and veg? They get what they consider unbelievable pocket money. They keep exercised and we get all the fruit and veg in shops. Plus parents get the standard 50% of any money coming into house as part of the bill paying. I've just sorted the whole agri business of Ireland! You're welcome Loyalties and gratuities received with kindness. Promises of future shenanigans in gratitude ignored Because their all to busy playing the playstation" Or messing around read: devastating other people gardens | |||
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"Lightbulb moment! All the kids are off school/ college. Why can't they be sent to pick the fruit and veg? They get what they consider unbelievable pocket money. They keep exercised and we get all the fruit and veg in shops. Plus parents get the standard 50% of any money coming into house as part of the bill paying. I've just sorted the whole agri business of Ireland! You're welcome Loyalties and gratuities received with kindness. Promises of future shenanigans in gratitude ignored Because their all to busy playing the playstation" If we can't pay the electricity or broadband bill, their Playstation will be gathering dust in the corner. They can play after fruit picking when they come home in the evening. Is there a person here over 30 who doesn't remember spending days outside in summer picking spuds/strawberries/ blueberries/ turnips/whatever in the fields, when they were young? Obviously not asking the city dwellers, though they may have spent time in gardens/allotments and can relate, or the under 30's but farming today is a little different to 30yrs ago. Point is, for country folk, it was great when school holidays happened, because it meant you had extra, young, enthusiastic and energetic hands to help. My kids are bored off their tits. Imagine the life lessons that this time could present if they were able to work, social distance apart, on the farms! Comraderie, education, understanding of the circle of life in relation to the food on your table/fridge, general health, etc. It's a feckin genius idea! Now I do hope that someone reading this is in a position to suggest it in the halls of power | |||
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"What have they done? only what’s below posted by a Ryan Air worker and you should see the video of them coming through Dublin airport I work for Ryanair, we had a charter flight yesterday out from Dublin to Sofia (Bulgaria), the flight was chartered by and paid for by Keelings in St. Margarets, Co. Dublin. The flight flew out from Dublin empty and came back in with a full compliment of passengers, 189 in total. There was no social distancing on board, putting all the cabin crew at risk, there was also 200 bags in the hold of the aircraft putting the ground handling agents at risk. All passengers on board were holding letters from Keelings stating that they were coming to start work picking strawberries for them. As a member of staff still working at Dublin Airport, I find this quite unsettling for myself and all my work colleagues as it’s putting us at risk and extra stress which we should not have to deal with it during this time of Covid-19, I alone have a wife and kids at home and an elderly mother that I can pass on C-19 to without knowing, same as most of my other work colleagues. None of these passengers have/are getting medical clearance, plus they won’t be self quarantining for the next 14 days, they’ll be heading straight to work. I don’t know how interested you are in knowing this but I just wanted to highlight it to you as it just shows the likes of Ryanair and Keelings are only worried about money and not staff health and safety, this was not an essential journey for any of these passengers. I don’t mind if you bring this to peoples attention but I ask if you could keep me anonymous, if you do bring it to anyones attention. We have a clause in our contract that we be disciplined upto and including dismissal for sharing stuff on social media or to the news companies. The flight number was FR6015 SOF - DUB, full 189 passengers on board and the aircraft that operated the flight was EI-EVP, flight date 13/04/20 and arrival time 15:05. What does anyone expect keeling family very good contributors to Leo and Micheal in election campaigns On Facebook" | |||
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"I always buy Keelings and will continue to do so as I support Irish companies like Keelings and the 1,700 people they employ in Ireland. That's not a typo, 1,700. Unlike a lot of contributors on this thread I know a bit about Keelings and they are a thoroughly decent family company. They are now looking after their migrant workers (many of whom come here year after year for the harvest season) who are in QUARANTINE for 14 days, even after having a medical in Sofia before coming here and being temperature checked before getting on the plane. THIS HAPPENS EVER YEAR. The fruit is ripening.....should they let it rot? They got 40 applicants in Ireland " I'm inclined to agree with you, this is a load of hysteria. There have been people flying in here on planes every single fucking day since we suddenly became coronavirus aware, none of them are screened. Tbh this smacks of Trump style racism against migrant workers coming in to do work we think we're too good for. The food industry in this country has for the last couple of decades been held up by the immigrant population and migrant workers. We expect cheap food, the resulting shit wages don't attract the Irish who know they are better off on welfare. | |||
