FabSwingers.com forum: Parkrun tourism

By *ob jones OP Man
over a year ago

Wales

Hi.

I am a keen parkrunner and my home run is Cardiff.

Now and then I do get some parkrun tourism in.

Are there any peeps who may be interested in some tourism and meets / hook ups along the way

Cheers

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

We do parkrun a lot!

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

Saturday morning and I'm off to Wolverhampton East park for my NENDY.

My tourist buddy is also on fab

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By *avartMan
over a year ago

Barnsley

I do Parkrun...

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By *elfastblondMan
over a year ago

Belfast

I parkrun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who’s running today??

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

We did! Swindon parkrun!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We did! Swindon parkrun! "

Nice! Enjoy it? Was soooo cold out!!

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

"We did! Swindon parkrun!

Nice! Enjoy it? Was soooo cold out!!"

Yes, trying to complete all the parkruns in the Southwest so we get about a bit!

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By *cotFit4funMan
over a year ago

Kettering

I have done parkrun but not for a while. Love seeing sexy bums there.. would love to find folk up for fun too though lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Over 300 parkruns under my belt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I parkrun on Aberdeen. Two off 250 .. any fabbers in Aberdeen who also parkrun get in touch ..

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By *moothie4664Woman
over a year ago

Bristol

"I parkrun on Aberdeen. Two off 250 .. any fabbers in Aberdeen who also parkrun get in touch .."

I did Aberdeen 2 years ago but home run is in the SW. 59 different parkruns completed.

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By *onathan200Man
over a year ago

Wrexham

Any Parkrunners at Wrexham Erddig?

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

Christmas Day parkrun tomorrow!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So who completed a park run today ?

I did the distance but (over the moors rather than in a park) before heading to family for Xmas dinner.

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

"So who completed a park run today ?

I did the distance but (over the moors rather than in a park) before heading to family for Xmas dinner. "

Tailwalked! It’s the best!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So who completed a park run today ?

I did the distance but (over the moors rather than in a park) before heading to family for Xmas dinner.

Tailwalked! It’s the best! "

Respect...... always good to volunteer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I park run

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By *moothie4664Woman
over a year ago

Bristol

I volunteered too. I've ran the last 2 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the Cardiff area it’s recently had 2 new parkruns added, tremofa and cosmeston lake

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will be at one tomorrow morning.

Anyone do one in Manchester?

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By *ornyguy169Man
over a year ago

birmingham

"I volunteered too. I've ran the last 2 years. "

Sorry to bother you but what is this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I volunteered too. I've ran the last 2 years.

Sorry to bother you but what is this "

parkrun organise free, weekly, 5km timed runs around the world. They are open to everyone, free, and are safe and easy to take part in.

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By *ornyguy169Man
over a year ago

birmingham

"I volunteered too. I've ran the last 2 years.

Sorry to bother you but what is this

parkrun organise free, weekly, 5km timed runs around the world. They are open to everyone, free, and are safe and easy to take part in."

So just running as exercise no sexual act involved

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By *m6469Couple
over a year ago

Northwich

Male half doing Northwich Cw9 in the morning say hi if anyone off here is going

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By *limprofessionalMan
over a year ago

crewe

Love this 2 great hobbies combined.

Anyone for alderford lake (Whitchurch) say hello......

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"I volunteered too. I've ran the last 2 years.

Sorry to bother you but what is this

parkrun organise free, weekly, 5km timed runs around the world. They are open to everyone, free, and are safe and easy to take part in.

So just running as exercise no sexual act involved "

No sexual acts, but very social. A lot of people go to a cafe afterwards.

Plus lots of lycra.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm going to do a park run or two in 2020 so a newbie here but if I enjoy will love travelling to a few!

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By *elfastblondMan
over a year ago

Belfast

"I'm going to do a park run or two in 2020 so a newbie here but if I enjoy will love travelling to a few! "

You can do a double on new year's Day

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

"I'm going to do a park run or two in 2020 so a newbie here but if I enjoy will love travelling to a few! "

We’re pretty advanced tourists in the Southwest. If you want to know anything about parkrun, give us a shout!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone going to try and do a double parkrun tomorrow?

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Anyone going to try and do a double parkrun tomorrow?

