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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a long time single guy on this site even I acknowledge that is it beyond a joke!

Makes it, for those genuine and quality few, extremely hard not to just get deleted immediately.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
Forum Mod
over a year ago

My Own Little World

Why don't you just ignore the profiles that haven't been here as long as you would like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why don't you just ignore the profiles that haven't been here as long as you would like."

Personally I really value picture verifications and meet verifications

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a single guy and not moved my pictures are not their at min as I need some new 1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

**Double facepalm**

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

Do you prefer single men or men that are cheating on someone be on the site? People on here will be anything they think you want to hear i.e. single if you want, bi if you want, straight if you want, married if you want. Welcome to Fabswingers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now "

Use the filters to stop newbies messaging you, job done

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Some new guys are genuine tho thats the problem and yes in answer to someone elses post they can be anything u want single married divorced or whatever u want until u get to know them they might not even exist lol

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

You may not have noticed but the amount of women profiles that keep appearing and disappearing are pretty high as well - it's a recurring problem across the site

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just use the filters and tools provided by the site, and always go with your gut

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

We reckon the single women profile s are mostly men aswell lol

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By *j_markCouple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now "

Is the problem that these people are mailing you, you are mailing them or is there another problem they are causing?

Admin x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why does the solution ttoevery problem seem to be to make life harder forsingle men?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We reckon the single women profile s are mostly men aswell lol"

I can assure you that I am not a man. XXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We reckon the single women profile s are mostly men aswell lol

I can assure you that I am not a man. XXX"

Me either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why don't you just ignore the profiles that haven't been here as long as you would like."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I'm a single guy and genuine just can't seem to find any interested couples or women to meet to get my verification count off the ground

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why charge single males?

There are just as many females and couples that do exactly the same thing! After a night out and a few drinks or even a night in, usually Friday or Saturday, sign up as it seems fun, then in the cold light of day, change their minds and delete their profile. Happens all the time.

I am a founder member and was given a lifetime membership of a site that you need to describe to, to message people. From what I understand there are as many timewasters on there as here.

I do think fab has changed slightly to a 'soshul medja' site. There are more people on here that will never meet others but enjoy the forums and chat rooms etc. They can talk about things you perhaps can't on other vanilla sites and yes some will get their kicks that way. That's why I avoid profiles that have cam only verifications.

If I get to meet one new person or couple in a year then I am happy, I think people have high expectations, whether male, female or a couple. Use fab as it is. I know the way it works, works for many people, it does for me.

Charge single males, if you want but I won't be one of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am not going to contact anyone on here has we (single men) tend to get pushed aside. Currently i am in bulgaira so i am hoping to start trying to go to clubs or partys...both to build my confidence and to meet people and build it from there...just joining a site and sending friend requests or sending messages is always ends in disappointment. I am still keeping my hopes up

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By *100Man
over a year ago

Essex

I have had my account for years and am a gold member I love fab and chatting and caming and I'm just getting the hang of chatting to all sexes on here I love it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi I think it's wrong to punish single guys for being just that if you don't want to meet a genuine single guy then block them there's plenty on here that will meet us the ones that should be blocked are those who come on site slag everyone off then disappear and then return at a later date and repeat the cycle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a member for a while now and completely free n single dude, I do note that it's actually quite a task to get replies from the beautiful ladies of fab.

Frustrating at times even!

I guess they just have so many messages fill up their inbox from us horny lot that us men, often in vein, just have to try that bit harder to stand out.

I have a honest profile etc. Take time to actually read their profiles so to then speak to the person not just the hot photo or inviting status. Message more than "hey nice tits luv". A gentleman yet some cheeky banter when needed ......

And still only the odd reply.....

If I wasn't as comfortable in my own skin as I am, I would be wishing I'd been born 6'4" with perfect teeth about now ^^

Keep up the good fight fellow squires of singledom x

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By *reakShow90Man
over a year ago

Manchester/halifax

I see it as a good thing all the fakes and uses and what ever else are out there good go for it guys just makes the rest of real single guys look better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps a good idea would be to create a Category of Mature Guys over age 65 or 70. This would separate us from people in their twenties who seem to be the main offenders.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now

Use the filters to stop newbies messaging you, job done"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You may not have noticed but the amount of women profiles that keep appearing and disappearing are pretty high as well - it's a recurring problem across the site "

Has it not occurred to you that these may be some of the guys the OP speaks of......?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now "

I've been saying this for months and so have other.

As much as it's a workable idea, for whatever reason it WILL NOT HAPPEN!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now

Use the filters to stop newbies messaging you, job done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep...ruining it for the lads actually up for the scene/lifestyle.

But tolerances are running low on the single ladies/couples and we're rarely taken seriously

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I'm a single guy and genuine just can't seem to find any interested couples or women to meet to get my verification count off the ground "

Think this is every single guys problem, going by the forum posts anyway...either that or just a handful are getting all the fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Recently became single after unavoidable fractures became too much.

