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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" I won't meet married men. I've been the 'cheated on wife' at the other end. Why would I do that to someone else? | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" No. The decision is that of the parties involved. | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" It's the heartbreak and devastation that they leave behind that's the fuss If they aren't happy at home they should man up and leave so the wife can find happiness with a real man | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" It is you're right but everyone else has the choice to meet a married man or not. | |||
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"If someone doesn't have any respect for the person they promised to be faithful to, then they sure as hell won't have any respect for me. Why would I meet someone who would have no respect for me?"  | |||
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"If someone doesn't have any respect for the person they promised to be faithful to, then they sure as hell won't have any respect for me. Why would I meet someone who would have no respect for me?" Covers it perfectly we think. | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ?" They would if they were bothered about it, some people don't care if they play with married or attached people. As I say, each to their own, but not for us. | |||
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"We dont judge people on here x married single gay bi x there life xx nothing to do with us we enjoy swinging " Agree with this We play with who is right for us.  | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ?" Yes. It's generally quite obvious after a few questions as well. | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands? I won't meet married men. I've been the 'cheated on wife' at the other end. Why would I do that to someone else?" Exactly this. I have respect for someone else's relationship, even if they themselves don't. | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands? I won't meet married men. I've been the 'cheated on wife' at the other end. Why would I do that to someone else? Exactly this. I have respect for someone else's relationship, even if they themselves don't. " | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ?" It's usually fairly obvious from conversations if you chat with people first, we've found guys in clubs tend to be quite open about it. If it's not we usually work the question into conversation. We're not going in with twenty questions, if they choose to lie that's down to them, but if I found out we wouldn't meet again. | |||
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"We dont judge people on here x married single gay bi x there life xx nothing to do with us we enjoy swinging Agree with this We play with who is right for us. " | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands? I won't meet married men. I've been the 'cheated on wife' at the other end. Why would I do that to someone else?" Exactly for this reason | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? They would if they were bothered about it, some people don't care if they play with married or attached people. As I say, each to their own, but not for us." In the approx 12 years i have been going to swinging clubs i have never been asked if im married or single and i have never heard anyone ask others either lol. | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" Swinging for me means a great deal of trust, placed in the person i swing with as well as my partner. How could i trust a liar? | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? Yes. It's generally quite obvious after a few questions as well." I have never been asked in 12 years and i have never heard anyone ask others nor any questions that would lead to that. | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" can I nominate this as the most pointless thread of 2016  | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands? Swinging for me means a great deal of trust, placed in the person i swing with as well as my partner. How could i trust a liar?" Do you really think people are totally honest in the world of swinging ?  | |||
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"I think i must be deaf or stupid or both cus i have never been questioned in anyway and i dont give much if any info out about me lol." Exactly this. in a club, do people do a questionnaire with potential play partners to find out all about their personal lives...? I don't think so somehow. | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? It's usually fairly obvious from conversations if you chat with people first, we've found guys in clubs tend to be quite open about it. If it's not we usually work the question into conversation. We're not going in with twenty questions, if they choose to lie that's down to them, but if I found out we wouldn't meet again." I fail to see how it can be obvious. Anyone can say anything, and be believed. | |||
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"Some ladies on here are married themselves and are on here without their spouses knowledge.so their preference may be to meet people in the same position.thus their choice would be to meet people who wish to be as discreet as they themselves are.each to their own as they say.if they disclose this fact before meeting anyone,then everyone can make an informed decision." | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? "Precisely | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" So not only are you disregarding your wife's decision about you being unfaithful, you also disregard the person who you are meeting's choice too. Unbelievably selfish behaviour there OP. Fuck everyone else as long as you are getting fucked attitude. | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? Yes. It's generally quite obvious after a few questions as well. I have never been asked in 12 years and i have never heard anyone ask others nor any questions that would lead to that." But are you cheating on your partner? | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. " And this is the reality of it. | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it." Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it." But it's still the married person who is the one being deceitful, and I choose my men wisely, married men that aren't stupid enough to have messages on mobiles or let their partners have access to their phones. I'm also extremely wary who I give my number to. I know people who have seperate phones just for Fab. There are ways and means. Cheating does not have to end in tears. | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. " Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages." In what way? | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way?" If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. " I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect." Well I'm living proof it can work | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. Well I'm living proof it can work "Ok, I am pleased it works for you | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" The fuss is married men keep starting threads bringing up this topic. The fuss is its a swingers site. Yes others use it as a sex site, some use it to cam others use it for the forums etc. But it's primary purpose is swinging. Which attracts people who like to be open with their partners about sex. Therefore they have a different view from the married men who can't help themselves from starting these debates. If you don't want a topic discussing, don't start a thread about it. Simple! | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. Well I'm living proof it can work
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands? The fuss is married men keep starting threads bringing up this topic. The fuss is its a swingers site. Yes others use it as a sex site, some use it to cam others use it for the forums etc. But it's primary purpose is swinging. Which attracts people who like to be open with their partners about sex. Therefore they have a different view from the married men who can't help themselves from starting these debates. If you don't want a topic discussing, don't start a thread about it. Simple! " | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. Well I'm living proof it can work
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands? The fuss is married men keep starting threads bringing up this topic. The fuss is its a swingers site. Yes others use it as a sex site, some use it to cam others use it for the forums etc. But it's primary purpose is swinging. Which attracts people who like to be open with their partners about sex. Therefore they have a different view from the married men who can't help themselves from starting these debates. If you don't want a topic discussing, don't start a thread about it. Simple! "But swinging is sex.....so it is a sex site. Swinging is not just about swinging with a partner. Single people can be swingers too. Just look at the amount of couples who are seeking a single fem...that speaks volumes in itself. | |||
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"If swinging is just sex, why call it swinging. May as well call it sex. Try telling the general public they are all swingers as they all have sex. I think they would disagree. The point stands, if he does not want a thread about married men cheating then don't start one. " They would disagree. My point was that it's not just couples who can do swinging, amd that this site is primarily about sex. I agree that people shouldn't start a thread about cheating if they don't want grief, because it's such a controversial subject on here. | |||
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"If swinging is just sex, why call it swinging. May as well call it sex. Try telling the general public they are all swingers as they all have sex. I think they would disagree. The point stands, if he does not want a thread about married men cheating then don't start one. They would disagree. My point was that it's not just couples who can do swinging, amd that this site is primarily about sex. I agree that people shouldn't start a thread about cheating if they don't want grief, because it's such a controversial subject on here." I never said only couples can swing? I said swinging attracts people who like to be open and honest with their partners about sex. You can still be single yet want to have that set of values with your sexual partners. To counter that I would expect swingers to be in a minority on sites like Ashley madison. Both sites have sexual elements, but are focused on different groupings. If Ashley madison had a thread about married men I'd expect it to less controversial within that grouping. Hence why it is controversial here. | |||
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"I don't knowingly play with singles who have a vanilla partner who doesn't know about the lifestyle. Swinging isn't just couple swapping because singles like me swing. And there are a few singles in relationships that play alone and there partner is aware but doesn't play these are still swingers. Then there are the singles in relationships and the other half doesn't know these aren't swingers! they are cheaters! Trying to get their sexual kicks because they are 'misunderstood' when in fact they misunderstand swinging is about having fun with full disclosure we know that it's just fun but if the other half at home doesn't know it's not swinging simple" I disagree. Singles in relationships where their other half doesn't know, are still swingers. | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. Well I'm living proof it can work "May we ask if your partner knows? If not, would it work so well if your partner knew. An honestly curious question. | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? Yes. It's generally quite obvious after a few questions as well. I have never been asked in 12 years and i have never heard anyone ask others nor any questions that would lead to that. But are you cheating on your partner?" I dont understand what your question has to do with what i said ! | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. Well I'm living proof it can work
May we ask if your partner knows?
If not, would it work so well if your partner knew.
An honestly curious question. "No he doesn't,,and never will | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. Well I'm living proof it can work
May we ask if your partner knows?
If not, would it work so well if your partner knew.
An honestly curious question.
No he doesn't,,and never will"If the reasons/circumstances are right, then fair enough. Covers all we think!! | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. Well I'm living proof it can work
May we ask if your partner knows?
If not, would it work so well if your partner knew.
An honestly curious question.
