FabSwingers.com forum: Veris: When people leave

By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

Why o why, when people leave the site, do their verification comments disappear? It's REALLY irritating! Why!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The veri summary stays the same tho. Nothing comes of that

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By *ympho7Couple
over a year ago

swansea

we just lost 2 veri's this way

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

It would be better if the veri text stayed but it just said user as left the site in the name part?

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

"It would be better if the veri text stayed but it just said user as left the site in the name part?"
Agreed!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've lost a couple that way too, it now looks like we are hiding them

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By *heRainManMan
over a year ago

Warrington & Glasgow

If members are being "accused" of hiding veris, maybe Admin would consider modifying the Veri Summary to show the number of veris from UNLOS?

Why someone would "accuse" a member of hiding veris, and why that wouldn't get them an instant block, is a different matter!

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

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I just think it's a huge flaw in the site. Veris are ultimately the best way of finding out more about what a people are truly like and into, and for them to keep disappearing is crazy. Any chance of an admin response?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It would be better if the veri text stayed but it just said user as left the site in the name part? Agreed!!"

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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago

West Kent (near Tonbridge)

"I just think it's a huge flaw in the site. Veris are ultimately the best way of finding out more about what a people are truly like and into, and for them to keep disappearing is crazy. Any chance of an admin response? "

Totally agree. Like others above, I've lost some verifications due to people leaving the site. I don't have many to lose anyway!

I know the summary remains unchanged but the text of the verifications themselves is important. I also wish they would remain but just show as being from 'User no longer on site'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Administration only respond if you mention a other site or try to sell something it's pathetic I got barred for 2 hours for mentioning a blue pill brand name

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree with OP. On previous profile (a four year period) I must have "lost" over 40 from people who left the site....

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

It makes absolutely no sense: if the veri summary remains then why not the veris themselves!?

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"...Veris are ultimately the best way of finding out more about what a people are truly like and into...,,"

No they aren't :

All they do is say that you exist, that you are who you (say) you are.

All the rest is additional bullshit.

They aren't worth anything else ; the write ups are just subjective opinion

It would be better if the veri was just a yes/ no form :

1. Is the person the sex described yes/no

2. Do they match the description in thier profile ? Yes/no

3. If the verification was for a meet, did they turn up as planned? Yes/no

4. Do you endorse them as genuine? Yes/ no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The people wrote those words so with them not being here neither should their words, if people accuse you of hiding veris then do you really want to meet them? Block and move on

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover

"...Veris are ultimately the best way of finding out more about what a people are truly like and into...,,

No they aren't :

All they do is say that you exist, that you are who you (say) you are.

All the rest is additional bullshit.

They aren't worth anything else ; the write ups are just subjective opinion

It would be better if the veri was just a yes/ no form :

1. Is the person the sex described yes/no

2. Do they match the description in thier profile ? Yes/no

3. If the verification was for a meet, did they turn up as planned? Yes/no

4. Do you endorse them as genuine? Yes/ no."

The 4th question is redundant if the others are answered.

It would make for far less lurid and spicy descriptions and accounts

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

The 4th question is redundant if the others are answered.

It would make for far less lurid and spicy descriptions and accounts"

Ah yes; you are right about 4 th question.

I never look at veris anyway, or even look for them if thinking about meeting.

I must admit I do occasionally look at some, just because they are just so

Ludicrously lurid that they are funny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The people wrote those words so with them not being here neither should their words, if people accuse you of hiding veris then do you really want to meet them? Block and move on "

They also wrote the words in their forum posts, yet they remain when a user leaves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The people wrote those words so with them not being here neither should their words, if people accuse you of hiding veris then do you really want to meet them? Block and move on

They also wrote the words in their forum posts, yet they remain when a user leaves."

Yeah but its not on someones personal profile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They send messages to a personal profile and they remain too. Don't see why s veri is different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They send messages to a personal profile and they remain too. Don't see why s veri is different. "

this......

Everything else they have written stays on the site. Just profile and verifications go. Posts and messages all stay. I too think verifications should stay too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I lost about half the veris on my old profile from people leaving. If someone was accusing me of "hiding" them they would have been told where to get off anyway.

I don't display mine, but it was still a shame to lose the text of some of them which were lovely.

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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago

West Kent (near Tonbridge)

"They send messages to a personal profile and they remain too. Don't see why s veri is different. "

Exactly. I hope the admins will comment on this soon (if they haven't already).

