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Is there any people here who are able to do
"distance healing" "Reiki" etc?
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Is there any people here who are able to do
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Or is there anyone who is completely sceptical
of the concept??"I'm completely sceptical and don't believe in reiki or distance healing. I've had it done to me when I was younger and it didn't do a thing to help. | |||
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" With all these restrictions in order
Is there any people here who are able to do
"distance healing" "Reiki" etc?
Or is there anyone who is completely sceptical
of the concept??"personally think it's bs but i know a few that believe and as long as it doesn't do harm to people more power to them. | |||
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" With all these restrictions in order
Is there any people here who are able to do
"distance healing" "Reiki" etc?
Or is there anyone who is completely sceptical
of the concept??
personally think it's bs but i know a few that believe and as long as it doesn't do harm to people more power to them. "The harm is that the practitioners general lie about the efficacy, and convince people who are genuinely sick to forgo real medicine. Also it encourages people to not learn real science and instead believe in twaddle and nonsense, holding the entire species back | |||
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All those charlatans and I include psychic, mediums , faith healers , healers of all u proven types, homeopaths etc they need to be arrested for fraud unless they can prove scientifically that they actually work. | |||
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"never tried reiki. must look into it" -------------- That there's an opinion I respect
because you don't know about it but are
willing to look into it more 
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Now, I don't mind someone saying it's
"amazing" "nonsense" "incredible" or "B.S"
...as long as they have experiential knowledge of a
topic but to just dismiss something or lump it
to conspiracy theories when the principle has
been used for 1,000's of years shows how much
people's minds are in reality welded shut 
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What's also interesting is that if I'd called this
thread "the power of prayer" a lot of people
would have been supportive in how affirmative
prayer can be in complimenting conventional
medicine... so thanks for all your opinions
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"never tried reiki. must look into it -------------- That there's an opinion I respect
because you don't know about it but are
willing to look into it more
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Now, I don't mind someone saying it's
"amazing" "nonsense" "incredible" or "B.S"
...as long as they have experiential knowledge of a
topic but to just dismiss something or lump it
to conspiracy theories when the principle has
been used for 1,000's of years shows how much
people's minds are in reality welded shut
-
What's also interesting is that if I'd called this
thread "the power of prayer" a lot of people
would have been supportive in how affirmative
prayer can be in complimenting conventional
medicine... so thanks for all your opinions
"Reiki is every bit as effective as prayer.. | |||
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"never tried reiki. must look into it -------------- That there's an opinion I respect
because you don't know about it but are
willing to look into it more
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Now, I don't mind someone saying it's
"amazing" "nonsense" "incredible" or "B.S"
...as long as they have experiential knowledge of a
topic but to just dismiss something or lump it
to conspiracy theories when the principle has
been used for 1,000's of years shows how much
people's minds are in reality welded shut
-
What's also interesting is that if I'd called this
thread "the power of prayer" a lot of people
would have been supportive in how affirmative
prayer can be in complimenting conventional
medicine... so thanks for all your opinions
Reiki is every bit as effective as prayer.. "It's also effective as magic beans  | |||
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"never tried reiki. must look into it -------------- That there's an opinion I respect
because you don't know about it but are
willing to look into it more
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Now, I don't mind someone saying it's
"amazing" "nonsense" "incredible" or "B.S"
...as long as they have experiential knowledge of a
topic but to just dismiss something or lump it
to conspiracy theories when the principle has
been used for 1,000's of years shows how much
people's minds are in reality welded shut
-
What's also interesting is that if I'd called this
thread "the power of prayer" a lot of people
would have been supportive in how affirmative
prayer can be in complimenting conventional
medicine... so thanks for all your opinions
Reiki is every bit as effective as prayer..
It's also effective as magic beans "And a letter to Santa.. | |||
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"It's complete shite. I know of a "healer" who makes an absolute fortune from it. Supposedly can cure everything from a graze/cut, mental health issue to autism. But funny enough their parent has a serious health issue (that's listed on the things they can help with) but can't/won't cure them.