No he doesn't,,and never will
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? Yes. It's generally quite obvious after a few questions as well. I have never been asked in 12 years and i have never heard anyone ask others nor any questions that would lead to that. But are you cheating on your partner? I dont understand what your question has to do with what i said !" If you play as a couple at clubs, why would someone ask if you are cheating on your partner? | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? Yes. It's generally quite obvious after a few questions as well. I have never been asked in 12 years and i have never heard anyone ask others nor any questions that would lead to that. But are you cheating on your partner? I dont understand what your question has to do with what i said ! If you play as a couple at clubs, why would someone ask if you are cheating on your partner?" I doubt they would, and would they really expect that everyone answers honestly anyway ?! | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? Yes. It's generally quite obvious after a few questions as well. I have never been asked in 12 years and i have never heard anyone ask others nor any questions that would lead to that. But are you cheating on your partner? I dont understand what your question has to do with what i said ! If you play as a couple at clubs, why would someone ask if you are cheating on your partner? I doubt they would, and would they really expect that everyone answers honestly anyway ?!" | |||
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"Selfishly, We live in a relatively nice place, we have nice cars and we like our neighbours... Why would we want to risk any of that by inviting trouble in the form of an angry jilted spouse to our door, of course you always risk someone is lying about being single but still. Less selfishly I wouldn't want to hurt someone like that, it is more than just sadness or pain because their partner cheated it makes people feel worthless, it makes people feel like they can't trust anyone and yeah, they may get over it, but it could also be what tips someone over the edge. Why would I wanna be responsible for that? And why would I deny that I was responsible by making the choice to sleep with someone who is cheating?" Don't invite them to your house then you wouldn't have that issue. Most mature people on here I have come across are exceptionally discrete, in fact more so than singles, at keeping their swinging life seperate from their private lives. You all assume that cheaters get found out, people have done it for years and never been caught. Having said that, it is entirely your choice as to whether you meet married people, and I make it totally clear to any prospective people that I wish to meet that I'm cheating. The decision is then theirs to make and I always respect if they decide they can't meet me. Having said that, there has hardly been any at all that have declined | |||
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"Selfishly, We live in a relatively nice place, we have nice cars and we like our neighbours... Why would we want to risk any of that by inviting trouble in the form of an angry jilted spouse to our door, of course you always risk someone is lying about being single but still. Less selfishly I wouldn't want to hurt someone like that, it is more than just sadness or pain because their partner cheated it makes people feel worthless, it makes people feel like they can't trust anyone and yeah, they may get over it, but it could also be what tips someone over the edge. Why would I wanna be responsible for that? And why would I deny that I was responsible by making the choice to sleep with someone who is cheating? Don't invite them to your house then you wouldn't have that issue. Most mature people on here I have come across are exceptionally discrete, in fact more so than singles, at keeping their swinging life seperate from their private lives. You all assume that cheaters get found out, people have done it for years and never been caught. Having said that, it is entirely your choice as to whether you meet married people, and I make it totally clear to any prospective people that I wish to meet that I'm cheating. The decision is then theirs to make and I always respect if they decide they can't meet me. Having said that, there has hardly been any at all that have declined "* most married (not most mature) damn typos | |||
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"Everybody is entitled to their own opinion on any subject it's when someone for a wind up decides to open a thread to discuss a subject like this that causes controversy and divides opinions. Everyone who is involved within the swinging lifestyle is here for their own particular reasons and shouldn't be judged by others who similarly are here too If we were all innocent and virginal white there would be no such thing as swinging and we would all abide by our marriage vows. That includes couples too, you vowed on your wedding day to take no other than your spouse yet both of you choose to practice sexual games with different partners with or without the others consent. Where is the difference you are still breaking those same vows. I am on here and other sites for a specific reason and 99.9% of women I meet are married or in a long term relationship. Doesn't matter whether that partner knows/consents or not I provide a need that these women do not get at home. I would like someone to explain to me why these threads are about married men and not women as so many of you are on here for the reasons. My tuppence worth " It is about married men and women. I think you are right, in that everyone is here for their own reasons. It's what works for the individuals, imo. What I think is clear, is that there are those who have been devastated by cheating partners and thus wouldn't meet someone who is cheating. I have seen the fallout from a cheating partner and it wasn't great. But yes each to their own, nobody else's business and happy swinging! | |||
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"Everybody is entitled to their own opinion on any subject it's when someone for a wind up decides to open a thread to discuss a subject like this that causes controversy and divides opinions. Everyone who is involved within the swinging lifestyle is here for their own particular reasons and shouldn't be judged by others who similarly are here too If we were all innocent and virginal white there would be no such thing as swinging and we would all abide by our marriage vows. That includes couples too, you vowed on your wedding day to take no other than your spouse yet both of you choose to practice sexual games with different partners with or without the others consent. Where is the difference you are still breaking those same vows. I am on here and other sites for a specific reason and 99.9% of women I meet are married or in a long term relationship. Doesn't matter whether that partner knows/consents or not I provide a need that these women do not get at home. I would like someone to explain to me why these threads are about married men and not women as so many of you are on here for the reasons. My tuppence worth " There are plenty of threads about married woman, believe me, as I've been at the brunt of them a few times as I'm outspoken and controversial, survived with just a telling off from the moral police, no handcuffs have ever been produced.....as of yet | |||
