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"There should be a way to get rid of time wasters on here say if they received a few negative veris regarding time wasting soon get rid of a few or Could set up a meets request link and both could agree to it then it's proven that your a time waster if you don't turn up saves people doing fake ones that way. This is just a rough idea that would have to be tweaked obviously to work but it's a rough draft so to speak lol what you guys think? Am I on to something here? " No op you’re not, just do better due dilligence. | |||
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"We did read it and gave our response. There has been numerous posts on how fan should deal with time wasters however it normally means penalising one group of people in favour for another. " That was an assumption on why I put the post up not a response on the idea I gave if it's a bad idea just say I wasn't asking why I wasn't meeting anyone.I personally don't moan on here cause it's pointless I'll get a meet when I get a meet and that's cool. My idea is based on two people agreeing to meet and confirming it on here via a link (like I said it's a rough draft) so then if they don't turn up you can come back on here an click no show (via a simular link) or what ever and if it becomes a pattern then fab can take action again said person only rather than a group. I personally think it's a cracking idea and that's all I wanted the opinion on lol | |||
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"I always thought star ratings would be a good idea x" Strongly agree | |||
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"Why d'you think people would actually display a negative verification? " I mean so at least fab can be aware so they can take action it's some that would have to be tweaked a lot mines just a rough idea | |||
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"I mean so at least fab can be aware so they can take action" So exactly the same as reporting them for "Arranged meet, did not turn up"? | |||
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"There should be a way to get rid of time wasters on here say if they received a few negative veris regarding time wasting soon get rid of a few or Could set up a meets request link and both could agree to it then it's proven that your a time waster if you don't turn up saves people doing fake ones that way. This is just a rough idea that would have to be tweaked obviously to work but it's a rough draft so to speak lol what you guys think? Am I on to something here? " For this to work you would need a third person to attend the meet. Someone from the admin team. If you don’t have a witness to prove which party showed then there’s no proof. | |||
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" I mean so at least fab can be aware so they can take action it's some that would have to be tweaked a lot mines just a rough idea" | |||
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"Too many flaws I’m afraid OP, this dead horse has been flogged and flogged and flogged" Deader than Shergar! | |||
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"I mean so at least fab can be aware so they can take actionSo exactly the same as reporting them for "Arranged meet, did not turn up"?" Do admin bar people as a result? | |||
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"There should be a way to get rid of time wasters on here say if they received a few negative veris regarding time wasting soon get rid of a few or Could set up a meets request link and both could agree to it then it's proven that your a time waster if you don't turn up saves people doing fake ones that way. This is just a rough idea that would have to be tweaked obviously to work but it's a rough draft so to speak lol what you guys think? Am I on to something here? For this to work you would need a third person to attend the meet. Someone from the admin team. If you don’t have a witness to prove which party showed then there’s no proof. " Ye good point to be fare | |||
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"There's a case for having a mutually shown meet agreement system available. Fabber 1 and fabber 2 agree to meet before they do so each can volunteer to go through the process. This would need to be an option, rather than be a hard and fast rule for everyone. This would mean each would agree to the meet and be subject to an investigation should the terms between the two parties be broken. The simple indicator is show and no show, no ID's need to displayed as in with veri's, just a count of either, the more shows the higher the number, likewise the same for no-shows. The more reliable the person the better the score. If someone wants to do this, but the other isn't want to commit to this, then there is no formal agreement in place, but the one wanting this can then decide that their reluctance to do this, might mean they aren't committed to upholding the spirit of this site. Have in place a three strikes rule maybe too. I know this isn't infallible, but any tools that help in sorting out this problem would be welcomed I believe. Mr." And who will do the investigation? | |||
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"There's a case for having a mutually shown meet agreement system available. Fabber 1 and fabber 2 agree to meet before they do so each can volunteer to go through the process. This would need to be an option, rather than be a hard and fast rule for everyone. This would mean each would agree to the meet and be subject to an investigation should the terms between the two parties be broken. The simple indicator is show and no show, no ID's need to displayed as in with veri's, just a count of either, the more shows the higher the number, likewise the same for no-shows. The more reliable the person the better the score. If someone wants to do this, but the other isn't want to commit to this, then there is no formal agreement in place, but the one wanting this can then decide that their reluctance to do this, might mean they aren't committed to upholding the spirit of this site. Have in place a three strikes rule maybe too. I know this isn't infallible, but any tools that help in sorting out this problem would be welcomed I believe. Mr. And who will do the investigation?" We've made it known that we are more than happy to pay a membership fee, (again to discourage time wasters, not fool proof we know) if this can fund people to be employed to do this that's fine by us. In being free, the wasters come and go, but spoil it for those who really enjoy the spirit of the scene, by wasting peoples time and generally making it less appealing to stay, which is a shame. | |||
