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"So 3 females so far and a couple all think there should be no joining fee......??? " As I wrote a couple of days ago on another similar thread. If you feel a paid site will have less 'timewasters & fakes' then you know you are quite free to join such a site and leave Fab to those who are happy with how it is. Just a suggestion. | |||
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"So 3 females so far and a couple all think there should be no joining fee......??? As I wrote a couple of days ago on another similar thread. If you feel a paid site will have less 'timewasters & fakes' then you know you are quite free to join such a site and leave Fab to those who are happy with how it is. Just a suggestion." he could always block non-site supporters and see if his luck changes too. | |||
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"So 3 females so far and a couple all think there should be no joining fee......??? " well yeah, coz we're not having the problems you're having and others have experienced more expensive sites and still see the same things you're talking about here. if anything, and this is a logical guess, pay sites will attract more pros and people out to rip you off financially coz if you are paying for that site then that's where the money is so they join in the hope of finding people with obvious money. | |||
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"I can't see how a fee of that much would stop those people. Much more though and it would put some 'real' people off to. I certainly wouldn't pay anymore than I do now " Me too | |||
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"So 3 females so far and a couple all think there should be no joining fee......??? As I wrote a couple of days ago on another similar thread. If you feel a paid site will have less 'timewasters & fakes' then you know you are quite free to join such a site and leave Fab to those who are happy with how it is. Just a suggestion. he could always block non-site supporters and see if his luck changes too." ^ | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss....." timewasters have access to money too... | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss....." Fully agree. | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss....." I'm my experience, 2 other sites where monthly subscriptions were over £30 each, the number of fake profiles and timewasters was phenomenal. I've found that those type of sites have huge revenue streams, so they can employ people to sit there all day creating profiles, just to lure in the unsuspecting. Site rules prevent me from naming a site that will sell you a dating site, ready to run, full of member profiles. The vast majority of which are fake. So, in answer to your question, no, Fab shouldn't charge for membership, however members should use the tools the site provides. | |||
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"Not quite what I was trying to say but hey....it's your site that is being ruined by these scammers and whores. " Thanks for your concerns but to be honest i cant recall voting for you to be everyone's spokesman This site works wonderfully well for the majority of members - some members pay a supporters fee for some additional privileges, some are happy with what the site provides for free It always amazes me when people assume that having an elevated cost with raise the standards of those who use it Money does NOT improve peoples manners Regardless of how much someone earns or how much disposable income they have if you're an arsehole, you're an arsehole! If you are disturbed and hounded for money by profiles belonging to 'working girls' then block them and report as FAB have several policies in place to protect you from 1) unsolicited messages and 2) people asking for money FAB is what you make it - and for a free website i think its great | |||
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"Not quite what I was trying to say but hey....it's your site that is being ruined by these scammers and whores. " Whores?! | |||
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"Not quite what I was trying to say but hey....it's your site that is being ruined by these scammers and whores. " And by guys like you. Get off your righteous high horse. If you arent successful as you hoped on this site, thats down to you. I play by the site rules and I'll use this site as I see fit. If any man is in doubt, my verifications from real in person meets prove I'm genuine. I will never pay a fee to meet anyone. I'd rather delete this and move on elsewhere. | |||
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"Not quite what I was trying to say but hey....it's your site that is being ruined by these scammers and whores. Whores?! " it's another word for prostitute. | |||
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"Not quite what I was trying to say but hey....it's your site that is being ruined by these scammers and whores. " It's not my site, and my time here isn't being ruined by anyone. I'm choosy with who I talk to, take time to develop connections and don't have unrealistic expectations of what my success here might be. *Shrugs. | |||
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"Would 'real' people mind paying a mere £20 joining fee??? Really? " I'm a real person and sadly I wouldn't be in a financial position to spend £20 to join a site. I know it's not a huge amount but sadly it's more than I could get together as spare cash. My £5 site supporter fee is saved up over the 60day period | |||
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"I don't have many problems with fakes/time wasters/prostitutes etc. If I find one I just report and block. Doesn't take much effort really. I would imagine that if people had to pay £20 etc to join there would be a lot more people feeling 'entitled' to meet because they have paid " Good points | |||
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"Would 'real' people mind paying a mere £20 joining fee??? Really? " "Real people"... ffs what other sort are there... pretend friends.. pixies at the end of the garden...artifical people. Why do you think it appropriate to exclude people who may not be able to or want to pay to be here... Or do you consider you should be the arbiter of who qualifies as "real people"... | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss....." That's what the; Verification system, Silver and Gold membership, and Report and block is for. You decide who to meet based on that system. If you're a silver member then you're already paying £35 a year if you renew every 50 days. If you are a Gold member then you're already paying £60 a year if you renew every 30 days So what are you talking about £20 fee? If prostitutes and timewasters have silver or gold memberships it means they are already paying and if they have verifications then what exactly do you think will be achieved by charging everyone more money? I wouldn't pay a fee.. no. I already pay. | |||