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"I always buy Keelings and will continue to do so as I support Irish companies like Keelings and the 1,700 people they employ in Ireland. That's not a typo, 1,700. Unlike a lot of contributors on this thread I know a bit about Keelings and they are a thoroughly decent family company. They are now looking after their migrant workers (many of whom come here year after year for the harvest season) who are in QUARANTINE for 14 days, even after having a medical in Sofia before coming here and being temperature checked before getting on the plane. THIS HAPPENS EVER YEAR. The fruit is ripening.....should they let it rot? They got 40 applicants in Ireland I'm inclined to agree with you, this is a load of hysteria. There have been people flying in here on planes every single fucking day since we suddenly became coronavirus aware, none of them are screened. Tbh this smacks of Trump style racism against migrant workers coming in to do work we think we're too good for. The food industry in this country has for the last couple of decades been held up by the immigrant population and migrant workers. We expect cheap food, the resulting shit wages don't attract the Irish who know they are better off on welfare. " Just because people have been flying and sailing in and out of this country doesn't mean it's right. All the ports and airports with the exception of the vital stuff we require, shoukd have been shut down. No point in all of us going through this when the points of entrance to the country are like a leaking tap | |||
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"I always buy Keelings and will continue to do so as I support Irish companies like Keelings and the 1,700 people they employ in Ireland. That's not a typo, 1,700. Unlike a lot of contributors on this thread I know a bit about Keelings and they are a thoroughly decent family company. They are now looking after their migrant workers (many of whom come here year after year for the harvest season) who are in QUARANTINE for 14 days, even after having a medical in Sofia before coming here and being temperature checked before getting on the plane. THIS HAPPENS EVER YEAR. The fruit is ripening.....should they let it rot? They got 40 applicants in Ireland I'm inclined to agree with you, this is a load of hysteria. There have been people flying in here on planes every single fucking day since we suddenly became coronavirus aware, none of them are screened. Tbh this smacks of Trump style racism against migrant workers coming in to do work we think we're too good for. The food industry in this country has for the last couple of decades been held up by the immigrant population and migrant workers. We expect cheap food, the resulting shit wages don't attract the Irish who know they are better off on welfare. Just because people have been flying and sailing in and out of this country doesn't mean it's right. All the ports and airports with the exception of the vital stuff we require, shoukd have been shut down. No point in all of us going through this when the points of entrance to the country are like a leaking tap " Of course they should, but singling out one particular group? Thousands of people have flown in and out in the period from areas far more badly affected than Bulgaria - just take a look at the scheduled arrivals today. This particular thread is nothing but xenophobic hysteria. | |||
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"Nobody here gives a shit about Keelings all people want is cheap food. Keeling run a business in a hugely competitive market with contracts to the large supermarket chains. The contracts have to be filled or shut shop for good. There are companies in this country going to the wall everyday and the high street will look different after all this and two low cost airlines now gone. I will go out today and buy extra keelings products in solidarity with their decision to do everything in their power to keep there family business open and I wish them a long and prosperous future. Well done Keelings " Exactly, if people cared about the provenance of their food, they'd be doing the backbreaking work themselves. It's all bullshit. | |||
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"In fairness to keelings they advertise these jobs every year and nobody wants them even now The people that come over live on the farm,earn minimum wage for all hours worked and go back home after the season having saved as much as they can Its also a family thing from Bulgaria andvthey travel across europe doing the same thing every year. The other side of the equation is that people want 2 boxes of strawberries for a fiver Thats not the point . They were all on the one flight no social distancing . Putting Ryanair staff at risk . And airport staff and people who bought them to the farm . Using facilities in the airport toilets . All we hear now is practice social distancing 2m apart from each other and this is allowed to happen Seen the guards have put up on their site they didn't break any regulations which definitely isn't true.." Yet they were nearly going to turn me back from going to wicklow the other day, bringing some shopping down to the kids house for them and their mom.. next time im stopped i will just say im going down to pick strawberries | |||
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"Wow I am so pissed off with that wreck less stunt Keelings pulled, well done to that Ryan Air worked for making it known I doubt covid 19 is a big problem in Bulgaria where these workers are from and they will keep to themselves when they get to their accommodation.. Don't see what the what the outrage is all about.. They have more chance of catching said virus here than in their home place.. Its rampant in Dublin anyway they are essential workers.. Alternative is to let the crop spoil and no produce for us the customer to eat.. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face " Well if you believe that, then let them stay in your place. They dont pose any covid risk to you going by your logic. | |||