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"This is why we prefer to meet in clubs, we always post if we’re meeting and where we’re going and then come 200 messages saying can we meet, can you hold my hand from the car park blah blah! There’s prob 2-3 times someone actually met us there and come said hi and we’ve gone from there. Couples can be as flaky too can’t just blame the single men/women! We always tell them if they haven’t got the balls to come meet us in a club then it’s unlikely they have the intesntion to meet, instead are just fanstasists wanting to get off on what you like doing ha! Then there’s the old, “Sorry I can’t make it now, I’ve stood on a piece of Lego!” I know clubs aren’t everyone’s thing for a variety of reasons, cost or just shy. We prefer it and can pick who we play with when we meet people at clubs! Never had a shit night to be honest! Happy Swinging folks x" THat is a great point, and yes you are rights about it not just being about the singles. With couples there only needs one to get cold feet, and that has happened to us. Like you say in clubs people are going to be there, it is tricky though not knowing about some that you meet there. | |||
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"This is why we prefer to meet in clubs, we always post if we’re meeting and where we’re going and then come 200 messages saying can we meet, can you hold my hand from the car park blah blah! There’s prob 2-3 times someone actually met us there and come said hi and we’ve gone from there. Couples can be as flaky too can’t just blame the single men/women! We always tell them if they haven’t got the balls to come meet us in a club then it’s unlikely they have the intesntion to meet, instead are just fanstasists wanting to get off on what you like doing ha! Then there’s the old, “Sorry I can’t make it now, I’ve stood on a piece of Lego!” I know clubs aren’t everyone’s thing for a variety of reasons, cost or just shy. We prefer it and can pick who we play with when we meet people at clubs! Never had a shit night to be honest! Happy Swinging folks x THat is a great point, and yes you are rights about it not just being about the singles. With couples there only needs one to get cold feet, and that has happened to us. Like you say in clubs people are going to be there, it is tricky though not knowing about some that you meet there." We avoid Couple only nights tbh, don’t get me wrong we’ve gone with other couples we know and had a belter but usually it’s like being sat in Spoons all chatting! We’re usually the first upstairs so one or two follow ha! I think we’re just good judge of characters never had a bad experience tbh! We pick and choose who joins us but we’re confident and polite enough to say no thanks if its not for us. We seldom chat with a view to meeting when in a club sometimes we like a good gab but we normally go playing and see who pops their head round the door! Goes from there ha! | |||
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"There should be a way to get rid of time wasters on here say if they received a few negative veris regarding time wasting soon get rid of a few or Could set up a meets request link and both could agree to it then it's proven that your a time waster if you don't turn up saves people doing fake ones that way. This is just a rough idea that would have to be tweaked obviously to work but it's a rough draft so to speak lol what you guys think? Am I on to something here? " If they did that to people then they should be reported and hopefully admin would act accordingly. But who says they are timewasters?. Genuine people or just someone who's maybe been told no for whatever reason. How would admin determine that the people reporting said profile aren't doing it out of spite etc. Admin would need to read private messages,even though they probably do ha. Lot of work in my opinion. But i Lexi agree. Something needs to be done. This place is going downhill fast. But any real couples who would like to not have to worry about timewasters then pm us as we've got something all of you would like. Fact. Lexi | |||
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"I'd agree but that's not what this about all I'm seei_g couples and women talking time waster on my news feeds so I'm expressing my opinion on a way to fix for everyone to enjoy this place abit more. Try just reading what I put instead of assuming please" Feedback fo the OP "Arranged to meet what I initially thought was a lovely guy, however soon discovered through other fabbers that he's ghosted several people before not turning up for our meet. No word from him, now a hidden profile." Do you see what I just did OP? See how easy this could be abused? ** Please note everyone, there was no arrangement to meet between myself and the OP, this is an example. ** | |||
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"I'd agree but that's not what this about all I'm seei_g couples and women talking time waster on my news feeds so I'm expressing my opinion on a way to fix for everyone to enjoy this place abit more. Try just reading what I put instead of assuming please Feedback fo the OP "Arranged to meet what I initially thought was a lovely guy, however soon discovered through other fabbers that he's ghosted several people before not turning up for our meet. No word from him, now a hidden profile." Do you see what I just did OP? See how easy this could be abused? ** Please note everyone, there was no arrangement to meet between myself and the OP, this is an example. **" There's a flaw in many plans but tweaked perfectly by the powers that be can be excicuted well people have put some good examples of ways it can be done properly one thing I do reckon this should be a paid membership site that would cut time wasters dramatically I know I'd pay to stay on here mainly because I think the community on here is brilliant most people are decent good people. | |||
