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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Dear Aunty Fab,

I really enjoy many things about the Fab site, but I really don’t understand why trans people and TVs/cross-dressers continue to be lumped together in one massive bundle. Surely it can’t be too hard to offer two categories of fabster : TV/CD and trans? For a sex site that presumably wants to welcome as many users as possible it seems a remarkably old-fashioned way of grouping people.

Why the reluctance to split this category into a couple of more user-friendly ones?

Lily

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Dear Aunty Fab,

I really enjoy many things about the Fab site, but I really don’t understand why trans people and TVs/cross-dressers continue to be lumped together in one massive bundle. Surely it can’t be too hard to offer two categories of fabster : TV/CD and trans? For a sex site that presumably wants to welcome as many users as possible it seems a remarkably old-fashioned way of grouping people.

Why the reluctance to split this category into a couple of more user-friendly ones?

Lily

"

Because it would never stop.

I identify as gender fluid. Where's mine?

I identify as pangender. Where's mine?

Im intersex, where's mine.

Im vegan, where's mine?

Etc etc.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

There have been dozens of threads about this already. The main problem is which category someone in would have to be self policed and as demonstrated in pretty much all threads everyone has a different idea of who should and shouldn't be in a category. Luckily the site provides the tools to self identify in your profile. Quite a few trans women on here are categorised as female which i totally agree with, but i understand why so wouldn't.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"Dear Aunty Fab,

I really enjoy many things about the Fab site, but I really don’t understand why trans people and TVs/cross-dressers continue to be lumped together in one massive bundle. Surely it can’t be too hard to offer two categories of fabster : TV/CD and trans? For a sex site that presumably wants to welcome as many users as possible it seems a remarkably old-fashioned way of grouping people.

Why the reluctance to split this category into a couple of more user-friendly ones?

Lily

Because it would never stop.

I identify as gender fluid. Where's mine?

I identify as pangender. Where's mine?

Im intersex, where's mine.

Im vegan, where's mine?

Etc etc. "

exactly this. And why break up what is already a minority group anyway. Its not rocket science. I have no complaints sharing a group. And why are people so lazy they need everything spelling out for them. This,m same old question is getting rather boring

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

I think pics help choosing someone who is more what you are looking for , don't need the segregation thank you

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

I'm TS and certainly not a tv or xdresser!!!!! I suppose CLEAR body and face pictures help. I'm proud of my journey and been through a lot to enable me to live as a trans woman 24/7. So don't label me as something I'm cleary not.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

This type of thread gets right up my nose. What makes a TS so special. It was OK pre op to share, this group so why think you deserve special treatment now.if you want to stand out above the rest of us, forget it. This is a minority catagory anyway. Dissecting it even more will only want others to have their own little, special group. Why stop there. No keep this group as it is and I'm sorry all you lovely TS girls, if it's not for you move over into the female group. No one on here is any better than anyone else and if you think that I can certainly knock you down a peg or two.For gods sake live and learn to share. Is it that hard to explain what you are to people who contact you or does laziness come into it. These threads are getting ridiculous, It's not rocket science people.

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By *adieTightsTV/TS
over a year ago

Doncaster


"I think pics help choosing someone who is more what you are looking for , don't need the segregation thank you "

Totally agree ????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm TS and certainly not a tv or xdresser!!!!! I suppose CLEAR body and face pictures help. I'm proud of my journey and been through a lot to enable me to live as a trans woman 24/7. So don't label me as something I'm cleary not."

I totally agree with you chanel. I am TS just starting my journey and dont like that we are always grouped in with tv and cd; no disrespect to tv or CDs.

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London

there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl"

Which is?

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?"

you dont know?

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?"

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think."

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?"

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think."

I think its more than that yes

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I like to play with t girls as they think like men! Filthy bitches!

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes "

So what is the difference then?

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?"

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one"

Go for it

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one"

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious."

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone"

Sounds about right, a guy whose taken it on a more of a lifestyle choice than a hobby.

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

Sounds about right, a guy whose taken it on a more of a lifestyle choice than a hobby. "

thats where im going with it

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone"

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

Sounds about right, a guy whose taken it on a more of a lifestyle choice than a hobby.

thats where im going with it "

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc. "

I would say that if i started to wear ladies cloths for sex I could be classed as a CD but not as a tgirl

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc. "

Of course they want to..

