FabSwingers.com forum: Proposal for removing verifications

By *j_mark OP Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

We know that sometimes there are a legitimate reason for wanting to remove verifications you have left.

For example, you meet someone, you verify them, then they turn out to be not the person you thought they were. It must be uncomfortable for your verification to then be used by that person to continue to help get meets, when you want it removed.

Our proposal is as follows:

If you have blocked someone, your verifications will no longer show on their profile page (and any verifications they have left you will not show on yours either).

If you unblock them, the verifications will show again.

We think this is the simplest way of dealing with this request.

Any comments in this thread or via the CONTACT link please

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By *ilandlarryCouple
over a year ago

more north lincs than mids!

sounds like a fair compromise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If member_001 only has one verification on his profile from member_002, then Member_002 decides to block him, the verification would vanish and that member would then appear to be an unverified member ... or would there be some kind of a message on Member_001's profile to indicate that he is still verified but that the verification is no longer able to be diaplayed ?

I can see it causing friction

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By *ortheastcoupleukCouple
over a year ago

easington were the sun dont shine

think there should be sumit like theres a post on today of a guy saying he wernt getting any meets(he been a member 2 weeks) anyway some one picked up on his profile he had been vertifyed and a comment on his oral skills ,any way he come back with the lass only done it to help him ?? the lass had good feed back to so if she saw that she would have the option to remove .

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By *j_mark OP Couple
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over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

"If member_001 only has one verification on his profile from member_002, then Member_002 decides to block him, the verification would vanish and that member would then appear to be an unverified member ... or would there be some kind of a message on Member_001's profile to indicate that he is still verified but that the verification is no longer able to be diaplayed ?

I can see it causing friction

Would just be the same as if they hadn't published any verifications, they'd still show the tick but no details.

There's bound to be friction but we think this is the best way to deal with the situation that arises where someone wants to withdraw their verification.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they only have one verification will the green tick go too? as the system is right now the green tick still stays on a profile if the verification is removed for whatever reason, this seems to be a major flaw, as the people involved can then claim they hide their verifications when in effect they have none there to hide.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds fair to us as in most cases people just want their feedback removed so that they have no link to that person/persons. Plus if the green tick was allowed to be removed that easily it would be open to abuse

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By *j_mark OP Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

"If they only have one verification will the green tick go too? as the system is right now the green tick still stays on a profile if the verification is removed for whatever reason, this seems to be a major flaw, as the people involved can then claim they hide their verifications when in effect they have none there to hide."

The intention here isn't to remove someone's tick or punish them, just for someone who has written a verification that they display on their profile to withdraw it.

So the tick would stay.

Our view is: People can make their own minds up what a profile with a tick but without published verifications means (and it can mean many things).

Admin x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So what happens to the verification if you unblock them, does it return? Only reason I ask is that it hasn’t been the first time we’ve blocked someone by mistake and I’m sure we’re not alone.

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By *j_mark OP Couple
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over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

"So what happens to the verification if you unblock them, does it return? Only reason I ask is that it hasn’t been the first time we’ve blocked someone by mistake and I’m sure we’re not alone."

This is how it works:

Block them: The verification is hidden (and ditto for any verifications they left you).

Unblock them: The verifications show again.

Admin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can see it causing friction

Would just be the same as if they hadn't published any verifications, they'd still show the tick but no details.

There's bound to be friction but we think this is the best way to deal with the situation that arises where someone wants to withdraw their verification.

Oh right, now I understand the jist of it, although with the exception of an extreme circumstance I think that once a verification has been left, it should remain.

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

Bucks

sounds a fair solutions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think thats a good idea _j_mark because that way it cannot be open to abuse lol well done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I personally am not sure I like the idea. I actually have a current situation where I am no longer speaking with someone who I have met (long story!). We have both blocked eachother... but personally I don't have a problem with my verification being on her page, it was valid at the time...and still is! In the same way I wouldn't like to loose that verifiction, and I don't think it would be fair that I did, as it also is equally valid.

If you were to put this in place, would I automatically loose it?

I'm not sure I see any reason why any verification should be removed (unless it was completely by error, but I mean to get that far by accident seems ludicrous!), if it was written, then it was meant by that person.

