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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd leave, no way I am willing to share those details and provide a copy of ID. I am photo verified and meet verified so that's enough for me to prove I'm not a fake.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Well the info would only be available to the site owners wouldn't it!

It would just stop picture theives making profiles to stalk and rob pictures!

Don't see why it would be a problem as other sites do this!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well the info would only be available to the site owners wouldn't it!

It would just stop picture theives making profiles to stalk and rob pictures!

Don't see why it would be a problem as other sites do this! "

So if people wish to do so let them join the other sites. You may not see it as a problem and that's your opinion, mine is I wouldn't provide a copy of my ID to any website. Plus the risks of hacking, no thanks.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Well the info would only be available to the site owners wouldn't it!

It would just stop picture theives making profiles to stalk and rob pictures!

Don't see why it would be a problem as other sites do this! "

I've been a member of various swinging and dating sites over the last 15 years and not one has ever asked for passport/driving licence details.

This is a free site. How long do you think it would stay free if they enacted your requests? And how would they do that and not lose members?

Fakes are relatively easy to spot, so maybe use your nouse instead of spoiling the site for others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

How is that spoiling the site it would be improving it the way we see it!

well maybe if they just implanted the part where you can only view profiles after being verified and becoming a site supporter!

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By *over me with CumCouple
over a year ago

Near Spalding.


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

We agree, The amount of timewasters on here needs to be addressed. It's spoiling it for all the genuine people on here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Something has got to be done

The site is becoming a joke fast!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like the site as it is, fake profiles and time wasters are easily spotted, but if your struggling use your filters to stop any non verified/new users etc, from contacting you

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I like the site as it is, fake profiles and time wasters are easily spotted, but if your struggling use your filters to stop any non verified/new users etc, from contacting you"

There's a lot of room for improvement

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

The site is fine as it is, it provides you with all the tools you need to have fun without much hassle.

You want proof?

We have been on here over 7 years and have NEVER had a no-show!

Treat every single profile as fake unless proven otherwise, and don't be in such a rush to play that it clouds your judgement.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

Am I understanding correctly? The site should be run on the lines that you dictate and if I don't agree I'm not a real swinger?

We've never had a no show, plenty of men have contacted us claiming to be a couple but that's so easy to suss.

Neither of us want the changes you suggest implemented and we would leave the site if they were. If that means we aren't proper swingers so be it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trying to get.my head around the Data Protection implications of the site wanting real name, address and an image of photo ID. One good hack and half the swingers in Britain could be blackmailed or outed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In over 6 years here, have never had a no show, never met a timewaster, so the site works fine for us. If its happening to you a lot OP, maybe change the way you do things. (Mr)

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Its stressful enough providing ID for club entry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I must not be a real swinger then cos I'd leave if they implemented any of your recommendations. I'D?? Get real! It's a bloody sex site I'm not applying for a passport. If you can't out the fakes using the tools that the site gives you and your own common sense then you only have yourself to blame.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
Forum Mod

over a year ago

My Own Little World

I'm sure all the details that Ashley Madison kept were solely for the use of the site owners. How did that end up??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What was the name of the site for adultery dating? Ashley Madison? That site got hacked and look at the fall out from that.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo

It would be a no for us.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo


"Something has got to be done

The site is becoming a joke fast!"

What is your definition of a fake? It may be the same as Admins so there is an option to report it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There will always be fakes fakes have addresses too, do u seriously think people are gona hand over personal details? Get real sites get hacked, take a look at what your doing wrong if you seem to be attracting fakes, theres plenty tools to be able to spot a fake biggest one being gut instinct

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By *inkylouiseWoman
over a year ago

Burnley

Think you have now discoverd change is never welcomed in forums or on the site thats why theres no point venting them take this site with a pinch of salt. Yes it does spoil the site but these days to give out any id on a web site isent a good idea.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Think you have now discoverd change is never welcomed in forums or on the site thats why theres no point venting them take this site with a pinch of salt. Yes it does spoil the site but these days to give out any id on a web site isent a good idea."

Think you're right there

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo


"Think you have now discoverd change is never welcomed in forums or on the site thats why theres no point venting them take this site with a pinch of salt. Yes it does spoil the site but these days to give out any id on a web site isent a good idea."

You contradict yourself there, you say no point asking for change as people dont welcome it in here, then disagree with what she suggested. You didnt welcome it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this problem is easily solved....if you don't like the site and how it's run, use another site that you do like

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo

Suggestions are fine though, thats what this section is for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My experience so far with time wasters has mainly been down to newbies on here who join for a day then disappear. So as others suggested use the tools available block newbies etc who wants to put themselves in a situation such as Ashley Madison??

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Suggestions are fine though, thats what this section is for "

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By *kindofmagicXXXMan
over a year ago

Bristol

No chance. Big brother

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I must not be a real swinger then cos I'd leave if they implemented any of your recommendations. I'D?? Get real! It's a bloody sex site I'm not applying for a passport. If you can't out the fakes using the tools that the site gives you and your own common sense then you only have yourself to blame."

I quite agree! This is a fun site there's no way I would provide such personal information.

I've been here on/off for 6yrs. Never once had a no show or come across a fake! I think you need to look at how you're using the site!!

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By *lighty1Woman
over a year ago

You Dont Need to Know, right now

I find the site works fine as it is, and in 4 years on this and other sites, I have never had a 'no-show'. I just use my own common sense and the tools the site has given us, to make sure that I don't engage with the so-called fakes. I'm certainly not going to give my address and ID to the site, as I don't want the site owners spending time and money on actioning your suggestions. This would just lead to the end of Fab being a free site.

If other (pay) site work better for you, then you can use those sites. Or you can stay here, and use your filters to prevent people contacting you, if they aren't photo-verified and site supporters. That way, the site works like you want it to.

And if you're worried about people robbing your photos then don't put any up that you aren't prepared to have viewed by everyone. This is the internet, and once you've put an image up, it's there forever. There is no way to stop people from copying your pictures, so it's YOUR responsibility for what pictures of you get seen.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley


"Think you have now discoverd change is never welcomed in forums or on the site thats why theres no point venting them take this site with a pinch of salt. Yes it does spoil the site but these days to give out any id on a web site isent a good idea.

Think you're right there"

There you go start your own website between the both of you, you only need to disagree on one point.

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By *hocko87Man
over a year ago

dublin

U will always get fakes on every site cos I was on other sites n there were worse fakes on it . It's very hard to eke fakes off sites IDE say .

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By *hocko87Man
over a year ago

dublin

I've found pay site worse to b honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To stop the d*unk weekend fakes it could be an idea to put on hold new accounts for 48 hours and to be deleted by fab if not logged into with 7 days.

Loads appear saying just looking or fancy a fuck now and the account never gets logged into again.

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

Fake people can do all those, so how exactly does that stop fakes?

Im genuine and wouldnt do any of the above, if this site asked me to do that I would leave, so how does your method make site better, when it will make genuine people leave

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage


"Well the info would only be available to the site owners wouldn't it!

It would just stop picture theives making profiles to stalk and rob pictures!

Don't see why it would be a problem as other sites do this! "

And whats to stop hackers getting info.

That happens just look at that other site that got hacked and identities revealed

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage


"How is that spoiling the site it would be improving it the way we see it!

well maybe if they just implanted the part where you can only view profiles after being verified and becoming a site supporter!"

And how do they get verified if cant view profiles to meet someone to get verified.

Photo verification is easily faked so thats not the solution.

Common sense is only solution

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By *luffy_bunniesCouple
over a year ago

Ilkeston

I would question the way you are using the site, rather that trying to "fix" it with extremely odd ideas.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

There is no way I would five up those kind of personal details to anyone other than an organisation who spends tons of money on data security.

Personal data is hard currency to fraudsters. I'd rather spot a fake than risk my identity

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

1. There are perfectly good ways of avoiding " fakes"

2. People would leave the site in droves if it demanded the IDs you suggest. Honest as I am sure the site owners are; do you really think that they could keep all those ID data confidential? Banks can't; and they spend billions of pounds on Internet security;

And unless they were able to physically check the ORIGINAL passports/ driving licences etc, the verification would be no better; fake driving licences and passports are easily available ; they can be detected with the proper equipment , as used by the police and border agency, but not by Joe Public.