Stunning pics by the way!

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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago

West Kent (near Tonbridge)

"They send messages to a personal profile and they remain too. Don't see why s veri is different.

this......

Everything else they have written stays on the site. Just profile and verifications go. Posts and messages all stay. I too think verifications should stay too! "

Couldn't agree more.

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

*cough* Admin response desired *cough*

Some great responses. Thanks all

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By *j_markCouple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

This is brought up regularly, since 2008. We appreciate it's frustrating to "lose" a verification (although we introduced the verification summary so the data could still be shown).

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also someone could make up 6 fake profiles, give themselves great veris then delete the fakes. Anyone looking at the profile wouldn't think twice about UNLOS's

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

"This is brought up regularly, since 2008. We appreciate it's frustrating to "lose" a verification (although we introduced the verification summary so the data could still be shown).

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x "

Thanks for responding. This is interesting. 1) How could retaining the veris be a bad thing? If they've been permitted to be placed there, and are after all such an integral element of the site, why not retain them? I see your point about keeping things current, but they're dated, so people can see exactly how old they are. 2) If people have made posts, they know they'll be read. What's the difference between this and the fact that they have verified someone (the veri summary) remaining? Their profile will disappear when they leave, and as a previous poster suggested, the veri could just display "user no longer on site". I see the argument for removing them as fundamentally flawed and believe the site would be a better place for longstanding members for retaining the verifications

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

In response to the other previous post, and a point made above also, if an individual's veris were all purely "user no longer on site" then users will swiftly recognise how currently active a person is / isn't, as with the current system

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage

"It would be better if the veri text stayed but it just said user as left the site in the name part?"

I agree, there forum post stays so cant see why verification text cant stay

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage

Another suggestion could be that profile names not displayed, only date of verification and then text written in verification.

This would also stop people messaging people who have verified others.

Example

May 2014 (instead of profile name)

Met this person tonight for fun and games etc

With that suggestion then it makes no difference if person still on the site or not as makes verification anon.

With regards to fake veries they will always happen regardless what system is put in place

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage

"Also someone could make up 6 fake profiles, give themselves great veris then delete the fakes. Anyone looking at the profile wouldn't think twice about UNLOS's"

Fake veries will always happen regardless of the system in place

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

Agreed 100%. Admin response?

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"It would be better if the veri text stayed but it just said user as left the site in the name part?

I agree, there forum post stays so cant see why verification text cant stay"

Forum ousts are different, because they are part of a conversation; if you removed an UNLOS forum post, then when you read through the thread, it would make no sense at all , because great chunks of the discussion would not follow each other ( and what about quotes?)

Since veris are simply ( supposed to be) only to show that the receiver of the veri actually exists, then why on earth do you need to have the text at all?

If I was running this, I should remove the text part of the veri altogether ; you would simply tick that you verified someone, by a meet or a cam , or whatever, so the only thing you would ever have would be the verification summary. The write ups are, just utterly pointless.

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By *j_markCouple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

"Agreed 100%. Admin response?"

This is all a matter of judgement, we've posted ours above. We continue to listen and we'll post if we make changes

Admin x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi I'm verified myself and had a meet the start of January and when I verified her it says saved yet she is telling me it's not showing up on her profile any1 no why ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi I'm verified myself and had a meet the start of January and when I verified her it says saved yet she is telling me it's not showing up on her profile any1 no why ?"

Did you verify her using the same internet connection?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes we were in the travel lodge on there wifi

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x "

Thanks admin. In your first response you stated the above. So what does it take for a change to be made? Some form of poll? Is there a way? Thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just my view, but I think the meet count should also be adjusted, as a lot come back, you meet again, and although the same person, it adds to your total, makes it look like you have more different people then you have

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By *ally2012Woman
over a year ago

nr Exeter

I agree that the meet count should be adjusted.

Another idea that I have used is copy and paste a veri that I saved and put it on my profile...a good way to save them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is prefer people not to leave me feedback an those that do I don't display anyway.

Like to appear pure and untouched on here and don't really like the idea of everything I've done being discussed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is brought up regularly, since 2008. We appreciate it's frustrating to "lose" a verification (although we introduced the verification summary so the data could still be shown).

