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"It’s not racist to have a sexual preference" This right here! | |||
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"Mate, my fanny is not an equal opportunities entity. Until there is legislation governing who we can and cannot choose to fuck, what gets her moist is an entirely private matter between her and the mass of neurons in the bone box at the top of my neck and while for me, it's more complex than degrees of melanin, for some it's more straightforward and you obviously don't make the cut... small hint though...whingers and foot stampers don't do it for me or many here, no matter what the hue of their complexion...just saying " I have my little saying.... Im fussy but my pussy is fussier....we have choices | |||
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"Mate, my fanny is not an equal opportunities entity. Until there is legislation governing who we can and cannot choose to fuck, what gets her moist is an entirely private matter between her and the mass of neurons in the bone box at the top of my neck and while for me, it's more complex than degrees of melanin, for some it's more straightforward and you obviously don't make the cut... small hint though...whingers and foot stampers don't do it for me or many here, no matter what the hue of their complexion...just saying " I love this... xxx | |||
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"Remember everyone has a right to be very specific about the type of person they'd like to play with. Not racism it's a preference." Definition of the term is; Racial fetishism is a sexual preference for members of a certain race, typically people of colour. | |||
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"It's funny how it's always the people not getting fetished over that seem to have an issue " Actually you’ll find it was directed to all ethnicities e.g. amongst the group of profiles was the comment “No Asians or coloured”. | |||
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""Life is like a box of chocolates" " Indeed it is, I couldn’t agree more! I’m just asking the question as it’s interesting that the swinging scene still seems to be stuck in the 70’s with regards to people’s attitude to racial fetishism | |||
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"Mate, my fanny is not an equal opportunities entity. Until there is legislation governing who we can and cannot choose to fuck, what gets her moist is an entirely private matter between her and the mass of neurons in the bone box at the top of my neck and while for me, it's more complex than degrees of melanin, for some it's more straightforward and you obviously don't make the cut... small hint though...whingers and foot stampers don't do it for me or many here, no matter what the hue of their complexion...just saying " This is true but for the sake of total clarity are you saying it’s ok for people to be racist on their profiles? | |||
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"It’s not racist to have a sexual preference" “When you reduce human beings to characteristics, often stereotypical of their race, ethnicity, or culture, you’re objectifying them to fulfill your own personal wishes and expectations for how they should look and/or behave.” Quotation about Racial Fetishism from a very interesting article; Is It Racist to Have a Racial Dating Preference? By Kyndall Cunningham | |||
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"FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; Depends how it's wrote on their profiles... Its not inciting racism if its a preference! " Indeed they aren’t ‘inciting racism’ but that’s not the question I posted...I simply asked if it was against Fab’s Acceptable Use Policy....which references publishing racist content...it doesn’t say “don’t incite racism” | |||
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"Another man moaning !" For the sake of total clarity are you saying it’s ok for people to be racist on their profiles? | |||
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"Trying to lawyer your way into someone’s pants is never gonna work bud. Take the L and move on, you’re embarrassing yourself. " I asked a question about whether having racial fetishism comments on profiles is against Fabs Acceptable Use policy. Yet you think I’m trying to get my way into someone’s pants...strange thought process but you’re entitled to your opinion. | |||
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"Trying to lawyer your way into someone’s pants is never gonna work bud. Take the L and move on, you’re embarrassing yourself. I asked a question about whether having racial fetishism comments on profiles is against Fabs Acceptable Use policy. Yet you think I’m trying to get my way into someone’s pants...strange thought process but you’re entitled to your opinion. " So why ask here, why not simply mail via the contat option and ask those responsible for said policy? | |||
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"Trying to lawyer your way into someone’s pants is never gonna work bud. Take the L and move on, you’re embarrassing yourself. I asked a question about whether having racial fetishism comments on profiles is against Fabs Acceptable Use policy. Yet you think I’m trying to get my way into someone’s pants...strange thought process but you’re entitled to your opinion. So why ask here, why not simply mail via the contat option and ask those responsible for said policy?" I thought it was a subject matter worth discussion but its ok if you don’t think the same. | |||
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"Trying to lawyer your way into someone’s pants is never gonna work bud. Take the L and move on, you’re embarrassing yourself. I asked a question about whether having racial fetishism comments on profiles is against Fabs Acceptable Use policy. Yet you think I’m trying to get my way into someone’s pants...strange thought process but you’re entitled to your opinion. So why ask here, why not simply mail via the contat option and ask those responsible for said policy? I thought it was a subject matter worth discussion but its ok if you don’t think the same." So, just putting it out there, and for the sake of discussion: Does the same question arise when it comes to gender. For example a straight guy seeking a female and not a tv. Is that gender fetishism or just a good old fashioned preference. Or is it trans phobic? (For the record I see it as nothing more sinister than a preference) | |||