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"According to Keelings, they are being quarantined, which is more than I can say for local families here who returned from Spain and Italy. " Reports at least 1 of them escorted from a bank while trying to reactivate their old bank account. Thats not quarantineing. | |||
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"Where are they housing these people?I'd to stay at home from a job in north dublin because I cant get accommodation?keelings chartered a flight into a country that's on lockdown...that's madness... Ohhh and for why didnt they hire irish...when the jobs were advertised I'm sure ireland had a smaller unemployment rate...add to that...they are paying min wage...that will give you 390-400 a week on an average week I'm sure the people they flew in...wont be looking to clock off at 4.30 or 5 Then again...the country needs strawberries..an essential service..maybe...the factory we were building was for a cancer drug...that's stopped...dont think Ireland is the only place this has happened...england have done it too..and you can ask why the bulgarians agreed to come over...the average wage in Bulgaria is 1/4 of what it is here prob 300 quid a month...yes a month..so if they work 12 hour days 7 days a week..they are looking at very good money..anyway enjoy the strawberries..buy irish my hole...rant over" There's a small accommodation unit just before termonfeckin beach that is owned by keelings to hold 300 of these workers so they don't stay in the local community A bus brings them from bed to farm to bed everyday | |||
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"Bottom line feelings are telling lies no quarantine. No self isolating no social distance. No nothing .love to hear from employees already working there .. " Exactly, i agree with you.... if there are stringent rules followed then i have no issues with them coming for work. None at all. But the claimes of tests, and isolation etc etc etc is bullshit. And the amount of people here saying thats "fake book news" clowns. | |||
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" Yes but how will they police it if it becomes mandatory. I remember at the start they were keeping people in places for the 14days. With growing numbers they will have to do more for mandatory quarantine after travelling. The only way to mandate it is to take over every hotel needed in Dublin and fill each room and floor as they come in and start the clock for 14 days. Same as they are doing in China or NZ. In other words the only people that should be in these rooms are returning Irish or people with expertise out country needs for critical essential business. To do this will take time and until we are ready stop all inward travel to prevent people circumventing the implementation of those restrictions " Oh I think it could be sorted in 24 hours or less CJ. All the govt have to do is announce mandatory 14 isolation on arrival at govt designated location and I can tell you the numbers wanting to come in would dramatically drop other than those who really want to come home. The govt has already taken over hotels for the surge that hasn't happened to date and some of them remain empty and ready to take people. | |||
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"Wow I am so pissed off with that wreck less stunt Keelings pulled, well done to that Ryan Air worked for making it known I doubt covid 19 is a big problem in Bulgaria where these workers are from and they will keep to themselves when they get to their accommodation.. Don't see what the what the outrage is all about.. They have more chance of catching said virus here than in their home place.. Its rampant in Dublin anyway they are essential workers.. Alternative is to let the crop spoil and no produce for us the customer to eat.. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face Well if you believe that, then let them stay in your place. They dont pose any covid risk to you going by your logic." That's just being silly now.. They already have their own accommodation.. And I'd probably be safer living with a Bulgarian farm labourer than living with somebody from Dublin in terms of covid 19 risk | |||
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"Some very stupid opinions in this thread.. Obviously from people who don't have a bulls notion about harvesting crops and farming in general.. Might as well talk to the wall.. Seems some are jealous that a plane load of foreigner farm labourers have more rights of freedom than themselves.. They realise that their profession is not essential that's why they are stuck at home scratching their holes.. That's what the resentment is and this is why they can't see past anything else..suppose if you were stuck at home all day you'd become very bitter and start blaming people that are working and are providing a crucial service to us all that is Food.. I'm glad I work in agri sector " Its a load of BS your spewing out,get real we dont need Strawberries, their not essential to live on.Keelings have ignored social distancing on the plane, in the airport and the advice given by the HSE. You are comppletly out of touch and apppear to be totaly ignorant as to whats actualy happening regarding the virus. Time for you to put up and shut up with your nonsence. | |||