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x "

Really great to see an admin response. It's good to see the reasoning behind a decision. (Appreciating that some things should be confidential of course)

Just one thought on the reasoning behind the no position, if it's been discussed for the last 8 years, it kind of suggests it's something the membership would like if it keeps coming up?

Tuppenceworth spent.

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By *j_markCouple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

Just one thought on the reasoning behind the no position, if it's been discussed for the last 8 years, it kind of suggests it's something the membership would like if it keeps coming up?

Tuppenceworth spent."

Worth bearing in mind... we don't hear from all the people happy with the way it works or those leaving the site who would not want verifications to remain.

We only ever hear a small proportion of feedback via the forums (on any matter). In this instance it's self selecting on those who have a) "lost" verifications and b) believe it to be a problem (for them).

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"This is brought up regularly, since 2008. We appreciate it's frustrating to "lose" a verification (although we introduced the verification summary so the data could still be shown).

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x

Really great to see an admin response. It's good to see the reasoning behind a decision. (Appreciating that some things should be confidential of course)

Just one thought on the reasoning behind the no position, if it's been discussed for the last 8 years, it kind of suggests it's something the membership would like if it keeps coming up?

Tuppenceworth spent."

It's only because some people are obsessed with the text in their veris....

Which has no bearing whatsoever on the actual purpose of the veri.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We really couldn't care we only show a fraction of ours anyway

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By *luffy_bunniesCouple
over a year ago

Ilkeston

What admin say makes perfect sense to us. Veris have caused people issues over years, I believe, and I see it as a form of confidentiality for when things sometimes get messy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just one thought on the reasoning behind the no position, if it's been discussed for the last 8 years, it kind of suggests it's something the membership would like if it keeps coming up?

Tuppenceworth spent.

Worth bearing in mind... we don't hear from all the people happy with the way it works or those leaving the site who would not want verifications to remain.

Admin x"

Personally if Veri's go (which we agree with), then all entries from an account must go including forums posts, club reviews and private messages, since they are the individuals own content.

Cant see why it's one rule for one (veri's) and a confused ruling for the rest.

Since you stated your T&C's earlier in the thread regarding this issue of keeping content/changing your T&C's.

You may want to review your T&C's since they do not give clear guidance on content ownership and editing/removal anyway.

Your T&C's say you have the right to do as you wish with the content displayed on the site (for site purposes).

5.10 You will understand that we have to reserve the right to vet or monitor any Content and to reject, suspend or remove from our site

However the terms also say content can be removed on account cancellation.

7.1 You may at any time cancel your Membership and remove all of your Content publicly displayed on our site by following the instructions on our site.

But you don't give full powers of deletion of that content when you delete the profile, only the profile content.

It's rather ambiguous at best.

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By *irty130Couple
over a year ago

Bristol Area

I think the problem for us was "oh, our meet count doesn't match our total verifications", and then spending a while to try to figure out who we lost.

Maybe even showing the veri to the profile holder (in manage verifications) with a note "this can't be displayed on your profile" would clear things up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The veri summary stays the same tho. Nothing comes of that"
no it changes I had 7 veris at one point

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

I lost a really funny one that way. And one that said I had alluring eyes. It would have been nice to keep those with a user no longer on site label attached. They may have left but the humour is still there. As are my eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just one thought on the reasoning behind the no position, if it's been discussed for the last 8 years, it kind of suggests it's something the membership would like if it keeps coming up?

Tuppenceworth spent.

Worth bearing in mind... we don't hear from all the people happy with the way it works or those leaving the site who would not want verifications to remain.

Admin x"

You're about to be flooded with "I'm really happy with....." messages now.

As demonstrated by this thread alone, you'll never please everyone.

Thanks for the feedback, it's appreciated.

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

"just my view, but I think the meet count should also be adjusted, as a lot come back, you meet again, and although the same person, it adds to your total, makes it look like you have more different people then you have "
Agreed!

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

"Is prefer people not to leave me feedback an those that do I don't display anyway.

Like to appear pure and untouched on here and don't really like the idea of everything I've done being discussed.

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That's your choice, which you could retain under an altered system. Nothing would change for you

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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago

West Kent (near Tonbridge)

Not so good for people who have very few meets and lose all/most of them due to people leaving the site. It's not just losing all meets, you might lose the most recent one or two and then it could look like you haven't had one in several years. Some people judge on that criteria.