Great idea if someone can do a double. We'll be there in spirit (from bed!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone going to try and do a double parkrun tomorrow?

Yes will do the double at my 2 most local events. Always a fun way to start the year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I parkrun on Aberdeen. Two off 250 .. any fabbers in Aberdeen who also parkrun get in touch ..

I did Aberdeen 2 years ago but home run is in the SW. 59 different parkruns completed. "

If your park run is the Ashton court one, it's an evil bugger lol!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Norwich park run for me, done the Bristol one but any people visit Norwich give me a shout

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m heading east for my park run to a rather lovely NT property and a bit of trail running. It’s going to get dirty

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By *viatrixWoman
over a year ago

Redhill

Who’s doing a double tomorrow then?

I am trying Mole Valley and Reigate Priory Park... I am running the London Marathon and have done NO serious training since summer 2019, so meed to get my arse into gear!

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

We’re doing a double tomorrow!

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By *ldbury1984Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Anyone do any Midlands park runs

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By *lue-greenMan
over a year ago

Taunton

I'm a Parkrunner. Taunton and Burnham but will be a tourist this year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do Parkrun..."
we do Bournville

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We do crewe park runs x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do park run around north east

Double today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Park run in and around Stockport area. Always wonder when I’m running If any other fabbers are out on the same run!!

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By *elfastblondMan
over a year ago

Belfast

I'm doing a double around Belfast

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wife does park runs

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By *alvenieMan
over a year ago

Bouncing Between Swindon and Weston

"If your park run is the Ashton court one, it's an evil bugger lol!! "

230 parkruns at Ashton Court, just love that hill and it's very social in the cafe area after. My favourite quote is... Runners run because they love running. Joggers jog because they love cake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Over slept so no double for me!

Just Newport at 10.30

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By *etmelickMan
over a year ago

North East

Best intentions for today didnt happen! Maybe later I'll still do the distance!

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By *rish10ladMan
over a year ago

Dublin

I'm doing Park runs a little over a year. Anyone else in Dublin

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By *ne4meMan
over a year ago

London

Ned to restart park runs as close to my 100th and have a marathon to train for (first one), best get some exercise started in 2020

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By *viatrixWoman
over a year ago

Redhill

98th parkrun yesterday!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"98th parkrun yesterday!!

Well done almost to the 100 mile stone,

I’m on 68 and trying to plan it out so next Christmas Day will be my 100

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love ParkRun, the amount of people turning up on News Year day was huge. Either no one drinks as much anymore or they can all run on a hangover.

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By *moothie4664Woman
over a year ago

Bristol

I did a club new years eve then still got up for the double in Copenhagen. Lots more touring this year.

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By *elfastblondMan
over a year ago

Belfast

"I did a club new years eve then still got up for the double in Copenhagen. Lots more touring this year. "

Running in Copenhagen sounds amazing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hit number 30 yesterday took up running in March!!!

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By *alvenieMan
over a year ago

Bouncing Between Swindon and Weston

Sunday

Monday

Tuesday

Wednesday

Thursday

Friday

parkrunday

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Combining ParkRun with Fabbing is an excellent idea!!! Well up for that!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone do PR in the north east? On here!

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By *moothie4664Woman
over a year ago

Bristol

"Anyone do PR in the north east? On here!"

I've done Redcar and Stewart.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone do PR in the north east? On here!

I've done Redcar and Stewart.

Nice! I wanna do more around here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chester and Wepre are my local runs (did bottle on NYD).

I've done the Liverpool, Crosby and Birkenhead run too

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By *istressZoeTV/TS
over a year ago

cheshire

Genius idea this x

I’m a park runner

Heading towards 50

Regularly run 23 mins but hoping to smash my pb and achieve 22-30 ish

Would be interested to know of any kinky peeps who park run around Cheshire x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Genius idea this x

I’m a park runner

Heading towards 50

Regularly run 23 mins but hoping to smash my pb and achieve 22-30 ish

Would be interested to know of any kinky peeps who park run around Cheshire x"

I do Chester and thinking of trying Delamere in the summer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve done Princess Park in Liverpool and thinking of doing Delamere Forest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cannon Hill Park for us, Birmingham

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do Antrim parkrun and others round NI if anyone is interested in a Saturday morning meet or coffee afterwards

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By *rben112Man
over a year ago

worcester

I do them too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We all love a good park run!