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"Trying to lawyer your way into someone’s pants is never gonna work bud. Take the L and move on, you’re embarrassing yourself. I asked a question about whether having racial fetishism comments on profiles is against Fabs Acceptable Use policy. Yet you think I’m trying to get my way into someone’s pants...strange thought process but you’re entitled to your opinion. So why ask here, why not simply mail via the contat option and ask those responsible for said policy? I thought it was a subject matter worth discussion but its ok if you don’t think the same. So, just putting it out there, and for the sake of discussion: Does the same question arise when it comes to gender. For example a straight guy seeking a female and not a tv. Is that gender fetishism or just a good old fashioned preference. Or is it trans phobic? (For the record I see it as nothing more sinister than a preference)" The debate about preference versus is it overt racism or any other type of discrimination is an interesting topic. Fabs has the ability to filter by ethnicity/sexual orientation/gender/etc on its search function....is this where you should ‘express your preference’ rather than post discriminatory comments over a profile or status update or a Meet Today post? For example is it different when someone excludes trans people from their searches versus explicitly writing “no trans people” on their profile? For the record I’m genuinely asking the question not stating my opinion....over the last 13yrs I’ve found myself in all types of interesting and fun situations with pretty much all groups. | |||
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"Our profile clearly states no ASIANS .. simple as that , we dont play with black guys either , nothing rasist towards any one but if you dont like ya simply dont like , just for the records we dont play with TVs, ts , Chinese, or any bi guys . Our choice Ps , wouldnt mind a fit hung handsome caramel guy x" Fabs has the ability to filter your searches accordingly...I’m genuinely interested why you feel it’s ok to write “No ASIANS what so ever, just not our cuppa” or state that bi, TV/TS lovers are “rank.com” in your profile text? | |||
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"Our profile clearly states no ASIANS .. simple as that , we dont play with black guys either , nothing rasist towards any one but if you dont like ya simply dont like , just for the records we dont play with TVs, ts , Chinese, or any bi guys . Our choice Ps , wouldnt mind a fit hung handsome caramel guy x" Of course its your choice. But can't you just delete messages from people you don't like? Do you have to say it, in capital letters, on your profile? | |||
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""Life is like a box of chocolates" " There’s always one leftover in the box that no one wants ? | |||
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"Mate, my fanny is not an equal opportunities entity. Until there is legislation governing who we can and cannot choose to fuck, what gets her moist is an entirely private matter between her and the mass of neurons in the bone box at the top of my neck and while for me, it's more complex than degrees of melanin, for some it's more straightforward and you obviously don't make the cut... small hint though...whingers and foot stampers don't do it for me or many here, no matter what the hue of their complexion...just saying This is true but for the sake of total clarity are you saying it’s ok for people to be racist on their profiles? " People will put whatever they choose to do so on their profiles. If they're not allowed to be overt, they'll find a coded way of putting it like the tedious 420 brigade who think they're smart...I see it as a way of filtering out the mouth breathers. Is it okay? no. Is it useful? abso-fucking-lutely | |||
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"Mate, my fanny is not an equal opportunities entity. Until there is legislation governing who we can and cannot choose to fuck, what gets her moist is an entirely private matter between her and the mass of neurons in the bone box at the top of my neck and while for me, it's more complex than degrees of melanin, for some it's more straightforward and you obviously don't make the cut... small hint though...whingers and foot stampers don't do it for me or many here, no matter what the hue of their complexion...just saying This is true but for the sake of total clarity are you saying it’s ok for people to be racist on their profiles? People will put whatever they choose to do so on their profiles. If they're not allowed to be overt, they'll find a coded way of putting it like the tedious 420 brigade who think they're smart...I see it as a way of filtering out the mouth breathers. Is it okay? no. Is it useful? abso-fucking-lutely" I totally appreciate people currently put whatever they choose on their profiles, that’s sort of my point, my original question was “Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy?”. | |||
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"It’s not racist to have a sexual preference “When you reduce human beings to characteristics, often stereotypical of their race, ethnicity, or culture, you’re objectifying them to fulfill your own personal wishes and expectations for how they should look and/or behave.” Quotation about Racial Fetishism from a very interesting article; Is It Racist to Have a Racial Dating Preference? By Kyndall Cunningham" Do you think some ppl here actually read books or have that acumen to understand racial fetishism? The word here is " PREFERENCE" | |||