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc.

I would say that if i started to wear ladies cloths for sex I could be classed as a CD but not as a tgirl"

What if you dress more and more and you look "convincing" do you become a tgirl.

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc.

I would say that if i started to wear ladies cloths for sex I could be classed as a CD but not as a tgirl

What if you dress more and more and you look "convincing" do you become a tgirl."

if you dress more and more and invest on looking more and more female and talk and act like a female, then im sure thats possible

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc.

I would say that if i started to wear ladies cloths for sex I could be classed as a CD but not as a tgirl

What if you dress more and more and you look "convincing" do you become a tgirl.

if you dress more and more and invest on looking more and more female and talk and act like a female, then im sure thats possible "

So how would fab police the difference? By pictures?

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc.

I would say that if i started to wear ladies cloths for sex I could be classed as a CD but not as a tgirl

What if you dress more and more and you look "convincing" do you become a tgirl.

if you dress more and more and invest on looking more and more female and talk and act like a female, then im sure thats possible

So how would fab police the difference? By pictures? "

i think thats up the person, they should know what they are.

People are on here saying they are women but are men, guys pretending part of a couple when its just them

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc.

I would say that if i started to wear ladies cloths for sex I could be classed as a CD but not as a tgirl

What if you dress more and more and you look "convincing" do you become a tgirl.

if you dress more and more and invest on looking more and more female and talk and act like a female, then im sure thats possible

So how would fab police the difference? By pictures?

i think thats up the person, they should know what they are.

People are on here saying they are women but are men, guys pretending part of a couple when its just them"

So self policed. Won't help guys looking will it. People can self identify already on their profile.

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc.

I would say that if i started to wear ladies cloths for sex I could be classed as a CD but not as a tgirl

What if you dress more and more and you look "convincing" do you become a tgirl.

if you dress more and more and invest on looking more and more female and talk and act like a female, then im sure thats possible

So how would fab police the difference? By pictures?

i think thats up the person, they should know what they are.

People are on here saying they are women but are men, guys pretending part of a couple when its just them

So self policed. Won't help guys looking will it. People can self identify already on their profile. "

it will help as most normal people would put themselves in the correct cat, plus its not to help the guys, the options would be so the person them self gets to feel like that are in the right category for who they are

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc.

I would say that if i started to wear ladies cloths for sex I could be classed as a CD but not as a tgirl

What if you dress more and more and you look "convincing" do you become a tgirl.

if you dress more and more and invest on looking more and more female and talk and act like a female, then im sure thats possible

So how would fab police the difference? By pictures?

i think thats up the person, they should know what they are.

People are on here saying they are women but are men, guys pretending part of a couple when its just them

So self policed. Won't help guys looking will it. People can self identify already on their profile.

it will help as most normal people would put themselves in the correct cat, plus its not to help the guys, the options would be so the person them self gets to feel like that are in the right category for who they are "

Most m to f transexuals will identify as female no matter how far they are physically. So they should identify as female surely not TS or tgirl. Quite a few transexuals on here are identified as female, with fabs blessing, even though some still have the genitals they were born with.

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc.

I would say that if i started to wear ladies cloths for sex I could be classed as a CD but not as a tgirl

What if you dress more and more and you look "convincing" do you become a tgirl.

if you dress more and more and invest on looking more and more female and talk and act like a female, then im sure thats possible

So how would fab police the difference? By pictures?

i think thats up the person, they should know what they are.

People are on here saying they are women but are men, guys pretending part of a couple when its just them

So self policed. Won't help guys looking will it. People can self identify already on their profile.

it will help as most normal people would put themselves in the correct cat, plus its not to help the guys, the options would be so the person them self gets to feel like that are in the right category for who they are

Most m to f transexuals will identify as female no matter how far they are physically. So they should identify as female surely not TS or tgirl. Quite a few transexuals on here are identified as female, with fabs blessing, even though some still have the genitals they were born with."

no they wouldnt all do that hence why we need the different cats, if you think CD,TV,TS and tgirls are all exactly the same then thats up to you, but i would imagine your view could offend

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think.