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"... I just feel my karma is not suited to a sexual experience with somebody who I know is cheating. It just doesn't feel at all comfortable to me, or sit right with me and therefore there isn't an experience worth having of that nature for me..." This. Mrs. | |||
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"Everybody is entitled to their own opinion on any subject it's when someone for a wind up decides to open a thread to discuss a subject like this that causes controversy and divides opinions. Everyone who is involved within the swinging lifestyle is here for their own particular reasons and shouldn't be judged by others who similarly are here too If we were all innocent and virginal white there would be no such thing as swinging and we would all abide by our marriage vows. That includes couples too, you vowed on your wedding day to take no other than your spouse yet both of you choose to practice sexual games with different partners with or without the others consent. Where is the difference you are still breaking those same vows. I am on here and other sites for a specific reason and 99.9% of women I meet are married or in a long term relationship. Doesn't matter whether that partner knows/consents or not I provide a need that these women do not get at home. I would like someone to explain to me why these threads are about married men and not women as so many of you are on here for the reasons. My tuppence worth There are plenty of threads about married woman, believe me, as I've been at the brunt of them a few times as I'm outspoken and controversial, survived with just a telling off from the moral police, no handcuffs have ever been produced.....as of yet " | |||
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That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
Not us. "And not us | |||
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That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church? "Not us | |||
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That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church? "I think the thing is that none of us have led a blameless life. Trying not to cause too much damage is the best we can hope for. | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. Well I'm living proof it can work "so u told your partner and he was thrilled i take it . | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. Well I'm living proof it can work so u told your partner and he was thrilled i take it ."What relevance does that have as to whether cheating works or it doesn't? If he does know, and we are still together, my marriage is working, if he doesn't know, and we are still together, then my marriage is still working. Whichever way, cheating can save a marriage. I'm not prepared to hijack this thread anymore, by talking about my marriage. There are plenty of previous threads for you to read about my marriage, if you're really that interested. | |||
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"Getting a ..WHO IS THIS ?? Phone call is not the nicest I do meet married guys...as long as they tell me up front Then it's my decision to take things further or not?" | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. Well I'm living proof it can work so u told your partner and he was thrilled i take it .
What relevance does that have as to whether cheating works or it doesn't? If he does know, and we are still together, my marriage is working, if he doesn't know, and we are still together, then my marriage is still working. Whichever way, cheating can save a marriage.
I'm not prepared to hijack this thread anymore, by talking about my marriage. There are plenty of previous threads for you to read about my marriage, if you're really that interested. "don't post on open forums then if you don't like to talk about it lol.it's relevant because you posted on a cheating thread that it saves marriages.you have been asked by one other person how so and your reply is basically a get off my back reply .it's olso relevent as I think that it's b.s. that it saves marriages hence why I asked if your husband new.if he is oblivious then no it saves no marriage for him as he can't make and informed decision himself can he so in what way does sleeping behind his back benefit him.because you haven't been found out yet doesn't mean cheating saves marriages does it.I'm sorry as I can only go off what you say and again you are posting in open forum. | |||
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That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church? "You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......? | |||
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"If you marry in a registry office you don't vow to only have sex with your partner. That is because you don't take vows based on outdated religious beliefs I was countering the argument that married swingers are going against their vows. Religious beliefs aren't outdated to the people who abide by them in my opinion
That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?"That would be interesting to know too | |||
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"If you marry in a registry office you don't vow to only have sex with your partner. That is because you don't take vows based on outdated religious beliefs I was countering the argument that married swingers are going against their vows. Religious beliefs aren't outdated to the people who abide by them in my opinion
That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?"35 years married here. First and only marriage. So I guess at least we can answer that question honestly. xxxxx Suzi | |||
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"If you marry in a registry office you don't vow to only have sex with your partner. That is because you don't take vows based on outdated religious beliefs I was countering the argument that married swingers are going against their vows. Religious beliefs aren't outdated to the people who abide by them in my opinion
That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?"then how far could you go.....first relashinship,first fuck ,first kiss lol.we aint even married and have no need to but still been together for years.it's all about the love and respect as best friends for life.that's what it is about for us anyway so yea fuck Jesus and all that shite . | |||
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"If you marry in a registry office you don't vow to only have sex with your partner. That is because you don't take vows based on outdated religious beliefs I was countering the argument that married swingers are going against their vows. Religious beliefs aren't outdated to the people who abide by them in my opinion
That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?"And how many couples have broken up because of swinging? | |||
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"If you marry in a registry office you don't vow to only have sex with your partner. That is because you don't take vows based on outdated religious beliefs I was countering the argument that married swingers are going against their vows. Religious beliefs aren't outdated to the people who abide by them in my opinion
That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?