Since becoming a single guy here my average views have dropped almost 95%, messages are deleted without even being read, winks are ignored, zero pic fabs, despite taking advice from single women on what they look for, even friends we played with as a couple have blocked me.

Genuine single mens time here is almost over I think.

Certainly opened my eyes to the rejection we get from everyone else on the site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now

I've been saying this for months and so have other.

As much as it's a workable idea, for whatever reason it WILL NOT HAPPEN! "

As I and many others have stated on other posts, other sites charge single males and it doesn't seem to have any noticeable effect on time wasters. People who waste time have money as well.

If you believe that only people who pay are genuine, then why not choose to only be contacted by site supporters, people who voluntarily choose to pay a fee instead of a mandatory sign up charge.

Again there is nothing to stop a time waster from paying that either, but if you believe it helps then it's an option

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So when we start charging men, then the men who are just signing up to get cheap thrills sign up as women. So we charge women. Then they sign up as couples. Then the sight is free for no one and there will still be the same people signing up and quitting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Charging would be silly. Everyone should have same rights. I've had the issue mentioned with couples and single ladies too

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By *kindofmagicXXXMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Women do that too

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By *emplarWarriorMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now "

The site seems to be getting overrun by Cpl Profiles run by Single Men that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all Cpls it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine Cpls altho I dont think theres many on here now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol they do charge its called an upgrade

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been on here twice , the first time was difficult because i wasnt verified and because i'd been a member a while with no veri on my profile it put people off . So i got verified the second time round and i still find it hard . I'm polite and friendly to whoever messages me but get knocked back . But i've had a few messages off single women and iv'e replied only to find out theyr'e no longer on fab after 1 or 2 weeks . Not all single men are idiots but i understand some ruin it for the other's .

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

As others have said you can already block people who haven't paid from messaging you - its already an option on here in your filters section

It's not the sites fault some people don't know how to use their filters

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By *ilkchocolate87Man
over a year ago

sw london

The ratio of single men to women who genuinely meet is a joke now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've had lot's of fun in the past with "solo males" and will continue to do so BUT we agree with the OP that this "now you see me - now you don't - I'm back!" is a truly time-wasting malady. They waste every-bodies time and seem oblivious to the fact that they make themselves untenable to those of us able to see what they're doing.

It's natural that some guys have a "moth to the light" relationship with social swinging BUT are there more sinister reasons? It's a very good way for an unattached guy that has created issues and multiple blocks to wash off their past!

None of the filters work perfectly, the astute will always know a way around them, so if Admin agree this is something they need to attempt to prevent.

It depends just how reliable the static IP address is for the "offender" for if it is fixed then "old accounts" can be locked if deleted and multiple new accounts limited to only so many per year . . that number being ONE we would suggest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Single guys get a raw enough deal without this too. Yes, some are a nuisance, deleting, returning, yo-yoing, usually to get around blocks or cos they've had a hissy fit but charging them a fee will not stop them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem l have with OP's comment and similar comments is instead of re evaluating how they choose single men they blame their problems on the keyboard warriors. I have a decent amount of veris and only 3 come from contact through fab. I find it pointless contacting couples or single women on here and I now use fab as a safe way to follow up initial contact made off fab. I am always puzzled how people constantly pick timewasters given the number of 'genuine' single men l see at clubs. May be genuine single men are not sitting around waiting to be picked but are out making connections and use their profiles as l do and therefore we should not be penalised.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are many many profiles on here that are not entirely genuine.

Men parading as women

Cpls profiles where the wife has no idea the male half wants her to have an ffm

Many females profiles are single guys or guys in deliberation of their feminine side too.

It is truly hard for single guys on here agreed.

Traditional swinging is no longer the norm.

Verifications, length of time served and photo verifications can also be an issue.

Some guys turn nasty when you are honest because their profile uses photos that are not of them? But think they deserve a chance when honesty is something I expect in their messages.

As a single lady on here for years now I'm happy to give most guys a chance to chat! That said I never ever promise to meet unless I'm certain they're on the same page as me.

I've swung for many years and the "swinging scene" is nothing like it used to be years ago.

I've swung as a couple (how swinging was considered only originally) and more recently as a single.

You get a feel with time served for those that are genuine and those that just want help to get their rocks off.

I personally don't do cams or phone sex. If it's not interactive with another person or persons then to me it's not worth it. That said Cams can be a great tool to see if cpls are genuine and if guys are their pictures. Even if only for a few minutes.

With the advantages of FaceTime and kik these days there are many ways to get the feeling right for any person on here in minutes.

It all depends on how serious the individual or cpl is about their chances on here.

Patience is rarely found amongst the single guys / couples I've noted and the demand for us "unicorns" is soooooooo high it's why is single ladies are very dismissive.