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"I can't see how a fee of that much would stop those people. Much more though and it would put some 'real' people off to. I certainly wouldn't pay anymore than I do now Me too " Me three | |||
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"Would 'real' people mind paying a mere £20 joining fee??? Really? " Yes. Some people are not able to spare that! Sorry if you have loads of spare cash others don't | |||
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"Who would pay that small fee " The time wasters and fakes | |||
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"Who would pay that small fee The time wasters and fakes " Because time wasters and fakes don't have money do they..... | |||
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"Would 'real' people mind paying a mere £20 joining fee??? Really? " Yep. | |||
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"Not quite what I was trying to say but hey....it's your site that is being ruined by these scammers and whores. " Reaally ?? good grief that is a bit strong. Wonder why You are attracting that type of person to Yourself. I am a genuine timewaster and social goer, no one has ever asked me for money. I been here a long time happy to pay what I do. Maybe you should toddle off out of here if you are not happy and leave the rest of us too it. | |||
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"I wouldn't of joined if i had to pay. And i would leave the site if it was introducing payments. Paid sites still get fickheads and timewasters too. " I agree. I think keep the current site supporters set up, but maybe restrict eg can't use the site unless have a verified photo, freeze account if no activity for month, not a site Supporter? The site needs to earn some money to pay to operate the service | |||
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"So 3 females so far and a couple all think there should be no joining fee......??? As I wrote a couple of days ago on another similar thread. If you feel a paid site will have less 'timewasters & fakes' then you know you are quite free to join such a site and leave Fab to those who are happy with how it is. Just a suggestion. he could always block non-site supporters and see if his luck changes too." 2 of his 3 verifications are from non supporters! | |||
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"So 3 females so far and a couple all think there should be no joining fee......??? As I wrote a couple of days ago on another similar thread. If you feel a paid site will have less 'timewasters & fakes' then you know you are quite free to join such a site and leave Fab to those who are happy with how it is. Just a suggestion." | |||
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"I wouldn't of joined if i had to pay. And i would leave the site if it was introducing payments. Paid sites still get fickheads and timewasters too. I agree. I think keep the current site supporters set up, but maybe restrict eg can't use the site unless have a verified photo, freeze account if no activity for month, not a site Supporter? The site needs to earn some money to pay to operate the service " The site doesn't need to charge anymore money. It already makes a healthy profit from site supporter income. Charging more won't stop the fakes. | |||
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"a £20 joining fee would not stop the morons, brain dead and the arseholes from joining this sight " No it wouldn't | |||
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"If you can find a site that doesnt have timewaters, idiots and argumentative people when they get turned down, I think it would be a miracle. A joining fee, no but to option to go gold for 12 months without worrying about doing it every 32 days would make life a little easier at a discounted rate of course to make it worthwhile doing" You can extend your membership at any time just do it the appropriate number of times to give you a year | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss....." we agree . if there was a monthly fee say £30 that would stop all the timewasting idiots and as long as you pay a fee you should be able to name and shame no show ,ers | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss.....we agree . if there was a monthly fee say £30 that would stop all the timewasting idiots and as long as you pay a fee you should be able to name and shame no show ,ers" And you would lose loads of genuine people too. Me definitely. Name and shame never works as too many can't take rejection. | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss.....we agree . if there was a monthly fee say £30 that would stop all the timewasting idiots and as long as you pay a fee you should be able to name and shame no show ,ers" That's a bit rich, I had I meet planned with you two and you didn't show up. None of that is true. In any way shape or form. We've never exchanged a message or crossed paths, ever. It's just an example of how naming and shaming is a bad idea an correctly prohibited in the forums. | |||
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"Most of the reactions on here are to be expected as naturally nobody will want to pay for something they currently get for free. However my experience of another site does make me think fab would be improved by charging. The other site I was on was free for women but charged men approx. £120 a month, that may sound a lot but it meant the male/female ratio was approx 50/50 and so it was far easier for guys to get noticed than it is on fab. No it doesn't cut out every? time waster but when you're charging that much for membership it does do away with a lot of them! good idea .. maybe fab should have a premier level where you pay £50 per month and only members in that level can contact each other and leave the other timewasting idiots to each other " | |||
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"Most of the reactions on here are to be expected as naturally nobody will want to pay for something they currently get for free. However my experience of another site does make me think fab would be improved by charging. The other site I was on was free for women but charged men approx. £120 a month, that may sound a lot but it meant the male/female ratio was approx 50/50 and so it was far easier for guys to get noticed than it is on fab. No it doesn't cut out every? time waster but when you're charging that much for membership it does do away with a lot of them! " How would you stop the men who pretend to be women to get it for free though? | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss....." Totally would cut down all the fakes and scammers | |||