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"lmao, the racism is so embedded in you that you can’t even see the issue in denouncing a whole group of people based on the colour of their skin..." but generally, nobody is denouncing anyone...they just aren't looking to fuck them...it may very well have racist undertones or even overtones, but you'd have a real job to sanction them for it...how do you propose to do that? There is no law against withholding sexual contact from any of the people with protected characteristics | |||
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"It’s not racist to have a sexual preference “When you reduce human beings to characteristics, often stereotypical of their race, ethnicity, or culture, you’re objectifying them to fulfill your own personal wishes and expectations for how they should look and/or behave.” Quotation about Racial Fetishism from a very interesting article; Is It Racist to Have a Racial Dating Preference? By Kyndall Cunningham Do you think some ppl here actually read books or have that acumen to understand racial fetishism? The word here is " PREFERENCE" " I wouldn’t want to make any generalised assumptions about people on here. You say....The word here is " PREFERENCE"....then you’re in luck as I discussed ‘preference’ in a reply above | |||
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"FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; Depends how it's wrote on their profiles... Its not inciting racism if its a preference! Indeed they aren’t ‘inciting racism’ but that’s not the question I posted...I simply asked if it was against Fab’s Acceptable Use Policy....which references publishing racist content...it doesn’t say “don’t incite racism” " Well how specific have you been about the content with those profiles in particular? I can't see anything quoted in this thread, so far, after you answering my message! It's only your point of view until we witness it and make our own mind up!!! Like I said, depends how they've wrote it! Hope you've reported these accounts, if it means that much to you. Admin can't read every bloody profile. Christ you aren't clearly thinking straight here! | |||
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"FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; Depends how it's wrote on their profiles... Its not inciting racism if its a preference! Indeed they aren’t ‘inciting racism’ but that’s not the question I posted...I simply asked if it was against Fab’s Acceptable Use Policy....which references publishing racist content...it doesn’t say “don’t incite racism” Well how specific have you been about the content with those profiles in particular? I can't see anything quoted in this thread, so far, after you answering my message! It's only your point of view until we witness it and make our own mind up!!! Like I said, depends how they've wrote it! Hope you've reported these accounts, if it means that much to you. Admin can't read every bloody profile. Christ you aren't clearly thinking straight here! " Strange you must have missed the comments after my reply to you that included the terms; “No ASIANS what so ever, just not our cuppa” or that bi, TV/TS lovers are “rank.com” Here are a selection of the comments from the profiles that were actively showing when I posted my original question (copied again below for clarity): No Asians or coloured Black Only Interested in bbc’s for group fun *******Black Men Only Please******* For me, Bbc every time We love to share multiple bbc together FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; | |||
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"I think the issue with OP's comments is that they start in a contentious manner. Subjects like this should be discussed coolly and with genuine reflection. The point is that this is a simple but at the same time complex subject that gets done to death on this site. Also by throwing fetish into the mix makes it simpler but again complex. To explain further. Fetish is simple, by definition it is usually something considered socially unacceptable or strange in the vanilla world. So by definition racial fetishism is unacceptable in the vanilla world. However people who do fetish have carve outs on behaviour along the lines of consent, lack of abuse etc. So simply vanilla people don't link a kink, but kinky people don't care provided it meets the mentioned criteria. The complexity is the why people have a kink. I had a long and acrimonious argument on FL with someone about race play, which I hate. But I defend someone's kinky right to do race play. This then hinges into racial preferences on Fab. The simple answer as has been pointed is that every one has preferences. No-one should tell an individual who is an adult and of sound mind who they can or cannot sleep with period. Others have pointed out all the permutationsin regard to other types of preferences. What I said above is the fundemental rule. However, when it comes to race I think most people get it wrong. Because of societal entitlement and a failure to take into account cultural and historical context some preferences are actually prejudices. I would say irrational prejudices are a bad. I also think seeing the following preferences or prejudice as the same i.e. a preference or prejudice for black men by white women or a preference or prejudice for white men by white women, or a preference for black women by white men and black women liking white men. Culturally and historically and personal history wise to see these as the same is to compare apples, pears, bananas and plums. As an example un the West it has always seen as wrong until relatively recently for a white women to go out with a black man. Whereas this has not been the case for white relationships. People are really shy to delve into the subconscious reasons for their preferences. But at the end of the day individuals are entitled to make their choices on their own preferences. " Once again I have replied to someone else previously about preference. Have your preferences and debate the nuances of social meaning all you like..... Once again my original post just asks don’t these types of comments breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? Btw I didn’t write the Fabs Acceptable Use policy but WE ALL AGREED to them when we created our accounts | |||