All those charlatans and I include psychic, mediums , faith healers , healers of all u proven types, homeopaths etc they need to be arrested for fraud unless they can prove scientifically that they actually work. "----------------- Might come as a surprise but there's dodgy plumbers, mechanics, Doctors and Lawyers too The "healer" you know isn't EVERY healer or tantric practitioner...
and to lump it into the same mix as homeopaths and psychics shows how much tv and James Randi documentaries you've been watching my "critical thinking" friend
Happy Sunday | |||
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"never tried reiki. must look into it -------------- That there's an opinion I respect
because you don't know about it but are
willing to look into it more
----------
Now, I don't mind someone saying it's
"amazing" "nonsense" "incredible" or "B.S"
...as long as they have experiential knowledge of a
topic but to just dismiss something or lump it
to conspiracy theories when the principle has
been used for 1,000's of years shows how much
people's minds are in reality welded shut
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What's also interesting is that if I'd called this
thread "the power of prayer" a lot of people
would have been supportive in how affirmative
prayer can be in complimenting conventional
medicine... so thanks for all your opinions
"So you only respect the opinions you agree with....strange | |||
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"It's complete shite. I know of a "healer" who makes an absolute fortune from it. Supposedly can cure everything from a graze/cut, mental health issue to autism. But funny enough their parent has a serious health issue (that's listed on the things they can help with) but can't/won't cure them.
All those charlatans and I include psychic, mediums , faith healers , healers of all u proven types, homeopaths etc they need to be arrested for fraud unless they can prove scientifically that they actually work.
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Might come as a surprise but there's dodgy plumbers, mechanics, Doctors and Lawyers too The "healer" you know isn't EVERY healer or tantric practitioner...
and to lump it into the same mix as homeopaths and psychics shows how much tv and James Randi documentaries you've been watching my "critical thinking" friend
Happy Sunday "OK, I'll play.. show ANY genuine, peer reviewed research that shows ANY actual healing effects, ANY.. Take your time, no one is going anywhere, we'll wait | |||
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"I would urge everyone to read the Wikipedia page on Reiki, particularly the section "Research, critical evaluation, and controversy" A number of things jump out - what a load of cock it is, and how given its practitioners are to lie and deceive "--------------- How about also urging them to watch a Youtube video on tantra and "ENERGY ORGASMS" too while they're at it. Same basic principles using energy and intention
Also worth noting...that there's peolple who have done distant healing and prayer witout charging a cent so can't see why they'd want to deceive | |||
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"It's complete shite. I know of a "healer" who makes an absolute fortune from it. Supposedly can cure everything from a graze/cut, mental health issue to autism. But funny enough their parent has a serious health issue (that's listed on the things they can help with) but can't/won't cure them.
All those charlatans and I include psychic, mediums , faith healers , healers of all u proven types, homeopaths etc they need to be arrested for fraud unless they can prove scientifically that they actually work.
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Might come as a surprise but there's dodgy plumbers, mechanics, Doctors and Lawyers too The "healer" you know isn't EVERY healer or tantric practitioner...
and to lump it into the same mix as homeopaths and psychics shows how much tv and James Randi documentaries you've been watching my "critical thinking" friend
Happy Sunday
OK, I'll play.. show ANY genuine, peer reviewed research that shows ANY actual healing effects, ANY.. Take your time, no one is going anywhere, we'll wait"Still waiting... | |||
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"It's complete shite. I know of a "healer" who makes an absolute fortune from it. Supposedly can cure everything from a graze/cut, mental health issue to autism. But funny enough their parent has a serious health issue (that's listed on the things they can help with) but can't/won't cure them.
All those charlatans and I include psychic, mediums , faith healers , healers of all u proven types, homeopaths etc they need to be arrested for fraud unless they can prove scientifically that they actually work.