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"Bloke A meets Lady B They don't get on. Bloke A leaves negative feedback. Lady B speaks to all her friends who decide to leave lots of negative feedback on Bloke A. Never underestimate the power of a White Knight and a Woman Scorned..." Yup. | |||
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"Common sense,works for us." life sometimes gets in the way but a quick phone call sorts most problems out , so now you are going to say we are not giving out numbers we use our fab phone payg..which we find strange as when you meet at you going to stay dumb or chat ? ccj | |||
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"It's called doing your research and using some common sense. Why should people expect admin to do everything for them? Do they need to arrange meets for you as well OP? " Who's rattled your cage? If you read the thread you'd know I haven't ask for help just getting opinions don't really know why your so touchy over it lol | |||
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"It's called doing your research and using some common sense. Why should people expect admin to do everything for them? Do they need to arrange meets for you as well OP? Who's rattled your cage? If you read the thread you'd know I haven't ask for help just getting opinions don't really know why your so touchy over it lol " That was the OPs opinion. One most of the successful and sensible people share as it happens. Too many people rushing to get their dicks wet and holes filled instead of building a bit of rapport and trust first. Due diligence and common sense. Simples. That's my opinion. I've never been troubled by time wasters and fakes. | |||
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"There should be a way to get rid of time wasters on here say if they received a few negative veris regarding time wasting soon get rid of a few or Could set up a meets request link and both could agree to it then it's proven that your a time waster if you don't turn up saves people doing fake ones that way. This is just a rough idea that would have to be tweaked obviously to work but it's a rough draft so to speak lol what you guys think? Am I on to something here? " you will never stop the idiots/timewasters just report /block | |||
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"There's a case for having a mutually shown meet agreement system available. Fabber 1 and fabber 2 agree to meet before they do so each can volunteer to go through the process. This would need to be an option, rather than be a hard and fast rule for everyone. This would mean each would agree to the meet and be subject to an investigation should the terms between the two parties be broken. The simple indicator is show and no show, no ID's need to displayed as in with veri's, just a count of either, the more shows the higher the number, likewise the same for no-shows. The more reliable the person the better the score. If someone wants to do this, but the other isn't want to commit to this, then there is no formal agreement in place, but the one wanting this can then decide that their reluctance to do this, might mean they aren't committed to upholding the spirit of this site. Have in place a three strikes rule maybe too. I know this isn't infallible, but any tools that help in sorting out this problem would be welcomed I believe. Mr." This sounds good | |||
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"All systems are open to abuse and people will find ways to get round any checks which are put in place. We all have different opinions on what is considered a time waster for us it is somebody who fails to turn up but others say it is somebody who won't set a date to meet and so on. All you can do is develop your own system based on your experiences and gut instinct that is what we do." This. Gut instinct and common sense. | |||
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"Who is really going to show a bad verification? No one! " Brighton Steve. | |||
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"Make the site a pay site, at least £40 a month. Maybe reduce the cost for every verification until free ?" Now ask how many people will leave if the monthly fee is £40. | |||
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"Make the site a pay site, at least £40 a month. Maybe reduce the cost for every verification until free ? Now ask how many people will leave if the monthly fee is £40." maybe a one off fee of a similar amount will deter many, but not as a monthly fee, which will see lots of people who use this place as intended not stay. | |||
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"Still open to abuse, life gets in the way and so on. " There are times when life does get in the way. However, if two people arranged to meet and one didn’t show up and didn’t give any sort of explanation then you could reasonably assume that that person was a time waster. I’m sure we’ve all had meets that have been cancelled at the last minute as the result of something genuine coming up (pun intended) but to just not show up is very rude and disrespectful. | |||
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"Still open to abuse, life gets in the way and so on. There are times when life does get in the way. However, if two people arranged to meet and one didn’t show up and didn’t give any sort of explanation then you could reasonably assume that that person was a time waster. I’m sure we’ve all had meets that have been cancelled at the last minute as the result of something genuine coming up (pun intended) but to just not show up is very rude and disrespectful. " I've never had a no show for a meet. Not even had a cancellation. | |||
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"It's called doing your research and using some common sense. Why should people expect admin to do everything for them? Do they need to arrange meets for you as well OP? Who's rattled your cage? If you read the thread you'd know I haven't ask for help just getting opinions don't really know why your so touchy over it lol " I'm not. But you can't beat due diligence. Fab is just a platform to meet others. There is already a report function for no shows which works perfectly well. I think admin have enough to do as it is. Remember they are all volunteers. | |||