I try to answer everyone but that said somedays the inbox is just too full to manage them all. So I tend to read through the profiles of those that interest me and develop conversations with those clever enough to find more than "Hi" or "How are you" and ignore those just firing random crude messages mid wank at me.

So there is no cure.... to charge is a pointless exercise. It is already an expensive pastime/lifestyle in the club circuit for single guys so it's not really the answer.

Just be savvy and aware of the guys feelings before dismissing them.

And guys if you have issues spelling and reading say so then we understand why text speak is necessary in your messages.

Happy swinging folks.

Onwards and upwards Horacio I say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are many many profiles on here that are not entirely genuine.

Men parading as women

Cpls profiles where the wife has no idea the male half wants her to have an ffm

Many females profiles are single guys or guys in deliberation of their feminine side too.

It is truly hard for single guys on here agreed.

Traditional swinging is no longer the norm.

Verifications, length of time served and photo verifications can also be an issue.

Some guys turn nasty when you are honest because their profile uses photos that are not of them? But think they deserve a chance when honesty is something I expect in their messages.

As a single lady on here for years now I'm happy to give most guys a chance to chat! That said I never ever promise to meet unless I'm certain they're on the same page as me.

I've swung for many years and the "swinging scene" is nothing like it used to be years ago.

I've swung as a couple (how swinging was considered only originally) and more recently as a single.

You get a feel with time served for those that are genuine and those that just want help to get their rocks off.

I personally don't do cams or phone sex. If it's not interactive with another person or persons then to me it's not worth it. That said Cams can be a great tool to see if cpls are genuine and if guys are their pictures. Even if only for a few minutes.

With the advantages of FaceTime and kik these days there are many ways to get the feeling right for any person on here in minutes.

It all depends on how serious the individual or cpl is about their chances on here.

Patience is rarely found amongst the single guys / couples I've noted and the demand for us "unicorns" is soooooooo high it's why is single ladies are very dismissive.

I try to answer everyone but that said somedays the inbox is just too full to manage them all. So I tend to read through the profiles of those that interest me and develop conversations with those clever enough to find more than "Hi" or "How are you" and ignore those just firing random crude messages mid wank at me.

So there is no cure.... to charge is a pointless exercise. It is already an expensive pastime/lifestyle in the club circuit for single guys so it's not really the answer.

Just be savvy and aware of the guys feelings before dismissing them.

And guys if you have issues spelling and reading say so then we understand why text speak is necessary in your messages.

Happy swinging folks.

Onwards and upwards Horacio I say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are many many profiles on here that are not entirely genuine.

Men parading as women

Cpls profiles where the wife has no idea the male half wants her to have an ffm

Many females profiles are single guys or guys in deliberation of their feminine side too.

It is truly hard for single guys on here agreed.

Traditional swinging is no longer the norm.

Verifications, length of time served and photo verifications can also be an issue.

Some guys turn nasty when you are honest because their profile uses photos that are not of them? But think they deserve a chance when honesty is something I expect in their messages.

As a single lady on here for years now I'm happy to give most guys a chance to chat! That said I never ever promise to meet unless I'm certain they're on the same page as me.

I've swung for many years and the "swinging scene" is nothing like it used to be years ago.

I've swung as a couple (how swinging was considered only originally) and more recently as a single.

You get a feel with time served for those that are genuine and those that just want help to get their rocks off.

I personally don't do cams or phone sex. If it's not interactive with another person or persons then to me it's not worth it. That said Cams can be a great tool to see if cpls are genuine and if guys are their pictures. Even if only for a few minutes.

With the advantages of FaceTime and kik these days there are many ways to get the feeling right for any person on here in minutes.

It all depends on how serious the individual or cpl is about their chances on here.

Patience is rarely found amongst the single guys / couples I've noted and the demand for us "unicorns" is soooooooo high it's why is single ladies are very dismissive.

I try to answer everyone but that said somedays the inbox is just too full to manage them all. So I tend to read through the profiles of those that interest me and develop conversations with those clever enough to find more than "Hi" or "How are you" and ignore those just firing random crude messages mid wank at me.

So there is no cure.... to charge is a pointless exercise. It is already an expensive pastime/lifestyle in the club circuit for single guys so it's not really the answer.

Just be savvy and aware of the guys feelings before dismissing them.

And guys if you have issues spelling and reading say so then we understand why text speak is necessary in your messages.

Happy swinging folks.

Onwards and upwards Horacio I say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are many many profiles on here that are not entirely genuine.

Men parading as women

Cpls profiles where the wife has no idea the male half wants her to have an ffm

Many females profiles are single guys or guys in deliberation of their feminine side too.

It is truly hard for single guys on here agreed.

Traditional swinging is no longer the norm.

Verifications, length of time served and photo verifications can also be an issue.