And how many couples have broken up because of swinging?"Death is the only thing that will eventually separate myself and hubby.  xxxx Suzi | |||
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"If you marry in a registry office you don't vow to only have sex with your partner. That is because you don't take vows based on outdated religious beliefs I was countering the argument that married swingers are going against their vows. Religious beliefs aren't outdated to the people who abide by them in my opinion
That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?
And how many couples have broken up because of swinging?
Death is the only thing that will eventually separate myself and hubby. xxxx Suzi "That's a lovely thought but there are no guarantees in anyones relationship. | |||
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"If you marry in a registry office you don't vow to only have sex with your partner. That is because you don't take vows based on outdated religious beliefs I was countering the argument that married swingers are going against their vows. Religious beliefs aren't outdated to the people who abide by them in my opinion
That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?
And how many couples have broken up because of swinging?
Death is the only thing that will eventually separate myself and hubby. xxxx Suzi
That's a lovely thought but there are no guarantees in anyones relationship."That is true. However death is the only guarantee in life. Wether in a relationship or not xxxxx xxxxx Suzi | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" yes of course the decision to cheat is one party within the relationship, equally the decision not to meet such people is to be respected and not harped on about ad infinitum.. | |||
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"If you marry in a registry office you don't vow to only have sex with your partner. That is because you don't take vows based on outdated religious beliefs I was countering the argument that married swingers are going against their vows. Religious beliefs aren't outdated to the people who abide by them in my opinion
That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?
35 years married here. First and only marriage. So I guess at least we can answer that question honestly. xxxxx Suzi "Fair play to you Suzi | |||
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" You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?" I've been with some of my partners longer than many couples on here have been married, no doubt. Does marriage make it different? | |||
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"If you marry in a registry office you don't vow to only have sex with your partner. That is because you don't take vows based on outdated religious beliefs I was countering the argument that married swingers are going against their vows. Religious beliefs aren't outdated to the people who abide by them in my opinion
That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?
And how many couples have broken up because of swinging?
Death is the only thing that will eventually separate myself and hubby. xxxx Suzi
That's a lovely thought but there are no guarantees in anyones relationship.
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" You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......? I've been with some of my partners longer than many couples on here have been married, no doubt. Does marriage make it different?" Not at all. It certainly doesn't mean their relationship is any better/stronger/closer. At the end of the day, marriage is just confirmed by a piece of paper. | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. And this is the reality of it. Agreed. And sadly the innocent party suffers along with the children. Not necessarily. Cheating can save marriages. In what way? If you really have to ask, them I'm afraid I seriously doubt you would understand. I would be interested to try and understand, as with the cheaters I know, it really did not save their marriages, but had quite the opposite effect. Well I'm living proof it can work so u told your partner and he was thrilled i take it .
What relevance does that have as to whether cheating works or it doesn't? If he does know, and we are still together, my marriage is working, if he doesn't know, and we are still together, then my marriage is still working. Whichever way, cheating can save a marriage.
I'm not prepared to hijack this thread anymore, by talking about my marriage. There are plenty of previous threads for you to read about my marriage, if you're really that interested. don't post on open forums then if you don't like to talk about it lol.it's relevant because you posted on a cheating thread that it saves marriages.you have been asked by one other person how so and your reply is basically a get off my back reply .it's olso relevent as I think that it's b.s. that it saves marriages hence why I asked if your husband new.if he is oblivious then no it saves no marriage for him as he can't make and informed decision himself can he so in what way does sleeping behind his back benefit him.because you haven't been found out yet doesn't mean cheating saves marriages does it.I'm sorry as I can only go off what you say and again you are posting in open forum."Nowhere at all have I said I don't like to talk about it. You have misunderstood. I said I'm not prepared to hijack this thread , to have the whole thread about my marriage...I really don't think that I'm that important lol, but like I said before, if you find me so interesting then please feel free to click on my green arrow where you will find more information on my marital affairs | |||
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"Back to the OP's question. The decision to cheat on partners wether female or male is their decision. The same as it is people's decision wether to meet these people or not. It is the person who is doing the cheating who has to live with any consequences of their actions. But what they do with their lives has no impact on my life, so hey ho. And yet again a thread has descended into chaos. Hilarious, how this always happens xxxxx Suzi "Isn't it just. Beats boring "suck,fuck,avoid" threads | |||
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"Back to the OP's question. The decision to cheat on partners wether female or male is their decision. The same as it is people's decision wether to meet these people or not. It is the person who is doing the cheating who has to live with any consequences of their actions. But what they do with their lives has no impact on my life, so hey ho. And yet again a thread has descended into chaos. Hilarious, how this always happens xxxxx Suzi
Isn't it just. Beats boring "suck,fuck,avoid" threads "Bet the OP is that this thread is still rumbling on after a couple of days. Congrats OP. Not many achieve that. xxxxxx Suzi | |||
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"If you marry in a registry office you don't vow to only have sex with your partner. That is because you don't take vows based on outdated religious beliefs I was countering the argument that married swingers are going against their vows. Religious beliefs aren't outdated to the people who abide by them in my opinion
That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?"We're not | |||
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"If you marry in a registry office you don't vow to only have sex with your partner. That is because you don't take vows based on outdated religious beliefs I was countering the argument that married swingers are going against their vows. Religious beliefs aren't outdated to the people who abide by them in my opinion
That's an interesting point. I'm now wondering how many swinging couples were actually married in a church?