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By *elfastblondMan
over a year ago

Belfast

"I do Antrim parkrun and others round NI if anyone is interested in a Saturday morning meet or coffee afterwards"

Let's see if we can get get some ladies or couples interested!

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By *allgirthyMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

I live near Harrogate / Leeds but regularly come across to the Bridlington / Sewerby one for a nice change, as I did yesterday. The town itself is pretty down on its luck but the parkrun is actually one of the most picturesque out there - running along the clifftop beside the sea and then through the gardens of a stately home - thoroughly recommend it in all seasons. Would love to have a local social with somebody else whilst over this way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just over 100 done now. Roll on tomorrow. No Pb attempt just some pacing for me.

Enjoy!

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By *viatrixWoman
over a year ago

Redhill

100th parkrun tomorrow!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"100th parkrun tomorrow!

Enjoy!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love a tourist PR!

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By *istressZoeTV/TS
over a year ago

cheshire

"100th parkrun tomorrow!

Amazing x Well done x enjoy your run x

I’m on no 46 tomorrow x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Enjoy! Who else is running?

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By *elfastblondMan
over a year ago

Belfast

"100th parkrun tomorrow!

Congratulations, I hope you're bringing cake!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stupid question what is parkrun tourism

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By *agnar1980Man
over a year ago

Poole

I’m doing park run today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Stupid question what is parkrun tourism "

Travelling somewhere other than your local run.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m doing one of my local parkruns today,

It’ll be Number 70 on my way to that tee shirt

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By *MattyMan
over a year ago

Naked coffee house near you - Wiltshire - Swindon

parkrunner here. Swindon my home one anyone else here run Swindon?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tough conditions out there today

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By *av_55Man
over a year ago

I work all over uk and used to work all over world (to much time in sand pit ) so I have done my fair share around uk

Used to call them hash house runs when in China and Middle East

God knows why lol

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By *avartMan
over a year ago

Barnsley

Last Parkrun I did was the New Year's Day one in Barnsley.

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington

"Stupid question what is parkrun tourism "
It's a unique way of proving that the good idea of jogging round your local park can be turned into environmentally unsustainable counsumerism by twenty first century trainspotters....

Or maybe not. ParkRun is a really well funded way of getting people jogging that involves local runs in parks; some peope then set themselves a goal of doing as many of these runs as possible, travelling the country to do so. I'm sure they believe that's a good and healthy thing to do...

Mr Icebreaker

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By *kyblue1878Couple
over a year ago

Southport

Parkrun this morning after coached swimming. Bike day tomorrow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chelmsford Central Park run today along with another 900 folks. Great fun

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By *ob jones OP Man
over a year ago

Wales

Would any ppl fancy pstk run tourism.. Hotel with done Saturday swapping

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

900

I don’t think I could cope with that many people over taking me haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"900

I don’t think I could cope with that many people over taking me haha"

This will definitely be me on my first one soon! Hahahahahahahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haha it’s not cool haha

I got over taken by 3 kids and a pram this week!

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By *indy777Couple
over a year ago

Hampshire

Park run with a fab couple. What a nice way to combine hobbies!,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone do PR in the north east? On here!

I've done Redcar and Stewart.

Redcar is run by a great group of people. Really welcoming. We always run it when we go back up to see family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm going to do a park run or two in 2020 so a newbie here but if I enjoy will love travelling to a few! "

You obviously avnt heard of Bournville harriers swingers network

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By *ivedancerMan
over a year ago

Horsham

Horsham and Southwater Country Park checking in . Always happy to have a run social as a hookup connection.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm going to do a park run or two in 2020 so a newbie here but if I enjoy will love travelling to a few!

You obviously avnt heard of Bournville harriers swingers network "

Nor have we?! Teal Appeal???!

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By *angOnBunnyCouple
over a year ago

Ipswich

Park runners here too. Did my 50th in Warsaw so love a tourism event.

Not sure I'm all that communicative while putting myself through pain on a run though

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By *istressZoeTV/TS
over a year ago

cheshire

I’ve got an opportunity for some park run tourism this weekend x but it will be a very vanilla affair it it happens x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Done loads of parkrun’s, love them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s days like this I question my life choices. The weather is awful out there but parkrun here I come....