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"If irish people dont want the job then what do we do let the veg rot?" Or i would be devastated if i turned up to empty of the fruits that give me all the sexy energy lol. | |||
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"If irish people dont want the job then what do we do let the veg rot? Or i would be devastated if i turned up to empty of the fruits that give me all the sexy energy lol. " Swingkinkster40 Don't panic you can get the fruits for your energy from a grower in west cork that is hiring Irish workers with strict distancing rules in place and adhering to HSE guidelines as recommended. You can find their details online. | |||
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"If irish people dont want the job then what do we do let the veg rot? Or i would be devastated if i turned up to empty of the fruits that give me all the sexy energy lol. Swingkinkster40 Don't panic you can get the fruits for your energy from a grower in west cork that is hiring Irish workers with strict distancing rules in place and adhering to HSE guidelines as recommended. You can find their details online." Who are they? Do they do that lovely mixed tray like keelings do i wonder? Are they in the big stores like Tescos? | |||
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"Some very stupid opinions in this thread.. Obviously from people who don't have a bulls notion about harvesting crops and farming in general.. Might as well talk to the wall.. Seems some are jealous that a plane load of foreigner farm labourers have more rights of freedom than themselves.. They realise that their profession is not essential that's why they are stuck at home scratching their holes.. That's what the resentment is and this is why they can't see past anything else..suppose if you were stuck at home all day you'd become very bitter and start blaming people that are working and are providing a crucial service to us all that is Food.. I'm glad I work in agri sector Its a load of BS your spewing out,get real we dont need Strawberries, their not essential to live on.Keelings have ignored social distancing on the plane, in the airport and the advice given by the HSE. You are comppletly out of touch and apppear to be totaly ignorant as to whats actualy happening regarding the virus. Time for you to put up and shut up with your nonsence." How can strawberries not be essential? Now more than ever. Big sweet juicy fat ones, the ones you can glide over your lips, nibble a bit, lick them, push them in bit further, suck a bit more, lick your lips, close your eyes and if your able to conjure a picture in your mind, it might make you smile... And with cream they taste even yummier.... | |||
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"Clarke's fruit farms in co meath supplies lots of shops and supermarkets all over the country ...and employes hundreds of workers including lots of students Why you may ask ..because they pay them a decent wage and treats them well ....and there are lots of non nationals .. no problem so cosmic I know you say you are only on this site for the forum .but please cop yourself on . " well said and hit the nail on the head there | |||
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"Total disregard for Ireland and its citizens How many other similar wreckless things have been done that went unnoticed " 1000s of Irish citizens left these shores to go on a horse racing pilgrimage to Cheltenham ... and came back again | |||
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"Total disregard for Ireland and its citizens How many other similar wreckless things have been done that went unnoticed 1000s of Irish citizens left these shores to go on a horse racing pilgrimage to Cheltenham ... and came back again" And not a single check on them, but they were Irish so it's ok, right? | |||
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"Some very stupid opinions in this thread.. Obviously from people who don't have a bulls notion about harvesting crops and farming in general.. Might as well talk to the wall.. Seems some are jealous that a plane load of foreigner farm labourers have more rights of freedom than themselves.. They realise that their profession is not essential that's why they are stuck at home scratching their holes.. That's what the resentment is and this is why they can't see past anything else..suppose if you were stuck at home all day you'd become very bitter and start blaming people that are working and are providing a crucial service to us all that is Food.. I'm glad I work in agri sector Its a load of BS your spewing out,get real we dont need Strawberries, their not essential to live on.Keelings have ignored social distancing on the plane, in the airport and the advice given by the HSE. You are comppletly out of touch and apppear to be totaly ignorant as to whats actualy happening regarding the virus. Time for you to put up and shut up with your nonsence." Farming is included in the government's list of essential services along with forestry workers and a list of other professions.. The fact that's its strawberries has no bearing on the matter it could be just as easily be potatoes.. Need I go on.. If you say strawberries are not an essential food and we let the crop fail for this year then why not say other crops are not needed either.. If you let 1 go then other crops will follow.. The government recognise the need to produce food especially at a time of need.. No law has been broken.. Time to get over it and enjoy some juicy fat Keelings strawberries mmmmmm | |||