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By *j_mark OP Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

"In the same way I wouldn't like to loose that verifiction, and I don't think it would be fair that I did, as it also is equally valid.

If you were to put this in place, would I automatically loose it?"

Yes. But you could get it back by unblocking the person.

Admin x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the same way I wouldn't like to loose that verifiction, and I don't think it would be fair that I did, as it also is equally valid.

If you were to put this in place, would I automatically loose it?

Yes. But you could get it back by unblocking the person.

Admin x"

No because I know she has blocked me also.

I also was going to add after but hadn't got that far... that you mention of people feeling 'uncomfortable' about the verification still being there. I really see that as a guise for the word bitter. I can't see how someone can be not who you thought they were, other than people having an argument and then purely feeling resentment, which is their own issue.

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By *j_mark OP Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

Then our guess would be she wouldn't want her verification on your profile so the system would be working for her?

Admin x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

...and I might just add further if you dont mind, lol.

Why can there not just be an option to specifically remove the verification? It is subject to no more and no less abuse than having it through the blocking system, just without the added issues similar to the ones I am referring to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Then our guess would be she wouldn't want her verification on your profile so the system would be working for her?

Admin x"

I don't think you are understanding... I can't comment on whether she has a desire for hers to be removed or not, but we have both blocked eachother. So I have blocked her too, but I don't have a desire for mine to dissappear from hers, so that's not working for me is it?

...and why should that verification not be valid just because we don't get along anymore. We met, we had fun... the verification is true, what happened after is not of consequence.

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By *j_mark OP Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

"Then our guess would be she wouldn't want her verification on your profile so the system would be working for her?

Admin x

...and why should that verification not be valid just because we don't get along anymore. We met, we had fun... the verification is true, what happened after is not of consequence."

We take this on board.

Admin x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We take this on board.

Admin x"

Thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't think anyone should be able to take verifications away, your making things far to easy for people with grudges, ideally people should think long and hard before verifying other people, and if they think that for whatever reason they may want it removed in the future then don’t leave it to start with.

Can see a lot of people being blocked because they decline to meet someone a second time, or because they’ve met someone the person doesn’t like.

Can of worms this one.

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By *j_mark OP Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

"Don't think anyone should be able to take verifications away, your making things far to easy for people with grudges, ideally people should think long and hard before verifying other people, and if they think that for whatever reason they may want it removed in the future then don’t leave it to start with.

Can see a lot of people being blocked because they decline to meet someone a second time, or because they’ve met someone the person doesn’t like.

Can of worms this one.

Good points.

Admin x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What if the block by one person is due to petty-mindless, e.g. two people falling out for whatever issue?

Personally, I do not believe verification should be removed once it is given out.

If I do not like the person/couple/meet, then I would not leave a verification.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel that a verification should be regarded as a snapshot, of the experience that people had during a meet, be it good or bad.

Regardless of any subsequent bad feeling, the verification would have been valid at the time it was written and shouldn't be removed except in an extreme situation, eg the verified member turned out to be an axe murderer or a peadophile or something equally as bad.

The fact that 2 people no longer see eye to eye should not be a reason to remove a verification

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The fact that 2 people no longer see eye to eye should not be a reason to remove a verification"

Under SJ's proposal, if one person decides to block the other due to the two of them not seeing eye to eye anymore would result in the verification not being shown, for as long as the block is in place.

To me, this is not dissimilar to removing verification itself.

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By *aughtyNurse999Woman
over a year ago

Fabville !!!

lol had to read it 3 times for it to sink it but i have the jist now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seems good and fair to me SJ xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

mind u i did say well done cos its not open to abuse, but forgot to say i think ppl only want to remove a veri they left cos they get a bit bitter, cos if it a serious reason you get involved anyway dont you, but this idea is the best yet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quoted SJ ...

"Would just be the same as if they hadn't published any verifications, they'd still show the tick but no details."

No, it wouldn't be the same. Fair enough the tick would still be in place but that is where the similarity ends.

Fine if someone CHOOSES not to show their verifications, however this proposed system potentially removes the CHOICE to do so

All it takes is for someone to become a forum pain in the arse, a bit like myself, get a few people's backs up and hey, lets have a mass verification removal for this user, just because we don't like the way he posts in the forums

OK, it's an extreme example, but I'm sure there are many more ...