I think its more than that yes

So what is the difference then?

more than happy to tell you my opinion , which would have no intention to offend any one

I am certainly not offended genuinely curious.

ok when i see some one describe themselves as CD i see that as man who likes wearing underwear for sexual fun not necessarily in to wigs and make up and trying to pass. Where as Tgirls want to pass and do everything can to do so even to the point of getting breasts etc I hope this does not offend anyone

A lot of cd/tv do want to pass wear makeup and wigs etc.

I would say that if i started to wear ladies cloths for sex I could be classed as a CD but not as a tgirl

What if you dress more and more and you look "convincing" do you become a tgirl.

if you dress more and more and invest on looking more and more female and talk and act like a female, then im sure thats possible

So how would fab police the difference? By pictures?

i think thats up the person, they should know what they are.

People are on here saying they are women but are men, guys pretending part of a couple when its just them

So self policed. Won't help guys looking will it. People can self identify already on their profile.

it will help as most normal people would put themselves in the correct cat, plus its not to help the guys, the options would be so the person them self gets to feel like that are in the right category for who they are

Most m to f transexuals will identify as female no matter how far they are physically. So they should identify as female surely not TS or tgirl. Quite a few transexuals on here are identified as female, with fabs blessing, even though some still have the genitals they were born with.

no they wouldnt all do that hence why we need the different cats, if you think CD,TV,TS and tgirls are all exactly the same then thats up to you, but i would imagine your view could offend "

I don't think they are the same at all. Just think the difference is in their brain not on the outside.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There should be lots more categories for all sorts of things people just need to put it on their profile people who read will get it and those who don't read are not worth bothering with.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"This type of thread gets right up my nose. What makes a TS so special. It was OK pre op to share, this group so why think you deserve special treatment now.if you want to stand out above the rest of us, forget it. This is a minority catagory anyway. Dissecting it even more will only want others to have their own little, special group. Why stop there. No keep this group as it is and I'm sorry all you lovely TS girls, if it's not for you move over into the female group. No one on here is any better than anyone else and if you think that I can certainly knock you down a peg or two.For gods sake live and learn to share. Is it that hard to explain what you are to people who contact you or does laziness come into it. These threads are getting ridiculous, It's not rocket science people. "

Why is it every time this comes up you seem to get personally offended by the idea and always seem to go on as if every transgender person thinks they're somehow better, which no proof I have ever seen.

It should be a separate category because they are women, but by using a female profile it could cause problems with other women and men that may take issue with the fact someone not genetically born into that sex is listing themselves as such.

I'm a lifelong transvestite, I have other transvestite, crossdresser and transgender friends and I can firmly say that they would all agree that there is a vast difference between the former 2 and the latter and frankly it's fairly offensive to lump someone who's been born in the wrong body and struggled to reach a point in their life where they are happy with Bob from down the pub who wears his wife's underwear

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"This type of thread gets right up my nose. What makes a TS so special. It was OK pre op to share, this group so why think you deserve special treatment now.if you want to stand out above the rest of us, forget it. This is a minority catagory anyway. Dissecting it even more will only want others to have their own little, special group. Why stop there. No keep this group as it is and I'm sorry all you lovely TS girls, if it's not for you move over into the female group. No one on here is any better than anyone else and if you think that I can certainly knock you down a peg or two.For gods sake live and learn to share. Is it that hard to explain what you are to people who contact you or does laziness come into it. These threads are getting ridiculous, It's not rocket science people.

Why is it every time this comes up you seem to get personally offended by the idea and always seem to go on as if every transgender person thinks they're somehow better, which no proof I have ever seen.

It should be a separate category because they are women, but by using a female profile it could cause problems with other women and men that may take issue with the fact someone not genetically born into that sex is listing themselves as such.

I'm a lifelong transvestite, I have other transvestite, crossdresser and transgender friends and I can firmly say that they would all agree that there is a vast difference between the former 2 and the latter and frankly it's fairly offensive to lump someone who's been born in the wrong body and struggled to reach a point in their life where they are happy with Bob from down the pub who wears his wife's underwear"

this is exactly what i was saying, or trying to

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire


"This type of thread gets right up my nose. What makes a TS so special. It was OK pre op to share, this group so why think you deserve special treatment now.if you want to stand out above the rest of us, forget it. This is a minority catagory anyway. Dissecting it even more will only want others to have their own little, special group. Why stop there. No keep this group as it is and I'm sorry all you lovely TS girls, if it's not for you move over into the female group. No one on here is any better than anyone else and if you think that I can certainly knock you down a peg or two.For gods sake live and learn to share. Is it that hard to explain what you are to people who contact you or does laziness come into it. These threads are getting ridiculous, It's not rocket science people.