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Might come as a surprise but there's dodgy plumbers, mechanics, Doctors and Lawyers too The "healer" you know isn't EVERY healer or tantric practitioner...
and to lump it into the same mix as homeopaths and psychics shows how much tv and James Randi documentaries you've been watching my "critical thinking" friend
Happy Sunday
OK, I'll play.. show ANY genuine, peer reviewed research that shows ANY actual healing effects, ANY.. Take your time, no one is going anywhere, we'll wait"-------------------- Yale University Journal Of Conflict Resolution (subjected to mathematical analysis) as presented by John Hagelin shows the effects of group meditation on peace
You might not be going anywhere but am off to have my dinner.now so laters! | |||
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"It's complete shite. I know of a "healer" who makes an absolute fortune from it. Supposedly can cure everything from a graze/cut, mental health issue to autism. But funny enough their parent has a serious health issue (that's listed on the things they can help with) but can't/won't cure them.
All those charlatans and I include psychic, mediums , faith healers , healers of all u proven types, homeopaths etc they need to be arrested for fraud unless they can prove scientifically that they actually work.
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Might come as a surprise but there's dodgy plumbers, mechanics, Doctors and Lawyers too The "healer" you know isn't EVERY healer or tantric practitioner...
and to lump it into the same mix as homeopaths and psychics shows how much tv and James Randi documentaries you've been watching my "critical thinking" friend
Happy Sunday
OK, I'll play.. show ANY genuine, peer reviewed research that shows ANY actual healing effects, ANY.. Take your time, no one is going anywhere, we'll wait
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Yale University Journal Of Conflict Resolution (subjected to mathematical analysis) as presented by John Hagelin shows the effects of group meditation on peace
You might not be going anywhere but am off to have my dinner.now so laters! "Thats a false equivalency, meditation is proven to have benificial effects. Reiki is not meditation | |||
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"never tried reiki. must look into it -------------- That there's an opinion I respect
because you don't know about it but are
willing to look into it more
----------
Now, I don't mind someone saying it's
"amazing" "nonsense" "incredible" or "B.S"
...as long as they have experiential knowledge of a
topic but to just dismiss something or lump it
to conspiracy theories when the principle has
been used for 1,000's of years shows how much
people's minds are in reality welded shut
-
What's also interesting is that if I'd called this
thread "the power of prayer" a lot of people
would have been supportive in how affirmative
prayer can be in complimenting conventional
medicine... so thanks for all your opinions
"Well I didn't say it was bull I even said I had someone do reiki on me when I was young they claimed it could cure my asthma so my mum took me to see a reiki master several times and it didn't make the slightest difference.Just like the faith healer I was taken to and the goats milk I was made to drink or the flipping Guinness I had to drink with my dinner when I was 9 all because people swore it would help. The only thing that helped then and now is my medication I take daily. So ye I don't believe it works. Nor do I believe someone can heal you by looking at a picture. But each to their own I know some people who believe it does and that's their perogative I would never try and persuade them otherwise its their belief. I also don't believe in the power of prayer but again that gives people ease of mind when they need it so there is nothing wrong with that either. Everyone has their beliefs and faith or whatever they believe in and if that helps them get through life and makes their path easier then who is anyone to knock that. | |||
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"never tried reiki. must look into it -------------- That there's an opinion I respect
because you don't know about it but are
willing to look into it more
----------
Now, I don't mind someone saying it's
"amazing" "nonsense" "incredible" or "B.S"
...as long as they have experiential knowledge of a
topic but to just dismiss something or lump it
to conspiracy theories when the principle has
been used for 1,000's of years shows how much
people's minds are in reality welded shut
-
What's also interesting is that if I'd called this
thread "the power of prayer" a lot of people
would have been supportive in how affirmative
prayer can be in complimenting conventional
medicine... so thanks for all your opinions
Well I didn't say it was bull I even said I had someone do reiki on me when I was young they claimed it could cure my asthma so my mum took me to see a reiki master several times and it didn't make the slightest difference.Just like the faith healer I was taken to and the goats milk I was made to drink or the flipping Guinness I had to drink with my dinner when I was 9 all because people swore it would help. The only thing that helped then and now is my medication I take daily. So ye I don't believe it works. Nor do I believe someone can heal you by looking at a picture.