Stop fussing and deal with it yourself ....

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol


"How is that spoiling the site it would be improving it the way we see it!

well maybe if they just implanted the part where you can only view profiles after being verified and becoming a site supporter!"

Then how would anyone new ever be able to see, message and meet someone in order to get verified? Only people who have already met would be able to meet. The logic doesn't work. Oh, and if ID were required I would never, ever have joined up. No data is totally secure these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends on how you define fakes....but as this is usually people who do not meet. Or in some people's views..married men pretending to be single...then the OPs suggestions would have no effect.

I've been on three other sites before settling on FAB as being by far the best.

None of them asked for such detailed ID. They did have various things in place....and just as many "Fakes" .

There have been many posts on here mentioning fakes....but that often means...someone who won't meet the author of the post. Or someone who stops chatting for whatever reason they may have...and that's just their right.

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By *ebedee2009Man
over a year ago

South Croydon

As a single guy (Yes, one of those much maligned/derided members of society) who has been on the site for a few years, here's my penn'orth.

Firstly, you don't get those veri's without a bit of blood, sweat and tears-other bodily fluids are available.

Secondly, I worked my chops in chat when I first joined, a bit of politeness, decent banter and non use of fuckwit txt spk bruv innit apparently go a long way...

Lastly, the weekend 48 hour non contact suggestion is probably one of the best suggestions since , hang on, a Gentleman doesn't tell!

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

. Why would anyone be worried about fakes ?. As fakes do not bother writing detailed or interesting profiles with good pictures , no one is compelling you to contact fakes . That is a decision which you made yourself . I prefer to avoid contacting fakes .

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By *ny1localMan
over a year ago

READING

[Removed by poster at 02/02/16 19:38:20]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here's hoping the site owners ignore, delete and perhaps block!

V xxx

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By *andomfodCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Yeah we'd be gone. Not only wold I refuse to upload my driving license or passport to any server, N doesn't possess either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To join clubs you have to give ID so just the same really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To join clubs you have to give ID so just the same really "

Not all clubs require or ask for id

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By *manda63Woman
over a year ago

Southampton


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

Id have to leave if photo id became compulsory. I don't have any and being photo verified should be enough. Paid up site supporters too. And not fakes either!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we fakes should stand united....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How is that spoiling the site it would be improving it the way we see it!

well maybe if they just implanted the part where you can only view profiles after being verified and becoming a site supporter!"

That didn't take long, 5 comments in and your changing your stance already.

Fakes are simple to spot and avoid if you use your eyes and your brain instead of your genitals.

I wouldn't join any site that had your demands as a prerequisite for joining.

So its a no from me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well the info would only be available to the site owners wouldn't it!

It would just stop picture theives making profiles to stalk and rob pictures!

Don't see why it would be a problem as other sites do this! "

We are/have been members of other sites, but things you have mentioned (like ID validation) are choices, not compulsory - and they are pay sites, who have the income, and the fancy website to boot.

As with all sites, they provide tools for the end-user to use to how they want to use the site they are on.

But, it still comes down to YOU as to how you pick/choose and find your matches and ensure the people you contact are real or right for you.

We dont have any issues with this site as it is, because it's 100% free to use (we have no need to "donate" for extra pictures etc).

Don't get this picture stealers either, as anyone who sees your profile will automatically download your images via their browser.. and it stores them (without their knowledge - thats how peados get caught, when they take their computer to go get fixed, and how the police catch peoples illegal online activities)

This happens with any picture you see in your browser on the internet - it's how the internet and browsers work. Don't want people to have access to an image, then dont upload any - they are not private in the slightest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never play with people who are non verified or only have been verified by cam. I'd like to see a solid profile and solid verifications, they more times than not indicate that the user(s) are actually here to have fun and therefore not a time waster... Not failed me yet!

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By *orthyorkypairCouple
over a year ago

North Yorkshire


"I think this problem is easily solved....if you don't like the site and how it's run, use another site that you do like "

this says it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By *orthyorkypairCouple
over a year ago

North Yorkshire


"I think we fakes should stand united...."

or perhaps we should just fake off lol lol lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

. It will never happen as it opens a huge can of worms with regards to data protection and freedom of information requests from anyone !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sharing my personal I'd

Verified n genuine clearly displayed verifications

Hackers are about, it's bad enough as it is on the site without giving ur personal details

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For us, one of the biggest attractions of this site over others is the anonymity.

Almost every week we see on the news another huge website operation (talk talk, adobe, ashley madison, etc) that's been hacked and data stolen and, with due respect to Admin's no doubt excellent technical capabilities, we simply wouldn't trust a relatively small operation like Fab with our personal data.

Besides which, the op's proposal is addressing a problem we hardy ever encounter.

Fake profiles are usually very easy to spot, and if you have a rigorous approach to selection it's unlikely you'll be bothered by them often.

In other words, the solution lies in the hands of the individual user. If you're swamped by fakes, you're doing something wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

On reflection, I think you're right op, so I'm going to start my own brand new site, just for real swingers.

Send me copies of your driving licenses, passports, bank account details and 3 seperately documents that prove proof of residence.

Of course if you want a couples profile I'll need the driving licenses and passports for both of you.

If one of you doesn't drive or doesn't have a passport you're obviously fakes and can fuck off.

I'd still like your bank account details and PIN number though.

Please submit your application to;

Ipromisenottoscamyou.com

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By *lighty1Woman
over a year ago

You Dont Need to Know, right now


"To join clubs you have to give ID so just the same really "

It's not the same at all!

At a swingers club, the members have no control over who else is in the club at the same time as them. So I support clubs who ask for ID (as people would think twice about breaking the law if they knew the police could track them down).

On Fab, we all have 100% control over who we choose to meet. We do not put ourselves at any risk by merely joining the site. And, as most of the above posters have said, by using the site tools, common sense and our own personal checks we can ensure we don't go anywhere near someone who we aren't 100% sure about.

There is no need to impose the burden and cost of this additional and very costly process on the whole site - Fab works fine just as it is.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

We would leave the site as dont think it needs such personal info

You can tell who the fakes are by looking at the veris

As for newbies coming and going perhaps they decide the site isn't for them

Everyone should have a choice to remain anonymous

People just need to set filters so only people with desired veris can see there profile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We think the site is wonderful. Never had a bad meet, people always turn up.

Just be sensible, there are plenty of filters to use. Chat on the phone first before agreeing to meet.

Fake profiles stand out like a sore thumb.

The sites free, just enjoy it

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"We think the site is wonderful. Never had a bad meet, people always turn up.

Just be sensible, there are plenty of filters to use. Chat on the phone first before agreeing to meet.

Fake profiles stand out like a sore thumb.

The sites free, just enjoy it "

. Excellent post and my thoughts exactly . Who cares about the fakes ..

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By *quirrelMan
over a year ago

East Manchester

Your request is unreasonable and unworkable. It would lead to a mass exodus of people, there would be less people to play with not more. Remember Ashley Madison, their system was hacked and their database was opened for all to see. So what if it was a site for cheaters, their system was hacked by people whose ideas of sexual morality might extend to swingers too. would anyone be comfortable with the finger pointing and whispering about what you do in your personal life?

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By *ony_cluedoMan
over a year ago

Belfast

The site is a business existing to make money for the owners. They need as any members as possible. If I went to join this site and it asked for ID, address or anything personal then I simply wouldn't join it. I'm sure most others are the same. The owners need the site to be as easy as possible to join to get people in, see what it's about then hopefully become a paying member.

Addressing fakes needs to occur after they join.

Perhaps deleting non-verified profiles after a period of time if they haven't been logged into.

Perhaps giving everyone a month free to try the site then requiring you to become a Silver or Gold member at least once. If you don't the profile is deleted. If you do then you are a paid member for however long and don't need to renew after that if you don't want to.