You might also like to wonder, how many swinging couples are on their first marriage......?
And how many couples have broken up because of swinging?"We didn't | |||
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"Back to the OP's question. The decision to cheat on partners wether female or male is their decision. The same as it is people's decision wether to meet these people or not. It is the person who is doing the cheating who has to live with any consequences of their actions. But what they do with their lives has no impact on my life, so hey ho. And yet again a thread has descended into chaos. Hilarious, how this always happens xxxxx Suzi
Isn't it just. Beats boring "suck,fuck,avoid" threads " interesting debate! | |||
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"Back to the OP's question. The decision to cheat on partners wether female or male is their decision. The same as it is people's decision wether to meet these people or not. It is the person who is doing the cheating who has to live with any consequences of their actions. But what they do with their lives has no impact on my life, so hey ho. And yet again a thread has descended into chaos. Hilarious, how this always happens xxxxx Suzi
Isn't it just. Beats boring "suck,fuck,avoid" threads
Bet the OP is that this thread is still rumbling on after a couple of days. Congrats OP. Not many achieve that. xxxxxx Suzi "Pity he hasn't joined in though, would be interested to know what he's thinking | |||
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"What if the partner is unable to fulfill the intimate part of married life. My wife suffers from nr Nerve myopothmy in the pelvis meaning interiors in unbearably painful! Just explaining not everything is black and white?. Do I tell my sick wife of 30 years I'm cheating too.. " I would personally. But it's your life. I couldn't imagine keeping something so important a secret from someone I care about. It's not how my relationships work. | |||
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"What if the partner is unable to fulfill the intimate part of married life. My wife suffers from nr Nerve myopothmy in the pelvis meaning interiors in unbearably painful! Just explaining not everything is black and white?. Do I tell my sick wife of 30 years I'm cheating too.. I would personally. But it's your life. I couldn't imagine keeping something so important a secret from someone I care about. It's not how my relationships work." Sorry dear but if it came to it I'd cut off my cock rather than hurt her. Relationships work in lots of different ways not just yours. | |||
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"What if the partner is unable to fulfill the intimate part of married life. My wife suffers from nr Nerve myopothmy in the pelvis meaning interiors in unbearably painful! Just explaining not everything is black and white?. Do I tell my sick wife of 30 years I'm cheating too.. I would personally. But it's your life. I couldn't imagine keeping something so important a secret from someone I care about. It's not how my relationships work. Sorry dear but if it came to it I'd cut off my cock rather than hurt her. Relationships work in lots of different ways not just yours. " You asked what other people would do. I told you what I would do. Clearly you didn't actually want to know what other people would do if it was different to what you do. I'm almost certain she would be hurt if she discovered your infidelity. When will you be cutting off your cock? | |||
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"And the world goes on and is full of judgemental hypocrites. Don't spout such hypocritical garbage - we are all here to widen our carnal knowledge with other folks whether single or married. Just get real and if you don't like it why are you on this site? " By your logic the hypocrites are entitled to be here too and you should be accepting of them | |||
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"And the world goes on and is full of judgemental hypocrites. Don't spout such hypocritical garbage - we are all here to widen our carnal knowledge with other folks whether single or married. Just get real and if you don't like it why are you on this site? " I assume you include yourself as a judgemental hypocrite. As you just made your own sweeping judgement on those with a different opinion to you. May as well have said... is full of people... Or if you were feeling pleasant lovely people. | |||
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"And the world goes on and is full of judgemental hypocrites. Don't spout such hypocritical garbage - we are all here to widen our carnal knowledge with other folks whether single or married. Just get real and if you don't like it why are you on this site? " Why is it always the people who are cheating that accuse others of being hypocrites if they want to choose who they have sex with? | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? Yes. It's generally quite obvious after a few questions as well. I have never been asked in 12 years and i have never heard anyone ask others nor any questions that would lead to that. But are you cheating on your partner? I dont understand what your question has to do with what i said ! If you play as a couple at clubs, why would someone ask if you are cheating on your partner?" I met my partner while swinging so i havnt always been with him during my swinging life. I went clubs alone aswell as with various male friends, who would know if they were my husbsnd/partner etc. I wasnt specifically talking about me being questioned, i meant i have never heard anyone being questioned about being single or not. | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? Yes. It's generally quite obvious after a few questions as well. I have never been asked in 12 years and i have never heard anyone ask others nor any questions that would lead to that. But are you cheating on your partner? I dont understand what your question has to do with what i said ! If you play as a couple at clubs, why would someone ask if you are cheating on your partner? I doubt they would, and would they really expect that everyone answers honestly anyway ?!" | |||