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"It’s not racist to have a sexual preference" It probably depends how the preference is expressed publicly. | |||
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"I think the issue with OP's comments is that they start in a contentious manner. Subjects like this should be discussed coolly and with genuine reflection. The point is that this is a simple but at the same time complex subject that gets done to death on this site. Also by throwing fetish into the mix makes it simpler but again complex. To explain further. Fetish is simple, by definition it is usually something considered socially unacceptable or strange in the vanilla world. So by definition racial fetishism is unacceptable in the vanilla world. However people who do fetish have carve outs on behaviour along the lines of consent, lack of abuse etc. So simply vanilla people don't link a kink, but kinky people don't care provided it meets the mentioned criteria. The complexity is the why people have a kink. I had a long and acrimonious argument on FL with someone about race play, which I hate. But I defend someone's kinky right to do race play. This then hinges into racial preferences on Fab. The simple answer as has been pointed is that every one has preferences. No-one should tell an individual who is an adult and of sound mind who they can or cannot sleep with period. Others have pointed out all the permutationsin regard to other types of preferences. What I said above is the fundemental rule. However, when it comes to race I think most people get it wrong. Because of societal entitlement and a failure to take into account cultural and historical context some preferences are actually prejudices. I would say irrational prejudices are a bad. I also think seeing the following preferences or prejudice as the same i.e. a preference or prejudice for black men by white women or a preference or prejudice for white men by white women, or a preference for black women by white men and black women liking white men. Culturally and historically and personal history wise to see these as the same is to compare apples, pears, bananas and plums. As an example un the West it has always seen as wrong until relatively recently for a white women to go out with a black man. Whereas this has not been the case for white relationships. People are really shy to delve into the subconscious reasons for their preferences. But at the end of the day individuals are entitled to make their choices on their own preferences. " Great post. I saw a recent post where the male of a couple wanted to see his wife get 'blacked'. What's wrong with just saying he & his wife would like to experience an interracial encounter?! With the best will in world it's hard to imagine this man regards black people as just normal human beings and his equal. | |||
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"FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; Depends how it's wrote on their profiles... Its not inciting racism if its a preference! Indeed they aren’t ‘inciting racism’ but that’s not the question I posted...I simply asked if it was against Fab’s Acceptable Use Policy....which references publishing racist content...it doesn’t say “don’t incite racism” Well how specific have you been about the content with those profiles in particular? I can't see anything quoted in this thread, so far, after you answering my message! It's only your point of view until we witness it and make our own mind up!!! Like I said, depends how they've wrote it! Hope you've reported these accounts, if it means that much to you. Admin can't read every bloody profile. Christ you aren't clearly thinking straight here! Strange you must have missed the comments after my reply to you that included the terms; “No ASIANS what so ever, just not our cuppa” or that bi, TV/TS lovers are “rank.com” Here are a selection of the comments from the profiles that were actively showing when I posted my original question (copied again below for clarity): No Asians or coloured Black Only Interested in bbc’s for group fun *******Black Men Only Please******* For me, Bbc every time We love to share multiple bbc together FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; " Thank you for humouring me and making it clearer, not just for me but others who have joined the thread much later... So I take it you haven't reported those you find offensive to Admin? Or is it just a moaning thread to teach those the rules. I'm yet to figure why you would express this concern on the forum. | |||
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"OP your profile says you're not looking for single men. By your logic that's sexist." Actually that’s a comment automatically inserted by Fabs when you don’t select single men in the ‘Looking For’ section. I didn’t physically type those words on my profile or even select an option to exclude ‘single guys’...but feel free to speak to Fabs about that point | |||
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"The fact is, Fab admin can't control what people type, it's up to us as members to report any concerns - so they can make adjustments, if needs be.... This isn't the right way to go about making change! " The whole legal issue of whether or not Fabs as an online platform is a publisher or just a tech company is quite confused/fluid at the moment. But I think it’s quite telling that Fabs has included that type of terminology in it’s acceptable use policy. But I do wholeheartedly agree that members should also report these things. Unfortunately what most/majority (but thankfully not all) of replies to these topic have shown is that most people on here don’t even think it’s an issue to write these sort of things on their profiles. Without a public debate to help highlight the issue how do you expect change to happen.....hence my original question/post | |||