But each to their own I know some people who believe it does and that's their perogative I would never try and persuade them otherwise its their belief.
I also don't believe in the power of prayer but again that gives people ease of mind when they need it so there is nothing wrong with that either. Everyone has their beliefs and faith or whatever they believe in and if that helps them get through life and makes their path easier then who is anyone to knock that. " | |||
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" With all these restrictions in order
Is there any people here who are able to do
"distance healing" "Reiki" etc?
Or is there anyone who is completely sceptical
of the concept??
personally think it's bs but i know a few that believe and as long as it doesn't do harm to people more power to them.
The harm is that the practitioners general lie about the efficacy, and convince people who are genuinely sick to forgo real medicine. Also it encourages people to not learn real science and instead believe in twaddle and nonsense, holding the entire species back "i don't agree with peopele not seeking real medicine at all especially if they are being stopped by the "healer" | |||
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"It's complete shite. I know of a "healer" who makes an absolute fortune from it. Supposedly can cure everything from a graze/cut, mental health issue to autism. But funny enough their parent has a serious health issue (that's listed on the things they can help with) but can't/won't cure them.
All those charlatans and I include psychic, mediums , faith healers , healers of all u proven types, homeopaths etc they need to be arrested for fraud unless they can prove scientifically that they actually work.
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Might come as a surprise but there's dodgy plumbers, mechanics, Doctors and Lawyers too The "healer" you know isn't EVERY healer or tantric practitioner...
and to lump it into the same mix as homeopaths and psychics shows how much tv and James Randi documentaries you've been watching my "critical thinking" friend
Happy Sunday
OK, I'll play.. show ANY genuine, peer reviewed research that shows ANY actual healing effects, ANY.. Take your time, no one is going anywhere, we'll wait
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Yale University Journal Of Conflict Resolution (subjected to mathematical analysis) as presented by John Hagelin shows the effects of group meditation on peace
You might not be going anywhere but am off to have my dinner.now so laters! "In case anyone is interested, the claim in this paper is that a group of transcendental meditation practitioners got together and meditated, and cut violent crime in Washington DC by 25% for the duration. Which seems impressive until you find it that they only decided on Washington DC and violent crime after the fact, when they checked the statistics. This is called cherry picking, and is one of a number of dishonest, unscientific techniques used by charlatans | |||
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"Ghosts, distance healing, 5g causing illness, homeopathy ... These are all further evidence of of a lack of basic science education or understanding among the general population. Things are changing slowly, people now are less credulous and more scientific than they were 100 years ago, but there's still a way to go "Couldn't have said it better myself. | |||
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"You are a sceptical lot. But each to their own. I'd describe Reiki as the Japanese equivalent of the Christian Lourdes or Knock pilgrimages. A lot of people believe it works, so therefore it does. Someone asked for peer reviewed studies, check out all the studies from Chinese, and Japanese universities(im not going to list them here), and look beyond the western world view. Having an open mind is a gateway to more experiences than you can imagine with a closed mind. I posted last week about ghosts, and figured I'd never get a meet again. So, now this Reiki post might seal my fate. Who knows, there could be a beautiful, sexy hottie out there who has a fetish about Reiki master, ghost hunters. I live in hope. " how did i miss the one about ghosts. may go back and have a goo | |||
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"You are a sceptical lot. But each to their own. I'd describe Reiki as the Japanese equivalent of the Christian Lourdes or Knock pilgrimages. A lot of people believe it works, so therefore it does. Someone asked for peer reviewed studies, check out all the studies from Chinese, and Japanese universities(im not going to list them here), and look beyond the western world view. Having an open mind is a gateway to more experiences than you can imagine with a closed mind. I posted last week about ghosts, and figured I'd never get a meet again. So, now this Reiki post might seal my fate. Who knows, there could be a beautiful, sexy hottie out there who has a fetish about Reiki master, ghost hunters. I live in hope. " Well not so sure about the beautiful bit but can be a bit of a hottie at times - maybe some gently carressing hands will magic their way up my skirt and over my breasts - my ghosts have deserted me in my time of need!!!! | |||