Or if after whatever period of time, if the profile text doesn't contain at least a certain n number of words then it is deleted.

Personally, I haven't had many no-shows and those I did were near the start of my time of site. I have a feel now when chatting to someone. You just know early on if they are on the level or not. The current system does work to an extant but you need a little common sense to run along side it too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh great, that sounds a very safe site to join, no fakes at last ! Where do I send all my details??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm still waiting for the op to send me their details and apply for membership to my new "fake free guaranteed" site.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

I would leave also - sorry. It would send my id . I am meet vari but a multitude of people in both south east and north west

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage


"To join clubs you have to give ID so just the same really "

not all clubs require ID and not all take copies of iD

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage

People need to take responsibility for their own actions, if they waste time talking to fakes, who is to blame, the fake, or the person responding to the fake.

If people don't take reasonable steps to find out authenticity of a person, then why bitch then that person proves to be not real.

People need to stop griping about fakes and start looking at why they converse and attract the fakes in the first place.

people also need to stop blaming others, the site etc, take responsibility yourself

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I'm not photo verified. Does that make me a fake? If I am, I'm a damn good one.

So you think making people pay £5 site supporter fee will stop fakes?

Where in naive land so you live?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People need to take responsibility for their own actions, if they waste time talking to fakes, who is to blame, the fake, or the person responding to the fake.

If people don't take reasonable steps to find out authenticity of a person, then why bitch then that person proves to be not real.

People need to stop griping about fakes and start looking at why they converse and attract the fakes in the first place.

people also need to stop blaming others, the site etc, take responsibility yourself"

Totally agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with everything you have said and I don't think the honest straight people on here would object to providing proof of who they are there's so many fakes on here that I'm beginning to think I'm wasting my time and would be better off on some of the other sites around

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree with everything you have said and I don't think the honest straight people on here would object to providing proof of who they are there's so many fakes on here that I'm beginning to think I'm wasting my time and would be better off on some of the other sites around "

I don't think you've read through the thread.

There are people suggesting making fab a pay site requiring proof of I'D to join, these are the people have been dissapointed with their planned meets.

I can't see anyone else agreeing, anywhere. In fact exactly the opposite and stating they would leave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The site is fine as it is, it provides you with all the tools you need to have fun without much hassle.

You want proof?

We have been on here over 7 years and have NEVER had a no-show!

Treat every single profile as fake unless proven otherwise, and don't be in such a rush to play that it clouds your judgement. "

Never had a no show either. It's easy. Just use your common sense!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find the site works fine as it is, and in 4 years on this and other sites, I have never had a 'no-show'. I just use my own common sense and the tools the site has given us, to make sure that I don't engage with the so-called fakes. I'm certainly not going to give my address and ID to the site, as I don't want the site owners spending time and money on actioning your suggestions. This would just lead to the end of Fab being a free site.

If other (pay) site work better for you, then you can use those sites. Or you can stay here, and use your filters to prevent people contacting you, if they aren't photo-verified and site supporters. That way, the site works like you want it to.

And if you're worried about people robbing your photos then don't put any up that you aren't prepared to have viewed by everyone. This is the internet, and once you've put an image up, it's there forever. There is no way to stop people from copying your pictures, so it's YOUR responsibility for what pictures of you get seen."

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By *ack with a bangCouple
over a year ago

Hastings


"I never play with people who are non verified or only have been verified by cam. I'd like to see a solid profile and solid verifications, they more times than not indicate that the user(s) are actually here to have fun and therefore not a time waster... Not failed me yet! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't be handing over any I D

Security can always be breached

I am photo verified

Meet verified

After that it's down to ur gut feeling bout meeting peeps

I do think newbies should be restricted on the site a little bit more

Maybe they should have exactly how long ur a member rather than just saying over a year

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By *onnie and JohnCouple
over a year ago

WILTSHIRE


"People need to take responsibility for their own actions, if they waste time talking to fakes, who is to blame, the fake, or the person responding to the fake.

If people don't take reasonable steps to find out authenticity of a person, then why bitch then that person proves to be not real.

People need to stop griping about fakes and start looking at why they converse and attract the fakes in the first place.

people also need to stop blaming others, the site etc, take responsibility yourself"

YEP most of this...connie x

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo


"I agree with everything you have said and I don't think the honest straight people on here would object to providing proof of who they are there's so many fakes on here that I'm beginning to think I'm wasting my time and would be better off on some of the other sites around

I don't think you've read through the thread.

There are people suggesting making fab a pay site requiring proof of I'D to join, these are the people have been dissapointed with their planned meets.

I can't see anyone else agreeing, anywhere. In fact exactly the opposite and stating they would leave."

He could be agreeing with the OP going by the wording of his post.

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By *ilandlarryCouple
over a year ago

more north lincs than mids!

I've not read all the replies but No no no no no! From us.

Also, fakes also have cameras, names and addresses and ID. What happens when they are verified as genuine in the manner you suggest but actually aren't?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I never play with people who are non verified or only have been verified by cam. I'd like to see a solid profile and solid verifications, they more times than not indicate that the user(s) are actually here to have fun and therefore not a time waster... Not failed me yet!

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France


"I agree with everything you have said and I don't think the honest straight people on here would object to providing proof of who they are there's so many fakes on here that I'm beginning to think I'm wasting my time and would be better off on some of the other sites around "

Yes I would most definately refuse point blank to give any details such as passport or personal ID to any " amateur" run website;

The risks of ID theft are too great .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well the info would only be available to the site owners wouldn't it!

It would just stop picture theives making profiles to stalk and rob pictures!

Don't see why it would be a problem as other sites do this! "

why don't you just use the other sites then, if they have a better verification system?

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage


"I agree with everything you have said and I don't think the honest straight people on here would object to providing proof of who they are there's so many fakes on here that I'm beginning to think I'm wasting my time and would be better off on some of the other sites around "

wrong, I am honest, genuine, over the years and over 4 different accounts I have had over 500 verifications, and no way under this sun will I ever photo verify myself or upload my Identification

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

Hahaah hahhaha funny ...why not ban you and then the problem is solved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's safe to conclude the site owner for fear of alienating a good 95% of its current users won't be taking this advice on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

Somewhat naive to assume your details would be safe with any site. Have you not seen the Ashley Madison scandal ! Would never trust any site with my full details

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree with everything you have said and I don't think the honest straight people on here would object to providing proof of who they are there's so many fakes on here that I'm beginning to think I'm wasting my time and would be better off on some of the other sites around

I don't think you've read through the thread.

There are people suggesting making fab a pay site requiring proof of I'D to join, these are the people have been dissapointed with their planned meets.

I can't see anyone else agreeing, anywhere. In fact exactly the opposite and stating they would leave.

He could be agreeing with the OP going by the wording of his post."

Good point......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The experience you get from this site is a reflection of a number of factors including the amount of common sense you apply to your interaction with it.

If you get a poor experience it is I feel more a reflection of your way of interacting with it than the site itself.

No change to the rules will help you interact better, only you can achieve that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They should just add an option to be identification verified then it upto the individuals choice and if you chose to do it, would make you profile more appealing to other members and would help newbies, after a while gets easy to spot fakes and genuine swinging couples we find if there genuine they wont have and issue sharing phone number and if they do have a problem then be wary and alway try have a phone chat with all parties involved b4 actually meeting we find this best way to wean out the fakes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely fakes and time wasting w***kers (TWW) are just part of the on line swingers scene, no matter what is put in place they [TWW] will always be there like all unwanted low life. As for providing more private information no way, get real, information that is essential e.g. banking gets "hacked" daily without volunteering info that will not make the sliest difference !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Slightest"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well the info would only be available to the site owners wouldn't it!

It would just stop picture theives making profiles to stalk and rob pictures!

Don't see why it would be a problem as other sites do this! "

wouldnt stop any pics from being taken - people take pics off screens with phones - screenshots etc - once your pic is on the net its open to anybody

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Welcome to the digital age. Fakes aplenty on any version of social media

I am who I say I am

I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well the info would only be available to the site owners wouldn't it!