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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago

West Kent (near Tonbridge)

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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago

West Kent (near Tonbridge)

"The veri summary stays the same tho. Nothing comes of that no it changes I had 7 veris at one point

?? I've lost about three verifications due to people leaving the site (a big proportion of the total for me!), but my verification summary has definitely remained the same.

There have been previous posts/comments confirming this should be the site behaviour. If your summary has changed, I'd suggest something has gone wrong in your case and you should take it up with site support.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is brought up regularly, since 2008. We appreciate it's frustrating to "lose" a verification (although we introduced the verification summary so the data could still be shown).

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x

Really great to see an admin response. It's good to see the reasoning behind a decision. (Appreciating that some things should be confidential of course)

Just one thought on the reasoning behind the no position, if it's been discussed for the last 8 years, it kind of suggests it's something the membership would like if it keeps coming up?

Tuppenceworth spent.

It's only because some people are obsessed with the text in their veris....

Which has no bearing whatsoever on the actual purpose of the veri."

Some people actually put a lot of effort into veris...its a way of showing appreciation/affection for the recipient that may not be appropriate to bring up at the time...they can also provide a nice little reminder for the recipient about the meet.

Just as a thought, how about the possibility of offering the member going UNLOS the opportunity to choose to remove any verifications they have written as part of the account deletion process? If they are happy to leave them up then they can be marked as UNLOS, if not then they can be removed.

**cough***admin***cough**

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is brought up regularly, since 2008. We appreciate it's frustrating to "lose" a verification (although we introduced the verification summary so the data could still be shown).

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x

Really great to see an admin response. It's good to see the reasoning behind a decision. (Appreciating that some things should be confidential of course)

Just one thought on the reasoning behind the no position, if it's been discussed for the last 8 years, it kind of suggests it's something the membership would like if it keeps coming up?

Tuppenceworth spent.

It's only because some people are obsessed with the text in their veris....

Which has no bearing whatsoever on the actual purpose of the veri."

Yeah, that.

If someone has spent hours lovingly handcrafting their review of me, I'd rather they told me in person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is brought up regularly, since 2008. We appreciate it's frustrating to "lose" a verification (although we introduced the verification summary so the data could still be shown).

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x

Really great to see an admin response. It's good to see the reasoning behind a decision. (Appreciating that some things should be confidential of course)

Just one thought on the reasoning behind the no position, if it's been discussed for the last 8 years, it kind of suggests it's something the membership would like if it keeps coming up?

Tuppenceworth spent.

It's only because some people are obsessed with the text in their veris....

Which has no bearing whatsoever on the actual purpose of the veri.

**cough***admin***cough**"

Really? I thought that verifications were to verify that the person/ people in question are genuinely who they represent themselves to be. That they meet when they say they will. The clue being in the name...verify genuine

Performance reviews belong on trip advisor, nice little reminders or shows of affection actually would make me doubt the verification was objective enough to be called such

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is brought up regularly, since 2008. We appreciate it's frustrating to "lose" a verification (although we introduced the verification summary so the data could still be shown).

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x

Really great to see an admin response. It's good to see the reasoning behind a decision. (Appreciating that some things should be confidential of course)

Just one thought on the reasoning behind the no position, if it's been discussed for the last 8 years, it kind of suggests it's something the membership would like if it keeps coming up?

Tuppenceworth spent.

It's only because some people are obsessed with the text in their veris....

Which has no bearing whatsoever on the actual purpose of the veri.

**cough***admin***cough**

Performance reviews belong on trip advisor, nice little reminders or shows of affection actually would make me doubt the verification was objective enough to be called such"

By default any verification is completely subjective..as already stated you could distill the veri system to a checkbox(which would makd it more objective). But where is the fun in that?

A big part of the veri system is that it allows others to get a feel for both writer and recipient..this can then be weighed up alongside the profile and possibly forum posts to allow someone to make a more informed choice as to a meet. It can also be useful in working out if someone has plagiarised a profile, as it can be easy to detect differences in writing styles etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is brought up regularly, since 2008. We appreciate it's frustrating to "lose" a verification (although we introduced the verification summary so the data could still be shown).

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x

Really great to see an admin response. It's good to see the reasoning behind a decision. (Appreciating that some things should be confidential of course)

Just one thought on the reasoning behind the no position, if it's been discussed for the last 8 years, it kind of suggests it's something the membership would like if it keeps coming up?

Tuppenceworth spent.

It's only because some people are obsessed with the text in their veris....