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By *j_mark OP Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

"Quoted SJ ...

"Would just be the same as if they hadn't published any verifications, they'd still show the tick but no details."

No, it wouldn't be the same. Fair enough the tick would still be in place but that is where the similarity ends.

Fine if someone CHOOSES not to show their verifications, however this proposed system potentially removes the CHOICE to do so

OK, it's an extreme example, but I'm sure there are many more ..."

Talking of choices though at present there is *no way* for the verification giver to withdraw that.

Surely the person giving the verification has more right to withdraw it than the person receiving it has to keep it?

Just some food for thought

One further point:

We think the "malicious removement of verifications" is unlikely to happen. Most verifications are left two-ways so the person blocking the other to remove a verification they left will also have the one the blocked user left them removed.

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By *j_mark OP Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

"cos if it a serious reason you get involved anyway dont you, but this idea is the best yet."

Just to clarify... No, we now never manually remove verifications so at the moment there is no way to remove a verification other than to remove your account.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Quoted SJ ...

"Would just be the same as if they hadn't published any verifications, they'd still show the tick but no details."

No, it wouldn't be the same. Fair enough the tick would still be in place but that is where the similarity ends.

Fine if someone CHOOSES not to show their verifications, however this proposed system potentially removes the CHOICE to do so

OK, it's an extreme example, but I'm sure there are many more ...

Talking of choices though at present there is *no way* for the verification giver to withdraw that.

Surely the person giving the verification has more right to withdraw it than the person receiving it has to keep it?

Just some food for thought

One further point:

Sorry, I disagree, I don't see why the verification giver should have any right to remove a verification once it has been given. If it was given in good faith at the time then that is how it should remain, except as I've already suggested, under extreme circumstances. In fact on another site we were on, before we got kicked off

, even after a member left the site, the verifications that they left for others remained in place

Malicious verification removal being unlikely ???

I guess neither of us can say beyond doubt that it will or won't happen, but I suspect that the potential is most certainly there and this is the tool to allow it to come to fruition

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"cos if it a serious reason you get involved anyway dont you, but this idea is the best yet.

Just to clarify... No, we now never manually remove verifications so at the moment there is no way to remove a verification other than to remove your account.

Yesterday I saw a guy complaining about meets, and then admitting his verification was 'made up' in the forums, within half an hour his verifaction had been removed and he was no longer verified, so how did that happen?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I still don't think we have heard one good reason why a verification should be removed? Just because some people are throwing their toys out of the pram is not a good enough reason! Whereas we have heard many good arguments as to why this wouldn't work. It seems very much like your minds are already made up to be quite honest SJ_mark, so why ask in the first place?

Still don't understand why the whole verification removal process you are suggesting has to be associated with the blocking system, why not just have them separate if you're going to do it at all?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"cos if it a serious reason you get involved anyway dont you, but this idea is the best yet.

Just to clarify... No, we now never manually remove verifications so at the moment there is no way to remove a verification other than to remove your account.

I am guessing Admin mean you can't just ask for verifications to be removed as they don't do that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely the person giving the verification has more right to withdraw it than the person receiving it has to keep it?"

They had right not to leave it in the first place... and still not seeing any reason why someone should have a right to remove one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am guessing Admin mean you can't just ask for verifications to be removed as they don't do that.

Ok, I understand that point now... and by the way that was a valid reason, but this system will not stop anyone leaving fake verifications!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"I still don't think we have heard one good reason why a verification should be removed? Just because some people are throwing their toys out of the pram is not a good enough reason! Whereas we have heard many good arguments as to why this wouldn't work. It seems very much like your minds are already made up to be quite honest SJ_mark, so why ask in the first place?

Still don't understand why the whole verification removal process you are suggesting has to be associated with the blocking system, why not just have them separate if you're going to do it at all?"

Personally I don't think verifications should be removed once people have put them on. At the time of the verifiying, you thought that person was good enough to recieve one, and they are still real as they were then.

Who knows if it is vindictive or not to want them removed.

Admin were asking for comments and answering any questions we all have which I think is a good thing, they could have shut the thread after they posted if they didn't want to know your views.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who knows if it is vindictive or not to want them removed."

I can't see it being anything other than being vindictive personally.