It would just stop picture theives making profiles to stalk and rob pictures!

Don't see why it would be a problem as other sites do this!

Completely agree I'm not providing a website with details that can be hacked and used for fraud. Fake profiles can quite easily be spotted and blocked .

So if people wish to do so let them join the other sites. You may not see it as a problem and that's your opinion, mine is I wouldn't provide a copy of my ID to any website. Plus the risks of hacking, no thanks."

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By *ihimbiherCouple
over a year ago

lightwater

How to stop so many fakes???

Simple, charge Everyone a fee....that gets rid of 62% of them, second ban all single profiles..... It's a swing site not a fuck site and yes there is a MASSIVE difference.....job done. Our work here is finished

X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the site as it is, fake profiles and time wasters are easily spotted, but if your struggling use your filters to stop any non verified/new users etc, from contacting you"

Exactly this

And if any do manage to get in contact,you are not obliged to reply to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How to stop so many fakes???

Simple, charge Everyone a fee....that gets rid of 62% of them, second ban all single profiles..... It's a swing site not a fuck site and yes there is a MASSIVE difference.....job done. Our work here is finished

X"

But your profile says you are looking for single men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How to stop so many fakes???

Simple, charge Everyone a fee....that gets rid of 62% of them, second ban all single profiles..... It's a swing site not a fuck site and yes there is a MASSIVE difference.....job done. Our work here is finished

X

But your profile says you are looking for single men"

Never let the details get in the way of a post

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By *ihimbiherCouple
over a year ago

lightwater


"How to stop so many fakes???

Simple, charge Everyone a fee....that gets rid of 62% of them, second ban all single profiles..... It's a swing site not a fuck site and yes there is a MASSIVE difference.....job done. Our work here is finished

X

But your profile says you are looking for single men"

pmsl busted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well 110% real ....timewasters and fakes are a problem on this site and others ..don't think you will ever stop them unfortunately. .just have to learn how to spot them and block....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How to stop so many fakes???

Simple, charge Everyone a fee....that gets rid of 62% of them, second ban all single profiles..... It's a swing site not a fuck site and yes there is a MASSIVE difference.....job done. Our work here is finished

X

But your profile says you are looking for single men

Never let the details get in the way of a post "

Is there a Facepalm emoji?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How to stop so many fakes???

Simple, charge Everyone a fee....that gets rid of 62% of them, second ban all single profiles..... It's a swing site not a fuck site and yes there is a MASSIVE difference.....job done. Our work here is finished

X"

Swinging IS fucking. Perhaps you are doing it wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never met a fake. What are they like? Any good in bed?

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By *angbang junkieCouple
over a year ago

Ilkeston

People spend so much time and effort whining about "fakes". Get over it. With some common sense it really isn't hard to spot/avoid them. As someone else said, you have all the tools you need, use them!

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By *onnie and JohnCouple
over a year ago

WILTSHIRE

yep it come's down to thinking with your brain and using common sense. connie x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To us the site has certainly changed for the worse since the last time we were on here. Every day in the forums there are new threads about fakers and time wasters. Many are from people who've turned up at meets only to find no one there. Yes, maybe they should have been more cautious, but shame on those who put that person in that position to start with. And shame on those who point the finger at them for being guilty of nothing worse than believing someone was for real. After all this is suppose to be a site to meet people from.

In the last few weeks we either had a string of bad luck, or else the number of fakers and time wasters we've come across is clearly indictiative of something being very wrong with the site at the moment.

We did post in the forums about our experiences and kept within guidelines for posts. In under 24 hours we had over 50 replies that mostly reflected our own experiences with similar accounts of similar issues before admin deleted the thread.

Surly not everyone posting that the site has problems at the moment can be wrong?

We would agree with earlier posts that fees would remove some of the fakes. Which would be a start. We've also seen a number of profiles where people are posting eye catching photos of toned abs etc that don't match the photos which are then sent in PMs. That's deception. We've reported two, but as always nothing seems to have been done about it. Photo verification is a nice idea, but does admin ever go back to check that photos then added match up with the photo used to verify a user?

We also seen an awful lot more Bi and Bicurious guys on here of late. Now, that fine and everyone has the right to express and enjoy their own sexuality. But in a forum post the other day an openly bi guy made an interesting of observation in that he sees many of the same profiles on gay meet sites and, as he puts it, "these guys are WAY past being curious."

There will always be people on fab who have no intention of meeting people and every intention of string people along for whatever kind of pleasure they get out of doing so, but at the moment there seems to be very little interest in trying to redress the balance and get FAB back to what it once was.

Sadly we are pretty sure we will get roasted by certain people over what we've written; we might even get a forum posting ban for ruffling feathers, but we have just as much right to express our position as everyone else and to do some without being attacked for doing so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To us the site has certainly changed for the worse since the last time we were on here. Every day in the forums there are new threads about fakers and time wasters. Many are from people who've turned up at meets only to find no one there. Yes, maybe they should have been more cautious, but shame on those who put that person in that position to start with. And shame on those who point the finger at them for being guilty of nothing worse than believing someone was for real. After all this is suppose to be a site to meet people from.

In the last few weeks we either had a string of bad luck, or else the number of fakers and time wasters we've come across is clearly indictiative of something being very wrong with the site at the moment.

We did post in the forums about our experiences and kept within guidelines for posts. In under 24 hours we had over 50 replies that mostly reflected our own experiences with similar accounts of similar issues before admin deleted the thread.

Surly not everyone posting that the site has problems at the moment can be wrong?

We would agree with earlier posts that fees would remove some of the fakes. Which would be a start. We've also seen a number of profiles where people are posting eye catching photos of toned abs etc that don't match the photos which are then sent in PMs. That's deception. We've reported two, but as always nothing seems to have been done about it. Photo verification is a nice idea, but does admin ever go back to check that photos then added match up with the photo used to verify a user?

We also seen an awful lot more Bi and Bicurious guys on here of late. Now, that fine and everyone has the right to express and enjoy their own sexuality. But in a forum post the other day an openly bi guy made an interesting of observation in that he sees many of the same profiles on gay meet sites and, as he puts it, "these guys are WAY past being curious."

There will always be people on fab who have no intention of meeting people and every intention of string people along for whatever kind of pleasure they get out of doing so, but at the moment there seems to be very little interest in trying to redress the balance and get FAB back to what it once was.

Sadly we are pretty sure we will get roasted by certain people over what we've written; we might even get a forum posting ban for ruffling feathers, but we have just as much right to express our position as everyone else and to do some without being attacked for doing so. "

Why would you get a ban for voicing your thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To us the site has certainly changed for the worse since the last time we were on here. Every day in the forums there are new threads about fakers and time wasters. Many are from people who've turned up at meets only to find no one there. Yes, maybe they should have been more cautious, but shame on those who put that person in that position to start with. And shame on those who point the finger at them for being guilty of nothing worse than believing someone was for real. After all this is suppose to be a site to meet people from.

In the last few weeks we either had a string of bad luck, or else the number of fakers and time wasters we've come across is clearly indictiative of something being very wrong with the site at the moment.

We did post in the forums about our experiences and kept within guidelines for posts. In under 24 hours we had over 50 replies that mostly reflected our own experiences with similar accounts of similar issues before admin deleted the thread.

Surly not everyone posting that the site has problems at the moment can be wrong?

We would agree with earlier posts that fees would remove some of the fakes. Which would be a start. We've also seen a number of profiles where people are posting eye catching photos of toned abs etc that don't match the photos which are then sent in PMs. That's deception. We've reported two, but as always nothing seems to have been done about it. Photo verification is a nice idea, but does admin ever go back to check that photos then added match up with the photo used to verify a user?

We also seen an awful lot more Bi and Bicurious guys on here of late. Now, that fine and everyone has the right to express and enjoy their own sexuality. But in a forum post the other day an openly bi guy made an interesting of observation in that he sees many of the same profiles on gay meet sites and, as he puts it, "these guys are WAY past being curious."