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"You are a sceptical lot. But each to their own. I'd describe Reiki as the Japanese equivalent of the Christian Lourdes or Knock pilgrimages. A lot of people believe it works, so therefore it does. Someone asked for peer reviewed studies, check out all the studies from Chinese, and Japanese universities(im not going to list them here), and look beyond the western world view. Having an open mind is a gateway to more experiences than you can imagine with a closed mind. I posted last week about ghosts, and figured I'd never get a meet again. So, now this Reiki post might seal my fate. Who knows, there could be a beautiful, sexy hottie out there who has a fetish about Reiki master, ghost hunters. I live in hope. Well not so sure about the beautiful bit but can be a bit of a hottie at times - maybe some gently carressing hands will magic their way up my skirt and over my breasts - my ghosts have deserted me in my time of need!!!!" Ah poor Susie, would a bit of distant Reiki healing help, or maybe a little late night exorcism Might set you right, (from a distance, of course).. I hear your pain. | |||
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"You are a sceptical lot. But each to their own. I'd describe Reiki as the Japanese equivalent of the Christian Lourdes or Knock pilgrimages. A lot of people believe it works, so therefore it does. Someone asked for peer reviewed studies, check out all the studies from Chinese, and Japanese universities(im not going to list them here), and look beyond the western world view. Having an open mind is a gateway to more experiences than you can imagine with a closed mind. I posted last week about ghosts, and figured I'd never get a meet again. So, now this Reiki post might seal my fate. Who knows, there could be a beautiful, sexy hottie out there who has a fetish about Reiki master, ghost hunters. I live in hope. Well not so sure about the beautiful bit but can be a bit of a hottie at times - maybe some gently carressing hands will magic their way up my skirt and over my breasts - my ghosts have deserted me in my time of need!!!! Ah poor Susie, would a bit of distant Reiki healing help, or maybe a little late night exorcism Might set you right, (from a distance, of course).. I hear your pain. " | |||
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"You are a sceptical lot. But each to their own. I'd describe Reiki as the Japanese equivalent of the Christian Lourdes or Knock pilgrimages. A lot of people believe it works, so therefore it does. Someone asked for peer reviewed studies, check out all the studies from Chinese, and Japanese universities(im not going to list them here), and look beyond the western world view. Having an open mind is a gateway to more experiences than you can imagine with a closed mind. I posted last week about ghosts, and figured I'd never get a meet again. So, now this Reiki post might seal my fate. Who knows, there could be a beautiful, sexy hottie out there who has a fetish about Reiki master, ghost hunters. I live in hope. " "Effects of reiki in clinical practice: a systematic review of randomised clinical trials Myeong Soo Lee, Max H Pittler, Edzard Ernst International journal of clinical practice 62 (6), 947-954, 2008 Introduction: The aim of this systematic review is to summarise and critically evaluate the evidence for the effectiveness of reiki. Methods: We searched the literature using 23 databases from their respective inceptions through to November 2007 (search again 23 January 2008) without language restrictions. Methodological quality was assessed using the Jadad score. Results: The searches identified 205 potentially relevant studies. Nine randomised clinical trials (RCTs) met our inclusion criteria. Two RCTs suggested beneficial effects of reiki compared with sham control on depression, while one RCT did not report intergroup differences. For pain and anxiety, one RCT showed intergroup differences compared with sham control. For stress and hopelessness a further RCT reported effects of reiki and distant reiki compared with distant sham control. For functional recovery after ischaemic stroke there were no intergroup differences compared with sham. There was also no difference for anxiety between groups of pregnant women undergoing amniocentesis. For diabetic neuropathy there were no effects of reiki on pain. A further RCT failed to show the effects of reiki for anxiety and depression in women undergoing breast biopsy compared with conventional care. Discussion: In total, the trial data for any one condition are scarce and independent replications are not available for each condition. Most trials suffered from methodological flaws such as small sample size, inadequate study design and poor reporting. Conclusion: In conclusion, the evidence is insufficient to suggest that reiki is an effective treatment for any condition. Therefore the value of reiki remains unproven." 205 studies, 205... | |||