"Admin were asking for comments and answering any questions we all have which I think is a good thing, they could have shut the thread after they posted if they didn't want to know your views."

Ok apologies if my comment sounded more angry than it was intended. I'm not saying they aren't listening, but it just feels a wee bit like they are under pressure to make it happen, and so they are trying to persuade those who don't agree.

I will bite my tongue a bit harder, but if I disagree with a point I will argue the case, lol

I just think the system is great as it is already and see no need for change! and see it as causing more harm with little or no benefit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Could a modification to the system not be implemented as in the Ebay system ?

Of course what I'm going to suggest could be open to as much or even more abuse as the proposed system, but it's only an idea .....

Why not allow 'follow up' feedback to be left, for example if someone is great at a meet then 3 weeks later they turn up unannounced at your door, as happened to us twice

, allow an extra line of follow up feedback to be left to reflect the behaviour, whilst still leaving the original feedback in place.

This allows the feedback giver the option to vent his/her spleen and the feedback receiver to option to display or hide his/her feedback - everybody happy

It's probably far too complex and open too all sorts of buggering about but it was just a thought

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Who knows if it is vindictive or not to want them removed.

I can't see it being anything other than being vindictive personally.

Admin were asking for comments and answering any questions we all have which I think is a good thing, they could have shut the thread after they posted if they didn't want to know your views.

I will bite my tongue a bit harder, but if I disagree with a point I will argue the case, lol

I just think the system is great as it is already and see no need for change! and see it as causing more harm with little or no benefit."

I think they are trying to give what the majority seemed to have asked for....there are lots of threads started asking for it.

lol @ biting tongue....they wouldn't know what everyone wants if we all did that !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think they are trying to give what the majority seemed to have asked for....there are lots of threads started asking for it."

Well I assumed they must have been. Still fail to see at what point a verification becomes invalid. I know you said before you already agree Rugby, and interesting that you as a moderator, chosen to be fair and rational, disagree with the suggestion.

I also would like to add that not only would they be taking away a verification, but to me a memory also, as when I read them it brings back plenty.

Also, I would just like to say that although my argument in this matter suits my own purpose. I like to try my best to see the opposing side, and will often bring up arguments contrary to my own opinion. Just in this matter so far I can't see any!

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

I don't agree with being able to take away a verification only for the reason that it must have been a valid verification of the person at that time. And no one has a time-machine to go back and change what happened on that meet.

But seeing as people have been asking for this to happen then this way of dealing with the requests seems quite fair, although as with everything there will always be folk that abuse any system Admin put in place - That's life allover though and not just here

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

To be honest we were members before being a mod and our view has always been the same.

We don't take verifications too seriously so we are not too bothered what happens to them.

Maybe being wary of what we all write on verifications might be a good idea.

We have verified people but kept it clean and to the point , ie we met, he was pleasant etc etc and even if we fell out after that or went off him for some reason, at the time we met we gave an honest account and it that isn't going to change the fact that we met him.

But Admin are just catering for what has been asked for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be honest we were members before being a mod and our view has always been the same."

But you were chosen to be a mod for the reasons I stated before

"We don't take verifications too seriously so we are not too bothered what happens to them."

Ok but you are a couple and perhaps life isn't as difficult for you in here. I feel I would be being penalised unjustly, and this would be making things even more difficult... and others do see them as an important step towards initially trusting someone.

"Maybe being wary of what we all write on verifications might be a good idea."
Definitely! There are pretty clear warnings when you verify someone, perhaps they need to be bigger? lol...maybe it should say, a verification is for life not just for christmas!

"We have verified people but kept it clean and to the point , ie we met, he was pleasant etc etc and even if we fell out after that or went off him for some reason, at the time we met we gave an honest account and it that isn't going to change the fact that we met him."
Exactly my point as mentioned before.

"But Admin are just catering for what has been asked for."
Again I realise, doesn't necessarily mean the majority is right though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was half way through typing similar to what Ruggers has said above but got distracted at work and deleted it....but I agree,everyone needs to be carefull how they write verifications, especially the first one they give to a profile.

Maybe more 'Advice and direction' on the feedback page would help a little... reminding people that verifications cant be removed once given etc?

Anyway...another point..

If Member A blocks B to remove the verifications then Member A cant see B typing in chat. If there has been a problem between them, then A would probably like to keep an eye on B to make sure that they arent been badmouthed.