There will always be people on fab who have no intention of meeting people and every intention of string people along for whatever kind of pleasure they get out of doing so, but at the moment there seems to be very little interest in trying to redress the balance and get FAB back to what it once was.

Sadly we are pretty sure we will get roasted by certain people over what we've written; we might even get a forum posting ban for ruffling feathers, but we have just as much right to express our position as everyone else and to do some without being attacked for doing so.

Why would you get a ban for voicing your thoughts?"

It's happened to other people in the past when they've been critical of the site or admin. Normally the ban is 2 days.

TBH I am surprised this thread has been closed by a moderator or even deleted.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"

It's happened to other people in the past when they've been critical of the site or admin. Normally the ban is 2 days.

TBH I am surprised this thread has been closed by a moderator or even deleted.

g"

This thread proves you wrong, on both points

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By *oungWiganBiMan
over a year ago

Wigan

Full address and photo ID on a sex contacts site? There'd be no members left you loon!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

It's happened to other people in the past when they've been critical of the site or admin. Normally the ban is 2 days.

TBH I am surprised this thread has been closed by a moderator or even deleted.

g

This thread proves you wrong, on both points

"

I think someone's looking for a trip to the step just to say "told you so".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

good luck ,I wouldn't give my details

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over a year ago


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

Not everyone has a driving licence or passport..

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover

Using the filters and my common sense has worked fine for me these last four years...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We also seen an awful lot more Bi and Bicurious guys on here of late. Now, that fine and everyone has the right to express and enjoy their own sexuality. But in a forum post the other day an openly bi guy made an interesting of observation in that he sees many of the same profiles on gay meet sites and, as he puts it, "these guys are WAY past being curious."

"

You know that bisexual men like both women AND men, right? So being on a gay site wouldn't be unusual for a bisexual man because they like sleeping with men?

Or are you just saying that people who forget to update their profiles from bi-curious to bisexual are somehow fake and bad for the site? If so, there are a lot of women you need to get rid of too. I get contacted all the time by bi-curious women who are clearly an awful lot more than just curious. In fact, id say they're very experienced generally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

I disagree.

I dont see how any of those things will stop timewaster plus everyones definition of a timewaster is different.

Plys no way will i give a swingers site my home details !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What law is being broken ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Something has got to be done

The site is becoming a joke fast!"

Well if you feel that way then leave the site, easy peasy

You say other sites have the rules you want regarding verification so use those sites instead.

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By *oxesMan
over a year ago

Southend, Essex


"Think you have now discoverd change is never welcomed in forums or on the site thats why theres no point venting them take this site with a pinch of salt. Yes it does spoil the site but these days to give out any id on a web site isent a good idea.

Think you're right there"

Its not that change is the problem. Although people do grumble. The changes you suggest could be possibly dangerous.

One easy change to make is delete accounts that have not been both verified facially and by meet/webcam after a year.

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"Think you have now discoverd change is never welcomed in forums or on the site thats why theres no point venting them take this site with a pinch of salt. Yes it does spoil the site but these days to give out any id on a web site isent a good idea.

Think you're right there

Its not that change is the problem. Although people do grumble. The changes you suggest could be possibly dangerous.

One easy change to make is delete accounts that have not been both verified facially and by meet/webcam after a year."

those are not so much fake as inactive...

I think arbitrary deletion of accounts isn't desirable or necessary....filters judgment and common sense are your best tools

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure all the details that Ashley Madison kept were solely for the use of the site owners. How did that end up??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think you have now discoverd change is never welcomed in forums or on the site thats why theres no point venting them take this site with a pinch of salt. Yes it does spoil the site but these days to give out any id on a web site isent a good idea.

Think you're right there

Its not that change is the problem. Although people do grumble. The changes you suggest could be possibly dangerous.

One easy change to make is delete accounts that have not been both verified facially and by meet/webcam after a year."

Ive spoke to loads of people who arent verified but have met loads they just dont feel the need to tell people they are real, dont see the big problem either, use your common sense when chatting and filters etc ive never had a problem and thats what i do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We also seen an awful lot more Bi and Bicurious guys on here of late. Now, that fine and everyone has the right to express and enjoy their own sexuality. But in a forum post the other day an openly bi guy made an interesting of observation in that he sees many of the same profiles on gay meet sites and, as he puts it, "these guys are WAY past being curious."

You know that bisexual men like both women AND men, right? So being on a gay site wouldn't be unusual for a bisexual man because they like sleeping with men?

Or are you just saying that people who forget to update their profiles from bi-curious to bisexual are somehow fake and bad for the site? If so, there are a lot of women you need to get rid of too. I get contacted all the time by bi-curious women who are clearly an awful lot more than just curious. In fact, id say they're very experienced generally."

We didn't say forget. We are talking about deliberate attempts to mislead - and there is a huge difference. Even if they did "forget" that is a breach of the sites T&Cs

5.3 You must ensure that your profile and any other Content is and remains complete, accurate and is not misleading in any way and that you will update it so that it remains so.

We didn't once mention bi women in our post and suggest you re-read it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think there should be an option that you can tick so only verified people can see your profile.

we have no interest in chatting or meeting unverified, so we would prefer they cannot even see us.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo


"To us the site has certainly changed for the worse since the last time we were on here. Every day in the forums there are new threads about fakers and time wasters. Many are from people who've turned up at meets only to find no one there. Yes, maybe they should have been more cautious, but shame on those who put that person in that position to start with. And shame on those who point the finger at them for being guilty of nothing worse than believing someone was for real. After all this is suppose to be a site to meet people from.

. "

I agree with some of your post, it seems to be the in thing to blame the person being let down rather than the person who did the letting down. People get told a lot to change the way they are picking their meets and the common denominator is them etc, but you can't always be blamed for other people being time wasters and I am sure some can be convincing in what they say.

The good thing is Admin recognise that some people like to mess others about, so if someone doesnt turn up it is best to report it and let Admin take a look.

Another part of your post mentions pics being different than the person turning up....that is slightly harder for Admin to deal with as unless Admin go on the meet with you then they won't know, but, again if you report and it needs monitoring they will

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We also seen an awful lot more Bi and Bicurious guys on here of late. Now, that fine and everyone has the right to express and enjoy their own sexuality. But in a forum post the other day an openly bi guy made an interesting of observation in that he sees many of the same profiles on gay meet sites and, as he puts it, "these guys are WAY past being curious."

You know that bisexual men like both women AND men, right? So being on a gay site wouldn't be unusual for a bisexual man because they like sleeping with men?

Or are you just saying that people who forget to update their profiles from bi-curious to bisexual are somehow fake and bad for the site? If so, there are a lot of women you need to get rid of too. I get contacted all the time by bi-curious women who are clearly an awful lot more than just curious. In fact, id say they're very experienced generally.

We didn't say forget. We are talking about deliberate attempts to mislead - and there is a huge difference. Even if they did "forget" that is a breach of the sites T&Cs

5.3 You must ensure that your profile and any other Content is and remains complete, accurate and is not misleading in any way and that you will update it so that it remains so.

We didn't once mention bi women in our post and suggest you re-read it.

"

That was my point. You mentioned bi-curious men as being somehow bad or breaking the site rules, but not bi-curious women.

I mean, I understand that basically everyone wants to shag women and so nobody wants to put them off by saying they might be breaking rule 5.3, but by suggesting that bi-curious men are breaking rule 5.3 and not bi-curious women, you're being a teensy bit unfair there towards men.

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By *rittany22110Couple
over a year ago

France ; Brittany & Medoc

We agree. Passport / driving licence details, etc. are things that should never be divulged on the internet. And yes, we have to do it occasionally on Government websites, and they are as susceptible as any to hacking and data-theft by staff (no suggestion that anyone at fabswingers would steal data).

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By *ad SantaMan
over a year ago

Shipley

I am sure if they introduced a £10 joining fee and make photo verification compulsory it would deter most of the fakes.

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

When I joined five years ago, there were just as many moans about fakes and timewasters as there are now.