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"You are a sceptical lot. But each to their own. I'd describe Reiki as the Japanese equivalent of the Christian Lourdes or Knock pilgrimages. A lot of people believe it works, so therefore it does. Someone asked for peer reviewed studies, check out all the studies from Chinese, and Japanese universities(im not going to list them here), and look beyond the western world view. Having an open mind is a gateway to more experiences than you can imagine with a closed mind. I posted last week about ghosts, and figured I'd never get a meet again. So, now this Reiki post might seal my fate. Who knows, there could be a beautiful, sexy hottie out there who has a fetish about Reiki master, ghost hunters. I live in hope. " Lourdes ? Ffs. Provide some scientific evidence that Lourdes is a place that does what it's supposed to . A load of fucking nonsense. Sporadic anecdotal placebos do not convince. As Carl Sagan once said..extraprdinary claims require extraordinary evidence. People accept delusional claims because they don't critically evaluate them. Charlatans selling gullible people a load of tosh | |||
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"You are a sceptical lot. But each to their own. I'd describe Reiki as the Japanese equivalent of the Christian Lourdes or Knock pilgrimages. A lot of people believe it works, so therefore it does. Someone asked for peer reviewed studies, check out all the studies from Chinese, and Japanese universities(im not going to list them here), and look beyond the western world view. Having an open mind is a gateway to more experiences than you can imagine with a closed mind. I posted last week about ghosts, and figured I'd never get a meet again. So, now this Reiki post might seal my fate. Who knows, there could be a beautiful, sexy hottie out there who has a fetish about Reiki master, ghost hunters. I live in hope. Lourdes ? Ffs. Provide some scientific evidence that Lourdes is a place that does what it's supposed to . A load of fucking nonsense. Sporadic anecdotal placebos do not convince. As Carl Sagan once said..extraprdinary claims require extraordinary evidence. People accept delusional claims because they don't critically evaluate them. Charlatans selling gullible people a load of tosh " You could argue about lack of evidence, and who should bear the burden of proof upon until the cows come home. But it seems if someone just wants to believe something, no amount of logical reasoning will change their mind. Either that, or they refuse to even entertain any reasoning that they dont believe supports their claim. | |||
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"Total and complete nonsense. These healers are idiots at best, and complete con artists at worst." What they said.. | |||
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"I think personally people can believe whatever they want to believe. once its not encroaching on me or my business i dont really care. If everyone thought the same the world would be very bland. I have interests in things even himself rolls his eyes at but at the end of it all i enjoy it and im not harming anyone. that being said i would never encourage anyone to forego medicine if they were seriously ill. live and let live. " | |||
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"I think personally people can believe whatever they want to believe. once its not encroaching on me or my business i dont really care. If everyone thought the same the world would be very bland. I have interests in things even himself rolls his eyes at but at the end of it all i enjoy it and im not harming anyone. that being said i would never encourage anyone to forego medicine if they were seriously ill. live and let live. " Think this is a bit different though. People having different interests in things is perfectly fine and normal. This type of thing though is preying on vulnerable and easily led people and gaining financially from it, shysters as they're commonly known and the more they are called out on it, the better | |||
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