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"Cosmic .is your second name keeling . Or as you are in the agri business .maybe you have slave labourers on your farm" You know when you want to speak to someone here press the reply and quote button instead of just reply that way we know exactly who you're talking too just an idea | |||
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"This government is corrupt! Simon Coveney is a personal friend of keelings,the fruit is just another commodity, it's all down to greed & money again ,same as the beef being imported in to Ireland from Brazil via polish meat plants owned by Goodman, who is Coveney's wife only Larry's niece,she heads up the IDA ,Tara McCarthy CEO of board bia,worked for Larry for 15 yrs previous. It won't get much air time on rte, Coveney's brother is looking after what's aired there. Need I go on ,the Italian mafia have nothing on our crooks!" let’s hope people will remember when this crisis is over who fucked us once too often | |||
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"Some very stupid opinions in this thread.. Obviously from people who don't have a bulls notion about harvesting crops and farming in general.. Might as well talk to the wall.. Seems some are jealous that a plane load of foreigner farm labourers have more rights of freedom than themselves.. They realise that their profession is not essential that's why they are stuck at home scratching their holes.. That's what the resentment is and this is why they can't see past anything else..suppose if you were stuck at home all day you'd become very bitter and start blaming people that are working and are providing a crucial service to us all that is Food.. I'm glad I work in agri sector Its a load of BS your spewing out,get real we dont need Strawberries, their not essential to live on.Keelings have ignored social distancing on the plane, in the airport and the advice given by the HSE. You are comppletly out of touch and apppear to be totaly ignorant as to whats actualy happening regarding the virus. Time for you to put up and shut up with your nonsence. Farming is included in the government's list of essential services along with forestry workers and a list of other professions.. The fact that's its strawberries has no bearing on the matter it could be just as easily be potatoes.. Need I go on.. If you say strawberries are not an essential food and we let the crop fail for this year then why not say other crops are not needed either.. If you let 1 go then other crops will follow.. The government recognise the need to produce food especially at a time of need.. No law has been broken.. Time to get over it and enjoy some juicy fat Keelings strawberries mmmmmm " As your name suggests,your lost in space, your ideas are alien like yourself to us mere earthlings. Tell your race when you go back that us inteligent earthlings dont follow your stupid agenda.Tell your paymasters in space to send a real man to interact with the human race instead of sending a mere servent.Youre spaced out man get help,no point in going to the HSE as you dont belieive or follow in their guidlines. | |||
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"Done Trying to reason with city dwellers.. The concrete jungle has grinded to a halt but real work in the countryside will continue despite the protestations of townies.. Have a nice day " In fairness everyone has a different point of view depending on where they live Most people are on lockdown and cant visit their loved ones 180 people fly in and people are afraid that the lockdown will be extended Alt Right starts publishing fake pics of them queuing from last year and put up pics of keep Ireland for the Irish outside Keelings shops. From Keelings perspective they havent broken any laws(confirmed by Gardai) They have a crop to be picked and cant get Irish people to work there. You might say well pay more to workers but then they wouldnt sell as the price would have to go up. They might not sell the strawberries now anyway if people boycott them and as they'll be on a sale or return with the shops they'll lose their arse anyway The people in termonfeckin next to the accommodation blocks owned by keelings must be worried and I'd imagine the photographers are going to be there in force to see the buses from Monday | |||
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"Done Trying to reason with city dwellers.. The concrete jungle has grinded to a halt but real work in the countryside will continue despite the protestations of townies.. Have a nice day In fairness everyone has a different point of view depending on where they live Most people are on lockdown and cant visit their loved ones 180 people fly in and people are afraid that the lockdown will be extended Alt Right starts publishing fake pics of them queuing from last year and put up pics of keep Ireland for the Irish outside Keelings shops. From Keelings perspective they havent broken any laws(confirmed by Gardai) They have a crop to be picked and cant get Irish people to work there. You might say well pay more to workers but then they wouldnt sell as the price would have to go up. They might not sell the strawberries now anyway if people boycott them and as they'll be on a sale or return with the shops they'll lose their arse anyway The people in termonfeckin next to the accommodation blocks owned by keelings must be worried and I'd imagine the photographers are going to be there in force to see the buses from Monday " If they can afford to charter a plane , providing accommodation & pay €7.50 per hr Surely they can afford to pay people in Ireland a proper hourly rate They’d fill vacancies then They advertised in jan , feb when we were in employment That’s why they got no people to fill vacancies The Covid lockdown changed all that rapidly Greedy Bastards Thought they’d get them in off the Radar Well done Ryanair employee for highlighting it | |||