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"FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; Depends how it's wrote on their profiles... Its not inciting racism if its a preference! Indeed they aren’t ‘inciting racism’ but that’s not the question I posted...I simply asked if it was against Fab’s Acceptable Use Policy....which references publishing racist content...it doesn’t say “don’t incite racism” Well how specific have you been about the content with those profiles in particular? I can't see anything quoted in this thread, so far, after you answering my message! It's only your point of view until we witness it and make our own mind up!!! Like I said, depends how they've wrote it! Hope you've reported these accounts, if it means that much to you. Admin can't read every bloody profile. Christ you aren't clearly thinking straight here! Strange you must have missed the comments after my reply to you that included the terms; “No ASIANS what so ever, just not our cuppa” or that bi, TV/TS lovers are “rank.com” Here are a selection of the comments from the profiles that were actively showing when I posted my original question (copied again below for clarity): No Asians or coloured Black Only Interested in bbc’s for group fun *******Black Men Only Please******* For me, Bbc every time We love to share multiple bbc together FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; Thank you for humouring me and making it clearer, not just for me but others who have joined the thread much later... So I take it you haven't reported those you find offensive to Admin? Or is it just a moaning thread to teach those the rules. I'm yet to figure why you would express this concern on the forum. " Sorry I thought this was the ‘FabSwingers.com Site Feedback’ section of the forum.. | |||
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"FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; Depends how it's wrote on their profiles... Its not inciting racism if its a preference! Indeed they aren’t ‘inciting racism’ but that’s not the question I posted...I simply asked if it was against Fab’s Acceptable Use Policy....which references publishing racist content...it doesn’t say “don’t incite racism” Well how specific have you been about the content with those profiles in particular? I can't see anything quoted in this thread, so far, after you answering my message! It's only your point of view until we witness it and make our own mind up!!! Like I said, depends how they've wrote it! Hope you've reported these accounts, if it means that much to you. Admin can't read every bloody profile. Christ you aren't clearly thinking straight here! Strange you must have missed the comments after my reply to you that included the terms; “No ASIANS what so ever, just not our cuppa” or that bi, TV/TS lovers are “rank.com” Here are a selection of the comments from the profiles that were actively showing when I posted my original question (copied again below for clarity): No Asians or coloured Black Only Interested in bbc’s for group fun *******Black Men Only Please******* For me, Bbc every time We love to share multiple bbc together FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; Thank you for humouring me and making it clearer, not just for me but others who have joined the thread much later... So I take it you haven't reported those you find offensive to Admin? Or is it just a moaning thread to teach those the rules. I'm yet to figure why you would express this concern on the forum. " I thought this was the ‘FabSwingers.com Site Feedback’ section of the forum......sorry I must be confused | |||
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"OP your profile says you're not looking for single men. By your logic that's sexist. Actually that’s a comment automatically inserted by Fabs when you don’t select single men in the ‘Looking For’ section. I didn’t physically type those words on my profile or even select an option to exclude ‘single guys’...but feel free to speak to Fabs about that point " Except You selected to; not allow single men accounts, to be able to message you. I am not currently using the message filters toward single men, so my profile does not show that | |||
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"People put what they are looking for in their profiles and the rest of us can decide whether we want to message , meet , socialise or play with the member. Anything written in a profile is therefore a clue as to whether I am likely to be attracted to them. Consequently I see many profiles stating racial choices and/or promoting stereotypes but it is just their preference however much the words may make me wince." Exactly this if you don't fit someone's preference really and truly you shouldn't even waste your time messaging them, there's plenty more fish in the sea. | |||
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"People put what they are looking for in their profiles and the rest of us can decide whether we want to message , meet , socialise or play with the member. Anything written in a profile is therefore a clue as to whether I am likely to be attracted to them. Consequently I see many profiles stating racial choices and/or promoting stereotypes but it is just their preference however much the words may make me wince." Once again my original post just asks don’t these types of comments breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? | |||
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"OP your profile says you're not looking for single men. By your logic that's sexist. Actually that’s a comment automatically inserted by Fabs when you don’t select single men in the ‘Looking For’ section. I didn’t physically type those words on my profile or even select an option to exclude ‘single guys’...but feel free to speak to Fabs about that point Except You selected to; not allow single men accounts, to be able to message you. I am not currently using the message filters toward single men, so my profile does not show that " I have many filters on my emails but I don’t consciously write the exclusions to those filters all over my profile text | |||
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"Anything you have concerns about being racist report it And do as I and many others do, block " It seems the vast majority of people don’t even think these types of comments are wrong...? I just asked a question and everyone seems to want to question why I asked the question rather than answer the bloody question...is it against the Acceptable Use Policy! (Unfortunately there isn’t a pulling hair out emoji or I would insert at this point) | |||