Would an idea be to permenantly remove the verification when a member blocks another for more than a set time, maybe a week.... during that week then if they are unblocked then the verification returns, over a week, its gone for good?

Steve

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By *exeteraWoman
over a year ago

Bridgend

I'm still very much of the opinion that verifications should remain. They were relevant at the time of posting and whatever may have happened subsequently as far as I'm concerned bears little or no relevance to the original posting. e.g. ******** turned up as agreed, well presented, courteous and a fab time was had by all. Don't miss out on this one ladies. Thanks for a great time xxxxx

This is fairly typical of lots of verifications given. This was obviously meant at the time of posting and should in my opinion still stand.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

"I'm still very much of the opinion that verifications should remain. They were relevant at the time of posting and whatever may have happened subsequently as far as I'm concerned bears little or no relevance to the original posting. e.g. ******** turned up as agreed, well presented, courteous and a fab time was had by all. Don't miss out on this one ladies. Thanks for a great time xxxxx

This is fairly typical of lots of verifications given. This was obviously meant at the time of posting and should in my opinion still stand. "

Thats fair enough if it's a couple and they stay together - we verified and were verified by a lovely couple that we met a few times then unfortunately they split up but he kept the profile and changed his partner. This meant that the verification that we had done was then not for the couple who then 'owned' it - as we had not met the new partner we didn't feel comfortable 'vouching' for her and our verification was not for her. We simply messaged them and asked them to remove it and they did, no problem but not all people are as reasonable. Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thats fair enough if it's a couple and they stay together - we verified and were verified by a lovely couple that we met a few times then unfortunately they split up but he kept the profile and changed his partner. This meant that the verification that we had done was then not for the couple who then 'owned' it - as we had not met the new partner we didn't feel comfortable 'vouching' for her and our verification was not for her. We simply messaged them and asked them to remove it and they did, no problem but not all people are as reasonable. Z"

Finally, someone with a valid reason, hadn't thought of that! Not sure how often this scenrio arises. On the same token, I'm not sure you'd feel you wanted to block them either though, right?

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

Finally, someone with a valid reason, hadn't thought of that! Not sure how often this scenrio arises. On the same token, I'm not sure you'd feel you wanted to block them either though, right? "

Well, it's only happened once to us and I wouldn't want to block them, but they understood our feelings so it was ok. Z

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By *exeteraWoman
over a year ago

Bridgend

Surely that would be a matter for admin to deal with as it's misrepresentation. I understand your situation but that surely would not be the norm and few and far between.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

seems fair enough! hope it works without to many hick-ups!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We know that sometimes there are a legitimate reason for wanting to remove verifications you have left.

Our proposal is as follows:

If you have blocked someone, your verifications will no longer show on their profile page (and any verifications they have left you will not show on yours either).

If you unblock them, the verifications will show again.

We think this is the simplest way of dealing with this request.

Any comments in this thread or via the CONTACT link please

We believe that verifications are a snapshot of one moment in time, hence nobody should be allowed to "rewrite" history.

We look at verifications to ascertain how many meets someone has had ,whether their profile rings true compared to these verifications.

Perhaps take away peoples' ability to hide verifications, that way a critical verifications will also show.

However, a short response should be allowed as it is on ebay to explain any negative comments.

Just our suggestion

PS There is one further consideration : One person or group of people could actually lobby other members and destroy another site user's credibility and reputation by using the verification/ blocking system.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there is that as well, i have always believed think hard before you give a verification and it should stay there xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

but if you block them how will you see if the verification has been removed...lol...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the same as we do now if we block someone and nosiness gets the better of us we ask someone to look lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

can a non mod or forum mod join in this topic? lol

just messing xxxxxx

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

No, sod off and get your own thread !!!