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"Maybe if they played Irish workers a decent wage they would have plenty of people to do the work Yes greedy The cheaper the labour the cheaper the product.. Would you pay a tenner for a small punnet of strawberries picked by "Irish" people on 15 an hour? Nobody would buy it.. Price is too high as it is.. Minimum wage to pick strawberries is a good deal its not heavy work.. There are no losers here.. The migrant workers get our minimum wage which is equivalent to at least 4 times the minimum wage in their own country.. They come work hard then go home when the season is finished and they've made a lot of money to bring home for their families.. We the consumer then enjoy cheap prices for fruit and veg.. Nobody loses.. Farming labourers are essential workers no matter where they come from" Are you involved with/ work with Keelings?? Your doing a lot of advocating on their behalf. | |||
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"Done Trying to reason with city dwellers.. The concrete jungle has grinded to a halt but real work in the countryside will continue despite the protestations of townies.. Have a nice day In fairness everyone has a different point of view depending on where they live Most people are on lockdown and cant visit their loved ones 180 people fly in and people are afraid that the lockdown will be extended Alt Right starts publishing fake pics of them queuing from last year and put up pics of keep Ireland for the Irish outside Keelings shops. From Keelings perspective they havent broken any laws(confirmed by Gardai) They have a crop to be picked and cant get Irish people to work there. You might say well pay more to workers but then they wouldnt sell as the price would have to go up. They might not sell the strawberries now anyway if people boycott them and as they'll be on a sale or return with the shops they'll lose their arse anyway The people in termonfeckin next to the accommodation blocks owned by keelings must be worried and I'd imagine the photographers are going to be there in force to see the buses from Monday If they can afford to charter a plane , providing accommodation & pay €7.50 per hr Surely they can afford to pay people in Ireland a proper hourly rate They’d fill vacancies then They advertised in jan , feb when we were in employment That’s why they got no people to fill vacancies The Covid lockdown changed all that rapidly Greedy Bastards Thought they’d get them in off the Radar Well done Ryanair employee for highlighting it " couldn’t agree more and thank you | |||
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"Cosmic.its not that long ago that you and some other dimwits north of the border in northern Ireland didn't agree with the pubs and restaurants being closed up there .personal i think you are only on here to stir the shit and try to annoy people because you couldn't be so irresponsible and basically THICK . So people I suggest we should ignore Thomas it's not the only topics he tries this on . Cop on .wee county man" Thick? This coming from a man who doesn't know how to use the reply and quote function | |||
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"Maybe if they played Irish workers a decent wage they would have plenty of people to do the work Yes greedy The cheaper the labour the cheaper the product.. Would you pay a tenner for a small punnet of strawberries picked by "Irish" people on 15 an hour? Nobody would buy it.. Price is too high as it is.. Minimum wage to pick strawberries is a good deal its not heavy work.. There are no losers here.. The migrant workers get our minimum wage which is equivalent to at least 4 times the minimum wage in their own country.. They come work hard then go home when the season is finished and they've made a lot of money to bring home for their families.. We the consumer then enjoy cheap prices for fruit and veg.. Nobody loses.. Farming labourers are essential workers no matter where they come from Are you involved with/ work with Keelings?? Your doing a lot of advocating on their behalf. " Not at all but I work in the industry so I know what I'm talking about | |||
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"Wow I am so pissed off with that wreck less stunt Keelings pulled, well done to that Ryan Air worked for making it known I doubt covid 19 is a big problem in Bulgaria where these workers are from and they will keep to themselves when they get to their accommodation.. Don't see what the what the outrage is all about.. They have more chance of catching said virus here than in their home place.. Its rampant in Dublin anyway they are essential workers.. Alternative is to let the crop spoil and no produce for us the customer to eat.. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face If you can't see where the outrage lies in this, you're naive..Keelings have made a major balls of this and there isn't even a thought of sending these people back..Simon Coveneys influence is strong. I'd rather see the strawberries rot than one single person go down due to this...a life is far more important than a punnet of soft fruit. Well I don't fancy dying of scurvy we all need vitamin C which strawberries have in abundance and that's how we can strengthen our immune systems so we can fight off covid 19 STFU you twat " Lovely this is what people resort to when they know their opinion has been dismantled with common sense | |||
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