Some guys turn nasty when you are honest because their profile uses photos that are not of them? But think they deserve a chance when honesty is something I expect in their messages.

As a single lady on here for years now I'm happy to give most guys a chance to chat! That said I never ever promise to meet unless I'm certain they're on the same page as me.

I've swung for many years and the "swinging scene" is nothing like it used to be years ago.

I've swung as a couple (how swinging was considered only originally) and more recently as a single.

You get a feel with time served for those that are genuine and those that just want help to get their rocks off.

I personally don't do cams or phone sex. If it's not interactive with another person or persons then to me it's not worth it. That said Cams can be a great tool to see if cpls are genuine and if guys are their pictures. Even if only for a few minutes.

With the advantages of FaceTime and kik these days there are many ways to get the feeling right for any person on here in minutes.

It all depends on how serious the individual or cpl is about their chances on here.

Patience is rarely found amongst the single guys / couples I've noted and the demand for us "unicorns" is soooooooo high it's why is single ladies are very dismissive.

I try to answer everyone but that said somedays the inbox is just too full to manage them all. So I tend to read through the profiles of those that interest me and develop conversations with those clever enough to find more than "Hi" or "How are you" and ignore those just firing random crude messages mid wank at me.

So there is no cure.... to charge is a pointless exercise. It is already an expensive pastime/lifestyle in the club circuit for single guys so it's not really the answer.

Just be savvy and aware of the guys feelings before dismissing them.

And guys if you have issues spelling and reading say so then we understand why text speak is necessary in your messages.

Happy swinging folks.

Onwards and upwards Horacio I say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I'm a single guy and genuine just can't seem to find any interested couples or women to meet to get my verification count off the ground

Think this is every single guys problem, going by the forum posts anyway...either that or just a handful are getting all the fun "

. Sorry!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are many many profiles on here that are not entirely genuine.

Men parading as women

Cpls profiles where the wife has no idea the male half wants her to have an ffm

Many females profiles are single guys or guys in deliberation of their feminine side too.

It is truly hard for single guys on here agreed.

Traditional swinging is no longer the norm.

Verifications, length of time served and photo verifications can also be an issue.

Some guys turn nasty when you are honest because their profile uses photos that are not of them? But think they deserve a chance when honesty is something I expect in their messages.

As a single lady on here for years now I'm happy to give most guys a chance to chat! That said I never ever promise to meet unless I'm certain they're on the same page as me.

I've swung for many years and the "swinging scene" is nothing like it used to be years ago.

I've swung as a couple (how swinging was considered only originally) and more recently as a single.

You get a feel with time served for those that are genuine and those that just want help to get their rocks off.

I personally don't do cams or phone sex. If it's not interactive with another person or persons then to me it's not worth it. That said Cams can be a great tool to see if cpls are genuine and if guys are their pictures. Even if only for a few minutes.

With the advantages of FaceTime and kik these days there are many ways to get the feeling right for any person on here in minutes.

It all depends on how serious the individual or cpl is about their chances on here.

Patience is rarely found amongst the single guys / couples I've noted and the demand for us "unicorns" is soooooooo high it's why is single ladies are very dismissive.

I try to answer everyone but that said somedays the inbox is just too full to manage them all. So I tend to read through the profiles of those that interest me and develop conversations with those clever enough to find more than "Hi" or "How are you" and ignore those just firing random crude messages mid wank at me.

So there is no cure.... to charge is a pointless exercise. It is already an expensive pastime/lifestyle in the club circuit for single guys so it's not really the answer.

Just be savvy and aware of the guys feelings before dismissing them.

And guys if you have issues spelling and reading say so then we understand why text speak is necessary in your messages.

Happy swinging folks.

Onwards and upwards Horacio I say

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By *onnie and JohnCouple
over a year ago

WILTSHIRE


"So when we start charging men, then the men who are just signing up to get cheap thrills sign up as women. So we charge women. Then they sign up as couples. Then the sight is free for no one and there will still be the same people signing up and quitting."

why not just use the filters and stop contact from new members or non veri..? or am i missing something ?

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By *ornographic ArtsCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

If the issue is people getting deleted, or removing their profile and just making a new one perhaps fab can limit registrations from the same IP address? Granted there are ways around this but it could stop the influx if they have to wait a few days etc... to make a new one.

As others have said, single male profiles are not the whole problem. We had an issue before with a "couple", it was always the same male but he would have a a different female partner everytime, a public verification photo with the both of them holding their new username and they would always be site supporters. We started blocking new members but he would just wait and eventually we'd get the same message which confirmed he was just a singe male. Guessing he got friends to help him out or something.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd think it fair enough that single guys have to be site supporters of have to pay very few months

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now "

It does make things difficult for the genuine guys, but sadly, this is the reality of the online world these days. As another gentleman mentioned though, you can set your filters to prevent new members messaging you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a member for a while now and completely free n single dude, I do note that it's actually quite a task to get replies from the beautiful ladies of fab.