Which has no bearing whatsoever on the actual purpose of the veri.

Yeah, that.

If someone has spent hours lovingly handcrafting their review of me, I'd rather they told me in person. "

That depends if they could speak coherently by the time you have finished

I know I have been left less than intelligible before

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is brought up regularly, since 2008. We appreciate it's frustrating to "lose" a verification (although we introduced the verification summary so the data could still be shown).

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x

Really great to see an admin response. It's good to see the reasoning behind a decision. (Appreciating that some things should be confidential of course)

Just one thought on the reasoning behind the no position, if it's been discussed for the last 8 years, it kind of suggests it's something the membership would like if it keeps coming up?

Tuppenceworth spent.

It's only because some people are obsessed with the text in their veris....

Which has no bearing whatsoever on the actual purpose of the veri.

**cough***admin***cough**

Performance reviews belong on trip advisor, nice little reminders or shows of affection actually would make me doubt the verification was objective enough to be called such

By default any verification is completely subjective..as already stated you could distill the veri system to a checkbox(which would makd it more objective). But where is the fun in that?

To be honest, I think the tick box option would be far better. Some people can't tell the difference between verification and validation...

I take your point on the other use though, it's useful to an extent

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

Nail on head

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

Could a poll of the membership be undertaken Admin?

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

"Could a poll of the membership be undertaken Admin?"
Could it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about this..

when a user leaves, the veri changes to..

By (user no longer on site), Woman on 8 February 2016 by Meeting in person:

**user no longer on site - content removed**

This will show who they met in terms of profile type, and show they had actually been verified, and it's real and not hidden cos they are hiding something, as others have suggested.

User decided if they choose to show it or not like we do already.

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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago

West Kent (near Tonbridge)

"How about this..

when a user leaves, the veri changes to..

By (user no longer on site), Woman on 8 February 2016 by Meeting in person:

**user no longer on site - content removed**

This will show who they met in terms of profile type, and show they had actually been verified, and it's real and not hidden cos they are hiding something, as others have suggested.

User decided if they choose to show it or not like we do already.

Yes, I agree. Although you do get that information in the verification summary (if you choose to show it on your profile), by having it there only, it can easily be interpreted as hiding something.

No idea if this is a helpful or smart thing to do, but I'm on the verge of adding a line to my profile to explain that most (of the very few verifications I have) are from users no longer on the site, hence the reason they are not displayed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't see why the verification cannot be left, even if the verifier has left the site...can't be that difficult to do, as I know at least one other site that does that.

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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago

West Kent (near Tonbridge)

"Can't see why the verification cannot be left, even if the verifier has left the site...can't be that difficult to do, as I know at least one other site that does that. "

I don't think it's so much about whether it's difficult to do, more whether the site admins agree it's a good idea.

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage

"It would be better if the veri text stayed but it just said user as left the site in the name part?

I agree, there forum post stays so cant see why verification text cant stay

Since veris are simply ( supposed to be) only to show that the receiver of the veri actually exists, then why on earth do you need to have the text at all?

I disagree

When you block someone in chat, chat in a chatroom doesnt become disjointed so no reason forums would either

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

"It makes absolutely no sense: if the veri summary remains then why not the veris themselves!?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It makes absolutely no sense: if the veri summary remains then why not the veris themselves!?"

Because they have left the site

If their profile goes they go and they take everything with them

How can you be verified by somebody who's not even a member

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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago

Filthy Fuckeryville

"It makes absolutely no sense: if the veri summary remains then why not the veris themselves!?

Because they have left the site

If their profile goes they go and they take everything with them

How can you be verified by somebody who's not even a member

Apart from their forum posts..... They oddly stay?!

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By *angbang junkieCouple
over a year ago

Ilkeston

I think it makes perfect sense. I forum post went too, only half the forum content would still be here. As it stands the content stays, but no name.

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

"How about this..

when a user leaves, the veri changes to..

By (user no longer on site), Woman on 8 February 2016 by Meeting in person:

**user no longer on site - content removed**

This will show who they met in terms of profile type, and show they had actually been verified, and it's real and not hidden cos they are hiding something, as others have suggested.

User decided if they choose to show it or not like we do already.

PERFECT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I totally agree!

They are to verify that they are who they say they are. I don't want to know how good he is with his tongue, fingers or cock and how many times you gushed, squirted or orgasmed!

I'll find that out for myself thank you how good he is!!