Why is it every time this comes up you seem to get personally offended by the idea and always seem to go on as if every transgender person thinks they're somehow better, which no proof I have ever seen.

It should be a separate category because they are women, but by using a female profile it could cause problems with other women and men that may take issue with the fact someone not genetically born into that sex is listing themselves as such.

I'm a lifelong transvestite, I have other transvestite, crossdresser and transgender friends and I can firmly say that they would all agree that there is a vast difference between the former 2 and the latter and frankly it's fairly offensive to lump someone who's been born in the wrong body and struggled to reach a point in their life where they are happy with Bob from down the pub who wears his wife's underwear"

One of the best arguments on here I've read. I'm so on the fence it's making my arse bleed over this topic.

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"This type of thread gets right up my nose. What makes a TS so special. It was OK pre op to share, this group so why think you deserve special treatment now.if you want to stand out above the rest of us, forget it. This is a minority catagory anyway. Dissecting it even more will only want others to have their own little, special group. Why stop there. No keep this group as it is and I'm sorry all you lovely TS girls, if it's not for you move over into the female group. No one on here is any better than anyone else and if you think that I can certainly knock you down a peg or two.For gods sake live and learn to share. Is it that hard to explain what you are to people who contact you or does laziness come into it. These threads are getting ridiculous, It's not rocket science people.

Why is it every time this comes up you seem to get personally offended by the idea and always seem to go on as if every transgender person thinks they're somehow better, which no proof I have ever seen.

It should be a separate category because they are women, but by using a female profile it could cause problems with other women and men that may take issue with the fact someone not genetically born into that sex is listing themselves as such.

I'm a lifelong transvestite, I have other transvestite, crossdresser and transgender friends and I can firmly say that they would all agree that there is a vast difference between the former 2 and the latter and frankly it's fairly offensive to lump someone who's been born in the wrong body and struggled to reach a point in their life where they are happy with Bob from down the pub who wears his wife's underwear

One of the best arguments on here I've read. I'm so on the fence it's making my arse bleed over this topic.

"

wow lol

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By *ubeeStarrXoXTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds


"This type of thread gets right up my nose. What makes a TS so special. It was OK pre op to share, this group so why think you deserve special treatment now.if you want to stand out above the rest of us, forget it. This is a minority catagory anyway. Dissecting it even more will only want others to have their own little, special group. Why stop there. No keep this group as it is and I'm sorry all you lovely TS girls, if it's not for you move over into the female group. No one on here is any better than anyone else and if you think that I can certainly knock you down a peg or two.For gods sake live and learn to share. Is it that hard to explain what you are to people who contact you or does laziness come into it. These threads are getting ridiculous, It's not rocket science people.

Why is it every time this comes up you seem to get personally offended by the idea and always seem to go on as if every transgender person thinks they're somehow better, which no proof I have ever seen.

It should be a separate category because they are women, but by using a female profile it could cause problems with other women and men that may take issue with the fact someone not genetically born into that sex is listing themselves as such.

I'm a lifelong transvestite, I have other transvestite, crossdresser and transgender friends and I can firmly say that they would all agree that there is a vast difference between the former 2 and the latter and frankly it's fairly offensive to lump someone who's been born in the wrong body and struggled to reach a point in their life where they are happy with Bob from down the pub who wears his wife's underwear"

Personally I agree with you, but...... you state they're women (and to me they're) so why cant they identify as that on here? As you said because others will be offend, so my point is no matter which way it goes someone is going to be offended. Everyone has their own profile and can do what they want with it (obvs as long as it doesn't break site rules) so why not just self categorize on their own profile? (Heading) That way it's easier for everyone xXx

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"This type of thread gets right up my nose. What makes a TS so special. It was OK pre op to share, this group so why think you deserve special treatment now.if you want to stand out above the rest of us, forget it. This is a minority catagory anyway. Dissecting it even more will only want others to have their own little, special group. Why stop there. No keep this group as it is and I'm sorry all you lovely TS girls, if it's not for you move over into the female group. No one on here is any better than anyone else and if you think that I can certainly knock you down a peg or two.For gods sake live and learn to share. Is it that hard to explain what you are to people who contact you or does laziness come into it. These threads are getting ridiculous, It's not rocket science people.