Frustrating at times even!

I guess they just have so many messages fill up their inbox from us horny lot that us men, often in vein, just have to try that bit harder to stand out.

I have a honest profile etc. Take time to actually read their profiles so to then speak to the person not just the hot photo or inviting status. Message more than "hey nice tits luv". A gentleman yet some cheeky banter when needed ......

And still only the odd reply.....

If I wasn't as comfortable in my own skin as I am, I would be wishing I'd been born 6'4" with perfect teeth about now ^^

Keep up the good fight fellow squires of singledom x

"

Not sure why you find it hard to get replies... Yummy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now "
I guess it's because single guys get overlooked because there's a lot on her. I don't think it's fair to charge us for being on here though....I'm a genuine guy but because of the volume of guys on here I'm overshadowed .

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By *rs dinglesCouple
over a year ago

lybster

There are too many single guys in chatrooms a lot of polite ones too there some that abuse the chat so much they never on cam themselves ,but tell other what too do fair enough it directing rooms but loads guys don't respect the single f or couples on cam either loads genuine couples are leaving the site it more like a perving site than swinging site loads singles on m/f profiles too just tugging away it spoils it for the genuine swingers on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a single guy I find that none of my mail gets read - pretty much just left or deleted. I think the place is overrun as you say and a lot are fake and useless. Gives us a bad name...

So I had a thought. What if all single men were not able to send mail. Only respond. That way people search us out and can mail if interested. I think no one actually has time to search for a single man at the moment because they're swamped so no one bothers

Thoughts...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a single guy I find that none of my mail gets read - pretty much just left or deleted. I think the place is overrun as you say and a lot are fake and useless. Gives us a bad name...

So I had a thought. What if all single men were not able to send mail. Only respond. That way people search us out and can mail if interested. I think no one actually has time to search for a single man at the moment because they're swamped so no one bothers

Thoughts..."
That's unfair, they should be allowed to message other single males

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been saying this since day one. It's an obvious solution but for some weird reason they won't do it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The crying with laughter emoji doesn't exist here

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By *ertsguy2000Man
over a year ago

hertford


"There are many many profiles on here that are not entirely genuine.

Men parading as women

Cpls profiles where the wife has no idea the male half wants her to have an ffm

Many females profiles are single guys or guys in deliberation of their feminine side too.

It is truly hard for single guys on here agreed.

Traditional swinging is no longer the norm.

Verifications, length of time served and photo verifications can also be an issue.

Some guys turn nasty when you are honest because their profile uses photos that are not of them? But think they deserve a chance when honesty is something I expect in their messages.

As a single lady on here for years now I'm happy to give most guys a chance to chat! That said I never ever promise to meet unless I'm certain they're on the same page as me.

I've swung for many years and the "swinging scene" is nothing like it used to be years ago.

I've swung as a couple (how swinging was considered only originally) and more recently as a single.

You get a feel with time served for those that are genuine and those that just want help to get their rocks off.

I personally don't do cams or phone sex. If it's not interactive with another person or persons then to me it's not worth it. That said Cams can be a great tool to see if cpls are genuine and if guys are their pictures. Even if only for a few minutes.

With the advantages of FaceTime and kik these days there are many ways to get the feeling right for any person on here in minutes.

It all depends on how serious the individual or cpl is about their chances on here.

Patience is rarely found amongst the single guys / couples I've noted and the demand for us "unicorns" is soooooooo high it's why is single ladies are very dismissive.

I try to answer everyone but that said somedays the inbox is just too full to manage them all. So I tend to read through the profiles of those that interest me and develop conversations with those clever enough to find more than "Hi" or "How are you" and ignore those just firing random crude messages mid wank at me.

So there is no cure.... to charge is a pointless exercise. It is already an expensive pastime/lifestyle in the club circuit for single guys so it's not really the answer.

Just be savvy and aware of the guys feelings before dismissing them.

And guys if you have issues spelling and reading say so then we understand why text speak is necessary in your messages.

Happy swinging folks.

Onwards and upwards Horacio I say

"

Absolutely nail on the head , I wish everyone shared your understanding and good manners, thanks for posting this

HG

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By *andmdscoupleCouple
over a year ago

Epsom

As a couple we get a lot of interest from single guys. Our experience is 90% take no time to read the profile and make no effort to tailor their response to the couple.

This surely perpetuates the frustration on both sides i.e. the couple irked that the response is inappropriate/not what they have said they are looking for and the originator equally irked that they haven't received a response?

We have tried stating preferences in our profile and use our status message to prompt people to read before replying but it seems to no avail.

We will always try and take the time to send a courteous reply (even if its a polite no thanks) to those that have sent considered messages but alas suspect this will be the exception rather than the norm.