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

There is clearly appetite for change in the membership. What does it take to get change admin?

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

"The people wrote those words so with them not being here neither should their words, if people accuse you of hiding veris then do you really want to meet them? Block and move on "

I've heard that reasoning before but for me it doesn't really stack up due to forum posts staying on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The people wrote those words so with them not being here neither should their words, if people accuse you of hiding veris then do you really want to meet them? Block and move on

I've heard that reasoning before but for me it doesn't really stack up due to forum posts staying on"

And technically a veri could be classed as being 'gifted' to the recipient as it is posted onto their profile, not the writers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The people wrote those words so with them not being here neither should their words, if people accuse you of hiding veris then do you really want to meet them? Block and move on

I've heard that reasoning before but for me it doesn't really stack up due to forum posts staying on

And technically a veri could be classed as being 'gifted' to the recipient as it is posted onto their profile, not the writers."

And the writer never has access to it again once it's sent. Sometimes I'd like to be able to see what I wrote about someone if they don't display it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is clearly appetite for change in the membership. What does it take to get change admin?"

Not entirely sure where you draw that conclusion from. The forum is a miniscule part of the whole site and you have a small handful of people agreeing on one thread...

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By *rx1Couple
over a year ago

Devon

We look at this way.

Some decide to show veri's so others can see the type of people they have met before they decide to meet them too.(for an example a couple that messaged us recently had 10 or more verifications every single one was a social meet only over a 2 year period ?)

Others decide not to show Veri's as they see it as being of no consequence and don't want others to know anything. fair enough

Others wont show Veri's because they haven't actually met anyone, but were verified by Webcam or Phone and still profess to be genuine swingers.

We have even been judged because someone suggested we had to many and therefore must be immoral...lol.

As someone else mentioned, does it really matter

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

The veris are left genuinely, and indicate the kind of person / meet the recipient is. They're a useful indicator. What is the harm in retaining them on profiles after other users have left? What does it take to secure change / a poll / a trial? Admin?

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over a year ago

"The veris are left genuinely, and indicate the kind of person / meet the recipient is. They're a useful indicator. What is the harm in retaining them on profiles after other users have left? What does it take to secure change / a poll / a trial? Admin?"

You understand of course that repeating the question isn't going to change the answers above.

Do you not understand them, or just think that your preference means that other people's privacy, preference and choice doesn't matter?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It shouldnt stay you could be the reason they are leaving. Xx

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains

They've already answered you twice above, I would just let it drop!

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By *JJJJx OP Man
over a year ago

RCT

I fully understand the responses, and both sides of the discussion. My last question was, specifically, whether an opinion poll could be conducted, and if change would be possible. Those questions have not been answered

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By *lighty1Woman
over a year ago

You Dont Need to Know, right now

There are lots of suggestions posted in the feedback forum, and as far as I know, Admin have never conducted a poll on whether members want them or not.

If they did an opinion poll for you, then everyone would be demanding an opinion poll for their own suggestions (check out the "Cuckold Room" thread, for example).

You really must just TRUST Admin to implement those suggestions which they consider both worthwhile and cost-effective.

And my two-pen'orth is ... I don't give a flying fig if verifications are deleted when a member leaves the site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I think veris are overrated and some put way to much importance on them. I don't care they go when someone leaves. No one I meet can verify me because of my age filters which I'm not changing. I have one to get me started and show I am who I say I am and don't really need anymore.

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over a year ago

"This is brought up regularly, since 2008. We appreciate it's frustrating to "lose" a verification (although we introduced the verification summary so the data could still be shown).

We'd need two things to be true to change this:

1) We'd need to believe as a whole, retaining text from deleted users was good thing. We taken a view that only showing verifications from users who are on the site, is preferable.

2) We'd have to be convinced that users who are leaving would want their verifications to remain, and we'd need to change our terms of service to specifically reflect that.

We're not yet convinced on either point.

Admin x "

if i left here i don't think i would want my verifications still on the site.

if people were getting sentimental over my veris then they should've become more than a verification on this site to me and therefore not need to get sentimemtal over any veri i'd left.

we can call this the verification paradox.

but i;d think it's sad if someone wanted my fuck review on here after i'd left.

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

When I leave i do exactly that leave so I would expect anything about me to salons leave.....

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

Also veris are only to say you exists there's way to much emphasis on them.....they are not medals .

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