Only messing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

verfied someone on cam biggest mistake made dont do it now only in person and only if not asked.

dont get verifed back so it not a problem but have been asked about said persons and this lead them to having another meet which i was very happy for them. they were really nice person and did enjoy there company.

have blocked many for various reasons i.e being pushy and making unusual demands of us. but now have policy that dont verify unless enjoy their company and would really like to meet them again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"verfied someone on cam biggest mistake made dont do it now only in person and only if not asked. "

Why, what's the issue? You saw them on cam did you not? People will take cam verifications as such, that someone has seen them on cam and only that, and put little weight on them.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Personally as we don't show them anyway or if we do its only for a short time and only social ones,Im not too concerned if this system is put in place as we prefer to make our own minds up about people....but that is me personally

However I do agree with what seems to be the majority on here that to be able to block someone and therefore make verifications disappear seems wrong

That verification was given in good faith at that time and should stand

I don't envy you SJ as you will never be able to please everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

he asked me for verifcation and according to new rules it makes me think about it. am i say they are going to meet or that they are not time wasters. the guy in question was not to my taste and then went on to pester me. he had asked for a verfication and all i could say was saw a man on cam.

that was the reason dont verify on cam as not sure if person is not a time waster. have been asked by couple when only seen one half to verify talked to them (female only on cam) so did not know if really a couple. they would not meet us as were too tired but still had the time to stay on net that night. so guess what blocked and moved on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"he asked me for verifcation and according to new rules it makes me think about it. am i say they are going to meet or that they are not time wasters. the guy in question was not to my taste and then went on to pester me. he had asked for a verfication and all i could say was saw a man on cam."

In short, no you don't say that, as you don't know that. All you know is you saw him on cam, and you were right to only write what you did.

He shouldn't have pestered you, and at that point maybe you should have chosen not to, but at the end of the day you still did see him on cam, so it isn't illegitimate, and as I said before people know that cam verifications don't mean alot!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are people with valid reasons who no longer wish their feedback to be on certain profiles, and some are complicated or personal and sometimes only the people involved will know the whole story.

Although there are many on here that dont pay much attention to verifications there is also many that do, such as those new to the scene or some single fems ect.

These verifications can sometimes be seen as a refference or recomendation and personaly we have been contacted to confirm some verifications we have left by people planning to meet these people.

So in cases where people have left feedback and later had hassle or abuse ect then they should have a choice either to remove or amend that feedback. At the end of the day admins proposal would only allow members to remove their feedback but the verification status would stay( little green tick}

yes there maybe some that abuse this but no more than those that may abuse the verification system anyway.

Personaly if someone was petty enough to block us just to remove their feedback for silly reasons then i wouldnt want such feedback showing on our profile or ours on theirs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No, sod off and get your own thread !!!

Only messing

lol u love me realy xxxxx i just got a bit bored took me a hour to read it all

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

Bucks

"can a non mod or forum mod join in this topic? lol xxxxxx"

Now you CAN join in mod-Richy lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That sounds like a good idea, the verification ticks stays, but for what ever reason a verifier is no longer wanting to be associated with the other profile they block them and their verification is hidden.

After all if you wanted to unverify them, must be you no longer want to be associated with them and like to want to block them.

Sounds good to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well if someone takes their verification that they made for you I hope the the verification you made for them also disappears, that way its equal for each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it is a good idea as I had someone who I had verified on cam and after initially chatting, thinking that he was genuine, only to find out that he was far from it, having met 2 other women whom he had also been messing about and told completely different things to, allof whom he had stood up, never really intending to have meets at all, just organise them and not bother to show...I had asked him to please remove my verification but at the time he just blocked me but my verification at the time was still on it from what others told me. I didn't want other women to be messed about by him as I had, by reading my verification saying he was genuine...if that makes any sense...didn't have much sleep last night so brain not fully awake...lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it is a good idea as I had someone who I had verified on cam and after initially chatting, thinking that he was genuine, only to find out that he was far from it, having met 2 other women whom he had also been messing about and told completely different things to, allof whom he had stood up, never really intending to have meets at all, just organise them and not bother to show...I had asked him to please remove my verification but at the time he just blocked me but my verification at the time was still on it from what others told me. I didn't want other women to be messed about by him as I had, by reading my verification saying he was genuine...if that makes any sense...didn't have much sleep last night so brain not fully awake...lol"

yes it makes sense

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

But he was genuine at the time of you seeing him on a webcam. You saw a male I presume and confirmed in a verification that he was male.

What happens with other people after that is a different issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"......

But he was genuine at the time of you seeing him on a webcam. You saw a male I presume and confirmed in a verification that he was male.

What happens with other people after that is a different issue."