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"It’s not racist to have a sexual preference “When you reduce human beings to characteristics, often stereotypical of their race, ethnicity, or culture, you’re objectifying them to fulfill your own personal wishes and expectations for how they should look and/or behave.” Quotation about Racial Fetishism from a very interesting article; Is It Racist to Have a Racial Dating Preference? By Kyndall Cunningham Do you think some ppl here actually read books or have that acumen to understand racial fetishism? The word here is " PREFERENCE" I wouldn’t want to make any generalised assumptions about people on here. You say....The word here is " PREFERENCE"....then you’re in luck as I discussed ‘preference’ in a reply above" What I meant that all these race choices are covered under preferences. I got your point and always hate to read " No Asians " on people's profiles. Very uncool. It's like singling out an entire race on Fab. Imagine someone saying " No Jews " on their profile ? Targeting one single race as sexual preference is wrong ,especially mentioning it in profile . People can always block Asians as and when they approach . | |||
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"Anything you have concerns about being racist report it And do as I and many others do, block It seems the vast majority of people don’t even think these types of comments are wrong...? I just asked a question and everyone seems to want to question why I asked the question rather than answer the bloody question...is it against the Acceptable Use Policy! (Unfortunately there isn’t a pulling hair out emoji or I would insert at this point)" If you think it is then report the profile. We can't do it for you! | |||
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"Anything you have concerns about being racist report it And do as I and many others do, block It seems the vast majority of people don’t even think these types of comments are wrong...? I just asked a question and everyone seems to want to question why I asked the question rather than answer the bloody question...is it against the Acceptable Use Policy! (Unfortunately there isn’t a pulling hair out emoji or I would insert at this point) If you think it is then report the profile. We can't do it for you! " Well actually you could all report these types of comments but it seems that the vast majority don’t even think they are racist comments. Why should it just be up to me to do it? | |||
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"I can understand people don't want to play with Asians,based on their past experience or just preference but mentioning it in bold on their profile gives rise to stereotyping the whole race. " Personally I will disagree with your first comment as I can’t understand why people wouldn’t want to play with ‘Asians’ as I’ve played with numerous beautiful and sexy people of whom some might use that same word to describe. But your second point in your reply is exactly the crux of my reply to the preference point versus taking the actual time out to explicitly write those words into your profile text. | |||
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"FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; Depends how it's wrote on their profiles... Its not inciting racism if its a preference! Indeed they aren’t ‘inciting racism’ but that’s not the question I posted...I simply asked if it was against Fab’s Acceptable Use Policy....which references publishing racist content...it doesn’t say “don’t incite racism” Well how specific have you been about the content with those profiles in particular? I can't see anything quoted in this thread, so far, after you answering my message! It's only your point of view until we witness it and make our own mind up!!! Like I said, depends how they've wrote it! Hope you've reported these accounts, if it means that much to you. Admin can't read every bloody profile. Christ you aren't clearly thinking straight here! Strange you must have missed the comments after my reply to you that included the terms; “No ASIANS what so ever, just not our cuppa” or that bi, TV/TS lovers are “rank.com” Here are a selection of the comments from the profiles that were actively showing when I posted my original question (copied again below for clarity): No Asians or coloured Black Only Interested in bbc’s for group fun *******Black Men Only Please******* For me, Bbc every time We love to share multiple bbc together FACT: Over 20% of the single female profiles currently showing on the Meet Today option have racial fetishism comments on their status updates or their profiles. Doesn’t this breach Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? You agree that you will not in connection with the Service: b) publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which: * is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, RACIST, hateful, discriminatory, misleading, abusive or deceptive; Thank you for humouring me and making it clearer, not just for me but others who have joined the thread much later... So I take it you haven't reported those you find offensive to Admin? Or is it just a moaning thread to teach those the rules. I'm yet to figure why you would express this concern on the forum. Sorry I thought this was the ‘FabSwingers.com Site Feedback’ section of the forum.." So my question is still not answered. Those people who can make the change, you haven't contacted as of yet, this was your first 'port of call' before making any complaint about your issue? The forums doesn't guarantee to change those minds! As you've already wrote the majority on this thread don't see a problem! | |||