Why is it every time this comes up you seem to get personally offended by the idea and always seem to go on as if every transgender person thinks they're somehow better, which no proof I have ever seen.

It should be a separate category because they are women, but by using a female profile it could cause problems with other women and men that may take issue with the fact someone not genetically born into that sex is listing themselves as such.

I'm a lifelong transvestite, I have other transvestite, crossdresser and transgender friends and I can firmly say that they would all agree that there is a vast difference between the former 2 and the latter and frankly it's fairly offensive to lump someone who's been born in the wrong body and struggled to reach a point in their life where they are happy with Bob from down the pub who wears his wife's underwear"

I've seen proof and I've encountered quite a lot when out. I always, knock them off their little perch. This is a, swinging site, right, with set categories so why harp on about wanting your own little special section.If It was, good enough to share, pre op why isn't it afterwards. Yes I will keep on harping about this. I'm afraid you can't have your cake and eat it all. I've been around long enough and this ridiculous topic keeps cropping up. I have no objection to sharing a category with any CD, no matter what their level of dressing is so why can't a, TS accept it. For goodness sake all you have to do is be honest and tell people, what you are. Is it that bloody difficult. I suppose it is for some on here. And for your information there isn't a great deal of diffence.Apaft from the obvious, You were all once tvs. If you aren't happy sharing this group then move over. You do have a flaming choice. Stop this bleating on.

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage


"Dear Aunty Fab,

I really enjoy many things about the Fab site, but I really don’t understand why trans people and TVs/cross-dressers continue to be lumped together in one massive bundle. Surely it can’t be too hard to offer two categories of fabster : TV/CD and trans? For a sex site that presumably wants to welcome as many users as possible it seems a remarkably old-fashioned way of grouping people.

Why the reluctance to split this category into a couple of more user-friendly ones?

Lily

"

Because it’s subjective.. George the builder from down the road sticks on a dress every few weeks and sees himself as a cute sexy TS.. Are you gonna tell him he can’t be who he sees himself as?

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"Dear Aunty Fab,

I really enjoy many things about the Fab site, but I really don’t understand why trans people and TVs/cross-dressers continue to be lumped together in one massive bundle. Surely it can’t be too hard to offer two categories of fabster : TV/CD and trans? For a sex site that presumably wants to welcome as many users as possible it seems a remarkably old-fashioned way of grouping people.

Why the reluctance to split this category into a couple of more user-friendly ones?

Lily

Because it’s subjective.. George the builder from down the road sticks on a dress every few weeks and sees himself as a cute sexy TS.. Are you gonna tell him he can’t be who he sees himself as? "

So he can put himself down as a woman then if thats how HE sees himself right

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"Dear Aunty Fab,

I really enjoy many things about the Fab site, but I really don’t understand why trans people and TVs/cross-dressers continue to be lumped together in one massive bundle. Surely it can’t be too hard to offer two categories of fabster : TV/CD and trans? For a sex site that presumably wants to welcome as many users as possible it seems a remarkably old-fashioned way of grouping people.

Why the reluctance to split this category into a couple of more user-friendly ones?

Lily

Because it’s subjective.. George the builder from down the road sticks on a dress every few weeks and sees himself as a cute sexy TS.. Are you gonna tell him he can’t be who he sees himself as?

So he can put himself down as a woman then if thats how HE sees himself right "

well in this day and age with all the gender neutral stuff going on you can basically call yourself whatever you want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gender is not perceived as binary anymore (not that it ever was binary in the first place) and I think people will just have to accept this.

My opinion is that we should remove CD/TV from the gender selection all together and just leave Trans and maybe add gender fluid and/or intersexual.

Being a crossdresser has nothing to do with your gender in my opinion. This should be something you add to your profile as an option (there is already a checkbox). Other sites (cannot name them thanks to censorship) have a variety of options and I believe giving options is always better than taking them away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That is why I changed my profile to match what it says on my passport and driving licence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no simple change that the OP is looking for that will not cause offence to some.

There also seems to be a common confusion that CD is different to TV but latin translation roughly is trans=cross and vestite(vestio)=dress. Guys wearing knickers for a sexual kink is more a fetish and not in my opinion cross dressing.