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"What if the partner is unable to fulfill the intimate part of married life. My wife suffers from nr Nerve myopothmy in the pelvis meaning interiors in unbearably painful! Just explaining not everything is black and white?. Do I tell my sick wife of 30 years I'm cheating too.. I would personally. But it's your life. I couldn't imagine keeping something so important a secret from someone I care about. It's not how my relationships work. Sorry dear but if it came to it I'd cut off my cock rather than hurt her. Relationships work in lots of different ways not just yours. You asked what other people would do. I told you what I would do. Clearly you didn't actually want to know what other people would do if it was different to what you do. I'm almost certain she would be hurt if she discovered your infidelity. When will you be cutting off your cock? " actually I would love to know what other people would do in my situation without being full of shit. I wont be cutting my cock of dear as my right hand wouldn't get any use!. how long is the longest you've gone without sex may I ask !.. not masturbation but an actual cock up you giving you climax.. you tell me dear and i'll tell you how long ive hed to tie a knot in it ! | |||
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"actually I would love to know what other people would do in my situation without being full of shit. I wont be cutting my cock of dear as my right hand wouldn't get any use!. how long is the longest you've gone without sex may I ask !.. not masturbation but an actual cock up you giving you climax.. you tell me dear and i'll tell you how long ive hed to tie a knot in it ! " Look, if you want to cheat then cheat. But don't be surprised that if you bring it up on a forum then people will think that what you're doing is not very kind. Plenty of people on here are cheating and just getting on with it without bringing it up on the forums. Do that. Personally, when I discovered that when sex was more important to me than fidelity then I asked my partner for an open relationship. He decided he didn't want an open relationship so I left him. It took great courage (and poverty) to walk away and start again. And it put me very much on my own. But now I feel a thousand times better, because I'm not cheating on someone who I promised to be faithful to. | |||
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"I do the best I can to not be an aid or accomplice to someones deception and deceit. I don't judge. We all have our reasons for using this site, but I do my best to avoid people with noncomplicit partners. You can never be completely sure of everyone, there are some amazing liars in the world. The memory of the phone call I answered a few years ago from the wife (that "didn't exist"), who had found my texts, telling me she was leaving him now with their baby, is still very upsetting. " Yes, haunting I would imagine. I try not to collude with any kind of deception. And on a purely selfish note I don't want to risk getting involved with someone who's heart actually belongs to someone else anyway. | |||
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"actually I would love to know what other people would do in my situation without being full of shit. I wont be cutting my cock of dear as my right hand wouldn't get any use!. how long is the longest you've gone without sex may I ask !.. not masturbation but an actual cock up you giving you climax.. you tell me dear and i'll tell you how long ive hed to tie a knot in it ! Look, if you want to cheat then cheat. But don't be surprised that if you bring it up on a forum then people will think that what you're doing is not very kind. Plenty of people on here are cheating and just getting on with it without bringing it up on the forums. Do that. Personally, when I discovered that when sex was more important to me than fidelity then I asked my partner for an open relationship. He decided he didn't want an open relationship so I left him. It took great courage (and poverty) to walk away and start again. And it put me very much on my own. But now I feel a thousand times better, because I'm not cheating on someone who I promised to be faithful to." poor you... I'm actually her full time care too.. leaving aint an option ! | |||
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"What about married men playing with wifes consent?" Simple, get it confirmed by the wife over the phone before continuing. | |||
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"Most cheating partners claim to love and adore their partners and I cannot be complicit in hurting someone so loved and adored. " My thoughts exactly. Make me wonder what their idea of love and adore is about. | |||
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"Because you have a choice to meet single guys where you don't have to deal with the availability issue. And because there are some attached guys who are far less discreet than they probably ought to be and we don't want to be dealing with an angry partner when they find out. " | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" Yes; and it is my decision not to meet with a liar and a cheater | |||
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"What about married men playing with wifes consent?" Why would that be a problem? It's not cheating if it's out in the open and arranged with consent. (I have feelings about 'don't ask don't tell' relationships, but that's a grey area.) | |||
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"What about married men playing with wifes consent? Why would that be a problem? It's not cheating if it's out in the open and arranged with consent. (I have feelings about 'don't ask don't tell' relationships, but that's a grey area.)" Agreed. We ask & tell and just crack on with it. | |||