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By *agnar1980Man
over a year ago

Poole

My parkrun is cancelled so going to have to run on my own today.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"It’s days like this I question my life choices. The weather is awful out there but parkrun here I come...."

Same here mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Southwick Park run here..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who’s out running today?

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By *averockrockMan
over a year ago

swindon

Swindon parkrun, who is in it?

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By *elfastblondMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Carrickfergus for me this morning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At least it’s dry out today!

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By *agnar1980Man
over a year ago

Poole

Poole for me if I can get out of bed! Why did I drink so much last night!!

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"Who’s out running today? "

Just getting ready for Penrith Parkrun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have a good run!

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By *ussD1Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

Gloucester City today, or I may go run over Cleeve common from the three masts. — locals will know. A couple of times I’ve spotted naughty shenanigans up there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How did you all get on?

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"I work all over uk and used to work all over world (to much time in sand pit ) so I have done my fair share around uk

Used to call them hash house runs when in China and Middle East

God knows why lol

I do the hash house runs in Zambia and Rwanda. They are slightly different to UK Park Run, they are runs for people who generally consume large amounts of Alcohol. Not family events

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"How did you all get on? "

Unfortunately my recurring calf injury popped again at 2k, so I limped off

A friend of mine was in a similar situation with his hamstring, so we had a chuckle together as we hobbled off, two ageing gentlemen......

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By *agnar1980Man
over a year ago

Poole

"How did you all get on? "

The hangover was too much!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Today was new shoes and new parkrun venue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

O dear! Hope everyone recovers!

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

"How did you all get on? "

New pb’s for both!

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By *ogging DougMan
over a year ago

Guildford

parkrunner here. Love a bit of tourism, which fits well when I visit different clubs except for the late night / early morning..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How did you all get on?

New pb’s for both! "

Congrats!

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By *ogging DougMan
over a year ago

Guildford

"How did you all get on?

New pb’s for both! "

Well done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your 5k time will take a serious knocking if your stopping for a bunk up halfway round

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Already planning next weeks parkrun. It’s time for some tourism but where to run!

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

"Already planning next weeks parkrun. It’s time for some tourism but where to run!

We plan at least 8 weeks in advance!

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By *cotFit4funMan
over a year ago

Kettering

I need to get back into parkrun. Hopefully sometime over the next few weeks. Kettering has a lovely park with Wicksteed park near me.. would love someone to make an advance on me there then go somewhere quiet for fun..

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By *agnar1980Man
over a year ago

Poole

To make up for not going yesterday I did go for a run this & did 8.5k in 50mins. Happy with that! Bring on the half marathon in June!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Already planning next weeks parkrun. It’s time for some tourism but where to run!

We plan at least 8 weeks in advance! "

Where’s coming up?

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

"Already planning next weeks parkrun. It’s time for some tourism but where to run!

We plan at least 8 weeks in advance!

Where’s coming up?

Don’t really think we’ll say here. It’s something we keep a bit separate.

We’re not there to look hot and we wouldn’t want to meet people there!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Already planning next weeks parkrun. It’s time for some tourism but where to run!

We plan at least 8 weeks in advance!

Where’s coming up?

Don’t really think we’ll say here. It’s something we keep a bit separate.

We’re not there to look hot and we wouldn’t want to meet people there! "

Haha! Fair play! Enjoy through

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By *etmelickMan
over a year ago

North East

Anyone running tomorrow?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone running tomorrow? "

Volunteering. I wont be hi fiving though!

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"Anyone running tomorrow? "

My right calf muscle is crocked, so resting for a couple of weeks

Going to fit a new garage door instead this weekend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone running tomorrow? "

Yeah I will be. Does it feel right too? I’m not sure. Tough decisions.

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By *etmelickMan
over a year ago

North East

It's outdoors so i think any risk is minimal. I also think it's all being over hyped by the media though...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great idea!

I'm setting up a new event in Cornwall at the moment. Imagine fab and Parkrun joining for better health

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By *agnar1980Man
over a year ago

Poole

Ours has been called off but I’m going for a run anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yup I’m out this morning first one in weeks that hasn’t be cancelled due to the weather

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By *ussD1Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

Parkrun will be announcing a national shut down soon. Got the message from our local Event Director this morning.

