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"Depends on why you thought it wasn't good? Was it the club itself? The fixtures, fittings and facilities, the staff, the management or location? Was it the clientele and their demographics or behaviour? Was it simply because it was not your cup of tea or you felt you had a bad night due to not meeting anyone you were attracted to? The details matter. Putting 'avoid' because you personally has a bad night at no fault of the club is wrong. Putting 'ok' because the place was filthy and falling apart with no running water and no seats that weren't covered in bodily fluids, the customers were rude/abusive/pushy/offensive and the club didn't act on complaints, and you were charged £20 a beer and £300 entry? Like I said. It comes down to the details. Just be honest and you can't go wrong. A" See what your saying here obi. We have been to the club before and really liked it. We liked the potential of the on going work and could see the vision that the owner was aspiring to achieve, the clubbers were friendly and it was a nice place to be. Now, 4 months on, we still see the potential but things have changed for the worse in that there were just far too many single (60 + year old) men. It was like a scene from the close of benny hill. And worse of all, (in our opinion) the dress code has gone completely out of the window, despite all the dress code notices, it was as if they needed a large amount of money quickly to get the next stage of the club done, so, pack anyone in who wants to pay. As we said. We like the club and think when finished, it will be amazing. So the difference between OK and avoid is too big a difference to give a really honest opinion | |||
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"Depends on why you thought it wasn't good? Was it the club itself? The fixtures, fittings and facilities, the staff, the management or location? Was it the clientele and their demographics or behaviour? Was it simply because it was not your cup of tea or you felt you had a bad night due to not meeting anyone you were attracted to? The details matter. Putting 'avoid' because you personally has a bad night at no fault of the club is wrong. Putting 'ok' because the place was filthy and falling apart with no running water and no seats that weren't covered in bodily fluids, the customers were rude/abusive/pushy/offensive and the club didn't act on complaints, and you were charged £20 a beer and £300 entry? Like I said. It comes down to the details. Just be honest and you can't go wrong. A See what your saying here obi. We have been to the club before and really liked it. We liked the potential of the on going work and could see the vision that the owner was aspiring to achieve, the clubbers were friendly and it was a nice place to be. Now, 4 months on, we still see the potential but things have changed for the worse in that there were just far too many single (60 + year old) men. It was like a scene from the close of benny hill. And worse of all, (in our opinion) the dress code has gone completely out of the window, despite all the dress code notices, it was as if they needed a large amount of money quickly to get the next stage of the club done, so, pack anyone in who wants to pay. As we said. We like the club and think when finished, it will be amazing. So the difference between OK and avoid is too big a difference to give a really honest opinion" You've just given one. If you put 'ok' and exactly what you've just said I think that's a pretty fair and honest review! A | |||
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"Depends on why you thought it wasn't good? Was it the club itself? The fixtures, fittings and facilities, the staff, the management or location? Was it the clientele and their demographics or behaviour? Was it simply because it was not your cup of tea or you felt you had a bad night due to not meeting anyone you were attracted to? The details matter. Putting 'avoid' because you personally has a bad night at no fault of the club is wrong. Putting 'ok' because the place was filthy and falling apart with no running water and no seats that weren't covered in bodily fluids, the customers were rude/abusive/pushy/offensive and the club didn't act on complaints, and you were charged £20 a beer and £300 entry? Like I said. It comes down to the details. Just be honest and you can't go wrong. A See what your saying here obi. We have been to the club before and really liked it. We liked the potential of the on going work and could see the vision that the owner was aspiring to achieve, the clubbers were friendly and it was a nice place to be. Now, 4 months on, we still see the potential but things have changed for the worse in that there were just far too many single (60 + year old) men. It was like a scene from the close of benny hill. And worse of all, (in our opinion) the dress code has gone completely out of the window, despite all the dress code notices, it was as if they needed a large amount of money quickly to get the next stage of the club done, so, pack anyone in who wants to pay. As we said. We like the club and think when finished, it will be amazing. So the difference between OK and avoid is too big a difference to give a really honest opinion You've just given one. If you put 'ok' and exactly what you've just said I think that's a pretty fair and honest review! A" Thanks. Appreciate your input  | |||
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"Got to be honest we also think the option to be publicly anonymous would be useful too. When we have left negative reviews, people often get loads of abusive messages from the locals. " Trouble with that is that 'the locals' would then fill the reviews with fake reviews. There's no perfect system. But if people left honest reviews worded in a non abusive manner then management could reply. At present alongside the many generic positive reviews are the obvious ones from members of rival clubs that just end in slanging matches. The truth often hurts. But clubs can't do anything about issues if they don't know about them. If I see negative reviews I always wonder if anything was said to staff/management on the night? I doubt anything often is. A | |||
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"Got to be honest we also think the option to be publicly anonymous would be useful too. When we have left negative reviews, people often get loads of abusive messages from the locals. Trouble with that is that 'the locals' would then fill the reviews with fake reviews. There's no perfect system. But if people left honest reviews worded in a non abusive manner then management could reply. At present alongside the many generic positive reviews are the obvious ones from members of rival clubs that just end in slanging matches. The truth often hurts. But clubs can't do anything about issues if they don't know about them. If I see negative reviews I always wonder if anything was said to staff/management on the night? I doubt anything often is. A"
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"But that's assuming someones negative review is addressing specific points. If someone thinks that a club is just horrible in general, and wants to leave a review saying such, in a polite and constructive way, then they have a right to do so without be hounded by people who disagree." True. But by definition a negative experience will have a cause. If that is down to the club then feedback should be possible giving reasons. If it's down to the individual's personal tastes and expectancies? Chats hardly the fault of the club, surely? A | |||
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"Buy a cause could just be not liking it, no specific cause is necessary, or a person may not want to or feel comfortable giving reasons. People have a right to say what they think, without reprisals." Of course everyone has that right. However a review will generally be ignored if there's insufficient info to explain a negative opinion. It's like saying "I don't like London" without giving a rationale, as opposed to "its too heavily populated", "too expensive" or "I like to drive my car rather than crawl in traffic". Details help both positive and negative reviews equally. A | |||
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