I can't help thinking a lot of us look back some years with rose-tinted spectacles. There were loads of people saying people hadn't turned up, that the 21 year glamour model they went to meet was actually a 60 year-old brickie called Des etc.

There's plenty of things wrong with the site and admin and mods get it wrong though. It might be worth trying doing what they do though - it's massively complicated, time-consuming and very often thankless. Just having to unpick the situations when someone has been reported could be enough to give anyone a migraine. Who's right/who's wrong etc.

I've seen mods ban people wrongly, but at the end of the day, these people are giving their time. All this and it's a free site for gawd's sake.

It's like a duck paddling on water - it seems pretty graceful on the face of it, but the legs are paddling furiously.

Perhaps those who feel it needs to be better might volunteer to get involved?

I have no connection to fab and any admin/mods. I just know running a site like this can be very hard-going and time-consuming.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am sure if they introduced a £10 joining fee and make photo verification compulsory it would deter most of the fakes. "

And it would deter many who will go on to meet as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am sure if they introduced a £10 joining fee and make photo verification compulsory it would deter most of the fakes. "

and us...We must be fakes, then...

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France


"I am sure if they introduced a £10 joining fee and make photo verification compulsory it would deter most of the fakes. "

Not in the slightest;

Fakes have £10 to spend; and with a bit of effort, can sort a photo verification.

It would get rid of about 25-50% of the genuine people, though .

In fact I think the proportion of fakes would rise .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd leave, no way I am willing to share those details and provide a copy of ID. I am photo verified and meet verified so that's enough for me to prove I'm not a fake.

"

I fully agree, there's no way I would share license or passport details online, or any other confidential details. Any website asking for those types of details, isn't one worth risking being part of.

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage


"How to stop so many fakes???

Simple, charge Everyone a fee....that gets rid of 62% of them, second ban all single profiles..... It's a swing site not a fuck site and yes there is a MASSIVE difference.....job done. Our work here is finished

X"

Really, without singles you couples wouldn't get your unicorns, oh and from fakes ive discovered and blocked, so far have all been couples accounts

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage


"

We also seen an awful lot more Bi and Bicurious guys on here of late. Now, that fine and everyone has the right to express and enjoy their own sexuality. But in a forum post the other day an openly bi guy made an interesting of observation in that he sees many of the same profiles on gay meet sites and, as he puts it, "these guys are WAY past being curious."

You know that bisexual men like both women AND men, right? So being on a gay site wouldn't be unusual for a bisexual man because they like sleeping with men?

Or are you just saying that people who forget to update their profiles from bi-curious to bisexual are somehow fake and bad for the site? If so, there are a lot of women you need to get rid of too. I get contacted all the time by bi-curious women who are clearly an awful lot more than just curious. In fact, id say they're very experienced generally.

We didn't say forget. We are talking about deliberate attempts to mislead - and there is a huge difference. Even if they did "forget" that is a breach of the sites T&Cs

5.3 You must ensure that your profile and any other Content is and remains complete, accurate and is not misleading in any way and that you will update it so that it remains so.

We didn't once mention bi women in our post and suggest you re-read it.

"

Misleading would be stating they are straight not bi, what does it matter whether says bicurious or bisexual, both terms mean bi

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By *eonsMan
over a year ago

thame

There are fakers in normal life, I still can't see why they do it but then if they create a fake profile they probberbly live a fake live.

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage


"I am sure if they introduced a £10 joining fee and make photo verification compulsory it would deter most of the fakes. "

Would deter genuine people to, i wouldn't pay a fee or photo verify yet I meet people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too questions

What laws do you believe are being broken?

And if I registered all the info you want eith the owners and then turn out fo be by sone definition fake. What action would be taken?

Then what about the Ashley madison mess. All that info held by the owners would nake the site a massive target to hackers not to mention the complexity of registering with data protection authority.

You could of course set up your own site. Run it your way come back in a year and let us know if your a financial success at running that site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Using common sense and some basic rules along with the features the site already provides fake profiles are very quickly found out.

Having been here many years with both single and couples profiles fakes have never been an issue.

As with anything if its too good to be true it more than likely is.

Just a though though maybe these people let you down because of an incompatibility with attitudes rather than them not being genuine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am sure if they introduced a £10 joining fee and make photo verification compulsory it would deter most of the fakes. "

It would also deter many others including us who prefer to keep the site free.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am sure if they introduced a £10 joining fee and make photo verification compulsory it would deter most of the fakes. "

As I've said before;

I'm going to start my own brand new site, just for real swingers.

Send me copies of your driving licenses, passports, bank account details and 3 seperately documents that prove proof of residence.

Of course if you want a couples profile I'll need the driving licenses and passports for both of you.

If one of you doesn't drive or doesn't have a passport you're obviously fakes and I don't want you on my site.

I'd still like your bank account details and PIN number though.

Please submit your application to;

Ipromisenottoscamyou.com

Don't forget to pay your £10 to get your guaranteed meets and Shags.

What could possibly go wrong......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I joined five years ago, there were just as many moans about fakes and timewasters as there are now.

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this - I don't think there has been any significant variation and I have been on and off for 6 years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am sure if they introduced a £10 joining fee and make photo verification compulsory it would deter most of the fakes. "

I've been on other paysites (LS and SH) and had more issue with timewasters on those than I have ever had on fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am sure if they introduced a £10 joining fee and make photo verification compulsory it would deter most of the fakes.

I've been on other paysites (LS and SH) and had more issue with timewasters on those than I have ever had on fab"

People are more dubious of pay sites due to the number of spam accounts set up by the owners. To do introduce the same to fab would make new members very dubious (as well as existing members)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There would be now way I'd be willing to give a copy of a drivers license or a passport. I don't own one anyway and I know of people who don't have both. As for the £10 there's already a charge on here, of you wish to pay it. In all walks of life, other websites etc, their are fakers! And as some people have mentioned, look at the hassle/fall out from Ashley Madison

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By *aster-GentleMan
over a year ago

PRESTON ,

Personally the easiest way of being verified on a site is when you enter your payment details to pay for the service. If we banned people using the site without being verified using this method even if only 1p was debited then this could resolve the issue with fake profiles.

People on this site are verified by picture verification and others. Interestingly enough lately verifications have not been getting through so maybe there is an issue?

The common sense approach is to report and block anyone you suspect of being a fake.

Incidentally define fake. Everyone has their own interpretation of what this entails.

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By *isdirtygirlWoman
over a year ago

Dublin

Can i suggest that only site supporters can avail of use of the forum to out fakes and multiple profiles? The reason im asking is that countless times for example one guy has returned under different guises and has said its free! And also forums can only be viewed by site supporters?. Surely those serious about using the site wouldnt mind paying 10 euro every 60 days for the added security. Id welcome this rule if it was introduced. just a suggestion and might need tweaking here and there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i suggest that only site supporters can avail of use of the forum to out fakes and multiple profiles? The reason im asking is that countless times for example one guy has returned under different guises and has said its free! And also forums can only be viewed by site supporters?. Surely those serious about using the site wouldnt mind paying 10 euro every 60 days for the added security. Id welcome this rule if it was introduced. just a suggestion and might need tweaking here and there."

Anyone can read the forums. They don't even have to have a profile.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France


"Can i suggest that only site supporters can avail of use of the forum to out fakes and multiple profiles? The reason im asking is that countless times for example one guy has returned under different guises and has said its free! And also forums can only be viewed by site supporters?. Surely those serious about using the site wouldnt mind paying 10 euro every 60 days for the added security. Id welcome this rule if it was introduced. just a suggestion and might need tweaking here and there."

What on earth are you talking about?

What has the forum got to do with so called fakes?

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By *isdirtygirlWoman
over a year ago

Dublin


"Can i suggest that only site supporters can avail of use of the forum to out fakes and multiple profiles? The reason im asking is that countless times for example one guy has returned under different guises and has said its free! And also forums can only be viewed by site supporters?. Surely those serious about using the site wouldnt mind paying 10 euro every 60 days for the added security. Id welcome this rule if it was introduced. just a suggestion and might need tweaking here and there.