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

"Parkrun will be announcing a national shut down soon. Got the message from our local Event Director this morning. "

Your ED is misinformed, no announcement has been made to teams yet.

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By *ussD1Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Parkrun will be announcing a national shut down soon. Got the message from our local Event Director this morning.

Your ED is misinformed, no announcement has been made to teams yet. "

As soon as gatherings of 500 or more are banned it’s inevitable as closing one PR that has 500 or more will push up others nearby. Oh, and I think you’ll find I said “will be announced soon” not “have announced” *sigh so many wanting to negatively jump on others rather than take on board what was actually said.

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By *etmelickMan
over a year ago

North East

Nothing to stop us running the usisl rpute anyway and logging the time ourselves afterwards.....

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"Nothing to stop us running the usisl rpute anyway and logging the time ourselves afterwards....."

I'll miss the social side. If I'm running on my own, I have a nice 5k route starting and finishing at home.

On the plus side, when we can congregate again, some of the waterlogged and damaged courses will have had a chance to dry out and recover.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parkrun will be announcing a national shut down soon. Got the message from our local Event Director this morning.

Your ED is misinformed, no announcement has been made to teams yet.

In fairness what you said, as already pointed out, was little more than speculation. And while it seems inevitable that will be the case no announcement has been made and I doubt any RD would actually be pre-empting the announcement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nothing to stop us running the usisl rpute anyway and logging the time ourselves afterwards....."

Honestly if people do this it will massively piss off the landowners whose permission is vital for parkrun

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"Nothing to stop us running the usisl rpute anyway and logging the time ourselves afterwards.....

Honestly if people do this it will massively piss off the landowners whose permission is vital for parkrun "

But most are in public parks, or National trust, or forestry commission.

I can think of a couple I've visited that are on "private" land (sports clubs, racecourses) but hopefully people will be sensible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nothing to stop us running the usisl rpute anyway and logging the time ourselves afterwards.....

Honestly if people do this it will massively piss off the landowners whose permission is vital for parkrun

But most are in public parks, or National trust, or forestry commission.

I can think of a couple I've visited that are on "private" land (sports clubs, racecourses) but hopefully people will be sensible."

You do realise that those public parks are owned by a council who authorise events? That the national trust and forrestry commission give permission for events on their land? And that they can withdraw it just as easy as a private landowner. And will be mightily pissed off at people ignoring that events are cancelled and turning up anyway

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"Nothing to stop us running the usisl rpute anyway and logging the time ourselves afterwards.....

Honestly if people do this it will massively piss off the landowners whose permission is vital for parkrun

But most are in public parks, or National trust, or forestry commission.

I can think of a couple I've visited that are on "private" land (sports clubs, racecourses) but hopefully people will be sensible.

Unless parks and other public places are declared closed, it's none of their business if I decide to go for a run on my own.

I agree that if a mob turned up at nine am on a Saturday, it might be a problem, but as long as I'm not wearing a mile stone t-shirt, how would they know who is jogging generally on a Sunday afternoon or Wednesday evening against people freedom running alone on a course.

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By *ussD1Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Parkrun will be announcing a national shut down soon. Got the message from our local Event Director this morning.

Your ED is misinformed, no announcement has been made to teams yet.

Speculation based on communication from PR HQ about the need to consider a corporate response and linking it to issues with just closing one PR and pushing up numbers in others. I’m pretty sure all RDs are considering and discussing. Hence the conversation this morning.

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By *ussD1Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Nothing to stop us running the usisl rpute anyway and logging the time ourselves afterwards.....

Honestly if people do this it will massively piss off the landowners whose permission is vital for parkrun

But most are in public parks, or National trust, or forestry commission.

I can think of a couple I've visited that are on "private" land (sports clubs, racecourses) but hopefully people will be sensible.

Unless parks and other public places are declared closed, it's none of their business if I decide to go for a run on my own.

If you chose to do a freedom run in a public park with even 20 or 30 runners no one can stop you, or I think realistically would care. Parkrun corporately just won't have the systems in place to support and therefore it won’t be under their control or responsibility. Therefore their liability is managed. Cancelling parkruns nationally is about liability as well as altruism. If cancelled, therefore not timed or counted against your PR tally, most will just run the streets.

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