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"Most of the reactions on here are to be expected as naturally nobody will want to pay for something they currently get for free. However my experience of another site does make me think fab would be improved by charging. The other site I was on was free for women but charged men approx. £120 a month, that may sound a lot but it meant the male/female ratio was approx 50/50 and so it was far easier for guys to get noticed than it is on fab. No it doesn't cut out every? time waster but when you're charging that much for membership it does do away with a lot of them! How would you stop the men who pretend to be women to get it for free though? " The site worked differently, if you had a woman's profile you could only see and communicate with men and vice versa. | |||
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" The site worked differently, if you had a woman's profile you could only see and communicate with men and vice versa." But I'm bi, how is that helpful? | |||
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" The site worked differently, if you had a woman's profile you could only see and communicate with men and vice versa. But I'm bi, how is that helpful?" Fair point, I guess it wasn't a site aimed at you | |||
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"Most of the reactions on here are to be expected as naturally nobody will want to pay for something they currently get for free. However my experience of another site does make me think fab would be improved by charging. The other site I was on was free for women but charged men approx. £120 a month, that may sound a lot but it meant the male/female ratio was approx 50/50 and so it was far easier for guys to get noticed than it is on fab. No it doesn't cut out every? time waster but when you're charging that much for membership it does do away with a lot of them! " Are you still paying £120 a month for that site? | |||
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"Most of the reactions on here are to be expected as naturally nobody will want to pay for something they currently get for free. However my experience of another site does make me think fab would be improved by charging. The other site I was on was free for women but charged men approx. £120 a month, that may sound a lot but it meant the male/female ratio was approx 50/50 and so it was far easier for guys to get noticed than it is on fab. No it doesn't cut out every? time waster but when you're charging that much for membership it does do away with a lot of them! Are you still paying £120 a month for that site?" No, it was aimed at a particular niche which I'm no longer interested in. | |||
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"Most of the reactions on here are to be expected as naturally nobody will want to pay for something they currently get for free. However my experience of another site does make me think fab would be improved by charging. The other site I was on was free for women but charged men approx. £120 a month, that may sound a lot but it meant the male/female ratio was approx 50/50 and so it was far easier for guys to get noticed than it is on fab. No it doesn't cut out every? time waster but when you're charging that much for membership it does do away with a lot of them! How would you stop the men who pretend to be women to get it for free though? The site worked differently, if you had a woman's profile you could only see and communicate with men and vice versa." So a bloke could set up a profile pretending to be a woman? And could then presumably waste lots of mens time. So charging £120 a month doesn't actually stop timewasters or fake profiles ....... I've always found the best way to defeat timewasters and fake profiles is common sense. Unfortunately people seem to think it can be solved by money. Who knows, maybe they have more of one than the other.... | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss....." It needs to be more than £20 to stop the time wasters! Say £130 a month!!! The timewasters would move on to another free website thus leaving the more genuine members here. | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss..... It needs to be more than £20 to stop the time wasters! Say £130 a month!!! The timewasters would move on to another free website thus leaving the more genuine members here." | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss..... It needs to be more than £20 to stop the time wasters! Say £130 a month!!! The timewasters would move on to another free website thus leaving the more genuine members here." If it was £130 a month there'd be no members at all. So yes, it really would stop the timewasters. | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss..... It needs to be more than £20 to stop the time wasters! Say £130 a month!!! The timewasters would move on to another free website thus leaving the more genuine members here. " . You having a laugh, £130 a month be happier hiring a male escort and get the quality i want. Instead of the endless dross everyday. Sorry thats not being disrespectful to all | |||
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"Most of the reactions on here are to be expected as naturally nobody will want to pay for something they currently get for free. However my experience of another site does make me think fab would be improved by charging. The other site I was on was free for women but charged men approx. £120 a month, that may sound a lot but it meant the male/female ratio was approx 50/50 and so it was far easier for guys to get noticed than it is on fab. No it doesn't cut out every? time waster but when you're charging that much for membership it does do away with a lot of them! " First of all, we already pay for the silver and gold site supporter pass. If you want to deal strictly with paying members you have that option on your profile to block messages from non-site supporters. You can block newbies and you can block people who have no verifications or photo verification. Are you claiming that an extra fee would stop paying members from wasting time? Because you can already block non-paying members. If the site gets greedy and charges extra money, I'm gone. I don't only want to meet people from an income bracket that can afford to pay £20 per month. I don't even necessarily want to meet only with people who will pay. It's not a justified exchange to charge more to "keep timewasters away". People who can afford £20 will waste time too. | |||