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"Anything you have concerns about being racist report it And do as I and many others do, block It seems the vast majority of people don’t even think these types of comments are wrong...? I just asked a question and everyone seems to want to question why I asked the question rather than answer the bloody question...is it against the Acceptable Use Policy! (Unfortunately there isn’t a pulling hair out emoji or I would insert at this point) If you think it is then report the profile. We can't do it for you! Well actually you could all report these types of comments but it seems that the vast majority don’t even think they are racist comments. Why should it just be up to me to do it? " Well it's important to you. Your complaint is discreet - between you and Admin. Maybe after all this fuss. It's probably been brought to the attention to a moderator who's now highlighted it to Admin. Maybe somebody has saved you the trouble... | |||
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"Anything you have concerns about being racist report it And do as I and many others do, block It seems the vast majority of people don’t even think these types of comments are wrong...? I just asked a question and everyone seems to want to question why I asked the question rather than answer the bloody question...is it against the Acceptable Use Policy! (Unfortunately there isn’t a pulling hair out emoji or I would insert at this point) If you think it is then report the profile. We can't do it for you! Well actually you could all report these types of comments but it seems that the vast majority don’t even think they are racist comments. Why should it just be up to me to do it? Well it's important to you. Your complaint is discreet - between you and Admin. Maybe after all this fuss. It's probably been brought to the attention to a moderator who's now highlighted it to Admin. Maybe somebody has saved you the trouble... " Seriously did you just type...”Maybe after all this fuss”...are you for real? You want to marginalise a discussion about racism as a ‘fuss’? | |||
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"Anything you have concerns about being racist report it And do as I and many others do, block It seems the vast majority of people don’t even think these types of comments are wrong...? I just asked a question and everyone seems to want to question why I asked the question rather than answer the bloody question...is it against the Acceptable Use Policy! (Unfortunately there isn’t a pulling hair out emoji or I would insert at this point) If you think it is then report the profile. We can't do it for you! Well actually you could all report these types of comments but it seems that the vast majority don’t even think they are racist comments. Why should it just be up to me to do it? Well it's important to you. Your complaint is discreet - between you and Admin. Maybe after all this fuss. It's probably been brought to the attention to a moderator who's now highlighted it to Admin. Maybe somebody has saved you the trouble... Seriously did you just type...”Maybe after all this fuss”...are you for real? You want to marginalise a discussion about racism as a ‘fuss’? " It is certainly an interesting discussion to have. I think the line between acceptable and unacceptable comes down to language used. Phrases like rank and unnecessary capitalisation certainly smacks of inappropriate. As with most things sensitivity and thought can mitigate much. Preference in my mind is just that. In and of itself it's not racist or anything else-ist. The way the preference is expressed is the key. But as I said an interesting discussion | |||
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"Anything you have concerns about being racist report it And do as I and many others do, block It seems the vast majority of people don’t even think these types of comments are wrong...? I just asked a question and everyone seems to want to question why I asked the question rather than answer the bloody question...is it against the Acceptable Use Policy! (Unfortunately there isn’t a pulling hair out emoji or I would insert at this point) If you think it is then report the profile. We can't do it for you! Well actually you could all report these types of comments but it seems that the vast majority don’t even think they are racist comments. Why should it just be up to me to do it? Well it's important to you. Your complaint is discreet - between you and Admin. Maybe after all this fuss. It's probably been brought to the attention to a moderator who's now highlighted it to Admin. Maybe somebody has saved you the trouble... Seriously did you just type...”Maybe after all this fuss”...are you for real? You want to marginalise a discussion about racism as a ‘fuss’? " Well you've hardly taken it seriously yourself haha! Like I've said in a pm, I've let Admin know of your profile issues, and maybe they can take it seriously and make a change. I don't think there's any chance members will delete what they've wrote, just because you've put it in a thread. I know this discussion has spurred me on to write on my profile. 'only looking for white guys' Thanks for your responses. Much appreciated... | |||
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"Anything you have concerns about being racist report it And do as I and many others do, block It seems the vast majority of people don’t even think these types of comments are wrong...? I just asked a question and everyone seems to want to question why I asked the question rather than answer the bloody question...is it against the Acceptable Use Policy! (Unfortunately there isn’t a pulling hair out emoji or I would insert at this point) If you think it is then report the profile. We can't do it for you! Well actually you could all report these types of comments but it seems that the vast majority don’t even think they are racist comments. Why should it just be up to me to do it? Well it's important to you. Your complaint is discreet - between you and Admin. Maybe after all this fuss. It's probably been brought to the attention to a moderator who's now highlighted it to Admin. Maybe somebody has saved you the trouble... Seriously did you just type...”Maybe after all this fuss”...are you for real? You want to marginalise a discussion about racism as a ‘fuss’? " but most of the quotes you seem to take issue with above could be considered to be positive discrimination...I'm unsure on whose behalf you seem to be offended, those included or those excluded...yourself? others? | |||