Anyone can read the forums. They don't even have to have a profile. "

Maybe that needs looking at too...

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By *isdirtygirlWoman
over a year ago

Dublin


"Can i suggest that only site supporters can avail of use of the forum to out fakes and multiple profiles? The reason im asking is that countless times for example one guy has returned under different guises and has said its free! And also forums can only be viewed by site supporters?. Surely those serious about using the site wouldnt mind paying 10 euro every 60 days for the added security. Id welcome this rule if it was introduced. just a suggestion and might need tweaking here and there.

What on earth are you talking about?

What has the forum got to do with so called fakes?

"

Im not trying to rub you up the wrong way... using ip addresses as account security, might stop the fakes creating countless accounts and curb the fake profiles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i suggest that only site supporters can avail of use of the forum to out fakes and multiple profiles? The reason im asking is that countless times for example one guy has returned under different guises and has said its free! And also forums can only be viewed by site supporters?. Surely those serious about using the site wouldnt mind paying 10 euro every 60 days for the added security. Id welcome this rule if it was introduced. just a suggestion and might need tweaking here and there.

What on earth are you talking about?

What has the forum got to do with so called fakes?

Im not trying to rub you up the wrong way... using ip addresses as account security, might stop the fakes creating countless accounts and curb the fake profiles. "

I.p. addresses can be changed without too much bother don't believe everything that appears in t.v. shows

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By *lacksausageMan
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport


"So I've sent the owners of the site a message stating that the site needs changing to avoid losing genuine people as the site is made up of fakes!

I've recommended that the site ask for the following from users:

All users to provide name and address when registering (details only held by site owners)

All users to be photo verified and be verified by identity verification such as driving licence or passport!

All site users only able to view profiles once the above steps are completed and become site supporters!

I think these things would rapidly improve the site! Other sites have these things implemented and they don't seem to have half the trouble with fakes as this site is over run by them and this would help stop the law being broken!

Who agrees and let's see if we can get these changes sorted!

Real swingers won't have a problem with this as we sure don't!"

And while they are at it, £100 non refundable life membership fee or else you don't see shit, can't do shit.

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By *isdirtygirlWoman
over a year ago

Dublin


"Can i suggest that only site supporters can avail of use of the forum to out fakes and multiple profiles? The reason im asking is that countless times for example one guy has returned under different guises and has said its free! And also forums can only be viewed by site supporters?. Surely those serious about using the site wouldnt mind paying 10 euro every 60 days for the added security. Id welcome this rule if it was introduced. just a suggestion and might need tweaking here and there.

What on earth are you talking about?

What has the forum got to do with so called fakes?

Im not trying to rub you up the wrong way... using ip addresses as account security, might stop the fakes creating countless accounts and curb the fake profiles.

I.p. addresses can be changed without too much bother don't believe everything that appears in t.v. shows"

Im not saying ip addresses are the be all and end all of everything.id like an answer to the knobs that get banned but come back under different guises. Not only for me as a single woman but for couples too. Your suggestions will be most welcome

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East

We've had troubles just this week with fake profiles .. my partner said straight away it's a guy pretending to be the holy grail a single bi fem . one minute of a pic check back scan and it was confirmed as lifted from French milf porn site .." two minutes to check a pix" why can't the mods do a simply check ... they advertised on site for pix mods the other week ... ... We've had ours refused for being rude .. so we know they checked .. why can't they use a back scan search and out the fakes ...

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Use your message filters Block non-verified members and non-site supports from contacting you, and bingo you've implanted your own changes OP, it really is that simple. Then remember to merit some common sense, just because they've photo verified and paid a fiver doesn't necessarily mean they'll be genuine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i suggest that only site supporters can avail of use of the forum to out fakes and multiple profiles? The reason im asking is that countless times for example one guy has returned under different guises and has said its free! And also forums can only be viewed by site supporters?. Surely those serious about using the site wouldnt mind paying 10 euro every 60 days for the added security. Id welcome this rule if it was introduced. just a suggestion and might need tweaking here and there.

What on earth are you talking about?

What has the forum got to do with so called fakes?

Im not trying to rub you up the wrong way... using ip addresses as account security, might stop the fakes creating countless accounts and curb the fake profiles.

I.p. addresses can be changed without too much bother don't believe everything that appears in t.v. shows

Im not saying ip addresses are the be all and end all of everything.id like an answer to the knobs that get banned but come back under different guises. Not only for me as a single woman but for couples too. Your suggestions will be most welcome "

As said in an earlier post I don't have or ever had a problem on this site either as a single or as part of a couple. The site tools are there already we just need to use them blocking newbies is one tool but above all when it comes to dealing with fakes common sense is the key. If its too good to be true then it more than likely is.

Fab is a good site and unlike many others your free to make your own choices we just have to be adult about those choices we make. Many other pay sites don't even allow you to use the full site unless you pay more as a "premium" member.

Fab has been the one site I have stayed with for nearly a decade with verious profiles where as other more expensive ones haven't lasted the course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Use your message filters Block non-verified members and non-site supports from contacting you, and bingo you've implanted your own changes OP, it really is that simple. Then remember to merit some common sense, just because they've photo verified and paid a fiver doesn't necessarily mean they'll be genuine "

The point I've tried to make but put in a simpler way

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By *isdirtygirlWoman
over a year ago

Dublin


"Use your message filters Block non-verified members and non-site supports from contacting you, and bingo you've implanted your own changes OP, it really is that simple. Then remember to merit some common sense, just because they've photo verified and paid a fiver doesn't necessarily mean they'll be genuine "

Ill put meself in the shoes as a fake here,which im not. I would not pay 5 sterling or 10 euro to participate in being on the site. Is it not a detterent to charge to be a site supporter?. Im here over a year with filters in place with newbies and unverified users. Yet the knobs wait until they can avail of the forum to mail the ladies commenting!i block like others, profile removed and it goes on and on and the ladies know its the same guy. Pathetic for a guy to do you might say but its happening.

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"Use your message filters Block non-verified members and non-site supports from contacting you, and bingo you've implanted your own changes OP, it really is that simple. Then remember to merit some common sense, just because they've photo verified and paid a fiver doesn't necessarily mean they'll be genuine

Ill put meself in the shoes as a fake here,which im not. I would not pay 5 sterling or 10 euro to participate in being on the site. Is it not a detterent to charge to be a site supporter?. Im here over a year with filters in place with newbies and unverified users. Yet the knobs wait until they can avail of the forum to mail the ladies commenting!i block like others, profile removed and it goes on and on and the ladies know its the same guy. Pathetic for a guy to do you might say but its happening. "

You can still use the site, fake or no fake, without paying to be a site supporter....that's not an entry fee.

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By *isdirtygirlWoman
over a year ago

Dublin


"Use your message filters Block non-verified members and non-site supports from contacting you, and bingo you've implanted your own changes OP, it really is that simple. Then remember to merit some common sense, just because they've photo verified and paid a fiver doesn't necessarily mean they'll be genuine

Ill put meself in the shoes as a fake here,which im not. I would not pay 5 sterling or 10 euro to participate in being on the site. Is it not a detterent to charge to be a site supporter?. Im here over a year with filters in place with newbies and unverified users. Yet the knobs wait until they can avail of the forum to mail the ladies commenting!i block like others, profile removed and it goes on and on and the ladies know its the same guy. Pathetic for a guy to do you might say but its happening.

You can still use the site, fake or no fake, without paying to be a site supporter....that's not an entry fee."

Id pay ten euro to be on the site..truth!! Ive been a site supporter since i joined and miss the facility when it runs out. Would it not stop the fakes and multiple profiles by the same user if this was implemented? Maybe fabswingers shouldnt be a "free" site anymore. It ruins it for the serious folk here.