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"I'm speaking from experience this isn't theoretical, if you don't want to believe me that's totally your choice. I've not had a problem with time wasters on here, I have plenty enough common sense to deal with them. Fortunately for me I also have the income to pay for services I deem good value. I can only presume that you don't and your jealousy is manifesting itself on this thread where I'm just trying to be helpful, I see no other reason for you to have a dig. Peace x" He wasn't having a dig, he was demonstrating how the site could be full of timewasters, even if they have the income to pay for services they deem good value. I'm sure one day Fab will give in to some company and start charging men more. Then it will be fake profiles and fake messages in your inbox running up to member renewal, just like every other pay site. I've been a member of many swinging sites over the years and the abiding impression I got was the sense of entitlement from blokes - they'd paid to join the site, so why weren't they getting shagged? Although some women would base a guys attractiveness only on the size of his income, I'm not sure most men would be comfortable with that. | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss..... It needs to be more than £20 to stop the time wasters! Say £130 a month!!! The timewasters would move on to another free website thus leaving the more genuine members here. If it was £130 a month there'd be no members at all. So yes, it really would stop the timewasters. " | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss..... It needs to be more than £20 to stop the time wasters! Say £130 a month!!! The timewasters would move on to another free website thus leaving the more genuine members here." yes good idea we would be happy to pay £130 per month. at least it would narrowdown the amount of profiles also | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss....." Definitely! At least £1000 a month...that would sort it!!! | |||
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"If you really want to pay £130 a month to use fab you're more than welcome to pay it to me and I'll continue to let you use fab " Not particularly interested in being on a site who's claim is the high membership costs. There are already clubs like that which I avoid like the plague. Besides, if after a decade and my meet chances can only be improved by being on a site where my income (after bills) can be suggested, I would be highly suspicious of anyone that wanted to meet me there! | |||
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"A site I'm a member of charges £30 a month just for the extras. Let alone basic membership. Still get timewasters and prostitutes. " which site? | |||
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"Not quite what I was trying to say but hey....it's your site that is being ruined by these scammers and whores. " I left sh because they started charging that's when fab started and fab is fantastic sh had the time wasters and all the other rabble they just moved over you'll never stop the idiots on any site just need to them out | |||
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"If people are not happy with how fab operates why don't they leave and go somewhere else where they will be happy to pay high fees. Timewaisters have money too,I don't think high fees will stop people joining fab i think the issue is that we all have access to internet more compared to 10/15 years back when one would have had to be at home to log in and that would mean sitting on the family pc/laptop and then deleting history afterwards all that is over we all have tons of gadgets we can carry with us anywhere anytime and access internet." True. We got into this 14 years ago and it was such a different experience. The first site we used had a small one of joining fee but it was good value for money. | |||
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"Not quite what I was trying to say but hey....it's your site that is being ruined by these scammers and whores. " Nobodies ruining anything for us but if you've been scammed by a whore you should report it to admin at the very least. | |||
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"Most of the reactions on here are to be expected as naturally nobody will want to pay for something they currently get for free. However my experience of another site does make me think fab would be improved by charging. The other site I was on was free for women but charged men approx. £120 a month, that may sound a lot but it meant the male/female ratio was approx 50/50 and so it was far easier for guys to get noticed than it is on fab. No it doesn't cut out every? time waster but when you're charging that much for membership it does do away with a lot of them! " That's sounds extreme I know and have met some very genuine guys but know that they can't afford that kind of money Nothing eliminates time wasters But don't penalise genuine people just because they have commitments/situations that do not allow the luxury of 120 or even 20 (original post) Everyone is allowed fun | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss....." I was a member of a swinging website that charges £150 per year. That website had way more timewasters than fab does. Discuss..... | |||
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"Absolutely not I already pay nearly £60 a year to be a site supporter I've joined others with a fee and they were all and I mean all either useless or rip offs this is the best one so far, yes some are fake and some up their own arses but in general fab is just that.. fab" | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss..... timewasters have access to money too..." Exactly that ???? | |||
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"Or a joining fee of £20 or so. Who would pay that small fee if it removes some of the male and female timewasters, girls asking for money, fake profiles and the constant 'user no longer on site' replies coming back. Discuss..... timewasters have access to money too... Exactly that ????" i aint a timewaster been on fab since few weeks after it started but paying a monthly fee meant it would not be a free site lol | |||
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"they earn money from fake profiles they own many sites belive ot not as they inter linked. thats y everyone gets emails from other sites asking you to join them.people need to have face pics on profile even if eyes blocked out. i hate photo verified but not verified by others on site as they just looking for attention " lol u might be rite there huni,but ithink we all like a bit of tlc huni | |||
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