I'm a transvestite or an 'old tranny' to my friends which is a description not offensive to me when used in the right context. I'm not a transexual having no desire or need to change my gender, I guess I'm lucky in that respect. There are many shades of grey in this community and no simple saisfactory answer for the OP's question. I state I am TV in my profile header and that has never been queried by people who contact me.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"There is no simple change that the OP is looking for that will not cause offence to some.

There also seems to be a common confusion that CD is different to TV but latin translation roughly is trans=cross and vestite(vestio)=dress. Guys wearing knickers for a sexual kink is more a fetish and not in my opinion cross dressing.

I'm a transvestite or an 'old tranny' to my friends which is a description not offensive to me when used in the right context. I'm not a transexual having no desire or need to change my gender, I guess I'm lucky in that respect. There are many shades of grey in this community and no simple saisfactory answer for the OP's question. I state I am TV in my profile header and that has never been queried by people who contact me."

Thank you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I don't think those who have gone through gender reassignment should be grouped with CD/TV.

These are people who feel they are a different gender than that they were born of. It's not a kink and they have not gone through that whole process just for the fun of it.

Perhaps a middle ground would be to have a profile with the gender you identify with and state you're trans on there?

Just my 2p

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"Personally I don't think those who have gone through gender reassignment should be grouped with CD/TV.

These are people who feel they are a different gender than that they were born of. It's not a kink and they have not gone through that whole process just for the fun of it.

Perhaps a middle ground would be to have a profile with the gender you identify with and state you're trans on there?

Just my 2p "

plenty post op girls get Thier gender changed to woman on here , and there are those of us who are trans who haven't yet started the transition process for various reasons

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By *ichiehbigboneMan
over a year ago

wimbledon

I totally agree with you

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By *aimeSmithTV/TS
over a year ago

Cliss

I know I’m very different from trans women and men, and never wish to cause offence.

I just wish there was a little more respect across the site, even though it’s a swinging site x

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By *enniferJayXXXTV/TS
over a year ago

Stoke-On-Trent

People have been asking the new owners for the last ten years. They won't listen so just got to live with it xx

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By *rwhite30Man
over a year ago

deptford London


"People have been asking the new owners for the last ten years. They won't listen so just got to live with it xx"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there is a massive difference between a CD and a tgirl

Which is?

you dont know?

I have an idea what the difference is but i am guessing it will be different from what you think.

So you ahve no idea but guess the answer would be different to what i think?

The difference between a cd and tgirl is between their ears. They don't necessarily look any different. I am guess that isn't what you think."

It's what's between their ears that makes them identify with a certain gender. Therefore surely it's a huge difference?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This type of thread gets right up my nose. What makes a TS so special. It was OK pre op to share, this group so why think you deserve special treatment now.if you want to stand out above the rest of us, forget it. This is a minority catagory anyway. Dissecting it even more will only want others to have their own little, special group. Why stop there. No keep this group as it is and I'm sorry all you lovely TS girls, if it's not for you move over into the female group. No one on here is any better than anyone else and if you think that I can certainly knock you down a peg or two.For gods sake live and learn to share. Is it that hard to explain what you are to people who contact you or does laziness come into it. These threads are getting ridiculous, It's not rocket science people.

Why is it every time this comes up you seem to get personally offended by the idea and always seem to go on as if every transgender person thinks they're somehow better, which no proof I have ever seen.

It should be a separate category because they are women, but by using a female profile it could cause problems with other women and men that may take issue with the fact someone not genetically born into that sex is listing themselves as such.

I'm a lifelong transvestite, I have other transvestite, crossdresser and transgender friends and I can firmly say that they would all agree that there is a vast difference between the former 2 and the latter and frankly it's fairly offensive to lump someone who's been born in the wrong body and struggled to reach a point in their life where they are happy with Bob from down the pub who wears his wife's underwear"

I'm a cis woman and this is how I feel. There is a huge psychological difference.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Ive met TV's, crossdressers, and been lucky enough to meet a couple of gorgeous trans women! One thing was similar for all the groups. When it comes to sex, they think/act like men. And believe me when i say that sex with a man who has grade A tits, a beautiful face, gorgeous hair, and a rock hard cock is amazing!

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