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"What about married men playing with wifes consent?" Cool; can I meet her at her home and verify this with her Call me sceptical but I don't believe that "playing with wife's consent" until she says the same
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" Yes, as is the decision of a couple to meet one. Personally, we wouldn't want a cheated on wife to find out and compromise our discretion. So many genuine single guys on here, so no need to bother with those with baggage. | |||
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"If someone doesn't have any respect for the person they promised to be faithful to, then they sure as hell won't have any respect for me. Why would I meet someone who would have no respect for me?" | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands?" Then feel free to make it clear on your profile op and then ppl can make up their own minds if they want to meet you or not . As for it just being the husbands decision to cheat .... no its up to all parties if they wished to be involved in the cheating by meeting him or not . If the cheats upfront about his relationship situation then at least they walk in eyes wide open to the potential shit strong that could and have happened when he's found out. | |||
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"What about married men playing with wifes consent?" The huge difference is the "with consent" . Most though it's behind partners back zero consent .... that's where alot would have the issue | |||
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"What about married men playing with wifes consent? Cool; can I meet her at her home and verify this with her Call me sceptical but I don't believe that "playing with wife's consent" until she says the same
And if the cup of consent overfloweth then lets have mad passionate sex in the living room at yours "You could totally actually do that at mine. In fact I've walked in on my nesting partner fucking his girlfriend on the sofa before, when they didn't realise I was coming home early.  | |||
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"I wonder if people are playing with others in a club and check with them to see if they are single or not ? Yes. It's generally quite obvious after a few questions as well. I have never been asked in 12 years and i have never heard anyone ask others nor any questions that would lead to that. But are you cheating on your partner? I dont understand what your question has to do with what i said ! If you play as a couple at clubs, why would someone ask if you are cheating on your partner? I met my partner while swinging so i havnt always been with him during my swinging life. I went clubs alone aswell as with various male friends, who would know if they were my husbsnd/partner etc. I wasnt specifically talking about me being questioned, i meant i have never heard anyone being questioned about being single or not. " Ok, thanks for explaining that. | |||
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"What about married men playing with wifes consent? Simple, get it confirmed by the wife over the phone before continuing. " How would you guarantee you see speaking to his wife? | |||
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"Most cheating partners claim to love and adore their partners and I cannot be complicit in hurting someone so loved and adored. My thoughts exactly. Make me wonder what their idea of love and adore is about. " It's quite easy to understand when you find yourself in that situation. | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands? Yes, as is the decision of a couple to meet one. Personally, we wouldn't want a cheated on wife to find out and compromise our discretion. So many genuine single guys on here, so no need to bother with those with baggage. " Single guys can bring so much more issues to your doorstep though, I've found married men can be so much easier with less baggage. | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands? Swinging for me means a great deal of trust, placed in the person i swing with as well as my partner. How could i trust a liar? Do you really think people are totally honest in the world of swinging ? "No i dont at all.... But i have no respect for liars. The married men who have messaged me have all been honest they are married (up front from the go) & i respect them for it. But they are still liars and i cant abide a liar | |||
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"Most cheating partners claim to love and adore their partners and I cannot be complicit in hurting someone so loved and adored. My thoughts exactly. Make me wonder what their idea of love and adore is about. It's quite easy to understand when you find yourself in that situation. " I've been in that situation and cheated. Looking back, I think I was a cunt. At the time I thought that only people on my situation would understand. | |||
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"Most cheating partners claim to love and adore their partners and I cannot be complicit in hurting someone so loved and adored. My thoughts exactly. Make me wonder what their idea of love and adore is about. It's quite easy to understand when you find yourself in that situation. I've been in that situation and cheated. Looking back, I think I was a cunt. At the time I thought that only people on my situation would understand." I'm sure you weren't. You would have your reasons for doing what you did. | |||
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"What is the fuss about married men? As long as any limited availability issues are addressed and understood, isn't the decision to cheat or not the husbands? I won't meet married men. I've been the 'cheated on wife' at the other end. Why would I do that to someone else?" | |||
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