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" I know this discussion has spurred me on to write on my profile. 'only looking for white guys' Thanks for your responses. Much appreciated... " Prefer this , sounds more respectful than writing No Asians or No Blacks. | |||
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"Trying to lawyer your way into someone’s pants is never gonna work bud. Take the L and move on, you’re embarrassing yourself. I asked a question about whether having racial fetishism comments on profiles is against Fabs Acceptable Use policy. Yet you think I’m trying to get my way into someone’s pants...strange thought process but you’re entitled to your opinion. So why ask here, why not simply mail via the contat option and ask those responsible for said policy? I thought it was a subject matter worth discussion but its ok if you don’t think the same." I think it's best if you got a legal opinion on this question!! No other answer is going to satisfy you. | |||
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"Trying to lawyer your way into someone’s pants is never gonna work bud. Take the L and move on, you’re embarrassing yourself. I asked a question about whether having racial fetishism comments on profiles is against Fabs Acceptable Use policy. Yet you think I’m trying to get my way into someone’s pants...strange thought process but you’re entitled to your opinion. So why ask here, why not simply mail via the contat option and ask those responsible for said policy? I thought it was a subject matter worth discussion but its ok if you don’t think the same." You are correct. We don't think the same. | |||
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"Anything you have concerns about being racist report it And do as I and many others do, block It seems the vast majority of people don’t even think these types of comments are wrong...? I just asked a question and everyone seems to want to question why I asked the question rather than answer the bloody question...is it against the Acceptable Use Policy! (Unfortunately there isn’t a pulling hair out emoji or I would insert at this point) If you think it is then report the profile. We can't do it for you! Well actually you could all report these types of comments but it seems that the vast majority don’t even think they are racist comments. Why should it just be up to me to do it? Well it's important to you. Your complaint is discreet - between you and Admin. Maybe after all this fuss. It's probably been brought to the attention to a moderator who's now highlighted it to Admin. Maybe somebody has saved you the trouble... Seriously did you just type...”Maybe after all this fuss”...are you for real? You want to marginalise a discussion about racism as a ‘fuss’? but most of the quotes you seem to take issue with above could be considered to be positive discrimination...I'm unsure on whose behalf you seem to be offended, those included or those excluded...yourself? others? " Well that’s your opinion which you’re perfectly entitled to hold but I’d then ask you again to confirm for clarity do you think it’s ok for people to put racist comments on their profile? And back again to my original question are these comments in breach of Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? | |||
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"Trying to lawyer your way into someone’s pants is never gonna work bud. Take the L and move on, you’re embarrassing yourself. I asked a question about whether having racial fetishism comments on profiles is against Fabs Acceptable Use policy. Yet you think I’m trying to get my way into someone’s pants...strange thought process but you’re entitled to your opinion. So why ask here, why not simply mail via the contat option and ask those responsible for said policy? I thought it was a subject matter worth discussion but its ok if you don’t think the same. I think it's best if you got a legal opinion on this question!! No other answer is going to satisfy you. " Ironically no one has actually answered my original question is it against Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? Perhaps you might like to answer the question? | |||
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"Anything you have concerns about being racist report it And do as I and many others do, block It seems the vast majority of people don’t even think these types of comments are wrong...? I just asked a question and everyone seems to want to question why I asked the question rather than answer the bloody question...is it against the Acceptable Use Policy! (Unfortunately there isn’t a pulling hair out emoji or I would insert at this point) If you think it is then report the profile. We can't do it for you! Well actually you could all report these types of comments but it seems that the vast majority don’t even think they are racist comments. Why should it just be up to me to do it? Well it's important to you. Your complaint is discreet - between you and Admin. Maybe after all this fuss. It's probably been brought to the attention to a moderator who's now highlighted it to Admin. Maybe somebody has saved you the trouble... Seriously did you just type...”Maybe after all this fuss”...are you for real? You want to marginalise a discussion about racism as a ‘fuss’? but most of the quotes you seem to take issue with above could be considered to be positive discrimination...I'm unsure on whose behalf you seem to be offended, those included or those excluded...yourself? others? Well that’s your opinion which you’re perfectly entitled to hold but I’d then ask you again to confirm for clarity do you think it’s ok for people to put racist comments on their profile? And back again to my original question are these comments in breach of Fabs Acceptable Use Policy? " As you have clearly stated above "well that's your opinion which you're perfect entitled to hold" I would suggest you leave it in the hands of fab admin to assess your complaint. | |||
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