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"It's called doing your research and using some common sense. Why should people expect admin to do everything for them? Do they need to arrange meets for you as well OP? Who's rattled your cage? If you read the thread you'd know I haven't ask for help just getting opinions don't really know why your so touchy over it lol I'm not. But you can't beat due diligence. Fab is just a platform to meet others. There is already a report function for no shows which works perfectly well. I think admin have enough to do as it is. Remember they are all volunteers. " I still think some people are in too much of a rush to get their knob wet or their fanny filled to do the due diligence. I'm willing to bet the people who moan are in a rush to meet and the people who don't moan don't rush. Maybe I'm lucky, but I don't seem to suffer like many people do. There's got to be a reason.... `\/` | |||
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"It's called doing your research and using some common sense. Why should people expect admin to do everything for them? Do they need to arrange meets for you as well OP? Who's rattled your cage? If you read the thread you'd know I haven't ask for help just getting opinions don't really know why your so touchy over it lol I'm not. But you can't beat due diligence. Fab is just a platform to meet others. There is already a report function for no shows which works perfectly well. I think admin have enough to do as it is. Remember they are all volunteers. I still think some people are in too much of a rush to get their knob wet or their fanny filled to do the due diligence. I'm willing to bet the people who moan are in a rush to meet and the people who don't moan don't rush. Maybe I'm lucky, but I don't seem to suffer like many people do. There's got to be a reason.... `\/`" I chat to people a lot before deciding whether to meet them or not and don't take things off site. If they start pushing for a meet, it doesn't happen. Unfortunately there will always be ghosts and no shows. | |||
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"There should be a way to get rid of time wasters on here say if they received a few negative veris regarding time wasting soon get rid of a few or Could set up a meets request link and both could agree to it then it's proven that your a time waster if you don't turn up saves people doing fake ones that way. This is just a rough idea that would have to be tweaked obviously to work but it's a rough draft so to speak lol what you guys think? Am I on to something here? " What's your idea of a time waster OP? Can you define it by your experience in the 4 weeks you've been here? We may be able to offer some subjective ideas to help you. | |||
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"Make the site a pay site, at least £40 a month. Maybe reduce the cost for every verification until free ?" What a ridiculous idea. There are sites out there that charge loads of pounds and they are populated with more time wasters than this one. I can't name the one I have in mind but begins with S and ends in C. We've tried it on a couple of occasions and it is nearly a complete waste of time. I say nearly as we once had some success on it with a meet in Amsterdam. | |||
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"People dont turn up for a variety of reasons nerves, general change of mind, there cheats and back out, fanacists or fakes. We always turn up however if the need arises we'd cancel last minuite. It's our choice who we have sex with, if we meet someone and there not for us we're telling them. were not having sex just because we've agreed to meet and fab has a raitings system " | |||
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"I'd agree but that's not what this about all I'm seei_g couples and women talking time waster on my news feeds so I'm expressing my opinion on a way to fix for everyone to enjoy this place abit more. Try just reading what I put instead of assuming please" Agree and understand your feelings on this matter but this is one way that would be definetly open to abuse and some genuine fabers could be victimised with no fault of their own | |||
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"I've been accused of being a fake several times, I suspect even reported to that effect. The only times I've ever missed an agreed to meet (that I agreed to, not someone telling me it was going to happen, lol) is when I had a damn good reason. And I told the people as soon as I knew. I think people just need to do their due diligence and take their chances. " Agreed. I genuinely hardly arrange meets as I would rather see my kids.eg some wants to meet me next Saturday but I can't as my son might wanna see me. I realise that our life's are far more important outside of fab so if someone does cancel then I don't get upset, I'm actually kl with it thinking it must be an important reason. If anyone does not show up then just learn from it although I normally chat for a while beforehand, asking what I feel are the right questions and if I feel confident enough about that person then I will arrange to meet. As I said this method from the Op would be fantastic but is definetly open to abuse and I would not expect fab to look any further into this idea due to it being abused in this way | |||
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"There should be a way to get rid of time wasters on here say if they received a few negative veris regarding time wasting soon get rid of a few or Could set up a meets request link and both could agree to it then it's proven that your a time waster if you don't turn up saves people doing fake ones that way. This is just a rough idea that would have to be tweaked obviously to work but it's a rough draft so to speak lol what you guys think? Am I on to something here? " It's too rough and drafty | |||
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