And a short time later, turns out that he has issues, doesn't take a 'No' or harasses or behaves in an inappropriate manner and you no longer wish to be associated with that person?

After all you don't walk around with a list of friends on your back, so people can see who you are associated with...

And it only removes your association with the other profile, not the verification, if they block you.

And who knows who verified you if you have your verification hidden, as many do anyway.

People are nice to get verifications, and as read in many many threads, some do become a problem later, this might help a few behave if they know verifications statements can be removed.

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By *lap an TickleCouple
over a year ago

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Well I think the writer of the verification should have the option to remove or amend what has been wrote

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"......

But he was genuine at the time of you seeing him on a webcam. You saw a male I presume and confirmed in a verification that he was male.

What happens with other people after that is a different issue.

And a short time later, turns out that he has issues, doesn't take a 'No' or harasses or behaves in an inappropriate manner and you no longer wish to be associated with that person?

After all you don't walk around with a list of friends on your back, so people can see who you are associated with...

And it only removes your association with the other profile, not the verification, if they block you.

And who knows who verified you if you have your verification hidden, as many do anyway.

People are nice to get verifications, and as read in many many threads, some do become a problem later, this might help a few behave if they know verifications statements can be removed.

Then maybe people should be more wary and careful on who they verify.

Sorry, but our view would stay the same, if we verified someone that at that time were who we said they were, we are quite happy that verification stays on.

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By *aughtyNurse999Woman
over a year ago

Fabville !!!

eeee its all getting very complicated lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"eeee its all getting very complicated lol "

Vote yes for the option, if you block someone you have verified, the verification is hidden.

You don't have to block anyone of course and leave the verification showing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the green tick stays just not the write up then the verification is there isnt it?

The option to remove your written verification I think is a good one as you are not unverifying (is that a word)them just removing written word.

How about adding verified 5 times next to the tick or last verification and a date?

Just our two pennyworth anyway

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

How about adding verified 5 times next to the tick or last verification and a date?

These are good ideas irrespective of this current discussion.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"cos if it a serious reason you get involved anyway dont you, but this idea is the best yet.

Just to clarify... No, we now never manually remove verifications so at the moment there is no way to remove a verification other than to remove your account.

To me that is wrong. You meet somebody, have a great time and you both give each other a verification. Then that person you met leaves and their verification gets removed also. Lets say in a extreme situation that you have been on here for 18 months. You have 10 verifications on your profile and all the people who verified you decide to leave fab. You then suddenly have no verifications. Now somebody looking at your profile would think hmmmmmmmmm you have been on here for 18 months and don't have 1 single verification. I will give you a miss. They would not know you had 10 verifications but lost them beasue the people who verified you left fab. I really think it is unfair that when somebody who verified you leaves fab their verification also goes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In this situation, your green 'verified' flag would still remain, however I agree that it is a bit of a pisser when the actual verification vanishes

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By *utty tartWoman
over a year ago

the house of sin

ME bein a bit thik here.... confused.com

i got a verification on my profile of sumone whom i no longer speak to ..... simple thing .. hide it ,wots the prob in that ??????????????? p.s. richy its not urs lol

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

Why use verifications as a basis? The whole system is open to abuse, and I do not meet people based on how good they were fucking someone else.

Its like going to a club,you get a feel of someone through communication.

If you have any negative gut feelings, you just do not meet.

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

"ME bein a bit thik here.... confused.com

i got a verification on my profile of sumone whom i no longer speak to ..... simple thing .. hide it ,wots the prob in that ??????????????? p.s. richy its not urs lol

It is easy to do that and people do but what others have asked for is that they don't want the verification they gave to the person, they fell out with, showing on the other persons profile. They want the association with that person removed completely.

I think it is a bad idea personally as the verification would have been the truth (hopefully) at the time of giving it. But this idea is a good compromise to what was being asked for by some.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think the idea is if you want to remove a veri from someone else's profile, myself i think it can be open to abuse, cos say you meet someone and a few weeks later he/she has got bored and moves on the party that is left gets angry upset and wants to remove the veri but myself i give a genuine veri and will never want to remove it and hope the same applies to ppl who give me veris,

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Why use verifications as a basis? The whole system is open to abuse, and I do not meet people based on how good they were fucking someone else.

Its like going to a club,you get a feel of someone through communication.