Whether you agree or otherwise with the above is of course a personal point of view..its simply our experience/view as a couple...

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a single guy I find that none of my mail gets read - pretty much just left or deleted. I think the place is overrun as you say and a lot are fake and useless. Gives us a bad name...

So I had a thought. What if all single men were not able to send mail. Only respond. That way people search us out and can mail if interested. I think no one actually has time to search for a single man at the moment because they're swamped so no one bothers

Thoughts..."

Oh brilliant, not only do now get deleted and ignored, we have to wait for someone to contact us first to have it happen

Might as well not be on here in the first place!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now "

Yeah lets charge the couples and females that too as they are just as guilty.. woop

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only reply to site supporters. Simple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Men and women usually write completely differently. It's not fool proof but I've caught a few people out by the way they write. A bit like body language. There are certain words and expression I would NOT expect from a woman!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Use the filters to stop newbies messaging you, job done"

Exactly. since I turn the filters on I haven't been pestered once. Now it's just blokes pretending to be women. You can't win! and it's no surprise this site has a bad name.

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By *xxxMan
over a year ago

Bedford & Chester


"We reckon the single women profile s are mostly men aswell lol"

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)


"As a couple we get a lot of interest from single guys. Our experience is 90% take no time to read the profile and make no effort to tailor their response to the couple.

This surely perpetuates the frustration on both sides i.e. the couple irked that the response is inappropriate/not what they have said they are looking for and the originator equally irked that they haven't received a response?

We have tried stating preferences in our profile and use our status message to prompt people to read before replying but it seems to no avail.

We will always try and take the time to send a courteous reply (even if its a polite no thanks) to those that have sent considered messages but alas suspect this will be the exception rather than the norm.

Whether you agree or otherwise with the above is of course a personal point of view..its simply our experience/view as a couple..."

I see folks (couples and ladies) post responses similar to this..^^^.. bemoaning berating single guys.(and other genders) .. The solution is within your control ... Yep you can block single guys from messaging you ..or couples or any gender ...that way you'll not receive messages from folk who haven't read your profile or preferences ..as I see it you can set your filters or hope that others change their behaviour , I know what's easier to do... it does mean you'll need to be proactive ..searching messaging etc..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I'm a single guy and genuine just can't seem to find any interested couples or women to meet to get my verification count off the ground "

Have you tried using a fake pic???

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By *ertsguy2000Man
over a year ago

hertford

I would also like to point out that not all single guys are the same. Some of us are quiet, discreet and respectful. Some of us will always act in an polite and courteous manner. Some of us feel a little uncomfortable sending endless messages so will refrain and perhaps just send a wink instead putting the control of contact into the recipient hands as to initiating contact.

I know that's just some of us, but we are here,

HG

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would also like to point out that not all single guys are the same. Some of us are quiet, discreet and respectful. Some of us will always act in an polite and courteous manner. Some of us feel a little uncomfortable sending endless messages so will refrain and perhaps just send a wink instead putting the control of contact into the recipient hands as to initiating contact.

I know that's just some of us, but we are here,

HG

X"

Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would also like to point out that not all single guys are the same. Some of us are quiet, discreet and respectful. Some of us will always act in an polite and courteous manner. Some of us feel a little uncomfortable sending endless messages so will refrain and perhaps just send a wink instead putting the control of contact into the recipient hands as to initiating contact.

I know that's just some of us, but we are here,

HG

X"

This -

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By *andmdscoupleCouple
over a year ago

Epsom

Why should the onus be on us? If we've taken the time to set out our preferences in our profile why is it then incumbent on us to modify our behaviour. Sorry not buying your proffered solution....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now "
why just single charge everyone couples singles

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By *eanus 2000Man
over a year ago

Marlborough


"We've had lot's of fun in the past with "solo males" and will continue to do so BUT we agree with the OP that this "now you see me - now you don't - I'm back!" is a truly time-wasting malady. They waste every-bodies time and seem oblivious to the fact that they make themselves untenable to those of us able to see what they're doing.

It's natural that some guys have a "moth to the light" relationship with social swinging BUT are there more sinister reasons? It's a very good way for an unattached guy that has created issues and multiple blocks to wash off their past!

None of the filters work perfectly, the astute will always know a way around them, so if Admin agree this is something they need to attempt to prevent.

It depends just how reliable the static IP address is for the "offender" for if it is fixed then "old accounts" can be locked if deleted and multiple new accounts limited to only so many per year . . that number being ONE we would suggest. "

I agree that the IP address should be locked out however if a genuine member wants to take a break for whatever reason perhaps they could pay a fee to hold the profile for a set time. They could then restart the profile if the reason they stopped changes and not get locked out by default, If deleting the profile will automatically get the IP address locked the time wasters will have to pay to disappear and reappear and of course any blocks or bad feedback will still be on the profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This site does very little for the single guy. If you decide to charge them not only will some of the the fakes go but so will some of the genuine singles.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Men and women usually write completely differently. It's not fool proof but I've caught a few people out by the way they write. A bit like body language. There are certain words and expression I would NOT expect from a woman!"
totaly agree.