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"Use your message filters Block non-verified members and non-site supports from contacting you, and bingo you've implanted your own changes OP, it really is that simple. Then remember to merit some common sense, just because they've photo verified and paid a fiver doesn't necessarily mean they'll be genuine

Ill put meself in the shoes as a fake here,which im not. I would not pay 5 sterling or 10 euro to participate in being on the site. Is it not a detterent to charge to be a site supporter?. Im here over a year with filters in place with newbies and unverified users. Yet the knobs wait until they can avail of the forum to mail the ladies commenting!i block like others, profile removed and it goes on and on and the ladies know its the same guy. Pathetic for a guy to do you might say but its happening.

You can still use the site, fake or no fake, without paying to be a site supporter....that's not an entry fee.

Id pay ten euro to be on the site..truth!! Ive been a site supporter since i joined and miss the facility when it runs out. Would it not stop the fakes and multiple profiles by the same user if this was implemented? Maybe fabswingers shouldnt be a "free" site anymore. It ruins it for the serious folk here. "

I pay more than ten euros now to be a site supporter.

I find the site is fine as it is.

No need to throw the baby out with the bath water by charging a high entry fee.

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By *isdirtygirlWoman
over a year ago

Dublin


"Use your message filters Block non-verified members and non-site supports from contacting you, and bingo you've implanted your own changes OP, it really is that simple. Then remember to merit some common sense, just because they've photo verified and paid a fiver doesn't necessarily mean they'll be genuine

Ill put meself in the shoes as a fake here,which im not. I would not pay 5 sterling or 10 euro to participate in being on the site. Is it not a detterent to charge to be a site supporter?. Im here over a year with filters in place with newbies and unverified users. Yet the knobs wait until they can avail of the forum to mail the ladies commenting!i block like others, profile removed and it goes on and on and the ladies know its the same guy. Pathetic for a guy to do you might say but its happening.

You can still use the site, fake or no fake, without paying to be a site supporter....that's not an entry fee.

Id pay ten euro to be on the site..truth!! Ive been a site supporter since i joined and miss the facility when it runs out. Would it not stop the fakes and multiple profiles by the same user if this was implemented? Maybe fabswingers shouldnt be a "free" site anymore. It ruins it for the serious folk here.

I pay more than ten euros now to be a site supporter.

I find the site is fine as it is.

No need to throw the baby out with the bath water by charging a high entry fee."

Agreed so assuming you are here as a serious user,is it not better that 10 euro or 5 sterling is charged on signing up?...

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"Use your message filters Block non-verified members and non-site supports from contacting you, and bingo you've implanted your own changes OP, it really is that simple. Then remember to merit some common sense, just because they've photo verified and paid a fiver doesn't necessarily mean they'll be genuine

Ill put meself in the shoes as a fake here,which im not. I would not pay 5 sterling or 10 euro to participate in being on the site. Is it not a detterent to charge to be a site supporter?. Im here over a year with filters in place with newbies and unverified users. Yet the knobs wait until they can avail of the forum to mail the ladies commenting!i block like others, profile removed and it goes on and on and the ladies know its the same guy. Pathetic for a guy to do you might say but its happening.

You can still use the site, fake or no fake, without paying to be a site supporter....that's not an entry fee.

Id pay ten euro to be on the site..truth!! Ive been a site supporter since i joined and miss the facility when it runs out. Would it not stop the fakes and multiple profiles by the same user if this was implemented? Maybe fabswingers shouldnt be a "free" site anymore. It ruins it for the serious folk here.

I pay more than ten euros now to be a site supporter.

I find the site is fine as it is.

No need to throw the baby out with the bath water by charging a high entry fee.

Agreed so assuming you are here as a serious user,is it not better that 10 euro or 5 sterling is charged on signing up?..."

Personally I don't think an entry fee is required, but if one were applied, then it shouldn't be too high as to deter serious users....but then would it be enough to deter fakes?

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By *isdirtygirlWoman
over a year ago

Dublin


"Use your message filters Block non-verified members and non-site supports from contacting you, and bingo you've implanted your own changes OP, it really is that simple. Then remember to merit some common sense, just because they've photo verified and paid a fiver doesn't necessarily mean they'll be genuine

Ill put meself in the shoes as a fake here,which im not. I would not pay 5 sterling or 10 euro to participate in being on the site. Is it not a detterent to charge to be a site supporter?. Im here over a year with filters in place with newbies and unverified users. Yet the knobs wait until they can avail of the forum to mail the ladies commenting!i block like others, profile removed and it goes on and on and the ladies know its the same guy. Pathetic for a guy to do you might say but its happening.

You can still use the site, fake or no fake, without paying to be a site supporter....that's not an entry fee.

Id pay ten euro to be on the site..truth!! Ive been a site supporter since i joined and miss the facility when it runs out. Would it not stop the fakes and multiple profiles by the same user if this was implemented? Maybe fabswingers shouldnt be a "free" site anymore. It ruins it for the serious folk here.

I pay more than ten euros now to be a site supporter.

I find the site is fine as it is.

No need to throw the baby out with the bath water by charging a high entry fee.

Agreed so assuming you are here as a serious user,is it not better that 10 euro or 5 sterling is charged on signing up?...

Personally I don't think an entry fee is required, but if one were applied, then it shouldn't be too high as to deter serious users....but then would it be enough to deter fakes? "

Fakes create several accounts.. a fee applied would lessen that. Im not saying it would eradicate the problem but if i was a fake and setting up several accounts, id think twice at a 10 euro a pop...

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"Use your message filters Block non-verified members and non-site supports from contacting you, and bingo you've implanted your own changes OP, it really is that simple. Then remember to merit some common sense, just because they've photo verified and paid a fiver doesn't necessarily mean they'll be genuine

Guessing you've not used paid sites fakes account are rude on them these people do it for kicks and you don't think their happy to pay to get said kick, in the same way you choose to use this site to get your kicks

Ill put meself in the shoes as a fake here,which im not. I would not pay 5 sterling or 10 euro to participate in being on the site. Is it not a detterent to charge to be a site supporter?. Im here over a year with filters in place with newbies and unverified users. Yet the knobs wait until they can avail of the forum to mail the ladies commenting!i block like others, profile removed and it goes on and on and the ladies know its the same guy. Pathetic for a guy to do you might say but its happening. "

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France


"Can i suggest that only site supporters can avail of use of the forum to out fakes and multiple profiles? The reason im asking is that countless times for example one guy has returned under different guises and has said its free! And also forums can only be viewed by site supporters?. Surely those serious about using the site wouldnt mind paying 10 euro every 60 days for the added security. Id welcome this rule if it was introduced. just a suggestion and might need tweaking here and there.

What on earth are you talking about?

What has the forum got to do with so called fakes?

Im not trying to rub you up the wrong way... using ip addresses as account security, might stop the fakes creating countless accounts and curb the fake profiles. "

No it won't :

Anyone can change ( or hide) their ip.

For different reasons ( personal security/ banking etc) my ip changes every day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have yet to have any dealings with fakes.

Two reasons;

I use the tools already provided by the site.

I use the one thing not provided by the site, a touch of common sense.

If my time here was spoilt by the fakes, instead of moaning I'd leave.

Oddly enough, exactly what I've done with three other sites that charge more than £30 a month subscription. You want to see what pay sites are like, pm me and I'll point you in their direction.

Some of you don't have a clue......

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By *isdirtygirlWoman
over a year ago

Dublin


"Can i suggest that only site supporters can avail of use of the forum to out fakes and multiple profiles? The reason im asking is that countless times for example one guy has returned under different guises and has said its free! And also forums can only be viewed by site supporters?. Surely those serious about using the site wouldnt mind paying 10 euro every 60 days for the added security. Id welcome this rule if it was introduced. just a suggestion and might need tweaking here and there.

What on earth are you talking about?

What has the forum got to do with so called fakes?

Im not trying to rub you up the wrong way... using ip addresses as account security, might stop the fakes creating countless accounts and curb the fake profiles.

No it won't :

Anyone can change ( or hide) their ip.

For different reasons ( personal security/ banking etc) my ip changes every day."

Ok suggest another option..im all ears here..

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Simple solution if you feels the site is so flawed is to use the delete account options and leave!

For the ones of us that have success by using the tools provided and common sense don't worry we'll be having plenty of fun without you

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