If you have any negative gut feelings, you just do not meet.

I 100% agree with you however a lot of people on here have said they will not play with somebody or a couple who have no verifications. So whilst in a way verifications mean nothing in that you could meet a person or couple with 30 glowing verifications and think were all the people who verified you mad on the other side a lot of people have said if you have no verifications there is NO chance they will meet you. I remember a discussion about 6 weeks ago where one guy said if you have been on here for over 3 months and haver no verifications why are you here and you must be a bit dodgy or a timewaster. I take verifications with a pinch of salt but it seems for SOME people they don't.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"i think the idea is if you want to remove a veri from someone else's profile, myself i think it can be open to abuse, cos say you meet someone and a few weeks later he/she has got bored and moves on the party that is left gets angry upset and wants to remove the veri but myself i give a genuine veri and will never want to remove it and hope the same applies to ppl who give me veris,

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So when is this gonna happen?

Yes I agree it is open to abuse but it should also be to let people know who the a**holes out there are!!

I for one would welcome something that lets me remove verifications, and say on the page that it has been removed!

I have verified people in the past, then they turn nasty but you have no way of taking it back or letting others know to avoid, so they happily go on there way abusing what could be a good site and giving others a bad name.

Makes you want to move on to another site but the a**holes just get away with it on all of them so maybe the answer is just to pack it in??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So when is this gonna happen?

Yes I agree it is open to abuse but it should also be to let people know who the a**holes out there are!!

I for one would welcome something that lets me remove verifications, and say on the page that it has been removed!

Makes you want to move on to another site but the a**holes just get away with it on all of them so maybe the answer is just to pack it in??

No every are arseholes as you put it and just because you have had a bad experiance with someone doesnt mean they will go on to have the same with someone else,what im trying to say is not everyone is going to get on all the time with everyone they meet.

And as for a bit on profile saying why you removed verifacation,what is stopping someone deleting their profile and starting again?

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

"So when is this gonna happen?

Yes I agree it is open to abuse but it should also be to let people know who the a**holes out there are!!

I for one would welcome something that lets me remove verifications, and say on the page that it has been removed!

Makes you want to move on to another site but the a**holes just get away with it on all of them so maybe the answer is just to pack it in??

I doubt you would get the chance to show a 'removed verification message' with the reason why you removed it as it would be an automatic removal as soon as they blocked you or you blocked them.

Doing what you suggest is still 'naming & shaming' and is never allowed on the site, even on your profile.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"So when is this gonna happen?

Yes I agree it is open to abuse but it should also be to let people know who the a**holes out there are!!

I for one would welcome something that lets me remove verifications, and say on the page that it has been removed!

Makes you want to move on to another site but the a**holes just get away with it on all of them so maybe the answer is just to pack it in??

I doubt you would get the chance to show a 'removed verification message' with the reason why you removed it as it would be an automatic removal as soon as they blocked you or you blocked them.

Doing what you suggest is still 'naming & shaming' and is never allowed on the site, even on your profile."

I wasnt suggesting to say why it was removed but i still want to know when this will happen as i have blocked someone but my verification still shows on their profile!!

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

"So when is this gonna happen?

Yes I agree it is open to abuse but it should also be to let people know who the a**holes out there are!!

I for one would welcome something that lets me remove verifications, and say on the page that it has been removed!

Makes you want to move on to another site but the a**holes just get away with it on all of them so maybe the answer is just to pack it in??

I doubt you would get the chance to show a 'removed verification message' with the reason why you removed it as it would be an automatic removal as soon as they blocked you or you blocked them.

Doing what you suggest is still 'naming & shaming' and is never allowed on the site, even on your profile.

I wasnt suggesting to say why it was removed but i still want to know when this will happen as i have blocked someone but my verification still shows on their profile!!"

You did suggest it - "something that lets me remove verifications, and say on the page that it has been removed.........you have no way of taking it back or letting others know to avoid"

But take your point of wanting it removed for your own reasons but they might be just that i.e. your own reasons and not relevant to anyone else.

So what is suggested with the block and remove is a way of giving people that function without naming and shaming or arguments starting.

Just my tuppence worth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

an wat if u dont block ppl u just

ignoer them..then there verifaction

will still show so wats the use? xx

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