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By *eanus 2000Man
over a year ago

Marlborough


"I would also like to point out that not all single guys are the same. Some of us are quiet, discreet and respectful. Some of us will always act in an polite and courteous manner. Some of us feel a little uncomfortable sending endless messages so will refrain and perhaps just send a wink instead putting the control of contact into the recipient hands as to initiating contact.

I know that's just some of us, but we are here,

HG

X"

Totally agree but sadly there's so many men who will do anything and everything to get around the filters etc and they don't realise their efforts are pointless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Terrible idea. If you are charged to join the site on the basis you are male. Not only is that sexist but it would drive away one of the site's biggest demographics which would hamper the site plus the people that want single guys.

Also the problem does not lie with only the disposable men, there are many occasions where all parties do this.

Best solution, focus on who gives you what you need and want, discard the rest.

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By *igwam1Man
over a year ago

wigan

Glad to hear it's not just me that is struggling to be taken serious. There will always be fake accounts and time wasters and unfortunately for us genuine people there is not a great deal you can do about it.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

More fakes needed, I say. Helps me differentiate myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now "

It's a shame people aren't MADE to register at a town office, with a passport, driving license, 3 utility bills, a solicitors letter and a police statement while accompanied by the local MP. That would sort the problem out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why should genuine single guys like me pay. We all ready have to pay extortionate prices to get into a club so no. I totally dissagree with this suvgestion. And if your gonna suggest that then why not charge couples too because there are so many fake profiles there too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well it must be a problem on here as I've been here a month now and no swingers wont to know.I am genuine and say things as I see them.These fakes are taking the trust from the site and the real profiles.Rant over lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well it must be a problem on here as I've been here a month now and no swingers wont to know.I am genuine and say things as I see them.These fakes are taking the trust from the site and the real profiles.Rant over lol."

Fakes really are easy to spot. It just takes a little bit of common sense. They exist on all sites and do not affect us one bit.

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover

It takes more than being genuine to get noticed on here and it is not down to what other guys do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why should genuine single guys like me pay. We all ready have to pay extortionate prices to get into a club so no. I totally dissagree with this suvgestion. And if your gonna suggest that then why not charge couples too because there are so many fake profiles there too "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have had that happen to me they say hi want to chat next thing I know user no longer on site scary

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By *infullyNaughtyMan
over a year ago

Staines

Charge single guys? Are you serious? The thing is right, there are a lot of legit guys out there, such as me, who have been trying to get at least one reply, but women never give us guys a chance. We're already having a hard as fuck time trying to get recognised and appreciated, and now you want to make our lives even harder by charging us more? I already pay to use this site. Women see single guys as the antichrist. Fuck knows why.

Don't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from, that there are lots of fake accounts and shit. But it's not always men that make the fake accounts. I've been scammed by a couple of ladies before on this site, and yes they werent men pretending to be ladies, they were actually ladies.

Instead of painting all men under the same brush, understand that there are women out there who can be worse. Both genders have cunts. From my experiences, it's been the women. The men have always been nice to me on this site as opposed to the ladies.

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By *infullyNaughtyMan
over a year ago

Staines

Basically, single guys get treated like dirt as it is. Look at clubs. They charge men nearly 5 times as much as ladies. Imagine if it was the other way around. People would start an uprising, but nah, single guys should be treated like dirt, am I right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No you are wrong no one should be treated badly.and if single guys don't like paying more for club's than others,then protest with your feet and don't go.club's would be forced to change their pricing policies.but we know that won't happen.club's get away with charging men considerably more because they know they will pay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Basically, single guys get treated like dirt as it is. Look at clubs. They charge men nearly 5 times as much as ladies. Imagine if it was the other way around. People would start an uprising, but nah, single guys should be treated like dirt, am I right? "

If it was the other way round and ladies where charged 5x's as much how many ladies do you think would be in the club. Yep none! Then the fellas would complain. Women are the minority that clubs want to attract. It's just good business sense. If you don't like it don't go, get your meets off here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cant seem to get any replies nevermind verifications lol

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By *nioukMan
over a year ago

Clevedon

Admin,

There could be a way to help cut this down a little. I am also a web developer so do know what I am talking about before anyone comments lol.

You could - if you do not already - record the users IP address when they register and keep this in your DB. When a new user registers it looks to see if this IP is already registered to an account. If so it gets flagged with Admin for further confirmation before it is created.

I have done similar on another site so happy to talk in more detail if you want, just PM me.

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By *onny MCMan
over a year ago

Crawley


"As a single guy I find that none of my mail gets read - pretty much just left or deleted. I think the place is overrun as you say and a lot are fake and useless. Gives us a bad name...

So I had a thought. What if all single men were not able to send mail. Only respond. That way people search us out and can mail if interested. I think no one actually has time to search for a single man at the moment because they're swamped so no one bothers

Thoughts...

Oh brilliant, not only do now get deleted and ignored, we have to wait for someone to contact us first to have it happen

Might as well not be on here in the first place! "

No, I think he's got a point there. There are women on here looking for single guys, quite a few say that they block all guys and search themselves, if all women had to do that, they'd find their way to the genuine guys eventually. Plus, I quite like the idea of being chased for a change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Finding the whole site frustrating at the minute.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Finding the whole site frustrating at the minute.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Finding the whole site frustrating at the minute.

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Why?

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

Tamworth

I've not gone through the whole thread, but the messaging feature on here really does leave a lot to be desired.

It's very easy for messages from people you know/want to reply to to get lost in a sea of awful and trying to keep track of conversations especially if you're getting lots and lots of messages (like a friend of mine is) is almost impossible.

Admin: Can we have better messages functionality? Help with implementation offered as it's part of what I do for a living!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Admin,

There could be a way to help cut this down a little. I am also a web developer so do know what I am talking about before anyone comments lol.

You could - if you do not already - record the users IP address when they register and keep this in your DB. When a new user registers it looks to see if this IP is already registered to an account. If so it gets flagged with Admin for further confirmation before it is created.

I have done similar on another site so happy to talk in more detail if you want, just PM me."

Surely as a web developer you're aware that this would only be useful for static IP addresses, considering the amount of profiles I see created new via mobile phones it's only going to be a very limited help

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By *edsBonkingMan
over a year ago

Near MK


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now "

Been here years why should I pay ?

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By *edsBonkingMan
over a year ago

Near MK


"You may not have noticed but the amount of women profiles that keep appearing and disappearing are pretty high as well - it's a recurring problem across the site "

I've seen these too, some are very obviously fake, with stunning super model pictures, same phrase on their profile. I avoid them. Simples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site seems to be getting overrun by single guys that open a acount then disapear after a few days then back again under another name would it be a idea to charge all single guys it might help this stop its a shame its ruining it for the genuine guys altho we dont think theres many on here now "

I'm a "genuine single guy" and although I'm a Silver Supporter", charge me and I leave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh this is one of those original 'site being over ran by single guy' threads.

Don't like it - block them or look for a swinging site solely for couples.

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By *mooth8Man
over a year ago

s hertfordshire

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By *mooth8Man
over a year ago

s hertfordshire

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2 weeks ago

I have had that happen to me they say hi want to chat next thing I know user no longer on site scary

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Ha ha youve got to laugh posted by someone whos..... no longer on the site

Paying for membership? Have you not noticed there is a site supporter scheme where we already pay! Why not just dismiss non site supporters? Charging will mean losing genuine honest guys and gaining more fakes exactly opposite your intention.

Ok so ive been here a few years now and ive met some really very nice people, most of whom ive made first contact. So i cant see the men only recieving mail thing working.

I only send polite messages but still i get some either deleted without reading, read and deleted, profile viewed and message deleted.

Ive know genuine single fems and couples who come and go.

I apply my own filters which are.. dont bother with people without more than one veri for starters, check who the veri is from. nerver send personal info. Nor a face pic if they dont have any pics. Ask for a phone number (that one guarantees to never hear from them again) and report any i suspect fake.

To be honest i think you can spot a fake/timewaster quite easily i prefer to wind them up then let them go back to their sad lonley pathetic lives while i go and meet more nice genuine people!

No one suggests swinging is easy and the time wasters fakes dreamers fantasists not to mention rude arseholes who insult then hide behind the keyboard and the "block button" dont make life any easier. Oh and dont forget the judgmental tw@ts (who really pi$$ me off) But genuine people are out there. Iknow ive met quite a few.

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By *ary for funMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Why don't you just ignore the profiles that haven't been here as long as you would like."
. Well said that lady??. Haven't bothered read all the replies to this particular thread.........just ( and thankfully ) happened to see this particular reply.........(a) says it all, (b) know exactly all the claptrap that would follow??. "Swingers site". Seems to me move often than not, the only time lots of you appear to "swing" into action, is to bloody moan about something!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a new single male on here, though not new as I was a part of a couple a few years ago, I have found that the same problem has been debated for years. Now for me, the shoe is on the other foot. I am now facing the joys of mailing, winking and generally searching for potential meets, only to find that, yes, fem is male. Single fem profile stating she only meets with bf. Or get ignored.

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By *mooth8Man
over a year ago

s hertfordshire

Another point. Ive met and played with couples at clubs before, exchange details afterwards only to find out they had previously blocked me coz i had the audasity to send them a message lol

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